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TerrorSquadMF
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Posted - 2010.04.01 19:44:00 -
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i need a chart for the amount of ore needed to build the chimera, and phoenix Cap ships, dont' feel like taking 30 minutes to go through and add it all up, there msut be soem chart.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.01 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 01/04/2010 20:51:08
Have you checked the resource sticky?
I seem to recall a spreadsheet or two, one general, one for capitals. Been a while though.
EDIT: Maybe Akita T's mastersheet has that info too(?) I seem to recall it pricing ships.
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Asperoth
Caldari
Unwakeable Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.04.01 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Asperoth on 01/04/2010 21:44:34
This spreadsheet from the sticky thread will give you what you need.
Capital ship build calc
There is also an open office version available if you don't have Excel on your machine.
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2010.04.01 22:00:00 -
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Forget those unwieldy spreadsheets forever!
The future is here and in web-app form:
Linkage
Check this guy out, his site is definitely worth registering for. (no you don't use your eve login you yarbo.)
As an added bonus you can calculate multiple build types/jobs at once, see what decryptors are profitable for invention, setup shared shopping lists for your corp, and a whole bunch of other stuff he keeps adding.
(I swear he's just doing it to get us all hooked, then he'll start charging for it.  )
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Audit Services Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.01 23:51:00 -
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No the future is here in Excel 2007 form, no api key required and the only link is the eve central prices that you don't need but is provided for convenience.
Hope this sheet helps but may be more than you need.
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2010.04.02 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kuar Z''thain on 02/04/2010 02:52:55
 Originally by: Sidrat Flush
No the future is here in Excel 2007 form, no api key required and the only link is the eve central prices that you don't need but is provided for convenience.
Hope this sheet helps but may be more than you need.
No API needed on what I linked either. That's for skill management.
Excel can eat a ****.
Keep spending time putting in the same data over and over instead of saving it in a nice online format you can share with your corp.
edit: Oh I see, you're scared of the competition. 
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lord cyrez
Caldari
xell network seven
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Posted - 2010.04.02 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: lord cyrez on 02/04/2010 09:04:10
Originally by: TerrorSquadMF
i need a chart for the amount of ore needed to build the chimera, and phoenix Cap ships
Indeed, there are tools for that. As Kuar Z'thain has already been that nice to point on my tools, let me just continue on it:
- One free account, three tools that have some nice synergies between them.
- No API-requirement. Its fully optional. If you don't provide your character, it assumes perfect skills. Still you can set the station base refining yield and standings in the OTC, to have the calculated refining values match your ingame values.
- You can calculate all the required materials with very low effort in the BPM. Add the Phoenix Blueprint and the Chimera Blueprint, run a calculation and he will tell you that there are components which you could specify ME/PE research as well. Final material requirements will be exactly as in game, if you set up your blueprints right.
- You can easily pass these mineral requirements from the BPM to the OTC. It will then calculate the time needed to mine all those minerals, based on available asteroid types you can choose. Also includes all the financial calculations in the BPM and OTC.
- It works in the IGB (EVE InGame Browser) and provides special links, so you can click the items and it opens the market windows (for example) in your EVE client. :]
OTC-Thread: Link
BPM-Thread: Link
Link to the site: http://www.xn7.de
Link to the feature page / screenshots: here
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
Check this guy out, his site is definitely worth registering for.
Aye, the registration is for multiple things. First: protect your account and sensible data from others. Second: convenience. It saves all your settings for future calculations. Without registration there would be no real way to save your settings and you would have to do them all over again, each time you'd like to use it. I know the Internets require you to register almost everywhere these days, but here you get some real benefits for your game. :]
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
(I swear he's just doing it to get us all hooked, then he'll start charging for it. )
 ...I know that was meant as a humor-comment, but just to clarify it: no, I'll never gonna charge anything - at least for the core features that are available now. Who knows, maybe I'll release some other tool or killer-feature one day, which might come at a small fee. But everything you get now will always be free. Donations are really appreciated tho, and you'll get a little benefit on top if you donate something. :]
Originally by: Sidrat Flush
Hope this sheet helps but may be more than you need.
My tools also provide more than you might need - but hey, once you get the drill you might even benefit of the extra features. Don't get scared by the huge list of features it fields, make them yield profit. :]
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
Excel can eat a ****.
Keep spending time putting in the same data over and over instead of saving it in a nice online format you can share with your corp.
This is why I created these tools. I was running a lot of different spreadsheets myself and updating them was a pain in the rear. They were also subject to errors/typos - just have one number wrong and all your calculations go bonkers. Praise CCP for the database dump they provide \ /.
