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Bank Cashier	Posted - 2010.03.27 04:14:00 - [1] Okay so I've moved into W-space with my alliance, and setup my own medium min control tower, I got 4 x medium arty and 6x small arty with 2 x warp disrup and 2 x stasis webs. Now how do I arrange them around the POS? just in circles? Or can i just set them up in one blob above or below my POS?
Bitty Bit	Posted - 2010.03.27 11:33:00 - [2] Originally by: Bank Cashier Okay so I've moved into W-space with my alliance, and setup my own medium min control tower, I got 4 x medium arty and 6x small arty with 2 x warp disrup and 2 x stasis webs. Now how do I arrange them around the POS? just in circles? Or can i just set them up in one blob above or below my POS? groups, usually a min of 6 groups, one each side like on a die (dice) Btw, u prolly need more stuff
Bank Cashier	Posted - 2010.03.27 20:10:00 - [3] I can't seem to fit much more without offlining the hangar bay or ship maint bay, which need to be online.
Emporer Norton	Posted - 2010.03.27 22:36:00 - [4] If your in a wh I'd recommend going with a large
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2010.03.27 22:48:00 - [5] you should also look at lasers as your primary weapons. nice not having to haul ammo to them.
Bank Cashier	Posted - 2010.03.27 23:13:00 - [6] been reading on defenses but larges seem useless, esp for a medium control tower, I'm sticking with min and projectiles as hauling is no issue for me. But I'm still trying to decide what a decent setup would be and what angles to place stuff at... Anybody ahve suggestions? I was thinking of going down to only 2 mediums, and placing 1 on top and 1 on bottom vertical to the POS along with a warp disrupter and stasis webs with both blobs, and then placing 4 more blobs with 1xSmall arty 1xSmall auto arty in a 90 degree angle horizontal to the POS. Would that work out? I'm not expecting attackers as my alliance has another POS in the system and 2 carriers, and it's only a class 2, but I want gangs to think twice about attacking while I'm offline.
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.28 01:17:00 - [7] Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 28/03/2010 01:23:56 So you have a Minmatar tower with: * 4x Medium Artillery Battery * 6x Small Artillery Battery * 2x Warp Disruptor Battery * 2x Stasis Webification Battery It isn't horrible. But I think it could be better. The first things I notice: * No ECM to avoid AFK shooting. * No AutoCannons. They do more damage, track far better, and most POS attacks are point blank range. It is hard to do a much with a medium with standard modules. A few faction sentries helps a HUGE amount, and is worth the steep price. I'd suggest: * Minmatar Control Tower Medium * 1x Ship Maintenance Array * 1x Component Assembly Array (use for storage) * 1x Mobile Laboratory (optional) * 1x Ammunition Assembly Array (optional) * 1x Equipment Assembly Array (optional) * 1x Ballistic Deflection Array * 1x Explosion Dampening Array * 2x Ion Field Projection Battery * 2x Phase Inversion Battery * 2x Spatial Destabilization Battery * 2x White Noise Generation Battery * 3x Domination Medium Artillery Battery * 3x Domination Medium AutoCannon Battery * 2x Domination Small Artillery Battery * 2x Domination Small AutoCannon Battery * 2x Warp Disruptor Battery * 1x Stasis Webification Battery Anchoring extra defense modules and keeping them offline as spares is also recommended regardless of how you choose to fir your POS. Especially extra warp disruptors. Spread the modules out. At least 6 groups works: top, bottom, North, South, East, West. Don't put all the same type of modules in one group. My large POS in C2.
Mathrin	Posted - 2010.03.28 03:24:00 - [8] I think the OP is asking about placement not composition. Spread them out so that if one is taken out the enemy doesn't have to just relock and is already in range. They have to fly to optimal for each one.
