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Gredeous
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Posted - 2010.03.26 21:36:00 -
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I was just looking for how many people would support a change to the Dominix's Bonuses. I probably bet there have been many posts about the same thing but maybe this will catch ccp's eyes and make a wonderful change with Tyrannis =)
But let me be clear, this is just an idea, I am not complaining, just trying to see the Dominix not waist its bonuses and how many agree.
Dominix Current Bonus- 5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level.
Proposed Change- 5% bonus to Large Remote Armor Repairer and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level.
Who uses hybrids on a Dominix ever, except maybe 1 to grab aggro to save your drones on a mission, but defintely not to do actual damage. So just reply if you like the idea or not and if you think the bonus should be smaller or larger.
(CCP, please fix our poor Space Whale's engines sometime soon, its been 3 months of complaining and yet nothing still, and its a dear shame to see if it took til Tyrannis to repair one of the most popular battleships in EVE.)
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Kenz Rider
J Club
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Posted - 2010.03.26 21:38:00 -
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The current bonus is 10%.
And this will NEVER change. :)
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Gredeous
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Posted - 2010.03.26 21:42:00 -
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The Bonus is 5% to Hybrid Damage, and this is just an idea and to see how many people would like it if it could change.
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Pantload
Gallente
The Underpants Gnomes
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.03.26 21:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Gredeous
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Who uses hybrids on a Dominix ever, except maybe 1 to grab aggro to save your drones on a mission, but defintely not to do actual damage...
Plenty of people, myself included. The notion that you don't fit guns to the Dominix is a fallacy and I've never been sure where it came from. The ship has 6 turret spots and a gun damage bonus. That's a clearcut sign it was designed to have guns fitted.
I vote: Leave the bonuses alone please!
PL
TUG: The Underpants Gnomes.
Buy Corps here
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Gredeous
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Posted - 2010.03.26 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pantload
Originally by: Gredeous
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Who uses hybrids on a Dominix ever, except maybe 1 to grab aggro to save your drones on a mission, but defintely not to do actual damage...
Plenty of people, myself included. The notion that you don't fit guns to the Dominix is a fallacy and I've never been sure where it came from. The ship has 6 turret spots and a gun damage bonus. That's a clearcut sign it was designed to have guns fitted.
I vote: Leave the bonuses alone please!
PL
I respect that just looking for input =)
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SuperNova221
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Posted - 2010.03.26 21:51:00 -
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No.
I love the domi, use it a lot, but no. It's gimping the I-wanna-be-a-thron loadouts and making the already powerful RR gang fits even more insane.
Also gimps some PvE fits, but nobody cares about that.
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Zhilia Mann
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Posted - 2010.03.26 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gredeous
I was just looking for how many people would support a change to the Dominix's Bonuses.
As you might have noticed, not many.
Domi is fine (as long as we're not looking at the model; it's no Imicus but it's also no beauty).
IF you were to change it, and I don't really support the idea, why not do a double drone bonus? Such as:
- 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level.
- 15% bonus to drone speed per skill level.
But honestly, I like the bonus to guns. But if you're to bonus something, certainly don't make it tank; it does that very well already. And the last thing we need is a giant Myrm.
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Gredeous
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Posted - 2010.03.26 22:35:00 -
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LOL Beautiful, I like that and okay so many people dont like that idea and thats cool.
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MWDrive
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Posted - 2010.03.26 23:55:00 -
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ill quit eve if they remove gun bonus...
now, a bit more serious... you should really fit guns on domi... domi without guns is just another average bs... for pve that is...
there are pvp fits that work great without guns... but also there are pvp fits that work great with guns...
either way, hybrid bonus is good on domi... there is a lot other ships that need a look at first... |
Berenices Herculina
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.03.27 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Berenices Herculina on 27/03/2010 00:11:29
Hell no!
[Dominix, Gankix]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Garde II x5
Ogre II x5
Glass cannon Dominix for small gang or solo pvp. 1200 DPS and it has enough EHP to survive most times. Just like flying Brutix, Hurricane or Harbinger in glass cannon gank fit. Raven can do that too with torps.
Right now the most enjoyable way to pvp in EVE is simple. Fit weapons, fit shield buffer/point/mwd and damagemods/TE's/whatever and roll down the stairs in wheelchair while firing UZIs...
EDIT: OH OP is talking about PVE.. 
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Seraph Castillon
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.27 00:19:00 -
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Dominix only really shines with guns. You're losing 1/3 to 1/2 of your dammage if you decide not to fit them.
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Footoo Rama
Gallente
Caldari Illuminati
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Posted - 2010.03.27 00:46:00 -
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No...
