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TwiggyHazz	Posted - 2010.04.05 22:52:00 - [1] Edited by: TwiggyHazz on 05/04/2010 22:52:24 Been dreaming a bit recently (not good :P) Anyway was thinking, which of the following two fits would you rather fly for L4's and why? (Both fits include the use of a full set of crytals, as im rich in my dreams xD) [Raven Navy Issue, Lol fit copy 1 import 1] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile [empty high slot] Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Omni: 1200/1598 Cap: 3M 48S [Raven Navy Issue, Lol fit copy 1] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Brokara's Modified Cap Recharger Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile [empty high slot] Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Omni: 867/867 Cap: Perma at 37%
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:01:00 - [2] i fly something similar to the N¦2 fit, just the trd rig is T2 and no two shild boost amps, and only 3 dmg mods in lows. i liked it cos is perma...
Liang Nuren The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:03:00 - [3] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 05/04/2010 23:03:40 Neither one - but the second one seems like less of a headache and still has plenty of tank. It'd be pretty awesome if you could throw a T2 rigor and a RF painter at either one of the fits though. :) -Liang Ed: BTW, if I were in your shoes (HG Crystal set) I'd look into an XL booster with dual RF painters. ;-) -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Betray Caldari Valor Inc. Valor Empire	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:09:00 - [4] get a golem... or... if ur really THAT rich, a state issue -Betray-
TwiggyHazz	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:11:00 - [5] Well im leaning towards getting fit one, then two, then golem as thats what im training for. As the navy invulns and deadspace booster will obviously all fit well into it.
Liang Nuren The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:14:00 - [6] Originally by: TwiggyHazz Well im leaning towards getting fit one, then two, then golem as thats what im training for. As the navy invulns and deadspace booster will obviously all fit well into it. Meh - the Golem will also benefit greatly from having 3 RF painters to play with. :) -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Tau Dades Caldari Even End of the Universe	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:14:00 - [7] I find your lack of faction ammo disturbing.
TwiggyHazz	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: TwiggyHazz Well im leaning towards getting fit one, then two, then golem as thats what im training for. As the navy invulns and deadspace booster will obviously all fit well into it. Meh - the Golem will also benefit greatly from having 3 RF painters to play with. :) -Liang I wouldn't fit anything less than PWNAGE in my torp Golem ;) Also, you can fit an AB with a HG set and still have enough tank to play with two painters. What you recomend, the third painter or AB?
Liang Nuren The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:22:00 - [9] Originally by: TwiggyHazz Also, you can fit an AB with a HG set and still have enough tank to play with two painters. What you recomend, the third painter or AB? On the Golem? I'd say it depends on the mission. Lots of missions don't require moving around (especially if you choose your aggro order correctly)... and some of them do. Fit the painter if you don't have to move (which is overwhelmingly most of the time!). The way I do it is to have a saved fitting per mission, and then I just load up the fit for that mission and keep on trucking. It's just a shame it can't load my ammo and fill my cargo too! -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:23:00 - [10] what ever you do : 1, dont buy Golem (only ppl that never used one talk about it) 2, don't get shild bost implants on that much tank (keep +5 implants) 3, i like Liang (but don't put TP's on cruse CNR there is no need at all whith rigs, is like you alredy got TP in ever misiles you lunch) 4, well fited CNR whith maxed misiles skills run lvl 4s faster that the golem never will + if you loot you need to come in hauler cos you won't put all the loot in the golem cargo. Golem was made by CCP to trick ppl in tranning dumb skils. and it worked

Susy Assulu Caldari Atomic Mexicans	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Tian Nu what ever you do : 1, dont buy Golem (only ppl that never used one talk about it) 2, don't get shild bost implants on that much tank (keep +5 implants) 3, i like Liang (but don't put TP's on cruse CNR there is no need at all whith rigs, is like you alredy got TP in ever misiles you lunch) 4, well fited CNR whith maxed misiles skills run lvl 4s faster that the golem never will + if you loot you need to come in hauler cos you won't put all the loot in the golem cargo. Golem was made by CCP to trick ppl in tranning dumb skils. and it worked Troll harder
Seriously Bored Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.05 23:48:00 - [12] Originally by: Tian Nu 4, well fited CNR whith maxed misiles skills run lvl 4s faster that the golem never will + if you loot you need to come in hauler cos you won't put all the loot in the golem cargo. Golem was made by CCP to trick ppl in tranning dumb skils. and it worked If you have to come back to the mission area, you just tanked your isk/hour. Doesn't matter if you do 20% more DPS than the Marauder, if you had to come back at all...the Marauder would have been better.
