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Garibaldi Sinatra Exile... 31	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:20:00 - [1] - Quote How about giving us diligent hard working mission runners something new to aim for and use. Im terrible at explaining ideas but hopfully this short explaination will hint at what i am suggesting. I would love too see a high speed transit system for getting around highsec. My suggestion would be that the mechaninc requires you have standings with the relevant Empire who controls the jump bridges and prehaps the use of some kind of ticket that you could buy in bulk from the LP store. This would be a nice addition too the LP store and would provide a good reason for grinding standings with diffeent empire' besides the pure persuit of higher level missions. Thanks for taking the time too consider this. I hope most of you will agree this is a good idea; i would love too see it implemented. Discuss GS Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
Garibaldi Sinatra Exile... 31	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:25:00 - [2] - Quote ohh a further thought. Clearly this gives a huge boost too those who have the standings so i would further suggest(in order to add balance) that the standings required be very high (say8.5+) and that standings at the required level would suffer some kind of degradation/decay if they are not maintained after said certain level. Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
Lilliana Stelles Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes 74	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:28:00 - [3] - Quote So I can teleport my freighter across Caldari highsec thanks to my 8.5 faction standing? I won't say no, but that's an insanely powerful advantage.
Garibaldi Sinatra Exile... 31	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:31:00 - [4] - Quote Lilliana Stelles wrote: So I can teleport my freighter across Caldari highsec thanks to my 8.5 faction standing? I won't say no, but that's an insanely powerful advantage. I would say that going completley accross Caldari highsec would be a massive exaggeration most JB only cut out about 4-6 jumps or so. It simply cuts out some of the monotony of moving around between trade hubs. Also no-one is saying these jb should be heavily guarded by concord (or guarded at all in fact) If anything it adds an additional oppourtunity for gamers who enjoy ganking frieghters etc too 'get you', Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
Garibaldi Sinatra Exile... 31	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:33:00 - [5] - Quote It would also allow for a kind of LP sink as players spend thier LP fast -travelling around the universe rather than on faction goodies; thus giving a much needed boost too the value of faction modules. Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
adam smash University of Caille Gallente Federation 106	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:36:00 - [6] - Quote So, I mission alot give me JB's to make my isk even easier? Um if HS gets JB's then LOW better have them too... O rite never thought of that did ya?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 8365	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:40:00 - [7] - Quote GÇªso instant access to agents, reduced taxes, no refinery waste, and (at the extreme end) free ships isn't enough? It has to be increased security as well? No. In fact, if anything, standings gain needs to be decoupled from missions as it is and be turned into something that you can gain in numerous ways. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
Werst Dendenahzees GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 31	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:50:00 - [8] - Quote Do this, then I'll know where to park my tornado fleets
Garibaldi Sinatra Exile... 31	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:53:00 - [9] - Quote how about the standings requirement was reduced or removed completley, from the deal; and instead the whole gig was based on the "tickets" you buy with the LP from the LP store. That way any player would be able too take advantage even players that have never ran a mission in thier eve career. All they would need too do is buy some tickets that another player had previously bought with his LP and then resold onto the wider market ? Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
Othran Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 212	Posted - 2012.07.04 18:59:00 - [10] - Quote No. We used to have superhighways which did much what you want. It left most of highsec (and lowsec) totally dead.
Mallak Azaria 274	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:01:00 - [11] - Quote You would then have to allow JB's in Lowsec & NPC nullsec aswell. Considering that you can save yourself several jumps with a well placed bridge, I would have to say no to this.
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub Like I Give A F--K 1420	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:04:00 - [12] - Quote No. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Zoe Athame Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 93	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:06:00 - [13] - Quote I agree that standings need to be more relevant, and that missions are boring/pointless other than the ISK factor, but I don't think this is a good way to fix that.
Aiwha 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda 449	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:10:00 - [14] - Quote Only if you fuel them. Welcome to hell. Regards, LCpl. Aiwha-á
Kuehnelt Devoid Privateering 110	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:13:00 - [15] - Quote Tippia wrote: In fact, if anything, standings gain needs to be decoupled from missions as it is and be turned into something that you can gain in numerous ways. It already has: FW gives you huge standings from plexing. With no social skills and no grinding and with only SoE/career agent missions, I had access to L4s in Amarr and and Caldari space But sure, more like that would be nice. I have social and diplomacy V now, from wanting to do missions in nullsec, and it's still a huge painful grind.
