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James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 13:18:00 -
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hmmm this is more like a suggestion than pettition.
ppl who began in lets say 2008 cannot posibly catch players from 2003-2006 and that is imo huge backdraw for most of the players.
Lets see 4 examlpe WOW (which has other idiotisms "implemented" like class imbalanceness) if u work hard u can catch everyplayer no matter how old u r.
Atlantica online same.
EVE could b the gratest MMORPG in my oppinion u should just change skillpoint gaining (system). Lets say if the guy is fighting and training gunnery meanwhile there should be some muliplayer included (lets say hes gaining experience while fighting if u want logical and fair conclusion) or on activity getting some workload (like in atlantica) in points which can be than arranged by players among the skills she/he has. Ambitious players should be awarded somehow.
Now u have system where the guy whos logging every month once and began playing in 2003 will always have advantage toward the guy who started in 2007 but hes trying hard and working (playing) everyday for 5h and thats not fair
hope its good suggestion or at least is worth of reconsideration
kind regards Boshky
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.03.28 13:31:00 -
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Get the **** out. ___
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Johnny Dexter
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Posted - 2010.03.28 13:41:00 -
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Get the **** out.
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Maya Burns
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx Get the **** out.
I bet u bought an account and spent lots of RL money on it (couse its y 2004) :)
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:21:00 -
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what a totally new idea ... not.
we dont need stupid grinding in eve if you like the SP grind get back to wow.
god how i hate those mindless idiots.
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: James HeatSeeker ppl who began in lets say 2008 cannot posibly catch players from 2003-2006 and that is imo huge backdraw for most of the players.
Actually, haha, you're so wrong.
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James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever what a totally new idea ... not.
we dont need stupid grinding in eve if you like the SP grind get back to wow.
god how i hate those mindless idiots.
With that attitude u fit exactly among them (all u need is start yelling ****** and u'll b perfect)
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Abbot Laarkin
Order Of Mystical Mountain Monks
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:43:00 -
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A couple of points:
1. You are wrong. It is absolutely possible for newer players to catch up with, and in certain areas, far exceed older players.
2. This is not a new idea, it pops up on a regular basis. Search tool (poor as it is) is your friend.
3.(a) Using WoW as an example is not a great idea on this forum (see point 2).
(b) A large part of the Eve player base love this game because it is as far removed from WoW, and its absolutely horrible grind, as it is possible to get. I'm sure CCP are aware that modifying the skill training to include a "grinding" element would be a very unpopular idea.
4. If you are having skill issues try some of the other forums, new players one for a start. There is plenty of advice out there detailing how to get into the game, and at least hold your own, as a new player.
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Originally by: Sir Carnage
Originally by: Marko Riva Why does that read like they're all 12 and have an IQ of 37?
I was under the impression they were 37 and had an IQ of 12
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: James HeatSeeker Edited by: James HeatSeeker on 28/03/2010 14:40:59
Originally by: darius mclever what a totally new idea ... not.
we dont need stupid grinding in eve if you like the SP grind get back to wow.
god how i hate those mindless idiots.
With that attitude u fit exactly among them (all u need is start yelling R.E.T.A.R.D. and u'll b perfect)
With that "idea" of "ur's" you barely deserve anything else..
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James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: James HeatSeeker on 28/03/2010 14:54:40
Originally by: Abbot Laarkin A couple of points:
1. You are wrong. It is absolutely possible for newer players to catch up with, and in certain areas, far exceed older players.
2. This is not a new idea, it pops up on a regular basis. Search tool (poor as it is) is your friend.
3.(a) Using WoW as an example is not a great idea on this forum (see point 2).
(b) A large part of the Eve player base love this game because it is as far removed from WoW, and its absolutely horrible grind, as it is possible to get. I'm sure CCP are aware that modifying the skill training to include a "grinding" element would be a very unpopular idea.
4. If you are having skill issues try some of the other forums, new players one for a start. There is plenty of advice out there detailing how to get into the game, and at least hold your own, as a new player.
Like I said its merely just a suggestion (obviously not a good one :))
I have no probs my main is y 2005 I'm just trying to say that older players have a huge playground toward new ones who have a small pool (mining is the easy way to get ISK or prating and hoping for quick ISK)
I shure do agree that WOW is not a good game to make a point (full of ppl with terible attitude read: kids) I was just trying to say that ppl that work hard should be awarded.
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James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Di Mulle
Originally by: James HeatSeeker Edited by: James HeatSeeker on 28/03/2010 14:40:59
Originally by: darius mclever what a totally new idea ... not.
we dont need stupid grinding in eve if you like the SP grind get back to wow.
god how i hate those mindless idiots.
