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MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.19 22:37:00 - [1] Originally by: ewwlooki rawr gets the cookie... kbs dont lie, anyone who has hunted macros knows how hard it is to catch one, let alone 3 or 50! in a rapid succession. the evidence is there, so the question is does ccp even care so long as it stays in the hands of only a few people using it to kill macroers who atm are a far greater problem than the exploit. So we just have to trust they only use their exploit for good Scout's honor is worth so much in Eve. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.19 22:53:00 - [2] So if what he does is not considered an exploit by CCP would anyone mind posting exactly it is what he does or link to a page in English (if at all possible)? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.19 23:03:00 - [3] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 19/04/2010 23:03:58 Originally by: Zarstrax Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 So if what he does is not considered an exploit by CCP would anyone mind posting exactly it is what he does or link to a page in English (if at all possible)? He won't say. I guess it's a valuable secret. Well, if it's not an exploit it sounds like a helluva "technique" . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.20 02:32:00 - [4] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 20/04/2010 02:36:26 Originally by: Grath Telkin All it would really take is one macro ratter burning his account to prove he's cheating. You guys are really damn bad at this. Any whiney russians stepping forward to take the bullet for their comrades? So this 'technique' explicitly and only affects macro accounts (meaning there is no possible way it can work against someone at his PC)? Or is "macro this/that" just the excuse to justify the use of this technique? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.20 10:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Grath Telkin What are you talking about? I'm asking a simple question: Does this only affect cheaters or not? Can this be used on someone that is NOT a macro? It's a simple yes or no question. Quote: Let me explain: Nobody cares. Some people DO care. Not everyone is a macro, you know. It just sounds to me like you're justifying the validity of this technique "because of macros". I don't use macros and would like to know if this in any way whatsoever would affect a player AT THE KEYBOARD. I asked the quesiton and you evaded it. Why? Quote: The entirety of the russian community is pretty much seen as Macros, so your complaints fall on deaf ears (this will offend some people, but sometimes, the truth is offensive). Not everybody is Russian. Not everybody is a macro. But nice generalizations there . Quote: You abuse a macro, to keep your ship safe, in essence, playing in god mode, with log offs, cloaks, and any other thing you can possibly use to NEVER EVER GET KILLED. I really don't know why it is so difficult for you to understand NOT EVERYONE IS USING MACROS! I can't simply make it any clearer to you. Why are you insisting anyone ratting at a belt must be a macro and thus deserves to have this technique used on them? Quote: Somebody, found a way around your system. [sigh] MY SYSTEM? Are you on drugs? Quote: Actually, its more than just one person who knows how to beat it, but you'll find that out over the next few weeks as your macro accounts die with more and more frequency. My macro accounts? You keep accusing everyone questioning the use of this technique as "macros"? Again, does this ONLY affect macro accounts? Quote: We complained, and filed those complaints with CCP. They did nothing, as your macros are easily able evade CCP's leaky logs that always "show nothing". Yes, my macros . Quote: Do you really think, after years of you getting away with basically playing immune to the rules the rest of the games legal players had to face, that ANYBODY gives a damn if your getting farmed like the rats in your belts? Yes, my macros. Why do you insist I'm using macros and therefore I deserve to have this technique used on me? Never encountered this monkey guy, never had this technique done on me. However, given that the technique seems a little strange I'd like to know if it would affect me (A PLAYER AT THE KEYBOARD NOT USING ANY MACROS). Quote: Cry more, over the next few weeks, I'd expect to see your systems filling with people using the same technique. I hope you enjoy it. Not crying. Questioning the validity of a technique that seems a little 'out of place'. Being able to delay the appearance in local seems a little strange, as to my knowledge there are no mechanics in place that allow for such a technique to be used other than in WH space. I'm curious as to why you keep emphasizing that the "technique" is justified in being used because of macros. And I'm even more curious as to why you haven't been upfront on whether this technique explicitly affects macro accounts (ie, doesn't affect players at the keyboard). Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.20 11:03:00 - [6] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 20/04/2010 11:06:52 Originally by: Dodgy Past Simple comment.... if it's such a big deal and people have been seeing this happen why have their been no links to pictures. Your crusade against anyone that attacks carebears is getting rather pathetic., and you seem to be over identifying with the victims. I would once again suggest that this is more a case of clever scouting followed by a killing rampage using the information that has been gathered, and the likelihood that many of the victims are using macros so don't know exactly what happened. I assume you actually have yet to be a victim since you'd never dare set move away from the relative safety of hi sec. Are we supposed to trust that this "technique" will never be used on a non-cheating player? . Do we just take Pandemic Legion's word that, if they indeed are using an exploit, it will only be used on other cheaters? And if indeed they've found an exploit, that they get to decide who is macroing and who isn't? And thus, they can justly decide who this "technique" is used on? Really? Scout's honor? . Originally by: Taua Roqa Edited by: Taua Roqa on 20/04/2010 10:59:18 it's just a simple code injection @ the network level between client and server, as the chat channels are hosted by a server not connected to the system node shards(as stated by GMs), you can prevent yourself from showing up in local by brownboxing the network stack. Stops you appearing in all other channels too, unfortunately, but no much of a problem. edit: that people think this is a joke is p funny, it's only been leaked now cos a macro that can vaguely speak english has blabbed on the forums. I'm sorry but this sounds like an exploit/hack . Can anyone clarify why this would not be considered cheating? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.20 12:56:00 - [7] Originally by: Razor Jaxx ITT, irony, karma & poetic justice. I agree that CCP must end this madness. I vote that we kill local chat in 0.0 so that we can all be Monkeyspheres \o/. Local chat should not be a source of intel, much less one that can be used for bot automation like warp & cloak or logoffski - which the botters actually admit to in this thread. 0.0 immunity = wrong. I just wish it didn't take Monkeysphere's crazy ingenuity, skills & efforts to pull it off ; what he does should be the standard rule in 0.0. If he's somehow masking his presence from local through some "ingenuous" and "skillful" technique then that is all gravy, and good for him. But if he's indeed using an exploit, to somehow justify it because you have a certain opinion on how local should be, is just dead wrong. If you don't like how local chat is now, then petition to have it changed. Don't justify the use of an exploit because you don't like how the game devs have set up local. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.20 13:08:00 - [8] Originally by: Punkt Landung If this is just player initiative - it's great. If it's CCP CIA style covertly supported player initiative - it's great. Macros and RMT suck - I've long been a believer that the Eve player base are the best people to deal with the macro contingent, I hope CCP realise this too and are helping to provide players with the tools to screw these people over. I've met plenty of Russians and they are lovely people, brave, kind hearted, very funny and clever. Clever enough to work out that running macros 24hrs a day makes more sense than toiling on a building site or driving a train. If this was profitable for UK and US players then I'm sure you'd see the same. But the fact is that it kills the game so power to monkeyshere and his friends for trying to wipe to out. And if it's being used on non-macro players? Is it still great? Do we just turn a blind eye and let a few players play god-mode and decide who deserves to be exploited on and who doesn't? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.20 23:42:00 - [9] Originally by: romek mablung Im currently in process of reading 50+ pages on russian forums on subject,and when,yes,some pilots there speaking were obviously macroing (mining-hunting),some were,by their claims,of cource,single account- single pilots,who got killed ratting in 0.0 belts.Monkey just went careless,and attacked some real players,or some,actually making attention,while belt ratting.My 5 cents.and as empire carebear,i could care less,but still,its clearly I-Win button abusing case.And,as now,as djinn is out of its can....i hope,CCP will look of it.Russians had thoughts,that it might need to rewrote client entitrely,as seems some chat related-local related things are done clientside (hence packet sniffing and delaying -modifying-copy-pasteing wh chat packets-copy-pasteing after gate jumping cloak packets....something in line).If eve clients controls those things-its bad! If this ** is true and the screenshots are real, these PL dudes need to be perma-banned just like the macro users themselves. Period. Originally by:** Vaerah Vahrokha For once, a bug is a good thing, macros ships should all asplode and be banned. Yes, of course. Because as long as we claim we're ridding the game of macroers we should all be allowed to use exploits . 