D3F4ULT 123	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:14:00 - [16] - Quote Only if a jump would cost you 350,000,000+ isk then I'd slightly agree with it. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs )
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub Like I Give A F--K 1420	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:28:00 - [17] - Quote Kuehnelt wrote: Tippia wrote: In fact, if anything, standings gain needs to be decoupled from missions as it is and be turned into something that you can gain in numerous ways. It already has: FW gives you huge standings from plexing. With no social skills and no grinding and with only SoE/career agent missions, I had access to L4s in Amarr and and Caldari space But sure, more like that would be nice. I have social and diplomacy V now, from wanting to do missions in nullsec, and it's still a huge painful grind. Wait, so you got standings for missions by running different types of missions? I think tippia is alluding to adding (meaningful) standings changes to belt ratting, anomalies, exploration... Hell, maybe even give standings for using services/paying taxes in a certain faction's stations. Standings system needs a rework anyway, having to run missions to do stuff like get jump clones easily or trade at max efficiency is a little silly. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Rats Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 72	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:31:00 - [18] - Quote Werst Dendenahzees wrote: Do this, then I'll know where to park my tornado fleets Would you mind awfully old chap if I suggested where you could park your Tornado Fleets ? Tal -áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á
Haquer Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:33:00 - [19] - Quote Garibaldi Sinatra wrote: How about giving us diligent hard working mission runners something new to aim for and use. Im terrible at explaining ideas but hopfully this short explaination will hint at what i am suggesting. I would love too see a high speed transit system for getting around highsec. My suggestion would be that the mechaninc requires you have standings with the relevant Empire who controls the jump bridges and prehaps the use of some kind of ticket that you could buy in bulk from the LP store. This would be a nice addition too the LP store and would provide a good reason for grinding standings with diffeent empire' besides the pure persuit of higher level missions. Thanks for taking the time too consider this. I hope most of you will agree this is a good idea; i would love too see it implemented. Discuss GS If you want jump bridges, set up infrastructure in 0.0 Simple.
Charles Baker Federal Mineral Acquisition 13	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:35:00 - [20] - Quote [quote=Garibaldi Sinatra]Im terriblequote] /Thread
Kuehnelt Devoid Privateering 110	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:53:00 - [21] - Quote Simi Kusoni wrote: Wait, so you got standings for missions by running different types of missions? This is how FW plexing works: you enter a system, warp to a system-visible beacon, maybe kill/chase off a wt that's already there, maybe sit at the button doing nothing or else kill the rats and mostly sit at the button doing nothing (or wait at the warp-in), maybe kill/chase off wartargets/pirates that come in. There's too much PvP in it to call it "a type of mission". And if you aren't a farming alt and actually desire PvP, plexing is a great way to get it. When you do something in order to get fights, 'mission' is an odd label for what you're doing. Or rather, if that's a mission, then ratting/anomalies/exploration can likewise be presented as virtualized missions for the entities that give you standings boosts for doing them, and you can deploy this 'duh standings-for-missions' quip to anyone who objects to extending standings boosts to those activities. Quote: I think tippia is alluding to adding (meaningful) standings changes to belt ratting, anomalies, exploration... Hell, maybe even give standings for using services/paying taxes in a certain faction's stations. "Familiarity should breed adoration". Given deriving standings, this might be irritating. For instance, someone grinding Guristas standings wouldn't like having to grind away the Guristas penalties from merely shopping at Jita.
Zarian Uphius The Suicide Express Sobriety Test Failures 21	Posted - 2012.07.04 19:58:00 - [22] - Quote And I will be there with my 1400s waiting for you to jump
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 802	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:01:00 - [23] - Quote I agree that standings should have much more impact in game, not sure if jump bridges are it? For example: Factions allow high standing autopilot distance closer to gate Portrait displays different tattoo/hat/medal etc. Upgraded captains quarters with some use Able to remotely complete and request missions from greater distances Cheaper office rental Rental of hangars shared between characters Starbase licence that isn't consumed instead of charters Cheaper PI tax Ability to use hisec gates with caps Access to exploration sites with better loot Etc. etc.
Mors Sanctitatis Death of Virtue 721	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:02:00 - [24] - Quote Garibaldi Sinatra wrote: How about giving us diligent hard working mission runners something new to aim for and use. Im terrible at explaining ideas but hopfully this short explaination will hint at what i am suggesting. I would love too see a high speed transit system for getting around highsec. My suggestion would be that the mechaninc requires you have standings with the relevant Empire who controls the jump bridges and prehaps the use of some kind of ticket that you could buy in bulk from the LP store. This would be a nice addition too the LP store and would provide a good reason for grinding standings with diffeent empire' besides the pure persuit of higher level missions. Thanks for taking the time too consider this. I hope most of you will agree this is a good idea; i would love too see it implemented. Discuss GS Yes, by all means, let's make high sec even more overpowered. End yourself. (in game) Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á Mining, reloaded. -á-áADDICTED.