With that attitude u fit exactly among them (all u need is start yelling R.E.T.A.R.D. and u'll b perfect)
With that "idea" of "ur's" you barely deserve anything else..
U c I stoped with WOW exactly because of pimpled frustrated teenagers who do not know how to behave (awfull attitude and lack of brains). Hope that EVE wont have so much kids like you ingame couse that destroys communitiy
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shady trader
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:14:00 -
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This has been discussed before and used to be possible till CCP removed it in beta when players found ways to abuse it.
Before posting its always worth checking the commonly proposed idea's to save waiting time.
here is the link to the sticked version of your idea: speeding up training though actions. Macrointel, the place were the nature order of the universe does not hold sway. Pirates and ore thief's are congratulated by carebears for the actions. |
James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Di Mulle
Originally by: James HeatSeeker Edited by: James HeatSeeker on 28/03/2010 14:40:59
Originally by: darius mclever what a totally new idea ... not.
we dont need stupid grinding in eve if you like the SP grind get back to wow.
god how i hate those mindless idiots.
With that attitude u fit exactly among them (all u need is start yelling R.E.T.A.R.D. and u'll b perfect)
With that "idea" of "ur's" you barely deserve anything else..
Ok let me teach u what your mommy should have done. If u dont like someones Idea u say "I dont like your Idea" U can even allege why if u want to (but its not necesary). I dont know why do u feel u r entitled to arrogant posting???
with attitude like yours... I bet u dont have lots of RL friends if this is how u comunicate with rest of the world or u shurely have protetic teeth in your mouth :))))
But I think u r spending your life alone in your room couse u dont know how to establish contact with the rest of the human beeings (if that is what u r).
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OOBI 00
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:19:00 -
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EvE training is perfect how it is. My good sir, you CAN be better than an older players, you just have to pick your area and be dedicated to it. Also, it's not always "The person with the more gun skills wins"... there's other skills that you can train to gain a tactical advantage. There are also 4 races to fly... your suggestion is very predictable to someone who is a "level junkie". Train your character for what you want it to do, train it right, and evaluate every situation you come in contact with.
-This toon is roughly 1 year old, yet I have the skill point amount of most 2 year toons. "Accelerated learning" path FTW.
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shady trader
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: shady trader on 28/03/2010 15:20:19 Double post due to forum not reloading properly. Macrointel, the place were the nature order of the universe does not hold sway. Pirates and ore thief's are congratulated by carebears for the actions. |
Maya Burns
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: shady trader This has been discussed before and used to be possible till CCP removed it in beta when players found ways to abuse it.
Before posting its always worth checking the commonly proposed idea's to save waiting time.
here is the link to the sticked version of your idea: speeding up training though actions.
huh sorry I didn't know that there is waiting involved. Ok I wont do it again.
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: James HeatSeeker
Ok let me teach u ....
No, I will not let. You are too far from anything resembling a "teacher".
Also why you left WOW with its' teenagers ? You post exactly like one...
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James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Di Mulle
Originally by: James HeatSeeker
Ok let me teach u ....
No, I will not let. You are too far from anything resembling a "teacher".
Also why you left WOW with its' teenagers ? You post exactly like one...
OMG u won
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.03.28 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: James HeatSeeker
OMG u won. I didnt quite expect from the egotripper like you that would really listen It was more like retorical suggestion :)
I see. Let me guess, you topic was rhetorical as well
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.28 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: James HeatSeeker Edited by: James HeatSeeker on 28/03/2010 16:16:08
Originally by: Di Mulle
Originally by: James HeatSeeker
Ok let me teach u ....
No, I will not let. You are too far from anything resembling a "teacher".
Also why you left WOW with its' teenagers ? You post exactly like one...
OMG u won. I didnt quite expect from the egotripper like you that would really listen It was more like retorical suggestion :)
Is that an euphemism for "i wanted to troll you"?
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James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: James HeatSeeker on 28/03/2010 17:02:47
Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: James HeatSeeker Edited by: James HeatSeeker on 28/03/2010 16:16:08
Originally by: Di Mulle
Originally by: James HeatSeeker
Ok let me teach u ....
No, I will not let. You are too far from anything resembling a "teacher".
Also why you left WOW with its' teenagers ? You post exactly like one...
OMG u won. I didnt quite expect from the egotripper like you that would really listen It was more like retorical suggestion :)
Is that an euphemism for "i wanted to troll you"?
Ok u saw the topic u read it and u found it supid. Why again u keep returning? to make idiotic remarks?
Dont quite get it? Oh u have nothing else to do? Try ma.sturbation.
