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Tobias Xiaosen Gallente TX Holdings Company	Posted - 2010.03.30 05:33:00 - [1] Well, since this is the place for this sort of thing, I just got ganked and lost my Myrmidon AFTER paying a 50 mil ransom to Rote Kapelle. Since I obviously need some proof, here you go: Chat: Tobias Xiaosen > ransom Tobias Xiaosen > please Rote Kapelle 1 > o/ Rote Kapelle 2 > how much Tobias Xiaosen > how much you want Rote Kapelle 2 > 75M Rote Kapelle 2 > you've got a full t2 fit, shipscanned you Tobias Xiaosen > to who? Rote Kapelle 2 > actually, make it 50M Rote Kapelle 2 > to Rote Kapelle 2 Rote Kapelle 2 > Myrms are a bit cheaper these days Tobias Xiaosen > and this will get me deagressed from everyone right? Rote Kapelle 2 > C Rote Kapelle 2 > confirm Tobias Xiaosen > alright then Tobias Xiaosen > isk sent Rote Kapelle 1 > you didn't send to all of us Rote Kapelle 1 > o/ Tobias Xiaosen > so you dont honor ransoms? good to know Tobias Xiaosen > forums here i come Rote Kapelle 1 > tell your friends Rote Kapelle 3 > the tears... Rote Kapelle 4 > I didn't get paid :( Rote Kapelle 4 > you scammer! Tobias Xiaosen > you call that tears? jeez you have low standards :/ Lossmail 2010.03.30 05:19:00 Victim: Tobias Xiaosen Corp: TX Holdings Company Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Myrmidon System: XYY-IA Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 26455 Involved parties: Name: XXXX Security: -1.8 Corp: Stimulus Alliance: Rote Kapelle Faction: NONE Ship: Tempest Weapon: 800mm Repeating Artillery II Damage Done: 11616 Name: Corelatis Wing Leader / Serpentis Damage Done: 10244 Name: XXXX Security: -2.4 Corp: Stimulus Alliance: Rote Kapelle Faction: NONE Ship: Ferox Weapon: Warrior II Damage Done: 2304 Name: XXX Security: -1.4 Corp: Uninvited Guests Alliance: Rote Kapelle Faction: NONE Ship: Ares Weapon: Warp Disruptor II Damage Done: 1263 Name: XXX Security: -3.1 Corp: Stimulus Alliance: Rote Kapelle Faction: NONE Ship: Hurricane Weapon: Warrior II Damage Done: 816 Name: XXX Security: 0.1 Corp: Stimulus Alliance: Rote Kapelle Faction: NONE Ship: Rifter Weapon: Small Nosferatu I Damage Done: 212 Name: XXX Security: -1.3 Corp: Stimulus Alliance: Rote Kapelle Faction: NONE Ship: Falcon Weapon: BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM Damage Done: 0 Name: XXX Security: -2.0 Corp: Terminal Apathy Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Anathema Weapon: Warp Disruptor II Damage Done: 0 Name: XXX Security: 4.6 Corp: Stimulus Alliance: Rote Kapelle Faction: NONE Ship: Blackbird Weapon: BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM Damage Done: 0 Destroyed items: Multifrequency M, Qty: 3 Warp Disruptor II Radio M, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Warrior II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) Ultraviolet M, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Hammerhead II, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay) Acolyte EV-300, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay) Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II Damage Control II Infiltrator EV-600, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay) Medium Capacitor Booster II Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I Medium Armor Repairer II Dropped items: Nanite Repair Paste, Qty: 200 (Cargo) Multifrequency M, Qty: 2 Cap Booster 800, Qty: 11 (Cargo) Warrior II, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay) Stasis Webifier II Hammerhead II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) Cap Booster 800 Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II, Qty: 2 Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Qty: 4 Infiltrator EV-600, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) Target Painter II Medium Armor Repairer II
Jack Coutu Gallente Duty.	Posted - 2010.03.30 05:36:00 - [2] Neut Drones, Target Painter, Lasers They did you a huge favor son.