Internet Lawyer Steve Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:03:00 - [25] - Quote Garibaldi Sinatra wrote: How about giving us diligent hard working mission runners something new to aim for and use. Im terrible at explaining ideas but hopfully this short explaination will hint at what i am suggesting. I would love too see a high speed transit system for getting around highsec. My suggestion would be that the mechaninc requires you have standings with the relevant Empire who controls the jump bridges and prehaps the use of some kind of ticket that you could buy in bulk from the LP store. This would be a nice addition too the LP store and would provide a good reason for grinding standings with diffeent empire' besides the pure persuit of higher level missions. Thanks for taking the time too consider this. I hope most of you will agree this is a good idea; i would love too see it implemented. Discuss GS Only if the players were going to pay a tax, a very high tax, and fuel them. Internet Lawyer Steve and Associates, Bringing Justice to New Eden, One post at a time...
Istvaan Shogaatsu Guiding Hand Social Club 399	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:03:00 - [26] - Quote The fat grubs want a private highway all to themselves? That's fine... I've long fancied myself a highwayman.
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 802	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:05:00 - [27] - Quote Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote: The fat grubs want a private highway all to themselves? That's fine... I've long fancied myself a highwayman. That's the spirit.
Hemmo Paskiainen Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 334	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:12:00 - [28] - Quote This would be good if there were only such jb's to NPC null sec with jb's acting as bakons on the overview. Heavy campable friendly but moar pew pew and cheaper faction mod prices CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
Tug McLub Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 2	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:15:00 - [29] - Quote Werst Dendenahzees wrote: Do this, then I'll know where to park my tornado fleets ^^^ This
Werst Dendenahzees GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:20:00 - [30] - Quote Actually, I agree with this, but make it so that players have to fuel them just like in 0.0. Let's see who sacrifices his sanity for the good of the many.
Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 418	Posted - 2012.07.04 21:57:00 - [31] - Quote Tippia wrote: GÇªso instant access to agents, reduced taxes, no refinery waste, and (at the extreme end) free ships isn't enough? It has to be increased security as well? No. In fact, if anything, standings gain needs to be decoupled from missions as it is and be turned into something that you can gain in numerous ways. I would agree with the fact faction standings gain should be mainly from FW, after all why would you gain faction standings by killing rats or mission to corporations? Corporation standings raise with missions, yes Gain concord SS by killing rats, yes Faction just by doing some important mission every 16 missions, no, this should be reserved for FW only. Would promote more high sec/low sec pvp and make players get involved faster on cheapo throw away pvp, this can only be good. On topic: High sec JB's? -If they need you to fuel them, are destructible (so, player owned) and limited range to half of those null ones, why not? brb
Danfen Fenix 132	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:02:00 - [32] - Quote Hisec - Hisec Jump bridges? No thanks Hi sec - low sec Hi sec - NPC 0.0 Sure, that might be cool to see. or even possibly hi sec - Alliance 0.0 (limited/limits set up by alliance etc)...although improbable, just fits my dream of there eventually being an allaince who allows people through their space, possibly with taxes on gates etc (properly...not CVA style. Kinda like a player run 'Empire space' )
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 652	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:23:00 - [33] - Quote ITT: comparing shooting at red crosses to the :effort: of taking, holding, and defending sovereignty, setting up and fueling two POSes, installing and paying taxes for sov upgrades, and fueling bridges every time some idiot jumps an orca with MWD on through.
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 1404	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:46:00 - [34] - Quote so who pays for the sov upgrades and fuels the jump bridges exactly?
Buhhdust Princess Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 67	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:52:00 - [35] - Quote Didn't read the rest of the comments but. This would only work if: 1. Members of the Faction ONLY can use the jump bridges, this means that freighters will have to take a risk by being constantly wardecced to do it. 2. These would have to be fueled by someone in the factional warfare corporation.
Barkaial Starfinder Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 25	Posted - 2012.07.04 22:58:00 - [36] - Quote If 100.000.000,00 ISK for Freighters 20.000.000,00 ISK for BS 10.000.000,00 ISK for Cruisers 1.000.000.00,00 ISK for Frigates and Jumps within the same empires with 8+ Standings Then maybe.
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub Like I Give A F--K 1420	Posted - 2012.07.04 23:07:00 - [37] - Quote Barkaial Starfinder wrote: If 100.000.000,00 ISK for Freighters 20.000.000,00 ISK for BS 10.000.000,00 ISK for Cruisers 1.000.000.00,00 ISK for Frigates and Jumps within the same empires with 8+ Standings Then maybe. Why are you using commas and full stops the wrong way round? Also still no. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Bane Loppknow Pel Industries 50	Posted - 2012.07.04 23:25:00 - [38] - Quote As long as the jump bridges function the same as null bridges (Meaning no added protections or anything like that) I'd be fine with this. Wanna gank a freighter? It's a good bet they're headed for a key jump bridge. Wanna haul some freight? You just shaved 6 jumps off your trip. Everyone gets something nice. Plus, as CCP has said before, more clicks != better gameplay. More jumps = more clicks.
