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Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.07 01:36:00 -
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So the big question from my corp mates is what is the impact to the corp when I start doing pirate activities/ninja salvage in low sec space. Do I have to worry about some massive mega capital ship warping to my corp headquarters and demanding my head on a stick?
I fully intend to make a hefty amount of money at some point through Piracy
Say what you want about forums and trolls, EVE forums have been good to me |
Zoe Athame
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.07.07 01:52:00 -
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It will depend on who you **** off. Prey on weaker targets/carebears if you don't want them to fight back. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.07.07 01:53:00 -
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**** people off, and you could get consequences.
But probably not.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
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Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.07 01:54:00 -
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Zoe Athame wrote:It will depend on who you **** off. Prey on weaker targets/carebears if you don't want them to fight back.
This was my expectation, I just needed confirmation of sorts. So I need to check people out before I go asking for their wallets lol
Say what you want about forums and trolls, EVE forums have been good to me |
Khanh'rhh
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Posted - 2012.07.07 14:13:00 -
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I've stolen countless billions from people and caused a full spectrum of grief and pain.
No one has ever put up an (effectual) response to this, YMMV.
Note, this includes me laughing at people threatening me in return. If your corp mates are going to be scared by the threat of wardecs (or the actuality of one landing) then you'd be best to find a corp who are more about mischief, as you will undoubtedly receive both in short order.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.07.09 01:36:00 -
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You'll mostly receive threats from your victims about their friend in a bad, bad mercenary alliance that will get you. Nothing will come of it. Or they'll tell you that their friend has a titan. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.07.09 01:44:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL9mSQ7VGs ;)
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Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:32:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL9mSQ7VGs ;)
I got about 20 seconds in and started to doze off. What was I looking for exactly?
Troll proof since...well...forever. |
Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:36:00 -
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Lord Arakkis wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL9mSQ7VGs ;) I got about 20 seconds in and started to doze off. What was I looking for exactly?
You'll never make it as a pirate. That video was the most important test of piracy & you failed. |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:37:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL9mSQ7VGs ;) I got about 20 seconds in and started to doze off. What was I looking for exactly? You'll never make it as a pirate. That video was the most important test of piracy & you failed.
lol, it was some half-hearted and pathetically inept attempt at trolling. However, said troll definitely needs some practice in low sec troll space.
Troll proof since...well...forever. |
Mallak Azaria
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:38:00 -
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Lord Arakkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL9mSQ7VGs ;) I got about 20 seconds in and started to doze off. What was I looking for exactly? You'll never make it as a pirate. That video was the most important test of piracy & you failed. lol, it was some half-hearted and pathetically inept attempt at trolling. However, said troll definitely needs some practice in low sec troll space.
How little you know. |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:41:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTL9mSQ7VGs ;) I got about 20 seconds in and started to doze off. What was I looking for exactly? You'll never make it as a pirate. That video was the most important test of piracy & you failed. lol, it was some half-hearted and pathetically inept attempt at trolling. However, said troll definitely needs some practice in low sec troll space. How little you know.
I know that I know. So while that may be little, I still know.
Troll proof since...well...forever. |
Lost Greybeard
Fenrir's Dogs of War
Union 0f Revolution
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Posted - 2012.07.09 08:40:00 -
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Like others have mentioned, it's going to depend how much damage you do and how big and scary your corporation is.
Generally speaking, losing a ship is considered the basic price of doing business in Eve, so while people will be frustrated and annoyed if you blow up their ship, they're not going to really call it actually worth the effort of tracking you down, much less taking it out on your corporation, especially if you made the kill in low sec.
Now, if you pull some **** like an invitation scam (inviting someone to your corp in high-sec so you can blow up their mission/mining ship) or pick on a specific corporation to the tune of them not being able to do their stuff or losing a few billion, prepare to be wardec'd and locator'd to death, obviously. But just being a normal pirate, nah, no vengeance beyond people marking you in people&places and jumping you personally if they see you in local again. |
Cannibal Kane
Geordie Freckler
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Posted - 2012.07.09 10:03:00 -
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It depends on your and your corp mates mindset.
I do what I do in the hopes that things escalate.
I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.09 14:08:00 -
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Lost Greybeard wrote:Like others have mentioned, it's going to depend how much damage you do and how big and scary your corporation is.
Generally speaking, losing a ship is considered the basic price of doing business in Eve, so while people will be frustrated and annoyed if you blow up their ship, they're not going to really call it actually worth the effort of tracking you down, much less taking it out on your corporation, especially if you made the kill in low sec.
Now, if you pull some **** like an invitation scam (inviting someone to your corp in high-sec so you can blow up their mission/mining ship) or pick on a specific corporation to the tune of them not being able to do their stuff or losing a few billion, prepare to be wardec'd and locator'd to death, obviously. But just being a normal pirate, nah, no vengeance beyond people marking you in people&places and jumping you personally if they see you in local again.
Good to know. My full intention is to be an honorable pirate. No pod killing unnecessarily, lame ganks or cheap corp kills. The stuff I have read in that vein spins my head.
My interest is to prey on the valuable ships, and somewhat veteran players where the risk is worth the reward. I want a reputation, but not one as a skeezy pirate. People should know if they find me warp scrambling them, they know if they pay the will live.
