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bjconstontien
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: bjconstontien on 07/04/2010 12:19:31
Edited by: bjconstontien on 07/04/2010 12:17:25
Hello
even though i have hardly any skill points i have been elected as the autocratic leader of a good sized corp over people with far more experience due to my diplomacy skills and natural charisma.
As the heady rush of total power hit i understood that with these 25 warriors i can plan my campaign to storm the gates of hell. But i started to wonder just how long it takes for reality to take over and for me to get bogged down with administration and solving in corp disputes and petty squabbles.
Your valuable corporate CEO views
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:23:00 -
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It will take 2 days, 15 hrs 12 minutes and 35 seconds for you to get annoyed - give or take depending on what kind of people are in your corp.
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Bibbleibble
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:31:00 -
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in terms of hours,
x/y * (x+y) + z
where x is the number of useful members, and y is the number of useless members. Z is the anger constant, which demonstrates how short tempered you are. 
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Ick Ickagami
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ick Ickagami on 07/04/2010 12:38:14
 Originally by: bjconstontien
........i have been elected as the autocratic leader of a good sized corp over people with far more experience due to my diplomacy skills and natural charisma.....................
An anarcho-syndicalist commune? You take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week? But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting? By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more...............
( sorry, couldn't resist.........  )
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bjconstontien
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: bjconstontien on 07/04/2010 12:43:22
Edited by: bjconstontien on 07/04/2010 12:43:01
Somehow i thought it would be as much
I also have my own company that i run for most of the hours of the day. But for some strange reason i have decided that the few precious hours that i get to myself or to be with my woman will now be spent doing a fantasy version of my normal life but with no profit and i have to pay for the pleasure.
EDIT Ick nice work mate
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:44:00 -
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Bogged down with admin didnt hit me till we were around 30-35. Anger over not recruiting enough was then replaced by anger over people that were recruited causing trouble.
As an aside, if you want some 0.0 opportunities for your corp, hit me up via EVE Mail.
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meat vapour
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:55:00 -
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i think the question you should be asking is: how long before i ream these people for everything i can get my hands on?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:59:00 -
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Delegate.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.04.07 15:22:00 -
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As an ex-CEO I can tell you only this. You have 3 timers to problems:
1) until your members get bored and start fighting each other instead of fighting someone else (with words or with ships). Possible solutions: make some lowsec roams and trips to w-space. Maybe join factional warfare for easy targets and no sec status drop for a lowsec kill. Hell, you can even wardec someone just for fun 
2) until s*** hits the fan and your corp buddies start loosing many ships. Possible solutions: find an alliance that you can join in your region of space and learn from them by participating in alliance ops.
3) if all goes nice and easy and you're doing your job right, you'll keep getting requests for building a stronger and more verstatile corporation and expectations are going to keep growing. Possible solutions: Find a few people in your corporation that you can trust and give them some of the corp responsibilities. For example, form up a board of directors and give each director a specific role... like industry director, pvp director, training director... That way your corp can keep getting stronger and you don't have to deal with everything (the greater the expectations, the harder and more time consuming your job as a CEO is).
If any of these 3 timers finish counting down to 0 before you do something about it, you'll be in trouble.
I hope this helps.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.07 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ick Ickagami
Edited by: Ick Ickagami on 07/04/2010 12:38:14
Originally by: bjconstontien
........i have been elected as the autocratic leader of a good sized corp over people with far more experience due to my diplomacy skills and natural charisma.....................
An anarcho-syndicalist commune? You take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week? But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting? By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more...............
( sorry, couldn't resist......... )
Sumpreme Executive power is derived as a mandate for the masses... not some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Look, if I was to go around saying I was an Emporer just because some moisten bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
Meh off the top of my head and I haven't watched it in years 
For the OP: get a railgun and blow your brains out now. It'll save you so much hassle in the long run.
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2010.04.07 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Delegate.
