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Carolyn Siward Minmatar Amarres Eunt Domus	Posted - 2010.03.25 19:47:00 - [1] By portraying the People as savages, they strengthen Amarr hardline resolve to destroy our people. They are probably secret Amarr hardline infiltrating spy agents, and this is all a set-up. No doubt that Theology council priest man had found some scripture words that would pull the carpet from under the hardliners feet, so they were killed to prevent it. So the slavers have the public outrage to support them. This shows the bloody Hands are either utter idiots or agents of a foreign power. Probably Amarr. Or Jovians. They're never up to any good, that's for sure. Amarrians Go Home
Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:16:00 - [2] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 25/03/2010 20:18:07 We are "savage" for lack of a better term, its part of who we are...where we came from...where we draw our stength. Let the Amarr call us what they will! I'd rather take 10 Minmatar "savages" into battle, than 100 "Civilized" Amarr anyday. We should be proud of who and what we are...thats what the Amarr tried to drive out of our people with centuries of enslavement...the "animal", because they can't understand it...they fear it. What we are not as a race is...beastial, Inhumane, or without a conscience. "I come upon the Dread Wings of Angels." -Syn
Stenny Macduff Amarr Virtus Ex Fides	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Syn Callibri What we are not as a race is...beastial, Inhumane, or without a conscience. The actions of your "people" have continually shown otherwise. It was all too obvious that Matar filth were behind this act, your kind is all to familiar with this sort of brutality.
Carolyn Siward Minmatar Amarres Eunt Domus	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:40:00 - [4] Originally by: Stenny Macduff Originally by: Syn Callibri What we are not as a race is...beastial, Inhumane, or without a conscience. The actions of your "people" have continually shown otherwise. It was all too obvious that Matar filth were behind this act, your kind is all to familiar with this sort of brutality. See? See? It's right here! Look at the results, right here! This amarr man now is further from a resolution. Because the bloody hands act like agitators. Amarrians Go Home
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:47:00 - [5] Originally by: Stenny Macduff The actions of your "people" have continually shown otherwise. It was all too obvious that Matar filth were behind this act, your kind is all to familiar with this sort of brutality. Brutality as bad as that shown by slavers to their 'property'? Tell me, what happens to slaves who are too old to work, too sick or lamed? What happens to slaves who refuse to obey their masters? At least Matari freedom fighters are brutal for the cause of freeing their people.
Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:47:00 - [6] Originally by: Stenny Macduff Originally by: Syn Callibri What we are not as a race is...beastial, Inhumane, or without a conscience. The actions of your "people" have continually shown otherwise. It was all too obvious that Matar filth were behind this act, your kind is all to familiar with this sort of brutality. How typical a response from an Amarr...its natural that we are familiar with brutality, we had hundereds of years to learn it from those that have mastered its application, hidden behind a the belif that it was "God's will"...nothing but religious fanaticism and fundamentalist dogmatism. History has proven time and time again that those that profess thier civility the loudest, have the least portion of it in stock. "I come upon the Dread Wings of Angels." -Syn
Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.03.25 20:54:00 - [7] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 25/03/2010 20:57:54 Originally by: Carolyn Siward See? See? It's right here! Look at the results, right here! This amarr man now is further from a resolution. Because the bloody hands act like agitators.[/quote What are we to do then, hunt them down and exterminate them? That is nothing more than a thinly disguised trap...a "catch 22" set by the Amarr. If we destroy them we are acting as savages, if we do not...we are condoning savage actions. "I come upon the Dread Wings of Angels." -Syn
Carolyn Siward Minmatar Amarres Eunt Domus	Posted - 2010.03.25 21:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Syn Callibri Originally by: Carolyn Siward See? See? It's right here! Look at the results, right here! This amarr man now is further from a resolution. Because the bloody hands act like agitators. What are we to do then, hunt them down and exterminate them? That is nothing more than a thinly disguised trap...a "catch 22" set by the Amarr. If we destroy them we are acting as savages, if we do not...we are condoning savage actions. Exactly! We've been set up! The Amarr hardliner is a cunning devil. But through recognising it is a setup, we are free to say "How silly" and then go about our business as normal! No! The Amarr hardliner trap will not work against free thinking People! The Trap has been Spotted, and thus, Useless! Ha! Amarrians Go Home
Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.03.25 21:32:00 - [9] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 25/03/2010 21:32:43 Originally by: Carolyn Siward Exactly! We've been set up! The Amarr hardliner is a cunning devil. But through recognising it is a setup, we are free to say "How silly" and then go about our business as normal! No! The Amarr hardliner trap will not work against free thinking People! The Trap has been Spotted, and thus, Useless! Ha! Let the Amarr take that knowledge as further testiment against thier "false and iconic god"...just as thier "god's will" was to subjugate our people, any true god's will would not have failed as the "False god of Amarr's will" failed them in the end. "I fly upon the Dread Wings of avenging angels." -Syn
Stratio Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.25 22:00:00 - [10] Unlike the "innocent" neutrals we kill in Provi, at least some of these civilians really are innocent people caught up in an act of terror. I'm not sure I can support this. _____________________ For Tribe and Honour!
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.25 22:15:00 - [11] Originally by: Stratio Unlike the "innocent" neutrals we kill in Provi, at least some of these civilians really are innocent people caught up in an act of terror. I'm not sure I can support this. Civilians residing in a military installation? They sound as complicit as those in Providence to me.
Lucius Vindictus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.03.25 22:33:00 - [12] I'll let the Minmatar sort out the 'blame' amongst themselves, as if that would do anyone any good at this point. The assumption that we would sacrifice one of our greatest leaders just to make you look 'bad' is beyond idiotic. We hardly need to resort to spygames or conspiracies to expose your brutality. The terrorists already claimed responsibility for their heinous act, and you'd do well to look into their history before coming here and making a foul act even more disgusting with your lies.
Jakiin Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2010.03.25 23:12:00 - [13] Oh, you found them out! I've been working on this theory where Ushra'Khan are actually run by hardline Imperial leadership intent on spreading the image of Matari as terrorists! FIGHT THE POWER! * Jakiin Torash Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' Uncle Jak wants YOU to join the Khanid Provincial Vanguard!
Sinti Vailatti Kuomi Logistics	Posted - 2010.03.25 23:23:00 - [14] No Uncle Jak!You got it all wrong! It' not U'K who are really the hardliners,it's Star Fraction! Notice how you never see Rodj and Revan at the same place at the same time? It's because she's his jump-clone! Or he is hers...I haven't actually worked that one out yet... Just sayin... KUOMI LOGISTICS: The bright future, today!Ö
Carolyn Siward Minmatar Amarres Eunt Domus	Posted - 2010.03.25 23:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Lucius Vindictus The terrorists already claimed responsibility for their heinous act, and you'd do well to look into their history before coming here and making a foul act even more disgusting with your lies. You twist and turn like a twisty-turny thing. Number of slaves rescued in this act = 0 Number of slaves killed in this act > 1 Therefore, it is an act of immense stupidity, which can only be from double agents. Amarrians Go Home
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood	Posted - 2010.03.26 00:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Sinti Vailatti Notice how you never see Rodj and Revan at the same place at the same time? It's because she's his jump-clone! Or he is hers...I haven't actually worked that one out yet... Just sayin... * scratches her eyebrow a moment * What can I say... At least this one is original, I'll grant you that. No one was able to come with such stupidity for the past 6 years. Rodj must be as thrilled as I am... * Rolls her eyes and switches off IGS transmission * ôThe Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason; but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of the Gods.ö
Jakiin Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2010.03.26 00:10:00 - [17] Originally by: Sinti Vailatti No Uncle Jak!You got it all wrong! It' not U'K who are really the hardliners,it's Star Fraction! Notice how you never see Rodj and Revan at the same place at the same time? It's because she's his jump-clone! Or he is hers...I haven't actually worked that one out yet... Just sayin... Conniving bastards! I always thought it was because Blake didn't like Constantine's perfume, but that makes much more sense! * Jakiin Torash Holder Heir of the Kingdom 'Pacifist Reclaimer' Uncle Jak wants YOU to join the Khanid Provincial Vanguard!