Bitty Bit	Posted - 2010.03.28 03:55:00 - [9] Originally by: Bank Cashier I can't seem to fit much more without offlining the hangar bay or ship maint bay, which need to be online. You can anchor them and keep them offline until needed. I'd keep a combination of ECM and guns online and maybe 1x hardener. If u get attacked u should get enough warning to be able to offline your hangar and online more guns. Lotsa guns and ecm around a pos is a big deterrant, even if they are offline. Oh, and proj guns are the best, they will continue shooting even in re-enforced.
Bank Cashier	Posted - 2010.03.28 16:53:00 - [10] well I've mixed things around a little and added this loadout, thoughts? I wanted hardeners but couldn't fit em, I do want the hangar array because I have a LOT of different stuff that I want to keep tabbed and sorted (Call me inefficient I know, but I like to be organized). The system does have 5 POS's now, but I do want enough to just say "Hey, expect some resistance". Medium Minmatar Tower: -Tower Area Corporate Hangar Array Ship Maintenance Array Mobile Laboratory -Defense Vertical Top - 1x Warp Disrupter 1x Statis Webifier 1 x Small AC 1 x Medium Arty Vertical Bottom - 1x Warp Disrupter 1x Statis Webifier 1 x Small AC 1 x Medium Arty Horizontal West - 2 x ECM(Spacial / Ion) 1x Small AC 1x Small Arty Horizontal East - 2 x ECM(Spacial / Ion) 1x Small AC 1x Small Arty Horizontal North - 2 x ECM(Phase / White Noise) 1x Small AC 1x Small Arty Horizontal South - 2 x ECM(Phase / White Noise) 1x Small AC 1x Small Arty

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Janiries Swordhand	Posted - 2010.03.28 22:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Tau Cabalander My large POS in C2. I have 20 groups. Why in God's name do you have 4 or 5 different hardeners? Stacking penalty applies to hardeners, 1 or 2 should be enough.
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.28 23:01:00 - [13] Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 28/03/2010 23:04:04 Originally by: Bank Cashier ...I do want the hangar array because I have a LOT of different stuff that I want to keep tabbed and sorted (Call me inefficient I know, but I like to be organized). All modules that can hold anything are "tabbed" (have divisions). They are essentially all corporate hangars of various sizes and with various fitting requirements. For example, why I use a Component Assembly Array instead of a Corporate Hangar Array: * Corporate Hangar Array: 150 TF + 100,000 MW (1.4 million m3) * Component Assembly Array 150 TF + 50,000 MW (1.0 million m3) So for 50% of the grid I get 71% of the storage space. Plus, you can't build anything with a Corporate Hangar Array. It takes 3 minutes to online an assembly array, and they don't need to be online to remove stuff, just to put stuff in. If more space is needed, just anchor more modules and online/offline them as needed. Originally by: Janiries Swordhand Originally by: Tau Cabalander My large POS in C2. I have 20 groups. Why in God's name do you have 4 or 5 different hardeners? Stacking penalty applies to hardeners, 1 or 2 should be enough. All POS have two zero resists and two non-zero resists. One of the non-zero resists is 25% the other is 50%. Five hardeners is standard for a large POS: two per zero resist and one on the 25% resist. Stacking penalty isn't really an issue with only two hardeners. Mediums can get by with two hardeners, one on each of the zero resists. Smalls don't have room for any hardeners. In my case, the rest are offline for the case when all defenses are incapacitated, or the attackers incapacitate offline spare defences as fast as you online them. Stacking penalty is meaningless in that case. You can't anchor more modules outside, so you might as well as online the hardeners to make it more difficult, even if by only 1% which can be a few million EHP on a POS.
Bitty Bit	Posted - 2010.03.29 01:29:00 - [14] It looks good so far. Get 2 more ECMs for each group to cover everything, keep them offline until needed. They are really cheap anyway, so you really have nothing to lose. Go with just the equipment assembly array and use that as your hangar, that should free up plenty of power-grid for you to fit some large AC's in each group. Also at least 2x offline hardeners would be useful. They fit inside the pos shields anyway, so you won;t lose them if they are off-lined when attacked.


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