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happygoat	Posted - 2010.04.11 16:45:00 - [1] Ok so i see all these dudes in lo sec with -10 sec status camping a station and I wonder how anyone can possibly make isk outside of empire to support factions battleships. Then I find out that they can buy plexes for like only 15 bucks each or something and get 400 million each plex. Is this fair? no cuz pirates dont have any consqeuences. Its basically CCP-endorsed isk buying. So, can we get rid of the plex system please? It would help balance the game and make it fair.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2010.04.11 16:47:00 - [2] Remove plex and wave bye to a large portion of the playerbase... Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Leena Serevi Minmatar Lost Droids Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.11 16:50:00 - [3] Good lord no!! I'd have to start paying real cash to play the game if they did that!
Eric Policky	Posted - 2010.04.11 16:52:00 - [4] How is it unfair? Go buy a plex. Sell it for isk. You are now on equal footing with the pirates. Plex are available to everyone, not just pirates.
masternerdguy Gallente Caldari Naval Reserve	Posted - 2010.04.11 16:53:00 - [5] Originally by: Eric Policky How is it unfair? Go buy a plex. Sell it for isk. You are now on equal footing with the pirates. Plex are available to everyone, not just pirates. not everyone has the money
Bongo Debbie Minmatar Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.11 16:57:00 - [6] Those moles need to hurry up and do their work. ----
Eric Policky	Posted - 2010.04.11 16:57:00 - [7] Originally by: masternerdguy not everyone has the money "Then I find out that they can buy plexes for like only 15 bucks each" This statement implies OP considers $15 to be a rather trivial amount, and thus can afford it. So while "not everyone has the money" may be true, OP implied that it does not apply to him.
Phosphorus Palladium	Posted - 2010.04.11 16:58:00 - [8] 400 million for a plex? I have never bought for above 270 mil.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.11 17:03:00 - [9] GTCs/Plexs was one of the smartest things CCP has ever done. It killed off RMT almost completely (yes there's still some, but compared to other MMOs it's practically nonexistant) and allowed for ppl to play without paying. - Malyutka (The Virus) -

CCP Shadow C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.11 18:25:00 - [10] Originally by: Bongo Debbie Those moles need to hurry up and do their work. For context.

masternerdguy Gallente Caldari Naval Reserve	Posted - 2010.04.11 18:47:00 - [11] Originally by: CCP Shadow Originally by: Bongo Debbie Those moles need to hurry up and do their work. For context. the cool thing bout shadow is his sense of humor
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2010.04.11 19:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Chribba Remove plex and wave bye to a large portion of the playerbase... If Chribba doesn't like it, you don't have a small snowball's chance in the deepest darkest depths of hell of getting it changed.
Cat o'Ninetails Caldari Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2010.04.11 19:10:00 - [13] hi cat here i agree that pirates have it too easy and can just mercilessly gank people but personally i think plexes could be a way to redeem pirates and feature as a minor point in my pirate rehabillitation programme plexes give pirates an opportunity to defeat the base of some computer pirates and then that means they get sec increase so it is making them on the way to recovery the only way for pirates to be not pirates any more is to shoot computer enemies so i think if you removed them it would be harder for pirates to come to the good side lol xx ♥ VOTE CAT ♥
Cyhawk	Posted - 2010.04.11 19:12:00 - [14] Its easy. Most pirates have NPC corped alts that make them isk, or live in nullsec, where sec status doesnt matter. Your assessment of the issue is flawed grasshopper.