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
edit: Oh I see, you're scared of the competition.
...I don't know about him, but for me competition is fine - it gets users to voice their needs and the tool-providers will, or will not, adapt to them.
edit: Kuar Z'thain is making me a happy dev. ...thanks for spreading the word, glad you like it that much.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Audit Services Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.02 16:57:00 -
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I never actually intended to cause offence. As per the entry on the 2nd April 2010 on the website I praise all developers and welcome all competition.
We all do this for different reasons I guess but the one that is shared across the board I would imagine is to learn using whatever platform you're comfortable with.
To me, those that can and do write code are Gods among men as I really wouldn't have a clue. I know how to write formulas in cells and now that I know what the v and hlookup reference can do (especially when they're nested!) I've avoided the typos that were a bane of existence for the previous versions.
Anyway, I ramble congratulations on your on line functioning tool and there's an audience for everyone's app/spreadsheet (unless they make you go blind as some spreadsheets I've seen has done).
I wonder if I will go insane trying to work with code?
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Ty Frisco
RennTech
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.04.02 17:35:00 -
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http://eve.smith-net.org.uk/
Check this one out.
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2010.04.02 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Kuar Z''thain on 02/04/2010 21:14:05
Man, apps coming out of the woodwork. Where were you guys when I started 4 years ago? 
You new guys are lucky.
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Imuran
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Posted - 2010.04.02 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
Forget those unwieldy spreadsheets forever!
The future is here and in web-app form:
Linkage
Check this guy out, his site is definitely worth registering for. (no you don't use your eve login you yarbo.)
As an added bonus you can calculate multiple build types/jobs at once, see what decryptors are profitable for invention, setup shared shopping lists for your corp, and a whole bunch of other stuff he keeps adding.
This :) A great bit of work and being updated all the time
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Audit Services Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.03 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
Edited by: Kuar Z''thain on 02/04/2010 21:14:05
Man, apps coming out of the woodwork. Where were you guys when I started 4 years ago?
You new guys are lucky.
I was playing the game four years ago sorry. Besides I don't remember needing a multiple build job calculator shopping list app then either as there was only 50 or so ships and a 1/3rd of the modules we have now.
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lord cyrez
Caldari
xell network seven
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Posted - 2010.04.03 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sidrat Flush
I never actually intended to cause offence. As per the entry on the 2nd April 2010 on the website I praise all developers and welcome all competition.
I never perceived it as such.
Originally by: Sidrat Flush
I wonder if I will go insane trying to work with code?
I can't tell, guess you'll have to try and see if you can wrap your head around it. ;]
Been doing this since I was 6 or 7, when I got in first touch with computers. Commodore 16 back then. There was no real operating system, you essentially had to study the vocabulary and know how to pass the right commands to that machine. This is when I got hooked. ;]
I for one think private projects are always a good way to learn new things or to extend experience, as you can toy around with pretty much everything. That said - I never worked that much with Excel, aside of its very basic functions. I can imagine how to get things to work, but never did that yet. So your sheet is quite extensive to me too, I would have to work out quite a lot to get something like this done. Thats the deal with computers, nobody can know everything - way too many applications and programming languages.
Latter being the key to start coding - making the right selections in languages you want to learn is somewhat important. I don't know much about desktop application programming for example, would love to learn that, but have a serious lack of time. But for the web things I could tell you quite a bunch of stuff. Most basic: you will need more than one programming language to get things going. HTML and CSS for output / displaying things, Javascript for some "no page submit/reload"-interactivity and one language for server-side processing (I chose PHP back then and I'm happy with it, despite people advocating Ruby these days a lot) and one database language, most likely SQL. Combining these languages is where the real use comes from.
And then it's all about knowing the syntax and vocabulary of these languages, handling and organizing your data efficiently and also taking care of security measures (since its a multi-user environment and you don't want people to access other peoples data by manipulating forms or requests). You can query the database for really complex things and get quick+easy returns, process them in your script as you want to apply maths, stats or functions to them and squeeze the results in your displaying templates.
Might sound like a lot of work, but you can get started rather quick. Experience will grow with each line you code and each test you perform. I think there are a lot of decent tutorials out there, which should introduce the basics of HTML, CSS, PHP and SQL easily. A hundred lines can already form a little input->process->store/transmit->output function. The xn7-site (all tools, everything around them, incl. language files) are a little over 20k lines atm. Most of that being templates/output, data processing ain't that much.
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