v00d003	Posted - 2010.04.06 02:02:00 - [13] Originally by: Tian Nu what ever you do : 1, dont buy Golem (only ppl that never used one talk about it) 2, don't get shild bost implants on that much tank (keep +5 implants) 3, i like Liang (but don't put TP's on cruse CNR there is no need at all whith rigs, is like you alredy got TP in ever misiles you lunch) 4, well fited CNR whith maxed misiles skills run lvl 4s faster that the golem never will + if you loot you need to come in hauler cos you won't put all the loot in the golem cargo. Golem was made by CCP to trick ppl in tranning dumb skils. and it worked obviously somebody who has never tried a Golem
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.06 07:08:00 - [14] Originally by: v00d003 Originally by: Tian Nu what ever you do : 1, dont buy Golem (only ppl that never used one talk about it) 2, don't get shild bost implants on that much tank (keep +5 implants) 3, i like Liang (but don't put TP's on cruse CNR there is no need at all whith rigs, is like you alredy got TP in ever misiles you lunch) 4, well fited CNR whith maxed misiles skills run lvl 4s faster that the golem never will + if you loot you need to come in hauler cos you won't put all the loot in the golem cargo. Golem was made by CCP to trick ppl in tranning dumb skils. and it worked obviously somebody who has never tried a Golem yeah if you searshed litle you will know i only fly ships in EFT
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.06 07:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Seriously Bored Originally by: Tian Nu 4, well fited CNR whith maxed misiles skills run lvl 4s faster that the golem never will + if you loot you need to come in hauler cos you won't put all the loot in the golem cargo. Golem was made by CCP to trick ppl in tranning dumb skils. and it worked If you have to come back to the mission area, you just tanked your isk/hour. Doesn't matter if you do 20% more DPS than the Marauder, if you had to come back at all...the Marauder would have been better. i agree, i don't loot (apart EA, AE and mayby two more) blitzing is the best isk/h i can do cos the LP (whith dual acc i can grind two improved implants per two days). any one that did not fly Golem on EFT but actualy in game know the CNR kill faster (this actualy is not from the rawr DPS cos the Golem DPS is higher is from beeng able to kill almost everithing from far away) every mision i timed (3 of them including EA, i won 5 up to 12 min in CNR). Is simple facts.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.04.06 07:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Tau Dades I find your lack of faction ammo disturbing. Not to mention the lack of T2 rig
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.06 07:52:00 - [17] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Tau Dades I find your lack of faction ammo disturbing. Not to mention the lack of T2 rig definetly the T2 sits perfect in the trd slot Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.06 07:58:00 - [18] Edited by: Tian Nu on 06/04/2010 07:58:30 Let me just add for ppl that actually fly the Golem (not in EFT) the real impression you got from the first mission in golem is (OMG this is great) basically cos you kill BS in about 3 volleys (is the big d.i.c.k syndrome). But if you got an off money to try the CNR side by side you will instantly realize that the CNR runs missions better (try it am not bringing the Golem down is cool ship) but not worth the extra skill push. Now if they made it so the golem can fire torps like stealth bomber (range of 60km +) it will then own the raven.
Napro Caldari Buccaneers of New Eden death from above..	Posted - 2010.04.06 11:13:00 - [19] Originally by: Tian Nu Now if they made it so the golem can fire torps like stealth bomber (range of 60km +) it will then own the raven. Shows how much you know.. the Golem does hit 60km+ Torp range
SFX Bladerunner Minmatar Aperture Science inc.	Posted - 2010.04.06 12:35:00 - [20] your 'uber' CNR fits suck. [Raven Navy Issue, lvl4 lol wtf] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Capacitor Flux Coil II Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Cap Recharger II Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Warrior II x5 913 DPS with fury 1341 omni tank cap stable 39% lvl5 skills lowest resist EM at 973 SDE all implant slots utilised: 1-6 crystal set 7: KVA2000 8: ZMA1000 9: ZMS1000 10: ZMM1000 __________________________________________________ History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever..

Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.06 13:18:00 - [21] Edited by: Tian Nu on 06/04/2010 13:19:30 Originally by: Napro Originally by: Tian Nu Now if they made it so the golem can fire torps like stealth bomber (range of 60km +) it will then own the raven. Shows how much you know.. the Golem does hit 60km+ Torp range i love EvE tards ouuppsss sry EFT tards
Pantload Gallente The Underpants Gnomes Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2010.04.06 15:18:00 - [22] Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 06/04/2010 13:19:30 Originally by: Napro Originally by: Tian Nu Now if they made it so the golem can fire torps like stealth bomber (range of 60km +) it will then own the raven. Shows how much you know.. the Golem does hit 60km+ Torp range i love EvE tards ouuppsss sry EFT tards Ever heard of Javelin torps or missile flight speed/time rigs and implants? That range is definitely possible. I nominate you, madam, for forum TrollTard of the day. PL TUG: The Underpants Gnomes. Buy Corps here
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.06 15:43:00 - [23] Originally by: Pantload Originally by: Tian Nu Edited by: Tian Nu on 06/04/2010 13:19:30 Originally by: Napro Originally by: Tian Nu Now if they made it so the golem can fire torps like stealth bomber (range of 60km +) it will then own the raven. Shows how much you know.. the Golem does hit 60km+ Torp range i love EvE tards ouuppsss sry EFT tards Ever heard of Javelin torps or missile flight speed/time rigs and implants? That range is definitely possible. I nominate you, madam, for forum TrollTard of the day. PL whith Javelin probably... what dmg you do ? do you use them in missions ? GFO noob !
Seriously Bored Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.06 15:55:00 - [24] Edited by: Seriously Bored on 06/04/2010 16:00:07 Q: Originally by: Tian Nu whith Javelin probably... what dmg you do ? A: Still more than your CNR. They are indeed used in missions. Quote: PS. let me just add that i don't shoot 1k ISK per torp pop at mission rats. And you are making less isk/hour because of it. RF and T2 ammo are cost efficient on top-tier AC ships, and therefore every other top tier mission ship. I've seen plenty of well-thought arguments that the CNR is better than the Golem at a significant number of missions. I won't argue which is the better ship. But your posts seem to have devolved into unsupported fanboyism.
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.04.06 15:57:00 - [25] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: TwiggyHazz The way I do it is to have a saved fitting per mission, and then I just load up the fit for that mission and keep on trucking. got to 1 up you as I have various ship fittings saved ranging from cnr, mach and the king of all Nightmare for particular missons.
Tian Nu Ministry of War	Posted - 2010.04.06 16:04:00 - [26] Originally by: Seriously Bored Edited by: Seriously Bored on 06/04/2010 16:00:07 Q: Originally by: Tian Nu whith Javelin probably... what dmg you do ? A: Still more than your CNR. They are indeed used in missions. Quote: PS. let me just add that i don't shoot 1k ISK per torp pop at mission rats. And you are making less isk/hour because of it. RF and T2 ammo are cost efficient on top-tier AC ships, and therefore every other top tier mission ship. I've seen plenty of well-thought arguments that the CNR is better than the Golem at a significant number of missions. I won't argue which is the better ship. But your posts seem to have devolved into unsupported fanboyism. reserved (am going to fit you dmn torpedos to see how the perform) will get back on this post.
Pantload Gallente The Underpants Gnomes Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2010.04.06 16:56:00 - [27] Back to the OP... You first proposed fit has better latitude in "Oh **" moments. I would suggest: - Skip the Shield boost amp, - Use 3x specific hardeners where possible ( sometimes 2x specific + 1x faction invuln ), - Fit a painter in slot vacated by shield boost amp ( use PWNAGE or faction ), - Skip the Crystal implants, - Exchange the DC II for a Signal Amplifier II, - Upgrade one rig to T2 if possible, - Use fury missiles for BC/BS targets where possible, - Invest in proper hardwires for slots 6-10 ( explo rad, explo velocity, flight speed, cruise damage, and launcher ROF ) Max out your missile support skills. It is VERY worth it. Just some thoughts. Enjoy. PL TUG: The Underpants Gnomes.** Buy Corps here
TwiggyHazz	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:00:00 - [28] Originally by: SFX Bladerunner your 'uber' CNR fits suck. [Raven Navy Issue, lvl4 lol wtf] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Capacitor Flux Coil II Gist B-Type X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Cap Recharger II Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile [empty high slot] Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Warrior II x5 913 DPS with fury 1341 omni tank cap stable 39% lvl5 skills lowest resist EM at 973 SDE all implant slots utilised: 1-6 crystal set 7: KVA2000 8: ZMA1000 9: ZMS1000 10: ZMM1000 At least my fit is realistic, yours with furies and zero rigors or painters is gonna be doing full damage on just about nothing smaller than a capital :)
Pantload Gallente The Underpants Gnomes Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2010.04.08 15:20:00 - [29] I couldn't let this thread go away. I was really enjoying the banality of the Tian person. PL TUG: The Underpants Gnomes. Buy Corps here


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