Kale Kold Caldari Broken Skull	Posted - 2010.04.11 19:13:00 - [15] Originally by: happygoat Ok so i see all these dudes in lo sec with -10 sec status camping a station and I wonder how anyone can possibly make isk outside of empire to support factions battleships. Then I find out that they can buy plexes for like only 15 bucks each or something and get 400 million each plex. Is this fair? no cuz pirates dont have any consqeuences. Pirates do not have it too easy, in fact being a -10 pirate is like playing EVE on hard mode! Which is saying something. When i used to pirate in lowsec, we were completely self sufficient on piracy alone and didn't need to buy PLEX for isk etc. Don't assume that pirates sporting fancy ships are buying ISK, they are just probably good at pirating! Service Record \| Battle Record
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.11 19:18:00 - [16] Originally by: happygoat Is this fair? no cuz pirates dont have any consqeuences. What does this have to do with piracy? The ability to use PLEXes is not in any way tied to your chosen profession. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Spurty Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.04.11 19:37:00 - [17] Usually around this time of the year I need to lay stuff on my lawn to make the grass taste bad to moles( very cute when you actually see one mind you). This post however has forced me to leave tea, crumpets and a map to the op (in game) so that they may do baby Jesus 's bidding without getting lost. Originally by: Hurley I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
Arec Bardwin	Posted - 2010.04.11 20:00:00 - [18] Originally by: CCP Shadow Originally by: Bongo Debbie Those moles need to hurry up and do their work. For context. Thanks. At least something in this thread worth a chuckle now
Sith LordX	Posted - 2010.04.12 07:12:00 - [19] Risk vs reward. They have it harder then you think, unless they market trade. Other pirates or anti-pirates can scan down their plex and kill them too. Lowsec is free for all like 0.0. If you can't handle getting killed in lowsec 0.0 then simply stay in highsec and don't go into lowsec. Do you think a -10.0 pirate should be limited to their noob ships, just like you were reduced to when you jumped your shinny new BS into lowsec? Silly little carebear troll, low-sec isn't for noobs like you. Its called pirate faction missions, thats where they can get pirate faction battleships. The life of crime is good. 0.0 Is even better. But Lowsec is just more fun. Cus its filled with people like you who cry about it. Evil for the win! Pirates don't have access to highsec. But they can get shipments to lowsec with alts. Smart pirates have alts you know who market trade and can bring new ships to them. Pirates also ransom people like you to get all their money. Or they make a living off poping people like you who come into their space. Because from their point of view your evil and they are protecting their space. Its not yours, you where not their 1st. You have no business there. This is why you get blown up and attacked. This is the risk you take going into lowsec 0.0 so get over it. Pirates die all the time. Much more then you do in your high sec haven. Even highsec isn't safe. Go back to hello kitty online or WOW if you can't take the harsh reality of eve is unforgiving and when you lose something. Its forever. Not like WOW where you have nothing to lose. Eve is a universe where everything can be lost just like that. If your not smart that is. Learn to play unfairly. In real life, real life isn't fair. Same with eve. Eve is a unfair universe because its a sandbox filled with blobs of people who want to kill your ship and pod. When you enter eve its not filled with flowers and rainbows like wow is. Eve is filled with death and anger. Your sipose to be ****ed off when you 1st log in. And you want to blow peoples ships up. Feel the emo rage! Now go forth and play hello kitty online if you can't take eve. Only real men play eve.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.04.12 10:05:00 - [20] Originally by: masternerdguy Originally by: Eric Policky How is it unfair? Go buy a plex. Sell it for isk. You are now on equal footing with the pirates. Plex are available to everyone, not just pirates. not everyone has the money They get to play for free.
Rivur'Tam	Posted - 2010.04.12 11:19:00 - [21] Plex is fantasic idea i get to have 4 accts that would cost me 600 quid a year for nothing because people use there credit cards to buy pretend money. tbh i think it sad that they can't manage to play the game well engough to get there faction ships and fittings too. thats 600 quid i can spend on ***s/beer/petrol/drugs But its awesome when u pop there nigtmare with pith a mods and think nice i just cost him 150 quid lol ccp = win ... my vid watch now
Major PewPew The Dark Horses WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.04.12 11:20:00 - [22] Originally by: happygoat Ok so i see all these dudes in lo sec with -10 sec status camping a station and I wonder how anyone can possibly make isk outside of empire to support factions battleships. Then I find out that they can buy plexes for like only 15 bucks each or something and get 400 million each plex. Is this fair? no cuz pirates dont have any consqeuences. Its basically CCP-endorsed isk buying. So, can we get rid of the plex system please? It would help balance the game and make it fair. poor troll -10/10
Schani Kratnorr x13 IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.12 11:45:00 - [23] Originally by: happygoat Ok so i see all these dudes in lo sec with -10 sec status camping a station and I wonder how anyone can possibly make isk outside of empire to support factions battleships. I can help you there. First you get a battleship. Once you have one, you go into 0.0 and start moving through asteroid belts looking for NPCs to shoot (bounties.) If anyone turns up, warp off, cloak, wait. Originally by: happygoat Then I find out that they can buy plexes for like only 15 bucks each or something and get 400 million each plex. One 60-day game-time-code is 34.99 USD, not, as you claim, fifteen bucks for one plex. One 30-day-plex varies with supply and demand. I recently purchased one at 350 million ISK. So 17.5 USD buys me 350 Million ISK (prices are going up at the moment, so you might hit 400 million per plex in around two weeks.) Originally by: happygoat Is this fair? no cuz pirates dont have any consqeuences. Its basically CCP-endorsed isk buying. Yes you are correct. CCP decided to provide a "legal" way for players to purchase ISK from eathother. I think they designed it so they could benefit from the trade as well as control the prices, in order to make organized isk-selling more difficult and easier to track. You claim this practice is unfair because pirates have no consequences. That is a very ill defined argument. First off, the term unfair assumes knowledge of an opposite state of things that can be considered fair. You failed to define in which context you think things are unfair. You also claim that pirates have no consequences. I point out that you yourself mention they are -10.0 and therefore cannot go into systems with a security rating of 5.0 or greater. That is at least one in game consequence with tangible penalties. So if we accept that the only real penalty is 1 negative security status, and that this is a direct result of shooting a ship (a by product of piracy,) then we must reject your claim, that there are no consequences for pirate activities. Originally by: happygoat So, can we get rid of the plex system please? It would help balance the game and make it fair. No, we cannot get rid of a system based on a forum post with no valid argument attached. You also fail to point out why removing the ability to "buy ISK legally" would result in a fair and balanced game. I could argue that allowing new players to buy ISK to get started is in fact a benefit to the game and (in combination with character trading,) it levels the playing field for new players.