Amenosiris Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:06:00 - [3] So what do you expect to get out of this thread? This is my Sig.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:09:00 - [4] Speak to an alliance diplomat. If I recall. they have sorted this kind of issue out in the past.
Bacchanalian Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Gladys Pank Speak to an alliance diplomat. If I recall. they have sorted this kind of issue out in the past. Duels different from ransom. MAH E HONOURE OH TEH NOES ____________________ GM Sunshine > oops Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:17:00 - [6] Bad people in my Eve.
Tainted Orphen Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:18:00 - [7] For what it is worth, the pod pilot that initiated the ransom was not a member of Rote Kapelle. Also I didn't get paid, therefore was mad.
Namamai Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:20:00 - [8] You'll note that one of the members on the killmail is not a member of Rote Kapelle, but of some random corp that BNCed onto the KM. It seems that Tobias sent the money to that person, unfortunately, rather than to us, and we shot him believing him to have not paid. They convoed me afterwards, asking if we wanted some of it. :) I congratulated him on a well-executed graft. Sorry about your loss, mate. But this was the wrong way to air your grievances.
Tobias Xiaosen Gallente TX Holdings Company	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:23:00 - [9] I suppose i was under the assumption that character was an alt of yours, since that character scanned me down and pointed me, than the entire rote kapelle gang jumped in and warped to me, since i was in a deadspace pocket. At the very least you had to ganged up with each other.
Namamai Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:25:00 - [10] Edited by: Namamai on 30/03/2010 06:26:06 Cosmic anomalies can be found using the onboard ship scanner; no probes required. Our interceptor pilot bookmarked it on our original attempt to gank you, and warped to 0km upon his return :)

MicroWarpdrive II Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:25:00 - [11] ... i hate seeing these posts. i'll give you a bump for your thread, tobi. there's still some old school pirate corps that accept ransoms, but it's just sad when these things happen.
Bacchanalian Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:27:00 - [12] Originally by: MicroWarpdrive II ... i hate seeing these posts. i'll give you a bump for your thread, tobi. there's still some old school pirate corps that accept ransoms, but it's just sad when these things happen. We're not pirates. We're griefers. Go wear your eye patches somewhere else. ____________________ GM Sunshine > oops Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
Namamai Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Bacchanalian We're not pirates. We're griefers. Go wear your eye patches somewhere else. I prefer the term "NPC protection unit" - we fight for those who cannot speak for themselves. The Serpentis, the Sansha, and the Scordite shall bear your laser fire no more!
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Jack Coutu Neut Drones, Target Painter, Lasers They did you a huge favor son. Yes we did. ----- results may vary
lorcar Uninvited Guests Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 09:11:00 - [15] Hello again!
Nestor Laurenitis Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 13:22:00 - [16] Originally by: MicroWarpdrive II ... i hate seeing these posts. i'll give you a bump for your thread, tobi. there's still some old school pirate corps that accept ransoms, but it's just sad when these things happen. Undercutting your earnings potential, are we?
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.03.30 13:31:00 - [17] Yet another reason why players need to stop paying ransoms. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Phosphorus Palladium	Posted - 2010.03.30 13:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Bacchanalian Originally by: MicroWarpdrive II ... i hate seeing these posts. i'll give you a bump for your thread, tobi. there's still some old school pirate corps that accept ransoms, but it's just sad when these things happen. We're not pirates. We're griefers. Go wear your eye patches somewhere else. What a waste. Tears have no value. Show me deals where tears were sold for a profit, and I may change my opinion.
