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Ick Ickagami
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Posted - 2010.04.06 16:31:00 -
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I see much posting about "is this found in wormholes" and "will that be allowed on moons in wormholes" and "what about planets in wormholes" and so on.
Listen closely, children, while I attempt to give you a small bit of education. I hesitate in doing this because of the large amount of laughter generated by the above ignorant comments, but the human compassion in me screams out for mercy to you, so......
There is nothing in a wormhole. A hole, by any and every definition, is a void; vacant of material.
Ther old joke goes, "If you dig a hole six meters by six meters, six meters deep, how much dirt is in the hole?", and of course, the answer is none.
It is a hole.
The same is true of wormholes. There is nothing in the hole. There is wormhols space beyond the hole, but, alas, the hole itself is simply void of material.
Now, kiddies, run along and play nicely with each other, and remember, a hole is empty.
Much like your skullz.
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Lork Niffle
Gallente
External Hard Drive
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Posted - 2010.04.06 16:36:00 -
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I don't think you are taking the 4th dimensionality relativity into account.
Every player who exists inside wormhole space; the other side of the hole, in inside the the space the player from the outside is looking in since it's a 4th dimensional object. Relative to the 3rd dimension you observe things through the phrase 'inside' makes perfect sense since that is in reality what is actually there and where they exist in relation to your observation and existence.
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Ai Mei
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Posted - 2010.04.06 16:45:00 -
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No just stop. Let's just stop right here and pretend this topic and this lesson of logic never happened.
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Derelicht
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Posted - 2010.04.06 16:51:00 -
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Thanks for that.
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S'qarpium D'igil
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Posted - 2010.04.06 17:05:00 -
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thanx i feel smarter now lol
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.04.06 17:08:00 -
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A hole is not empty. Something is in the hole or it wouldn't exist as nothing does not exist and empty implies nothing. Empty merely means vacant of expected content.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.04.06 17:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Abrazzar
A hole is not empty. Something is in the hole or it wouldn't exist as nothing does not exist and empty implies nothing. Empty merely means vacant of expected content.
This.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Atticus Fynch
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Posted - 2010.04.06 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 06/04/2010 17:42:18
Inside a hole you will find Courtney Love.
HOLE
Buit seriously kiddies...
a wormhole is a doorway. It is no more empty or full than the doorway in your home.
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Sphit Ker
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Posted - 2010.04.06 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
A hole is not empty. Something is in the hole or it wouldn't exist as nothing does not exist and empty implies nothing. Empty merely means vacant of expected content.
I'd say even more. Nothing is still something: it's nothing.
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Stupid McStupidson
Gallente
Hoek Lyne and Sinker
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Posted - 2010.04.06 18:08:00 -
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Pedantic much? |
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Radgette
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Posted - 2010.04.06 18:11:00 -
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putting commas before an and in a sentance is bad grammar too, but i guess you knew that :p
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.04.06 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Radgette
putting commas before an and in a sentance is bad grammar too, but i guess you knew that :p
That's a common fallacy as it's not always the case. But it's easier to remember not to do it so that is what we are taught. Damn those teachers!!!
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.04.06 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sphit Ker
Originally by: Abrazzar
A hole is not empty. Something is in the hole or it wouldn't exist as nothing does not exist and empty implies nothing. Empty merely means vacant of expected content.
I'd say even more. Nothing is still something: it's nothing.
Nothing does not exist. If it would exist, it would be something, not nothing.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.06 18:30:00 -
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Actually the English term nothing is so vague that you usually have to clarify it's use or determine from context what the speaker/writer meant.
For example, do they mean literally nothing, which is to say a place holder for something that does not now exist? Or did they mean something of such vanishingly small importance as to not be worth considering - the last example clearly shows that nothing can refer to something, and what we regard as non-existent is the object's importance to the matter at hand.
Furthermore the term hole, in an of istelf, is confusing, since it can be used to refer to both something that allows passage completely through another object (such as a tunnel thorugh a mountain) or a cavity carved out of another solid object.
Also, I'm just rambling because I love posts about semantics.