Troll proof since...well...forever. |
Lyric Lahnder
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2012.07.09 17:38:00 -
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Most people dont Act on vendettas in this game.
Now. That doesn't mean they wont hold a grudge against you if you steal from them or grief them enough. It just means they've got better **** to do then drop a cap on some new players face that stole from them.
Not to mention dropping capital ships solo in low sec is a fantastic way to loose them.
You can loot other peoples wrecks but honestly salvage is basically valuable garbage. you cant get a flag for salvaging some one else wrecks you just cant lock a tractor beam on it.
If your running around doing low sec salvaging if you get it, get out and sell it may have well been yours. If your in low sec and your stealing some one else's wreck they wont get angry with you they'll just blow you up right then and there.
Its low sec.
Heres another example of how vendettas or grudges really aren't a driver of player actions at the micro level.
For a null sec grunt your loyalties have probably changed at the collapse of every null sec alliance you've been apart of. Grunts are only looking for null sec homes, and alliances are only looking for people who aren't drama causing ass hats, and that do show up to fleets and shoot what the FC tells them. Its not like there going to be like: "Hey I fought against your alliance two years ago Ill never let you into my corp!" It just doesn't work like that.
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Master Tarn
Hax.
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Posted - 2012.07.09 18:08:00 -
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If you want to grief be prepared to fly with griefers as someone mentioned above.
If you want to pirate, then you will be confined to lowsec only soon enough because of sec status. There's no point in declaring war to someone who is -10.0
The noobs/carebears that go into lowsec might hunt you so you can kill them over and over again. The not so noobs in there will probably kill you. If you stay in empire they will just use their killrights on you. If your bounty gets high enough your corpmates will probably pod you :)
It's not that difficult.
bottom line:
Eve giveth and Eve taketh away. |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.10 12:57:00 -
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I have absolutely no intention on being a griefer of any sort. I do want to make good cash on ransoms. Or if my skills reach a point where I can claim bounties myself, Im all for that.
My only concern (albeit not a great one) is the fact that Im really new to a game that has been around for years. So there are players who have seen the best and worst of the game, and their experience far trumps mine. I learn something new everyday though, and that only furthers my desire to test myself in low sec.
Troll proof since...well...forever. |
Homo Jesus
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:06:00 -
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Lord Arakkis wrote:I have absolutely no intention on being a griefer of any sort. I do want to make good cash on ransoms.
The person you are ransoming is going to consider that grief as soon as you make the offer. If you just beat some random idiot in a game of poker and took all of his money because you are a very good player would you give it all back if he cries? |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:55:00 -
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Your actions in game can bring a response to your corporation just as much as your words on these forums can bring about responses to your character in game.
Keep in mind what kind of corporation you belong to and what kind of reputation it wants and doesn't want.
If you are a member of a high sec indy corp with a high sec pos that would like absolutely nothing more than to be left alone to use their POS and do their indy activities in peace, then no... I would advise against peeing in other people's cornflakes for your corporation's sake.
On the other hand, if your corp is the kind of group who publicly and actively does that kind of stuff and is well aware of the consequences of their actions, go for it.
In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.10 14:06:00 -
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Homo Jesus wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:I have absolutely no intention on being a griefer of any sort. I do want to make good cash on ransoms. The person you are ransoming is going to consider that grief as soon as you make the offer. If you just beat some random idiot in a game of poker and took all of his money because you are a very good player would you give it all back if he cries?
There is a difference between griefing and being a pirate. They may not like that they were ransomed, but it was well withing the rules of the game, especially seeing that I am letting them live.
My interp of griefing is just being downright a nuisance. Invite to corp just to kill. "can flipping" or whatever they call that. Anything that is just being immature. Not interested.
Troll proof since...well...forever. |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.10 14:08:00 -
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Pinstar Colton wrote:Your actions in game can bring a response to your corporation just as much as your words on these forums can bring about responses to your character in game.
Keep in mind what kind of corporation you belong to and what kind of reputation it wants and doesn't want.
If you are a member of a high sec indy corp with a high sec pos that would like absolutely nothing more than to be left alone to use their POS and do their indy activities in peace, then no... I would advise against peeing in other people's cornflakes for your corporation's sake.
On the other hand, if your corp is the kind of group who publicly and actively does that kind of stuff and is well aware of the consequences of their actions, go for it.
Thanks. Kinda what I was looking to hear. This is a big discussion between my corp mates and all.
Troll proof since...well...forever. |
Homo Jesus
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2012.07.10 15:36:00 -
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Lord Arakkis wrote:well withing the rules of the game
My interp of griefing is just being downright a nuisance.. being immature
If you come along and screw up my chained rats while attempting to salvage you are a nuisance. If you try to lurk and salvage wrecks from my battlefields and ganks you are a nuisance. Both of those would cause me to take a look at you and your corp.
Let's not kid ourselves, we're all too old to be playing video games and probably 75% or better are 32 yr old fetbelly neckbeards. Immaturity comes in when the other guy can't take a loss. The difference between being a "pirate" and "grifer" is determined by the looser.
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