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub Like I Give A F--K 1420	Posted - 2012.07.04 23:29:00 - [39] - Quote Bane Loppknow wrote: As long as the jump bridges function the same as null bridges (Meaning no added protections or anything like that) I'd be fine with this. Wanna gank a freighter? It's a good bet they're headed for a key jump bridge. Wanna haul some freight? You just shaved 6 jumps off your trip. Everyone gets something nice. Plus, as CCP has said before, more clicks != better gameplay. More jumps = more clicks. If CCP really wanted to make Eve smaller they'd bring back the highways. They removed them for a reason. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Crunchie Attuxors Always Another Corporate Venture 78	Posted - 2012.07.05 01:06:00 - [40] - Quote ITT: carebears who want nullsex without nullstds. Eve forums official anthem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA
Abditus Cularius Clancularius Industries 24	Posted - 2012.07.05 01:43:00 - [41] - Quote No. Never. Ever. Please. Force projection is a terrible problem in eve, and does not need to be increased.
Iria Ahrens Ministry of War Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2012.07.05 02:58:00 - [42] - Quote Not as such. The devs said they always ask how a given change can increase contention and that iteration sounds like it decrease it. But maybe a very few LONG JB across polar opposite ends of the universe so that players wanting to visit the major hubs would still have to traverse the usual territory, while increasing the number of potential enemies that might attack a soverign space might be alright. Say a North-South, and East-West gate, and leave it at that. "I was about to say GÇ£HereGÇÖs a RubikGÇÖs cube, go f%$^ yourself,GÇ¥ because thatGÇÖs what we do with EVE Online." EVE Lead Game Designer Kristoffer Touborg for PC Gamer
BabydoII Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.07.05 07:26:00 - [43] - Quote Werst Dendenahzees wrote: Actually, I agree with this, but make it so that players have to fuel them just like in 0.0. Let's see who sacrifices his sanity for the good of the many. Or lets see who actually listens too the alliance leaders when they say "bring your own jump fuel in your cargo hold".
BabydoII Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.07.05 07:28:00 - [44] - Quote Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: so who pays for the sov upgrades and fuels the jump bridges exactly? You clearly didnt read the original post the jump fuel would come in the form of Tickets which would be bought with LP from the LP store.
TheGunslinger42 Bite Me inc Exhale. 129	Posted - 2012.07.05 07:39:00 - [45] - Quote Garibaldi Sinatra wrote: How about giving us diligent hard working mission runners something new to aim for and use. Im terrible at explaining ideas but hopfully this short explaination will hint at what i am suggesting. I would love too see a high speed transit system for getting around highsec. My suggestion would be that the mechaninc requires you have standings with the relevant Empire who controls the jump bridges and prehaps the use of some kind of ticket that you could buy in bulk from the LP store. This would be a nice addition too the LP store and would provide a good reason for grinding standings with diffeent empire' besides the pure persuit of higher level missions. Thanks for taking the time too consider this. I hope most of you will agree this is a good idea; i would love too see it implemented. Discuss GS Counter suggestion: No. Moving through hisec is safe and secure and you can even AFK it. No need to make it even quicker and easier.
Samillian Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers. 168	Posted - 2012.07.05 07:56:00 - [46] - Quote No NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Lipbite Express Hauler 126	Posted - 2012.07.05 08:17:00 - [47] - Quote Make hi-sec more attractive by introducing meaningful gameplay add-on? It will make small but very vocal null-sec "communities" feel even more lonely, bitter and frustrated. Forget about it.
Mechael Ouroboros Executor Collective 160	Posted - 2012.07.05 08:31:00 - [48] - Quote Fast travel does not belong in EVE. Regular jump bridges (and cynos, too) are more than bad enough. Gotta jump halfway across the galaxy just to find conflict these days. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it.
Mechael Ouroboros Executor Collective 160	Posted - 2012.07.05 08:34:00 - [49] - Quote Kuehnelt wrote: "Familiarity should breed adoration". Given deriving standings, this might be irritating. For instance, someone grinding Guristas standings wouldn't like having to grind away the Guristas penalties from merely shopping at Jita. And yet that's exactly how it should work. You're doing business with one of the Guristas' primary enemies. NPCs in this game are currently pure ****. It'd be nice if that changed. Whether or not you win the game matters not. -áIt's if you bought it.

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