The Domi is the most flown hull in all of Eve... I really do not think that there is something wrong with it. What you are proposing is to make it a Logistics BS, something that it would do less well then a command ship, as well as gimp it massivly for PvE and alot of PvP leading to only CNR's being used for missions.
Most Domi pilots use guns and drones for PvE the afk setups are overrated and will not work in alot of missions.
In addition the cap of the Domi is not well suited to being a pure logistics ship, esp if you lower the duration of RR's by 25%
The domi is a jack of all trades it does almost anything very very well, no need to change it.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2010.03.27 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gredeous
Who uses hybrids on a Dominix ever, except maybe 1 to grab aggro to save your drones on a mission, but defintely not to do actual damage.
Shield Gank Domi. Mediocre buffer tank (100K), GREAT dps (1400 overheat) using only T1/T2. To be used in gangs only.
Taxman IX: Risky Venture
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JASON W0RTHING
future of humankind
The Unforgiving.
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Posted - 2010.03.27 01:33:00 -
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lolbuffingthedomioneofthebestshipsintheentiregamewhichiswhyyourbuffisactuallyanerf.
1. Scrub the Kronos from existence.
2. Make a Dominix Marauder.
3. ????
4. Profit.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.27 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gredeous
Who uses hybrids on a Dominix ever, except maybe 1 to grab aggro to save your drones on a mission, but defintely not to do actual damage.
People who don't fail do.
The bonuses are fine as they are.
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Marc Rich
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Posted - 2010.03.27 05:12:00 -
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OH HELL NO!!!!
You are not going to nerf the best damn sniper bs in the game... no other BS puts out well over 1000+ dps with my skills/impants with a optimal of 130km and another 50km of effective falloff.
Never seen another soul flying one and always get an omgwtf happened when I 8 second gank another bs before it can align to warp.... but yes... that 5% per lvl turret bonus is vital to keeping to dommy the highest dps sniper in the game... gotta have max gunnery and drones/sentries but its worth it.
Mess around with eft dude... the dommy does over 1k dps at sniper ranges and it and the Hyperion can do over 1500 dps with their guns overloaded if you have a max gunnery/drone character... along with a passive shield tank with over 130k effective and strong regen.
Call bull**** but if you take the time to check the numbers and then test in TQ to prove the stupid outa balance gallente builds aren't just eft warrior fails. Everyone always armors their gal ships even though most of the armor rep bonused gal ships have the strongest sheild tanks in the game that free up all lows for turret dmg and drone dmg mods in rigs... its like a gay french version of the old school gankageddon or thron.
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kessah
M. Corp
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.27 08:25:00 -
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5% Large Hybrid Turret Damage
5% Medium Hybrid Turret Damage 
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Red zeon
Caldari
Big Shadows
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.27 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Red zeon on 27/03/2010 10:18:17
ofc people want this change, dont make that a good change,
i want my dramiel to be able to fit and use doomsday lazor! dont make it a good change if it could.
Originally by: Footoo Rama
No...
The Domi is the most flown hull in all of Eve... I really do not think that there is something wrong with it. What you are proposing is to make it a Logistics BS, something that it would do less well then a command ship, as well as gimp it massivly for PvE and alot of PvP leading to only CNR's being used for missions.
Most Domi pilots use guns and drones for PvE the afk setups are overrated and will not work in alot of missions.
In addition the cap of the Domi is not well suited to being a pure logistics ship, esp if you lower the duration of RR's by 25%
The domi is a jack of all trades it does almost anything very very well, no need to change it.
you sure? you sure its not the drake?
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Chack'Nul
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Posted - 2010.03.27 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
5% Large Hybrid Turret Damage
5% Medium Hybrid Turret Damage
Oh you would just love that, wouldn't you?
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Carlos Helu
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Posted - 2010.03.27 10:34:00 -
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Wow... this is a trend of n00bage Ive been noticing. I'm always running into these 'pvp' corps that have pilots with under 20m sp flying these tactic-less blob smashes of buff/RR/Rook spam. If you can't fit a full rack of neutrons plus an insane tank on the dommy you shouldn't be flying it yet... stick to a myrm or a ishtar for your med blasters.
Now then like someone said above, the dommy if the hands of a skilled piolt bests all other bs 1vs1 to the point of driving some of us mad. Why do people always ***** about Gallente before they have the skills to fly any BS class ship properly for any race in PVP. RRDommy < GankSheildTankDommy
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2010.03.27 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Marc Rich
OH HELL NO!!!!