Clb The Intersect	Posted - 2010.04.12 11:53:00 - [24] Originally by: CCP Shadow For context. CCP Shadow, best Shadow. ---
Super Whopper I can Has Cheeseburger	Posted - 2010.04.12 12:45:00 - [25] Originally by: CCP Shadow Originally by: Bongo Debbie Those moles need to hurry up and do their work. For context. LOL
Kale Kold Caldari Broken Skull	Posted - 2010.04.12 13:56:00 - [26] To add a little more context on how pirates can afford such extravagant ships etc. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1298244 You will see lots of examples of how some carebears practically want us to take their stuff!!! Service Record \| Battle Record
Bal'Ayle	Posted - 2010.04.12 14:16:00 - [27] its really not that hard to earn enough ISK to keep playing. piracy is expensive, you don't always win and using PLEX to get isk is an expensive way to do it, 400m is not right, the highest i see them go for rarely caps 300m, the average price in a tradehub is 275m at the moment, as for making money outside of empire, there are TONNS of places you an do this in systems with noone in local 22/7 - and not being funny but the bounty's aren't that much higher then level 4 missions. a standard BS will set you back 75m or so, with fits dragging it up to like 100m ish, (for the poorly educated buyer) and then with ensurance, you looking at a nett cost of like 30-50m if you want a faction BS use a WH to bypass the bottleneck systems into low sec, set up a Starbase and get hunting. myself i make my ISK by mining trit and running missions, with tht i can keep one account open for ingame cash while passive playing, in an iSK drive i could keep both up on it, but i like the surplus and we cant ALL pay with ingame cash. getting rid of it is bad news for the server because it just means people will buy ISK from websites, the PLEX card system drove it up 300% so its a brilliant noose on RL money trading. this way at least EVE benefits ^^ plus piracy is fun
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.12 14:20:00 - [28] Originally by: masternerdguy Originally by: Eric Policky How is it unfair? Go buy a plex. Sell it for isk. You are now on equal footing with the pirates. Plex are available to everyone, not just pirates. not everyone has the money so what does that have to do with eveonline besides not a god damned thing? This is clearly a signature.
Ran Khanon Amarr Vengeance Innovations	Posted - 2010.04.12 14:23:00 - [29] Originally by: happygoat Is this fair? no cuz pirates dont have any consqeuences. I believe you mean "conscience". Pirates have no conscience whatsoever. Also they: ò Play station games when attacked and never get killed ò Only play to grief other players ò AFK bot gank ò AFK cloak gate camp ò Fly only overpowered ships ò Engage only with friends nearby ò All have falcon alts ò Never honor ransoms ò Farm bounties ò Post fake kill mails ò Chain belt rats ò Scam people out of isk and hours invested in poems, artwork and songs ò Kill ships like shuttles & Zephyrs even when they pose no threat at all ò Use third party voice comms ò Drink hard liquor such as Mountain Dew or cheap stuff like Cider (they know volume-alcohol-price ratios by heart) ò Play till well after we've gone to bed ò Often have sex in real life CCP NEEDS TO PUT A STOP TO THIS MADNESS! Help us to make parrots game related today!
Bibbleibble	Posted - 2010.04.12 14:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Ran Khanon ò Drink hard liquor such as Mountain Dew or cheap stuff like Cider (they know volume-alcohol-price ratios by heart) ò Play till well after we've gone to bed ò Often have sex in real life

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