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Vespoi Filar
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx Get the **** out.
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CCP Adida
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:22:00 -
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removed comments that go around the profanity filter
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida removed comments that go around the profanity filter
actually mas...bation is medical expression so I dont quite get it. on the other hand why dont u remove stupid remarks and offensive posting???
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James HeatSeeker
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: James HeatSeeker Edited by: James HeatSeeker on 28/03/2010 16:16:08
Originally by: Di Mulle
Originally by: James HeatSeeker
Ok let me teach u ....
No, I will not let. You are too far from anything resembling a "teacher".
Also why you left WOW with its' teenagers ? You post exactly like one...
OMG u won. I didnt quite expect from the egotripper like you that would really listen It was more like retorical suggestion :)
Is that an euphemism for "i wanted to troll you"?
You've read the topic you entered and read the post. U found it stupid. I dont get it why do u keep returning and posting offensive messages??? Oh u feel entitled to??? Guess what I dont give a damn what problems u have in your RL and u r using forums for your vent and u keep insulting ppl. Why do u have a feeling I'm interested how smart u r and how the rest uf us r idiotic???
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CCP Adida
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Posted - 2010.03.28 18:22:00 -
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Removed additional trolling and non constructive feedback. Remember posting that "this idea sucks or i don't like it" isn't constructive. If you don't like an idea explain why and possibly give a solution.
Removed all references from that other game that you all keep mentioning. This is not allowed under rule 17
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Czert ElPrezidente
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.28 18:37:00 -
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Guys, you writen here that newer player can beat vet player is some specialized cases.
Lets write here way to do it :))).
I mean, if I train say, for HAC, then how I can beat vet player in HAC too, with all suport skills on lvl5 ? Of cousre, you can say, engage older player with your HAC when vet fly ship, that you can kill. But this will mostly time resume in older player disengaging fight even before you get chance to kill him.
And beatering vet player in manifacturing/mining/industry is out of question, for this are alts/toons. :)
Please, tell me in which way can ner player beat old . ------------------------------------------------
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.03.28 19:52:00 -
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Friends, counter-fitting, tactics, I don't know, being SMART? ___
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Abbot Laarkin
Order Of Mystical Mountain Monks
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Posted - 2010.03.28 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Czert ElPrezidente Guys, you writen here that newer player can beat vet player is some specialized cases.
Lets write here way to do it :))).
I mean, if I train say, for HAC, then how I can beat vet player in HAC too, with all suport skills on lvl5 ? Of cousre, you can say, engage older player with your HAC when vet fly ship, that you can kill. But this will mostly time resume in older player disengaging fight even before you get chance to kill him.
And beatering vet player in manifacturing/mining/industry is out of question, for this are alts/toons. :)
Please, tell me in which way can ner player beat old .
You have just proven the point yourself. If you go HAC on HAC with "all support skills at level 5" then char age is irrelevant, all that matters here is player skill, brains and a little luck. All you need to do is fly that HAC a lot and learn how to fly it well, no guarantees that the vet in question has a lot of experience with that ship.
Every ship in Eve has a finite number of char skills that will contribute to it's effectiveness, after that it's all down to you the player. Being a "vet" only means that you are more likely to have more ships at your disposal than a younger player, but you can only fly one at a time. Pick a ship, learn how to fit/ fly it well, pick your targets, kill stuff ----
Originally by: Sir Carnage
Originally by: Marko Riva Why does that read like they're all 12 and have an IQ of 37?
I was under the impression they were 37 and had an IQ of 12
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Valandril
Caldari Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2010.03.28 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: Valandril on 28/03/2010 21:13:53
Originally by: Czert ElPrezidente Guys, you writen here that newer player can beat vet player is some specialized cases.
Lets write here way to do it :))).
I mean, if I train say, for HAC, then how I can beat vet player in HAC too, with all suport skills on lvl5 ? Of cousre, you can say, engage older player with your HAC when vet fly ship, that you can kill. But this will mostly time resume in older player disengaging fight even before you get chance to kill him.
And beatering vet player in manifacturing/mining/industry is out of question, for this are alts/toons. :)
Please, tell me in which way can ner player beat old .
Yawn yawn and yawn, if you would try to beat those "vets" (most of those old toons have a driver that is medicore pvper at best [most of them royally suck and are clueless eft kids]) instead of whining on forums about SP then maybe you would figure out how easy it is to beat that "vet". I've done it (i've beaten maxed pilots in fully t2 fited BS when my sp barely allowed me to fit it properly with t1 stuff [shootout to rhamnousia is in order here), many people i know have done it, all it takes is a brain and will to fight.
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