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HowNotToBeSeen Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.12 19:12:00 - [1] Edited by: HowNotToBeSeen on 12/04/2010 19:16:34 Looking at viable fits for the hookbill I found one thing they all lacked was versatility. standard missiles or rockets they all were a one trick pony. so I came up with this [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Hookbill] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner Coreli C-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Medium Shield Extender II Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Cap stable with everything running (MWD or AB) AB speed: 1300 MWD speed: 3200 EHP lowest resist: 4900 (kin) EHP highest resist: 5500 (exp) roughly 95 DPS at around 10km EXTREMELY tight fit, I tryed for ages to drop fittings to meta 4 and use ACRs to get a DCU II on but it just wont work with the duel prop and MSE. thoughts?
ExplicitViolence	Posted - 2010.04.12 19:14:00 - [2] You Sir have offended my honor. I challenge the to a dual.
Proxyyyy Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.12 19:44:00 - [3] So basicaly you took my fit, droped a damage control and a overdive. Switched Them for 2 micro Aux power cores and switched the shield booster for a Mse. Removed a damage rig and put all resist rigs. Kool stuff! You gained 800 ehp by doing so, lost a speed advantage against many frigs, lost much needed dps, and prolly cost more. (Im kinda mad about something else so if the above comes off as rude you know why) Ive tried to put a mse on this ship while not gimping it in other area's with the duel prop, and it just doesnt work (Well without faction pimping it that is). Nice try though. You will be able to kill most t1 frigs with it still and prolly all interceptors. Not Sure you'll be able to break a af before you break, but then again you can just gtfo!
HowNotToBeSeen Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.12 20:28:00 - [4] Originally by: Proxyyyy So basicaly you took my fit, droped a damage control and a overdive. Switched Them for 2 micro Aux power cores and switched the shield booster for a Mse. Removed a damage rig and put all resist rigs. Kool stuff! You gained 800 ehp by doing so, lost a speed advantage against many frigs, lost much needed dps, and prolly cost more. (Im kinda mad about something else so if the above comes off as rude you know why) Ive tried to put a mse on this ship while not gimping it in other area's with the duel prop, and it just doesnt work (Well without faction pimping it that is). Nice try though. You will be able to kill most t1 frigs with it still and prolly all interceptors. Not Sure you'll be able to break a af before you break, but then again you can just gtfo! Assuming a t2 small shield booster (because good lord the deadspace ones can be expensive) the setup doesn't have enough cap or rep to have any real sustained tank over the MSE fit. the recharge rate gives roughly the same amount of tank as pulsing the booster.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.12 20:32:00 - [5] The hookbill would be okish if ccp ever fixed roflkets. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
Ravenesa The Bastards The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.12 20:34:00 - [6] Originally by: HowNotToBeSeen Originally by: Proxyyyy So basicaly you took my fit, droped a damage control and a overdive. Switched Them for 2 micro Aux power cores and switched the shield booster for a Mse. Removed a damage rig and put all resist rigs. Kool stuff! You gained 800 ehp by doing so, lost a speed advantage against many frigs, lost much needed dps, and prolly cost more. (Im kinda mad about something else so if the above comes off as rude you know why) Ive tried to put a mse on this ship while not gimping it in other area's with the duel prop, and it just doesnt work (Well without faction pimping it that is). Nice try though. You will be able to kill most t1 frigs with it still and prolly all interceptors. Not Sure you'll be able to break a af before you break, but then again you can just gtfo! Assuming a t2 small shield booster (because good lord the deadspace ones can be expensive) the setup doesn't have enough cap or rep to have any real sustained tank over the MSE fit. the recharge rate gives roughly the same amount of tank as pulsing the booster. Expect the fact that the booster doesn't have to run all the time and you get the max boost from a booster no matter what level your shields are at. Once a buff shield tank breaks (And it is really low into shield) then you die very quickly.
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.04.12 20:50:00 - [7] [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Caldari Navy Hookbill] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Medium Shield Extender II 1MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I 7k buffer, lol 94 kin dps with roflkets, 1250/3400 m/s.
Skippermonkey Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.13 14:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Caldari Navy Hookbill] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Medium Shield Extender II 1MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I 7k buffer, lol 94 kin dps with roflkets, 1250/3400 m/s. two afterburners, what a novel idea
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.04.13 14:48:00 - [9] Originally by: Skippermonkey Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Caldari Navy Hookbill] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Medium Shield Extender II 1MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I 7k buffer, lol 94 kin dps with roflkets, 1250/3400 m/s. two afterburners, what a novel idea troll genius at work, Catalyzed is a frig mwd.
Boss Lemming Gallente BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION. HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.04.13 15:02:00 - [10] Originally by: Skippermonkey Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Caldari Navy Hookbill] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Medium Shield Extender II 1MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I 7k buffer, lol 94 kin dps with roflkets, 1250/3400 m/s. two afterburners, what a novel idea why don't you actually log into the game, eh bud? Originally by: Alchemist's Alt I stopped mining because you mean pirates kept blowing me up.[...] now I am doing all the blowing up. Shadow

Skippermonkey Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.13 18:01:00 - [11] Oh Google, that's another fine mess you've got us into.
Meeko Atari	Posted - 2010.04.14 21:23:00 - [12] Originally by: HowNotToBeSeen Edited by: HowNotToBeSeen on 12/04/2010 19:16:34 Looking at viable fits for the hookbill I found one thing they all lacked was versatility. standard missiles or rockets they all were a one trick pony. so I came up with this [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Hookbill] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner Coreli C-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Medium Shield Extender II Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Cap stable with everything running (MWD or AB) AB speed: 1300 MWD speed: 3200 EHP lowest resist: 4900 (kin) EHP highest resist: 5500 (exp) roughly 95 DPS at around 10km EXTREMELY tight fit, I tryed for ages to drop fittings to meta 4 and use ACRs to get a DCU II on but it just wont work with the duel prop and MSE. thoughts? I got a DCU2 on there for ya! but you need an implant [Caldari Navy Hookbill, Hookbill ] Damage Control II Micro B88 Core Augmentation <--and that aint cheap! Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Stasis Webifier II Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I


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