You are not going to nerf the best damn sniper bs in the game... no other BS puts out well over 1000+ dps with my skills/impants with a optimal of 130km and another 50km of effective falloff.
Never seen another soul flying one.
That's because people don't fly ships that only exist in your imagination.
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Sigaar
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Posted - 2010.03.27 12:19:00 -
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Plain and simple it is a buff that isnt needed.
T
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SuperNova221
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Posted - 2010.03.27 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
5% Large Hybrid Turret Damage
5% Medium Hybrid Turret Damage
Now this I approve of.
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Eric Prince
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.27 12:50:00 -
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No. I put a a full rack of 350's on mine and it's tasty.
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MWDrive
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Posted - 2010.03.27 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Marc Rich
OH HELL NO!!!!
You are not going to nerf the best damn sniper bs in the game... no other BS puts out well over 1000+ dps with my skills/impants with a optimal of 130km and another 50km of effective falloff.
Never seen another soul flying one and always get an omgwtf happened when I 8 second gank another bs before it can align to warp.... but yes... that 5% per lvl turret bonus is vital to keeping to dommy the highest dps sniper in the game... gotta have max gunnery and drones/sentries but its worth it.
Mess around with eft dude... the dommy does over 1k dps at sniper ranges and it and the Hyperion can do over 1500 dps with their guns overloaded if you have a max gunnery/drone character... along with a passive shield tank with over 130k effective and strong regen.
Call bull**** but if you take the time to check the numbers and then test in TQ to prove the stupid outa balance gallente builds aren't just eft warrior fails. Everyone always armors their gal ships even though most of the armor rep bonused gal ships have the strongest sheild tanks in the game that free up all lows for turret dmg and drone dmg mods in rigs... its like a gay french version of the old school gankageddon or thron.
show me the fit that does 1k+ dps at 130km, and ill give you 500m isk...
so... bs.. lets say 80k ehp... to gank it in 8 seconds.. you need 10k dps... not bad... give you another 1bil if you show me how to do that...
but, hey.. you did say something smart... gallente ships are great shield tanked... which btw a lot of ppl do.. dont know where you got idea that no one does it... |
Baneken
Gallente
Aseveljet
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.27 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: MWDrive
Originally by: Marc Rich
give you another 1bil if you show me how to do that...
Nyx with fighter bombers and full skills, did I win ? 
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AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar
Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2010.03.27 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: AnonyTerrorNinja on 27/03/2010 16:26:57
You know, it's funny, I distinctly remember having people tell me that I was crazy for having myself and my friends use shield buffered gank domis, but they oddly always refused to engage our gang all the same.
And now, a few years and proven capability on, people all over the place are using it and swearing by it as one of the most efficient fits for the ship.
Whodathunkit.
*edit* oh, and shield rigs' prices vs armor rigs' prices = much ♥
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JASON W0RTHING
future of humankind
The Unforgiving.
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Posted - 2010.03.27 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Marc Rich
OH HELL NO!!!!
You are not going to nerf the best damn sniper bs in the game... no other BS puts out well over 1000+ dps with my skills/impants with a optimal of 130km and another 50km of effective falloff.
Never seen another soul flying one and always get an omgwtf happened when I 8 second gank another bs before it can align to warp.... but yes... that 5% per lvl turret bonus is vital to keeping to dommy the highest dps sniper in the game... gotta have max gunnery and drones/sentries but its worth it.
Mess around with eft dude... the dommy does over 1k dps at sniper ranges and it and the Hyperion can do over 1500 dps with their guns overloaded if you have a max gunnery/drone character... along with a passive shield tank with over 130k effective and strong regen.
Call bull**** but if you take the time to check the numbers and then test in TQ to prove the stupid outa balance gallente builds aren't just eft warrior fails. Everyone always armors their gal ships even though most of the armor rep bonused gal ships have the strongest sheild tanks in the game that free up all lows for turret dmg and drone dmg mods in rigs... its like a gay french version of the old school gankageddon or thron.
Do please show me the fit because the best I can manage without using faction/officer gear on a domi is just over 750dps at 130km with max skills. Mind you that's still impressive ****.
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.27 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: SuperNova221
Originally by: kessah
5% Large Hybrid Turret Damage
5% Medium Hybrid Turret Damage
Now this I approve of.
It's called an Ishtar.
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“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡…
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Vasundhara
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Posted - 2010.03.29 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: JASON W0RTHING
lolbuffingthedomioneofthebestshipsintheentiregamewhichiswhyyourbuffisactuallyanerf.
1. Scrub the Kronos from existence.
2. Make a Dominix Marauder.
3. ????
4. Profit.
What he said.
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