Sinti Vailatti Kuomi Logistics	Posted - 2010.03.26 00:10:00 - [18] Now THAT'S comedy! KUOMI LOGISTICS: The bright future, today!Ö
Lucius Vindictus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.03.26 00:56:00 - [19] Originally by: Carolyn Siward Originally by: Lucius Vindictus The terrorists already claimed responsibility for their heinous act, and you'd do well to look into their history before coming here and making a foul act even more disgusting with your lies. You twist and turn like a twisty-turny thing. Number of slaves rescued in this act = 0 Number of slaves killed in this act > 1 Therefore, it is an act of immense stupidity, which can only be from double agents. I'm the one twisting and turning? You aren't one of those "Amarrians collapsed the EVE-gate" conspiracy loonies, are you? You can rightly blame us of a lot of misdeeds in the past, but like said loonies you can't pin every ailing in the cluster on us without a proper explanation. Unless you try to look like a fool. Any double agent has to be an extremely experienced and intelligent agent to even make the cut. How could such a person be so inept as to kill the single highest religious authority in the Empire in one of our own stations? Why sneak and hide when we can blow up our own stations perfectly fine if we wanted to? I'm not going to argue the stupidity of the act, in that we at least agree. Maybe now you realize that freeing slaves isn't the real objective. How can this lead to anything but more bloodshed on both sides?
Cer'ana Minmatar Varion Galactic	Posted - 2010.03.26 01:27:00 - [20] Carolyn! That's a bad puppy! Get back in your cage, damn it!
Carolyn Siward Minmatar Amarres Eunt Domus	Posted - 2010.03.26 02:09:00 - [21] Originally by: Lucius Vindictus How could such a person be so inept as to kill the single highest religious authority in the Empire in one of our own stations? How can this lead to anything but more bloodshed on both sides? The Theology Council weren't 100% approving of things. Eliminating the preacher man in charge may be of benefit to certain other people in the power struggles between things. Especially if the preacher man had found something that would be inconvenient. Agent, or double agent, or agitator, or idiot. Who knows? Who benefits? The preacher men don't. The Republic doesn't. The Tribes don't. The Empire doesn't. Who does? Answer? Territorially ambitious holder men. Catiz Tash-Murkon and her associates. They are not religious like the Ardishapur man. I suspect them. Power Vacuums! Amarrians Go Home
Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.03.26 13:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Carolyn Siward Originally by: Lucius Vindictus How could such a person be so inept as to kill the single highest religious authority in the Empire in one of our own stations? How can this lead to anything but more bloodshed on both sides? The Theology Council weren't 100% approving of things. Eliminating the preacher man in charge may be of benefit to certain other people in the power struggles between things. Especially if the preacher man had found something that would be inconvenient. Agent, or double agent, or agitator, or idiot. Who knows? Who benefits? The preacher men don't. The Republic doesn't. The Tribes don't. The Empire doesn't. Who does? Answer? Territorially ambitious holder men. Catiz Tash-Murkon and her associates. They are not religious like the Ardishapur man. I suspect them. Power Vacuums! Isn't it also not beyond the realm of possibility, that to an extreme fanatic there is nothing that is greater thsn "god's will"? No sacrifice is too great in the name of "god"...and to willing be that sacrifice to "god's will" the highest praise a fanatic can give? Its the same old story over and over. I can't believe that I'm saying this...but Lucius Vindictus has a point! Is it possible that there is some other agency at work here attempting to whip an already strained relation into full fledged warfare between the Minmatar and the Amarr? "I fly upon the Dread Wings of avenging angels." -Syn
Carolyn Siward Minmatar Amarres Eunt Domus	Posted - 2010.03.26 15:11:00 - [23] Originally by: Syn Callibri Is it possible that there is some other agency at work here attempting to whip already strained relations into full fledged warfare between the Minmatar and the Amarr, but to what benefit? Money! and Power! Who's benefitting here? It further stalls the Tribal Assembly, where things like the matters of the Starkmanir and Nefantar returnee claims would be discussed. More wars require more ships. Who builds the Fleet ships? Corruption! They are not true Minmatar, they are the enslavers! Amarrians Go Home