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Dek Kato
Amarr
Delusions of Mediocrity
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Posted - 2010.04.07 18:37:00 -
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As someone who has recently ended my tenure as CEO (which I gained in much the same way and circumstances as you), I'll share my thoughts.
A lot of this depends on you. Being a CEO gains you nothing really. All it does is require more work and time within your Corporation without any reward. Other than obviously the ability to steal whatever you can get your hands on from the Corp, but I'm going off being a GOOD CEO.
So if leading people is really your thing and you just enjoy it naturally, you could never get bored of it and thrive in the environment. Or you've taken the time to realize what it entails and you already hate it. Its probably somewhere between the two. It took me a couple months before dealing with recruitment, politics, etc just got to be annoying. It became a real negative for me. At this point we changed gears and started fighting some wars, which improved it and the Corp as a whole as everyone was generally happier pew-pewing away. However it created the problem of anytime we weren't shooting tension would rise and people would be dissatisfied.
So, overall, the real answer to your question is it entirely depends. If you really like it, you'll be OK. If you make sure the Corp has a strong direction, even better. Also, as it gets bigger, all these things will increase, so keep that in mind.
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Mukutep
Gallente
The Freelancer's Mining Cartel
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Posted - 2010.04.07 19:29:00 -
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Administration and day-to-day tasks: That's what Directors are for.
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Blasphemour
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Posted - 2010.04.08 10:15:00 -
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I've been in a similar situation, and I must say that I quite like being CEO.
Have some trusted members as directors and have all the fun you want.
Realize that a lot of the time you used to spend doing stuff that is cool in EVE will now go to talking to members, talking to corps that feel offended by your members, talking to new recruits and figuring out how you will get moar ISK for that awesome POS that was on sale in Jita
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.04.08 10:40:00 -
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Nah,
You suck. Head back to WoW.
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.08 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Blasphemour
talking to corps that feel offended by your members
F1-F8?
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Tokyo Vigilante
Amarr
Origin.
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.04.08 11:19:00 -
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Its a game, if you remember that and treat it as such all will be well. Some words of wisdon - always blame everything on the guy that cant speak English.
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Kasmir
Caritas.
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Posted - 2010.04.08 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kasmir on 08/04/2010 16:54:52
1. steal corp assets
2. leave corp
3. use isks to buy large amounts of internet spaceships
4. you have won eve
If you do want to put yourself through the very annoying experience of corp mangament then just get people do do your job. Pick out a few smart members that play a bit and get them to take care of stuff that you don't have the time to do. Not doing this will lead to disaster and disbandment.
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karttoon
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.08 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: meat vapour
i think the question you should be asking is: how long before i ream these people for everything i can get my hands on?
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Swiftgaze
Elysium Trading Company
Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.08 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: karttoon
Originally by: meat vapour
i think the question you should be asking is: how long before i ream these people for everything i can get my hands on?
Ahahaha. I'm a bit jealous. But you rock. \m/
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.04.08 17:23:00 -
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Some advice on a corp this size:
1. Quickly determine which of your members are competent and capable, (but more importantly have the actual interest in helping run the group) and get them into authority positions that will help things run smoother.
2. You need to be thinking several weeks ahead as far as activities and plans for your group. If you constantly have activities and fun things for everyone to do, you'll get a greater sense of teamwork and more interest from your current members.
3. Keep everyone informed (to the extent you feel is wise) about what is going on, via corp mails, bulletins, etc. This is easy to forget since you as CEO will already know, but don't forget that everyone else in your group isn't privy to a lot of the information you'll be dealing with. Keeping an open line of communication with everyone you work with will build trust, and show that you actually do care about what they think (which you should)
4. Take suggestions and criticisms from members seriously, even if you decide against them. Members who have things to say and feel like they are being ignored won't be members for much longer.
5. Most importantly have fun! If you appear stressed out and too busy for everyone all of the time, it will set a bad example. Out of everyone in your group, you should always be the most calm and under control in any situation. Ie: if the boss starts panicking, then so will everyone else, or they'll just lose respect.
Silas Vitalia
CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard
Open for Recruitment!
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