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Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.01 02:18:00 - [1] Edited by: Boomershoot on 01/04/2010 02:32:30 Edited by: Boomershoot on 01/04/2010 02:27:26 Ok, so you're reading this because some pesky "piwate" in a frigate flipped your 3 cans full of veldspar (Or plagioclase, If you're smart :E). Well, ther are different types of flippers, let's start with labeling them. 1. Aggression Seeker Most common type, this flipper usually comes in a fast frigate with at least a propulsion module. They don't see the value of the stuff they're handling, they'll just gly blindly at you and even bump you out of scooping range. They may even come down to shoot the canister if it makes you go postal and grab your "PVP ship" to deal with him. PROTIP: don't lose your patience. 2. Industrial-On-A-Stick You can usually see these guys coming from a mile away, but if they're smart you won't have the time to react. They usually warp in at a belt with an industrial and bookmark your can only to warp back in scooping range, align and grab your stuff. These guys don't usually seek your reaction, they just want the ore. There's little you can do, other than bumping them or move the ore before they come back. 3. Pricks Funny guys, they come in a battleship or a multi-stabbed battlecruiser and take your ore. It makes little difference to them if the ore is hauled away with their alt or just left there waiting for someone to take the bait. They don't seek a fight, they seek an easy prey to fall for them. Different from Aggro Seekers, as these one are usually followed by a close-by logistic or other battleship/battlecruisers gangs. 4. WHITE WHALE That's me. Really. There are mythological beasts that roam the forest of canisters seeking for Profit. Those rogues are the most dangerous ones, and if they're not handled with care you might end burnt. They look just like aggression seekers in well-tanked frigate, optional speedmods but enough dps to whack-a-barge. Their real power is in their backup. Yes, they do around with an Orca, carrying their deadliest ships ready to open a second orifice in your bottom and kill you dead, taking your ore with them, too.
Pa Thetic Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2010.04.01 02:38:00 - [2] All pathetic losers, including the morons mining into cans. High sec is a cesspit for losers. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist OK
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.01 02:44:00 - [3] Reserved.
Lady Karma	Posted - 2010.04.01 02:47:00 - [4] Boomershot, you are not cool or sexy Just a high sec fairy that likes to type a lot of words I didn't read them
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.01 03:09:00 - [5] TL;DR for the blind 1) Don't Mine in cans. Really. 2) Bring friends. Tons of Friends. 3) Use your common sense. PVP is not in the modules. 4) Don't Mine in cans. In case you're stupid. 5) See 4. 6) There is no 6 7) Orca means troubles. People are usually waiting at planets. Scan em.
Nuadara	Posted - 2010.04.01 03:14:00 - [6] Edited by: Nuadara on 01/04/2010 03:14:10 Lady Karma, you are not cool or sexy Just a forum fairy that likes to type a lot of words I didn't read them
How2FoldSoup No Child Left Behind	Posted - 2010.04.01 03:14:00 - [7] Originally by: Lady Karma Boomershot, you are not cool or sexy Just a high sec fairy that likes to type a lot of words I didn't read them We shall agree to disagre. Boomershot is not only cool AND sexy. He is my herro I read all his words, and i worship them
Stonie Green	Posted - 2010.04.01 03:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Boomershoot WEB THE OTHER SHIP DOWN TO NEGATIVE SPEED [/quote Hey Al, Sorry for the noob question, but does that mean it will drift out of range backwards?
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.01 03:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Stonie Green Originally by: Boomershoot WEB THE OTHER SHIP DOWN TO NEGATIVE SPEED Hey Al, Sorry for the noob question, but does that mean it will drift out of range backwards? Just like a lobster.
Receg South of the Border Hand That Feeds	Posted - 2010.04.01 05:08:00 - [10] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Stonie Green Originally by: Boomershoot WEB THE OTHER SHIP DOWN TO NEGATIVE SPEED Hey Al, Sorry for the noob question, but does that mean it will drift out of range backwards? Just like a lobster. **** i lold. ----- We all have a photographic memory, it's just some of us don't have film.