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.26 15:19:00 - [24] Originally by: Carolyn Siward By portraying the People as savages, they strengthen Amarr hardline resolve to destroy our people. They are probably secret Amarr hardline infiltrating spy agents, and this is all a set-up. No doubt that Theology council priest man had found some scripture words that would pull the carpet from under the hardliners feet, so they were killed to prevent it. So the slavers have the public outrage to support them. This shows the bloody Hands are either utter idiots or agents of a foreign power. Probably Amarr. Or Jovians. They're never up to any good, that's for sure. Or maybe, just maybe, they are indeed a hard-liner Minmatar terror force and this attack was exactly what it appears to be? This world is not perfect Siwald. Why should your people be a shining exception? _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kador and the Empire.
Xenea Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.26 15:50:00 - [25] Before the nobleman was cut down by the surrounding guards, he raised his bloody hand and cried "a manu dei e tet rimon."
Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Nevermind... it's abundantly clear your not even remotely sane, and can be led to believe anything, about anyone, for whatever reason. I'm not going to waste my time trying to argue with you. Why is it insane to look at ANY potential motivation or suspected outcome...however unlikely or fantastic it may seem? There is a saying..."Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains...however unlikely or improbable must be the truth". I can only speak for myself but, though I have no love for you Amarr...the last thing I feel either race truely wants is a protracted war between us and I'm sure that there are powers among BOTH races that would go to great lengths to propagate one for thier own ends. "I come upon the Dread Wings of an avenging angel." -Syn
Caellach Marellus Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Jesmine Kyriel Nevermind... it's abundantly clear your not even remotely sane, and can be led to believe anything, about anyone, for whatever reason. I'm not going to waste my time trying to argue with you. You've got to admit though it's oddly suspicious that Jamyl cancelled a visit there 20 minutes before she was due to arrive, which would have put her in the centre of the blast. -------------------------------------- All commentary unless explicitly stated remains the personal views of Caellach Marellus and do not necessarily represent that of his Corporation or Alliance
Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.03.26 17:48:00 - [28] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 26/03/2010 17:52:14 That IS interesting, but against my first reaction to yell and point like some howling animal; I have to mention that even though her NOT being there is a sign of obvious guilt, consider this...thats what all were supposed to see. I personally would look to what or who convinced her to cancel (rather than jumping to a conclusion). Espionage and intriuge can wear the most innocent of faces. "I come upon the Dread Wings of an avenging angel." -Syn
Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.03.26 18:55:00 - [29] I have just recieved word from my sources that the "Order of the Chaotic" have claimed responsibility for the tragedy, they have even declared war on the "Bloody Hands of Matar" for taking credit for the incident. It would seem that the plot thickens...perhaps "we" can out our differences aside (for the moment) to uncover the truth that lies beneath all of this madness to avoid an escalation that might set the whole galaxy ablaze. "I come upon the Dread Wings of an avenging angel." -Syn
Carolyn Siward Minmatar Amarres Eunt Domus	Posted - 2010.03.26 20:48:00 - [30] The plot thickens! Like a fine Vherokior-style custard, as served as accompaniment to fruit puddings on stations all around Minmatar. The spoon of truth will slice through the cake of lies. Amarrians Go Home

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