Shigsy Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.03.30 13:48:00 - [19] Edited by: Shigsy on 30/03/2010 13:48:46 Meh, I always assumed Stimulus were at least somewhat oldschool Originally by: Bacchanalian Originally by: Gladys Pank Speak to an alliance diplomat. If I recall. they have sorted this kind of issue out in the past. Duels different from ransom. There's no difference _________________________________
Kimura Masahiko Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.03.30 14:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Shigsy Edited by: Shigsy on 30/03/2010 13:48:46 Meh, I always assumed Stimulus were at least somewhat oldschool Originally by: Bacchanalian Originally by: Gladys Pank Speak to an alliance diplomat. If I recall. they have sorted this kind of issue out in the past. Duels different from ransom. There's no difference Agreed. This will be dealt with. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator

Cassius Longinus Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 15:16:00 - [21] Ever since fmerc sold a Navy Mega access to Syndicate (cuz we owned Syndicate sov, you see), then ganked it sideways, everything has been letdown. I feel a little bad for the real pirates (as opposed to spacejerks), keep living the dream gents.
Innocent Murderer Unjustly Accused	Posted - 2010.03.30 15:25:00 - [22] Keep in mind that I earn some of my isk from ransoming people (and honoring said ransoms). I know I am not the ony one out there who finds it to be profitable. Whenever other people dishonor ransoms (which is bad for them, even if they are too stupid to realize it) it costs me isk. Rote Kablooey or whatever the name is, you're now KOS to this forum-posting alt.
Whiny McEmokid	Posted - 2010.03.30 15:34:00 - [23] enjoying the 'look how much we don't care' damage control.
Nestor Laurenitis Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 18:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Shigsy Edited by: Shigsy on 30/03/2010 13:48:46 Meh, I always assumed Stimulus were at least somewhat oldschool Originally by: Bacchanalian Originally by: Gladys Pank Speak to an alliance diplomat. If I recall. they have sorted this kind of issue out in the past. Duels different from ransom. There's no difference There is a difference if you care about engaging in 1 v 1's, which we do.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Final Agony B A N E	Posted - 2010.03.30 18:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Nestor Laurenitis Originally by: MicroWarpdrive II ... i hate seeing these posts. i'll give you a bump for your thread, tobi. there's still some old school pirate corps that accept ransoms, but it's just sad when these things happen. Undercutting your earnings potential, are we? Nope, you arent. BYDI is known to honor all ransoms, like every decent pirate corp does. Some random muppets nobody ever heard of not honoring theirs is certainly not gonna damage their reputation.
Gangka Claws	Posted - 2010.03.30 19:01:00 - [26] Hmmm "There is a difference if you care about engaging in 1 v 1's, which we do." Sorry but that KM was an example of a 1 v 1? IMO never pay ransom. If you're going down then self-destruct and have a friend shoot the wreck. Leave nothing.
Andra Meikleour Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2010.03.30 19:42:00 - [27] Edited by: Andra Meikleour on 30/03/2010 19:42:14 My main has fought with Rote Kapelle a couple of time during war decs and in 0.0 not only are they skilled I also found them to be honourable foes. You obviously screwed up somehow. No sympathy from me sorry.
Bacchanalian Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.30 19:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Andra Meikleour Edited by: Andra Meikleour on 30/03/2010 19:42:14 My main has fought with Rote Kapelle a couple of time during war decs and in 0.0 not only are they skilled I also found them to be honourable foes. You obviously screwed up somehow. No sympathy from me sorry. Okay, whose alt is this and why are you trying to make us look good on C&P? DEFEND TEH E HONOURE! ____________________ GM Sunshine > oops Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
Judgge Dread	Posted - 2010.03.30 21:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Andra Meikleour Edited by: Andra Meikleour on 30/03/2010 19:42:14 My main has fought with Rote Kapelle a couple of time during war decs and in 0.0 not only are they skilled I also found them to be honourable foes. You obviously screwed up somehow. No sympathy from me sorry. Epic logic fail. So epic....facepalm worthy.
BlackHelmetMan Amarr Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.31 10:29:00 - [30] Originally by: Gangka Claws Hmmm "There is a difference if you care about engaging in 1 v 1's, which we do." Sorry but that KM was an example of a 1 v 1? IMO never pay ransom. If you're going down then self-destruct and have a friend shoot the wreck. Leave nothing. Confirming that ganking people in anom's is the same an organised duel.



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