Randon Alt67	Posted - 2010.04.01 05:46:00 - [11] Simple fix to the whole Neutral Orca, disable access to the hangar when you have an active player aggression timer, not one related to NPC rats. Will that stop them? Nope, but it will gimp their ability to switch out to a gank BC. Of course I would love to see CCP design a mod that allows to ships to "link" up in space and transfer ore directly. Just give them a nice little penalty for doing so.
Ran Khanon Amarr Vengeance Innovations	Posted - 2010.04.01 06:53:00 - [12] Thank you for accidentally guide, Boomer. I don't know **** about Orca ship bay mechanics though; do you just eject your kill ship and enter it with your pod or can a friendly swap ships with a menu command? Help us to make parrots game related today!
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.04.01 08:22:00 - [13] Using this guide, I have managed do decrease ore loss to visits by canflippers by 73.825% and, as a concequence, upped my effective mining yield by approximately 135.455469%! Thank you Boomer!
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.01 08:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Ran Khanon Thank you for accidentally guide, Boomer. I don't know **** about Orca ship bay mechanics though; do you just eject your kill ship and enter it with your pod or can a friendly swap ships with a menu command? Its a cap ship maintenance bay.
Swalesey Prosperity Through Violence	Posted - 2010.04.01 10:12:00 - [15] You could try thinking of eve as a "game" and of other pilots, even the mean ones as "players" and have a go at communicating with them. Lots of can flippers don't want your ore, they just want you to come with your Corp for a fight to protect your honour (tm) speak to one of the local flippers about being there bait. They drop a can fleetwd with you, you mine into that. You get flipped then said pvp pilot can kick their ass. This tactic is tried and tested, lots of people don't even spare the time to check can info. Said flipper goes about his business flipping all your competition and warps to you if you get your **** nicked. You also inadvertedly stopped said flipper from targetting you ;)
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.04.01 10:50:00 - [16] I think this option was left out: See the white whale? Bump it and have your 20 friends come suicide gank it. Simple tears reversal system. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Shiroro Vaego A.S.B.O	Posted - 2010.04.01 11:04:00 - [17] This is hardly constructive, you may of well just written don't jet can mine... Use gaint sucure can & don't forget the anchoring skill
Swalesey Prosperity Through Violence	Posted - 2010.04.01 11:42:00 - [18] Originally by: Shiroro Vaego This is hardly constructive, you may of well just written don't jet can mine... Use gaint sucure can & don't forget the anchoring skill HAHAHAHA! Yeah nothing funnier than people thinking they have a fool proof way to jet can mine, and you just taking the whole can :P
Colonel Depp	Posted - 2010.04.01 12:05:00 - [19] Edited by: Colonel Depp on 01/04/2010 12:06:51 Yeah I saw Boomer and his Orca afk at a planet in Akianavas the other night. I'm sure that tactic gets good kills in noob systems. Don't really understand why you're telling everyone though. x Orca-gank gang
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.01 12:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Colonel Depp Yeah I saw Boomer and his Orca afk at a planet in Akianavas the other night. I'm sure that tactic gets good kills in noob systems. Don't really understand why you're telling eveyone though. x Orca-gank gang Because Orca is getting nerfed in tyrannis.

Derelicht	Posted - 2010.04.01 12:09:00 - [21] ftfl;dr
Zeta Zyx	Posted - 2010.04.01 12:12:00 - [22] Well. 1. Don't jetcan mine in the belts. 2. If you're going to jetcan mine then do it in mission deadspaces. 3. If you lose a can of ore, that's the cost of doing business. 4. Always always always have a fully trained and equipped suicide ganker toon. Why? Because suicide ganking a can flipper is FUN! Especially if you pod them.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.01 12:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Zeta Zyx 2. If you're going to jetcan mine then do it in mission deadspaces. I was really hoping for someone to do that :E Here's my Orca Fittings. [Orca, NotTellingYouWhatsTheCurrentNameSorry] Inertia Stabilizers II Inertia Stabilizers II Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier I Rudimentary Ship Scanner I Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing Small Tractor Beam I Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I [empty rig slot] <-- NO RIGS [empty rig slot] <-- THAT'S RIGHT [empty rig slot] <-- MEOW Mining Drone I x5 Hammerhead I x5 Don't be stupid, a Barge in the middle of nowhere is still a lighthouse in the middle of a swimming pool, so are named cans. You want to mine your mission? Use your common sense. (And don't use cans, heh)
James Tritanius	Posted - 2010.04.01 14:47:00 - [24] Watch out, missionspace miners! Boomer will scan you down with core scanner probes on his orca!
Kri Matar Minmatar Final Agony B A N E	Posted - 2010.04.01 17:42:00 - [25] And after all your hard work, all your preparation and all the thought you have put in to not getting can flipped. I will still relinquish your hulk from the belt with 5 thrashers, regardless of said can. GIVE US US HULK! Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Adida
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.04.01 19:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Zeta Zyx 2. If you're going to jetcan mine then do it in mission deadspaces. I was really hoping for someone to do that :E Here's my Orca Fittings. [Orca, NotTellingYouWhatsTheCurrentNameSorry] Inertia Stabilizers II Inertia Stabilizers II Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier I Rudimentary Ship Scanner I Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing Small Tractor Beam I Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I [empty rig slot] <-- NO RIGS [empty rig slot] <-- THAT'S RIGHT [empty rig slot] <-- MEOW Mining Drone I x5 Hammerhead I x5 Don't be stupid, a Barge in the middle of nowhere is still a lighthouse in the middle of a swimming pool, so are named cans. You want to mine your mission? Use your common sense. (And don't use cans, heh) Whatcha gonna scan down with core probes? Might end up looking for ships for a reeaaaaaaaaaaaaally long time using those ;)
GavinCapacitor	Posted - 2010.04.01 19:25:00 - [27] At first I thought the OP was serious, and lost faith in humanity. Then I lol'd as it is April fools.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.01 19:39:00 - [28] Originally by: GavinCapacitor At first I thought the OP was serious, and lost faith in humanity. Then I lol'd as it is April fools. Heh...yeah...umh... Have some parrots now...
HarveyBirdman Esquire	Posted - 2010.04.01 21:44:00 - [29] WHITE WHALE HOLY GRAIL!!
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.01 22:45:00 - [30] Originally by: HarveyBirdman Esquire WHITE WHALE HOLY GRAIL!! Let me fix that for you.



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