--Vel
Originally by: Jiseinoku
Mining is the path to enlightement.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.04.06 19:08:00 -
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Nothing can be something from a subjective definition. Usually the nothing being defined by the lack of something with the something depending on the expectation. As expectation requires a consciousness to be defined, this definition of nothing through lack of something is only subjective. Objectively a consciousness to apply a expectation of something that would define the nothing does not exist and thus the definition of nothing does not exist, hence nothing does not exist objectively.  
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.06 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Nothing can be something from a subjective definition. Usually the nothing being defined by the lack of something with the something depending on the expectation. As expectation requires a consciousness to be defined, this definition of nothing through lack of something is only subjective. Objectively a consciousness to apply a expectation of something that would define the nothing does not exist and thus the definition of nothing does not exist, hence nothing does not exist objectively.
Did you just prove that nothing from nothing leaves nothing?
--Vel
Originally by: Jiseinoku
Mining is the path to enlightement.
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Aera Aiana
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Posted - 2010.04.06 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
A hole is not empty. Something is in the hole or it wouldn't exist as nothing does not exist and empty implies nothing. Empty merely means vacant of expected content.
Doesn't change the fact that saying stuff like "I'm in wormhole xyz" is wrong. You don't say "I'm in the amarr stargate" either. In EVE you're either on one side of the wormhole or the other. Not that I really care about such semantics. Just elaborating the OPs point...
Anyway, whether or not you could park inside a real wormhole isn't the issue here. From what I know about the subject you actually couldn't unless you were made of exotic matter. Yes, that's the proper term, and yes, that's all theory, so who cares? 
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Exploding Tukey
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Posted - 2010.04.06 20:27:00 -
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Suddenly the illusion of solitude shatters. Slender, articulated obsidian shapes slide toward you from the surrounding darkness of space. Your sensors scream claxons into your auditory cortex as the drones' targeting systems lock onto your ship. You are not alone. Perhaps you never were.
# The Sleepers have risen.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.06 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 06/04/2010 20:46:58
Hey OP.
I'm goning to let you finish, but I want to say that I think you have failed at trying to look smart 
Some light reading for you.
EDIT: No one has ever been in a worm hole before; no one can definitively say that there is or is not matter present in worm holes. Most say that worm holes, by theoretical definition, either spit out or suck in matter, therefore are neither full nor empty.
Slade
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.04.06 21:17:00 -
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Wormholes
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Ryhss
Caldari
42nd Airborn
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Posted - 2010.04.06 22:42:00 -
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Stop trying to apply our laws of physics on a a fictional realm. But it's true, there's nothing in a wh, but there is through a wh.
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SomebodyKickedMyDog
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Posted - 2010.04.06 22:55:00 -
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OH GOD HE'S RIGHT! WHAT HAVE I BEEN DOING ALL THIS TIME? MY LIFE IS NOW FALLING APART. I FEEL A DEEP, EMPTY HOLE WITHIN ME.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.04.06 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ryhss
Stop trying to apply our laws of physics on a a fictional realm. But it's true, there's nothing in a wh, but there is through a wh.
If something passes through something is it not then required that the thoroughfare must have something in it at some point in time.
If you cross through a doorway are you never in the doorway?
Slade
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j2kf
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Posted - 2010.04.06 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ick Ickagami
I see much posting about "is this found in wormholes" and "will that be allowed on moons in wormholes" and "what about planets in wormholes" and so on.
Listen closely, children, while I attempt to give you a small bit of education. I hesitate in doing this because of the large amount of laughter generated by the above ignorant comments, but the human compassion in me screams out for mercy to you, so......
There is nothing in a wormhole. A hole, by any and every definition, is a void; vacant of material.
Ther old joke goes, "If you dig a hole six meters by six meters, six meters deep, how much dirt is in the hole?", and of course, the answer is none.
It is a hole.
The same is true of wormholes. There is nothing in the hole. There is wormhols space beyond the hole, but, alas, the hole itself is simply void of material.
Now, kiddies, run along and play nicely with each other, and remember, a hole is empty.
Much like your skullz.
Lol, does this make you feel better? has your inferiority complex been satisfied for the day? is your e-peen throbbing at the 'schoolin' you just did? Damn pathetic bro.
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