1. Find/reproduce exploit 2. Play in God-mode 3. Kill a few macros 4. Claim your exploit is "good exploit" 5. Profit If this dude is using exploit he is JUST AS BAD as the macroers themselves. And if that is the case then you need to stop justifying your cheats like they're holier than theirs, ESPECIALLY if he's killing actual players (non-macroers). And it isn't your place to decide who is macroing and who isn't. That's just your justification for using your cheat. Unless you know something we don't, that is. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.21 00:15:00 - [10] Grath Telkin, The 'technique' being used is coming to light. And it smells like an exploit. So the proof is there. But it's funny how now your tone has changed from "prove there's an exploit" to "now prove monkey is using this exploit". Everything's slowly adding up, and it seems like your boy monkey is indeed up to no good. Where there's smoke there's probably fire. There's a lot of things that aren't adding up and it's funny watching you try and explain everything away with luck, skills, "because of macros", "because you suck", etc. Give it time. Things will come to light soon enough. And I'm sure you're interested that the truth be known . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.21 02:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Boomershoot This Thread is by far the most embarassing proof of how many russians abuse macro programs. Confirming that if you're against the use of exploits you are both: 1) a Russian 2) a macro abuser Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.21 03:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Loving this thread, so many rabbits, looking down holes, none of them saw the shotgun. MatrixSkye do you remember why you are called MatrixSkye 2. I do. Do you really? I biomassed Mk1 only to then realize I'd like to keep him around. Hence, Mk2. Don't remember telling anyone though. But there you have it. Now if only Pandemic Legion was as forthcoming :) But I suppose that would be too much to ask for, so carry on with the obvious thread derailment. Your cheat is out in the open now. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.21 10:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Zeba Don't blame PL if CCP is too slow to fix obvious gameplay exploit issues that PL was kind enough to figure out and 'report' on. Oh yeah. It's true. Pandemic Legion has been very forthcoming and honest in this thread. No attempt at derailing or covering their tracks. They've been totally forthcoming. Kudos to PL for bringing this to CCP's attention and all. I mean, isn't it obvious? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.21 16:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Stygian Knight Originally by: ESDEF This really exploit... Try to ban! Yeah ban him!!! How can he be so rude and kill our isk farmers :( He's not just killing isk farmers. He's killing regular (at the keyboard) players. But it's really no surprise to see Pandemic Legion in 'damage control' mode. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.21 16:57:00 - [15] Originally by: species2143 My biggest fear was that the few guys that actually knew about this exploit before it became public, would have been smart and kept a low profile effectively abusing it for years undetected. Therefore all you guys calling out for monkey to be banned should stop and think for just one moment (remember the moon-mining scandal?) and actually be greatful. Pandemic Legion didn't just come out and admitted they were using this exploit. This whole thread has been them misdirecting and derailing from the issue. I'm pretty sure they'd stay quiet for as long as they could, though the temptation of using it on real players would have been too much even for them, as is evident from the OP. And eventually that's what outted the exploit. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.21 22:44:00 - [16] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Kitimortoa LOL Like someone held a gun to his head and screamed at him "MUST EXPLOIT NAO!" Why dont we ask that about the people who are cheating in the first place too? WTF are you rambling? Seriously. ALL EXPLOITS ARE BAD. Can you get that through your head? Stop defending PL's use of exploits while condemning the rest. Makes you look like a hypocritical idiot. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.21 23:31:00 - [17] Originally by: Salastil Don't act high and mighty babbling about some form of justice on him or any PL member being banned. We're just going the route that CCP refuses to go. We're going to fix the blight in 0.0 space with or without their assistance. We've petitioned and done everything within mechanics we could possibly do to stymie this problem, we've taken our own skill which is superior to CCP's own developers and come up with solutions to both the lag, fps and botting problem with our custom UI. Wow! Pandemic Legion just keeps sinking to new lows. Go ahead and justify your cheating however you want. I'll give you credit for at least moving from damage control (somewhat) to "well, we did cuz we just had to". Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.22 00:13:00 - [18] Originally by: karttoon Obvious troll. I'd start packing if I were you. Your days are numbered. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.22 01:45:00 - [19] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 22/04/2010 01:48:55 Originally by: WormSwarm There is a 2nd story to tell here How many people that are apart of this witch hunt, are also apart of the isk sellers problem in Eve. You are dealing with people that want to protect their business, and they will do anything to have perfectly running Macros. Proof on how they will even perform exploits ingame to try and 'prove' that a player might be using a specific technique to catch their macro programs. Proof that you can trick the client, only shows that there is a bug (if the experiment can be repeated by other parties also). But how does that tie up a player to that? Is there any proof at all by anyone that the player that has been mentioned here actually did this? Any at all? Clearly after reading/skipping through alot of the 'content' in these 25/26. The thing is PL themselves can admit to cheating (which by the way, some already have) and there will still be those that hold them in such high regards that they won't believe. Monkeysphere himself can admit to it. Or hell, someone can post a video of him doing it and it still won't matter. You'll claim it's fake, doctored, or whatever. And when finally no one's buying the damage control stories anymore, a switch in strategy will be made to "well, can you blame us for cheating?", "we had to do it, we had no choice", and "we're the victims in all this". Point is, for some, it doesn't matter that they cheat. There will always be that attitude from some of you "they're cool and badass and good for them for doing it HAHA!1". Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.22 11:19:00 - [20] Originally by: WormSwarm Alot of Fox News viewers in this thread eh If you're going to put a real life spin into the situation, then guess who is the Fox news viewer? . You don't believe in global warming because there isn't enough proof. You don't believe the economy is in shambles, not enough proof. If you do believe, you blame the wrong guy because the guy before was, well, just swell and a helluva guy. So yeah, keep it up with the Fox news comments, son. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.22 12:03:00 - [21] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 22/04/2010 12:05:44 Originally by: Rick Rothsar This just in: Aluminum market surges as tinfoil hattery reaches new high itt You know what I find amusing? That the ones knocking down the proofs are the same ones accusing Russians of being in-game cheaters. In other words, to prove that Pandemic Legion is cheating will require proof without an ounce of doubt to convince you. On the other hand, you spout that Russians are cheaters and heavy users of macros. Can you prove this without an ounce of doubt that Russians are using macros in Tranq? Not that I don't believe that SOME Russians ARE using macros. But I think it's funny how the ones refusing to accept the proof that PL is cheating are quite quick in accusing all Russians of cheating. Where's the infallible proof that all Russians are cheating so we can start picking them off with "that's doctored" and "meh, that doesn't prove anything" . Or is no proof needed to accuse all Russians of cheating? I say BAN ALL MACROERS - all Russians cheating AND all Pandemic Legion cheaters. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.22 12:17:00 - [22] Originally by: Certero Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 I say BAN ALL MACROERS - all Russians cheating AND all Pandemic Legion cheaters. I have an idea! No need to waste time explaing that there are russians who don't use exploits (bots, macros). Let's say "Yes! We are cheaters! But we a bored of our own cheating and want to make EVE better! We are trying to help CCP to fix all bugs that make possible to cheat in best game ever! And we think that Monkey use cheats too bcos we know how it looks like! Let's remove cheaters from this game together!" And it doesn't matter that we aren't cheaters. Trolls will be happy. There will be less flood here. And maybe problem will be solved instead of pages-of-"russians=cheaters"-jokes... I'm not saying ban all Russians. I'm saying ban those that cheat. I know that not all Russians are cheaters. I'm merely pointing out that the idiots requesting proof without a shred of doubt are the ones accusing all Russians of cheating. But meh, it's just them trying to derail and justify their cheating. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:01:00 - [23] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha You are NOT supposed to rely on local chat to flee like a chicken. You ARE supposed to use the scanner OR to have friends camping the system entrance(s) OR to fight, like you actually played a PvP game. Who the ** are you to tell me I'm not supposed to use local? Seriously, stop spouting ** like you're in charge, bro. If you don't like local PETITION TO HAVE IT REMOVED. STOP excusing the use of exploits because you think we shouldn't be using local. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:46:00 - [24] Originally by: Admiral RAGE i'm going to be so so so so happy when ccp says "bug fixed" and spherical monkey is banned Fixed. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:20:00 - [25] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 22/04/2010 17:26:12 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: After all I've witnessed, I don't know what to say What you have to say is that they proved (to you) that the exploit is possible and that it might be what Monkey uses. Now, only CCP can give their acknowledgement of the issue and to fix it. Only CCP can evaluate and verify wether Monkey is indeed using it or not and then act accordingly. Heh, I actually agree with you on this. first time I suppose. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.23 01:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Firkragg Seriously will someone post a video of monkeysphere actually doing this or some other proof. Just because there is an exploit doesnt mean he has used it. Dear Pandemic Legion, I'm sure at this point CCP is investigating and will either be banning Mr. Monkeysphere or will be acquitting him, along with all the Pandemic Legion players that cheated. At this point there really is nothing for anyone of us to prove to you. His KB alone is highly suspect and deserves investigating. But nothing short of him confessing while doing it will convince you, so really, why ask us for proof? :) Don't worry, CCP is looking into it now, and you should really be asking CCP to prove to you that your good 'ol monkey isn't cheating, not us :). Good luck and God's Speed to you all (I think you will need it), MSII Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.23 02:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Lady Spank Hi, please post your feelings on this in my important petition thread. If you could also support my proposal that would be appreciated. Oh no worries. I'm sure the bans will be coming down soon. Huhuhu reproduced the exploit and immediately reported it. PL and friend, on the other hand... Well, let's just hope they're as clean as they've been claiming to be all along (except for a few PL that have come forth already). Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.23 17:03:00 - [28] Originally by: Raivi Originally by: Bendit Originally by: Raivi Damage control overload Unsubstantiated rage from an obvious macroer. U mad? Raivi, he wasn't "raging". He was giving his own testimonial, and quite eloquently as well. And your respons is he's a macroer? . You've done nothing but cover for the cheaters from your alliance. CCP is on it now. So save your insults and damage control for when your buddies get banned. There's nothing for us to prove to you. Keep trolling though. Pandemic Legion has so far done a great job at that. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.23 18:57:00 - [29] Originally by: Lady Karma I am glad I live in a country where we require something called proof before we pass sentence. Originally by: Lady Karma This angry mob of farmers are hoping to convince I take it you're not one of those that needs proof before passing judgement. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.23 19:06:00 - [30] Originally by: Lady Karma Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 I take it you're not one of those that needs proof before passing judgement. Farmers are people that farm rats, I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that Monkey targets them. Maybe you read into my statement the word "macro" Keep your jump to conclusion mat to yourself thank you. OIC. By farmer you meant anyone that kills a rat. So, it was just you referring to EVERYONE. Gotcha . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.23 19:30:00 - [31] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 23/04/2010 19:31:29 Originally by: Raivi Bot farmers complain on eve-ru and then their friends complain here. It's a public forum, so you're not fooling anybody. Originally by: Raivi It's a public forum, so you're not fooling anybody. Originally by: Raivi you're not fooling anybody. It's as if at some subconscious level Pandemic is talking to itself. Spooky stuff . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.23 22:36:00 - [32] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia EXCEPT, now it appears that the exploit is only possible when the victim himself is using an exploit making the very knowledge of which indicative of guilt making PL the guilty party! Except that it seems to affect players AT THE KEYBOARD as well. I'd take Pandemic Legion's claims that it's only possible on macros with a grain of salt. The fact they've spent much effort trying to derail this thread should be enough to question their sincerity on the issue. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:48:00 - [33] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha How can them be "REGULAR" players if they don't do the most basic 101 of using a directional scanner? And yet use ships that have NO chance to escape, that is ships where using the directional scanner is vital? Are you really this dense? Is this how YOU tell whether someone is at the keyboard versus botting? No wonder you're accusing all against this exploit "botters" . But most likely you're just trolling. Funny thing is you consider T3s cheating, but an actual cheat using exploits by Pandemic Legion, to you, well, ratters deserve to be cheated on if they're not paying attention to local. If not paying attention to local is so critical to survival then why would you need a cheat to kill a player at the keyboard? . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:54:00 - [34] Originally by: Lady Karma Please post those facts, I would like to see any exploiter removed from the game. Once CCP has layeth down the smackbans, you'll be in the Assembly Hall begging CCP to unban Pandemic Legion cheaters. Mark my words. I think you've already proven your loyalties unquestionably lie with Pandemic Legion, for whatever reasons. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:04:00 - [35] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 24/04/2010 07:05:46 Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Lady Karma Please post those facts, I would like to see any exploiter removed from the game. Once CCP has layeth down the smackbans, you'll be in the Assembly Hall begging CCP to unban Pandemic Legion cheaters. Mark my words. I think you've already proven your loyalties unquestionably lie with Pandemic Legion, for whatever reasons. [lamegreen]> implying all PL Characters are cheaters[/lamegreen] I highlighted the part you failed to understand. Oh, and: Originally by: Boomershoot CTRL+QQ Is an exploit too based on how the mechanics work and on your view on the subject. But CCP doesn't seem as much as interested in it. The local has to go, what do you say MatrixSkye? And that justifies the use of another exploit? I think local should stay. I also think infnipoint HICs are overpowered, but you know what I am NOT doing? Creating an exploit to counter them and blaming CCP's "inability" to fix the things that I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE. That's not how things work. Does this compute? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:14:00 - [36] Originally by: Boomershoot Ctrl+QQ can escape HIC's Infinipoint. Your point on how this is not an exploit, then? With local gone you solve a great chunk of bot problems, and it will also fix the current "Oh Exploitable" Situation. How is that not a Win/Win? BECAUSE it affects players that are NOT cheating as well. How are non-cheaters supposed to get around an exploit that makes the predator dissappear from local in normal space? AND BAN ALL EXPLOITERS... ALL OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:22:00 - [37] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Boomershoot Ctrl+QQ can escape HIC's Infinipoint. Your point on how this is not an exploit, then? With local gone you solve a great chunk of bot problems, and it will also fix the current "Oh Exploitable" Situation. How is that not a Win/Win? BECAUSE it affects players that are NOT cheating as well. How are non-cheaters supposed to get around an exploit that makes the predator dissappear from local in normal space? AND BAN ALL EXPLOITERS... ALL OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. The fix for local problem without the eradication of this intel channel will affect all players, too. And i don't see people ranting of no-local in WH either. Too bad right now the ones with the upper hand are the PL cheaters and anyone else that is sharing this exploit. I'll tell you what, let EVERYONE use this exploit and at least we're now all on even grounds. Stop excusing the use of this exploit like it's the mighty solution to a problem you personally don't like. If you don't like local, then use normal means to get rid of it (petition, garner support, etc). DO NOT create an exploit and justify its use because there's something in-game you personally don't like. If people had your mentality they'd create exploits for everything they didn't like about the game and it'd be perfectly reasonable to do so. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:29:00 - [38] Nice argument there, Boomershot. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 11:09:00 - [39] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 24/04/2010 11:13:25 Originally by: debbie harrio Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha absolute load of tosh because I actually haven't grasped what this is all about but I'll gob off anyway like the idiot that I am. Why would anyone use directional scanner when local is empty you fool. May I suggest you actually read the thread instead of spouting junk. Vaerah's simply trolling. Pay no mind to him. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 12:10:00 - [40] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 24/04/2010 12:16:23 Originally by: Prt Scr I am a known paraniod, but is it possable that 'the monkey' is actualy a ccp fix to the 'bot exploit' and not an actual player, as they never say how an exploit is fixed just that it has been. If all the bots are killed off the owners have less isk to buy gametime with and will actualy have to spend real money to get their eve fix. It was probably designed by the same dev. who had the idea to make eve addictive. I guess it's possible. But he's beginning to kill players at the keyboard (ie not bots). So he seems to be a bit sloppy. Also, that would necessarily implicate a whole alliance, in this case Pandemic Legion, because when **** goes down as it has, it will stain a whole alliance in the process. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 13:02:00 - [41] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 24/04/2010 13:02:35 Originally by: Romale you must have a problem with reading comprehension. i went through the pains of changing the language i use to cover a specific group of russians instead of all russians. The bolsheviks are very much like their ****'s in the way they jumped on monkeysphere because he's not a russian. The entire way the thread has been conducted by the bolsheviks is an absolute testimony to a deep racism that still exists in the world today. I for one will not sit here and cower in refusing to call the kettle black. I think the bolsheviks owe monkeysphere an apology edit: you would think the eve-ru community would speak english better after loseing the coldwar And where's Pandemic Legion's apology for derailing and trolling this thread to hell and back? You insult a certain group of people without providing infallible evidence that they're all cheats, but when it comes to your own alliance cheaters you require a written and signed confession from Monkeydude along with an official video from the Pentagon implicating your member in any wrongdoing because otherwise it's all lies and slander. So yes, you are calling the kettle black. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 13:39:00 - [42] Originally by: Romale dont like it when people play fair? Ironically, this thread is about keeping the play fair . Something that apparently some of your guys just can't do. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 13:47:00 - [43] Originally by: Romale Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Romale dont like it when people play fair? Ironically, this thread is about keeping the play fair . Something that apparently some of your guys just can't do. really? seems to me y'all have this exploit down cold Well, we still do lack the experience in using it, something you guys seem to be on the ball with. But that's neither here nor there. Tell your buddies to start packing and maybe even give their stuffs away to corpies? . Wouldn't want it all to go to waste now, would we. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.25 23:15:00 - [44] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: Homo Erectus WAS THE OTHER CAR SHOWING IN LOCAL OR DID IT APPEAR RIGHT BEFORE THE BOOM Your insensitivity to real life issues is most disturbing, considering the ehonor accompanying your enormous pile of douchebaggery that you refer to as an alliance, I would have expected more when dealing with real life tragedies. Oh wait, you mean this wasn't you trolling? Was this seriuz biznus? Oh and, u mad? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.25 23:46:00 - [45] Originally by: Zeba You know I really really hate to drag this thread back ontopic but does anyone at all have any evidence that monkey is using exploits past the testimony of a guy who herd it from another guy who happened to read it on a fan forum? Now before people get all huffy and stuff I'm not saying he isn't exploiting but simply curious if anyone has managed to catch him in the act? Don't worry. Let CCP put the puzzle together. They will. All the pieces are there. And the evidence you seek, you know, him FRAPSing himself cheating and exploiting, because it's the only evidence that some of you will accept along with a signed confession from him, to my knowledge does not exist. But to anyone with even a little bit of sense of obviousness all these discrepancies lead to something definitely not being right. And PL's claim that he's just using this legit but "supder duper and seekrit technique" to amass all those kills is suspect at best. If this were true PL would have no problems in letting CCP know what this "super seekrit technique" is and just letting this whole issue die. But the fact is that there is smoke and it's coming from Pandemic Legion's house. But again, us having to provide you with proof is not even necessary at this point. You'll have to ask CCP to prove to you that the monkeydude is cheating, not us. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.26 00:31:00 - [46] Originally by: Zeba Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act Yes, a few players have, if they're to be believed. Originally by: Zeba with solid proof to back up the claim or not? Solid proof as in FRAPS? No. But I doubt it will now be possible to FRAPS him as I highly suspect he'll maintain a very low profile for the next few months. I doubt he'll be using his super seekrit technique" any time soon. And I expect his killboard stats to become less bloated with kills too. But, it is up to CCP to share all the findings with us (I doubt it). But I do believe they should be able to determine within reasonable certainty whether this monkey dude is cheating or not. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.26 00:50:00 - [47] Originally by: Lady Aja Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Zeba Now again, has anyone been able to catch monkey in the act Yes, a few players have, if they're to be believed. Originally by: Zeba with solid proof to back up the claim or not? Solid proof as in FRAPS? No. But I doubt it will now be possible to FRAPS him as I highly suspect he'll maintain a very low profile for the next few months. I doubt he'll be using his super seekrit technique" any time soon. And I expect his killboard stats to become less bloated with kills too. But, it is up to CCP to share all the findings with us (I doubt it). But I do believe they should be able to determine within reasonable certainty whether this monkey dude is cheating or not. no matter what the russians claim to know how to duplicate the advantage, so only a matter of time till most of eve can do it. Well then, Monkeyman's killboard stats should only improve by a huge margin when he figures out how to execute the exploit , because you know, he's not already using it. I guess we should expect an improvement to his KD ratio, not a decrease :P. We'll see who's right. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.26 15:05:00 - [48] Originally by: Malaclypse Muscaria Originally by: Xtover Originally by: Psychotic Maniac Anybody else notice that Monkey has been out of business since this post began? Already banned I presume. He's stuck in a C2 (I think that's the size) with a mach... meaning his ****** is stuck and can't get out. ... I'm going to wager that's just the convenient excuse he's using to explain away his inability to continue pulling off his amazing ganking feats now that CCP is watching Regardless on whether he's "stuck" on a WH or hiding, I'm wagering that he won't be fattening his killboard as he has been doing all along. I expect his kills to go down to more reasonable levels now. At least this will indicate he's stopped using the exploit. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.26 15:11:00 - [49] Originally by: Gunnanmon Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia justice is justice. whether or not you can justify it is a personal matter that is handled individually. somehow i sleep better knowing the hundreds of people that have been systematically exploiting eve are getting what is coming to them. Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia I'm glad they are getting killed by someone exploiting. And the at-the-keyboard players that arenÆt cheating and having this exploit used on? They deserve to be cheated on why again? Collateral damage. o_O And we just let Pandemic Legion decide who's "collateral damage" and who deserves to be cheated on because why exactly? What's so special about PL? Have they been trained by CCP on the use of exploits for the greater cause and been sanctioned by CCP to use exploits on regular playing and paying customers? STOP. JUSTIFYING. THE. USE. OF. ANY. EXPLOIT. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.26 15:35:00 - [50] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia so tell me, where exactly was the 50 page rant/rave thread against them these past few years? sure, it's been mentioned, but not seriously addressed. why? no public outrage There is public outrage. The reason why you don't see a 50 page "rant" is because everyone is pretty much in unison that they need to be banned as well. What you're not seeing them do is trolling their calls to be nerfed or even justifying their exploits as Pandemic Legion and followers have been doing on this thread. Be clear, it's 50+pages of back-and-forth bickering, namely PL and friends denying AND justifying the use of this exploit. Believe me, if bot users were trolling as hard as these Pandemic Legion fools are there would be a 50-page megathread on them. Quote: everyone wants to castrate this one player but look the other way at the hundreds of other cheaters. funny isn't it? No one is justifying the use of exploits or bots BUT PL and company. I say ban all the exploit users, from PL AND any others using them. Quote: sorry to those that are legitimately playing that die to an exploit, it sucks. but WE ARE ALL being effected by the macro exploit. As apparently we are now being affected by yet another exploit. But this one is being justified as some sort of solver of other exploits. Quote: so please, commence with the outrage towards them as well or stfu Sure, I'll start a 50-page thread and fill it up with me typing "BAN ALL BOTTERS" over and over again because obviously this is what this thread is about , amirite? If PL and company stopped trolling and ****ting all over this thread I assure you it would have died long ago. But as some continue to justify and defend this monkey-dude there will continue to be people responding. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.26 15:43:00 - [51] Originally by: Xtover Edited by: Xtover on 26/04/2010 15:21:22 Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 And we just let Pandemic Legion decide who's "collateral damage" and who deserves to be cheated on because why exactly? What's so special about PL? Have they been trained by CCP on the use of exploits for the greater cause and been sanctioned by CCP to use exploits on regular playing and paying customers? STOP. JUSTIFYING. THE. USE. OF. ANY. EXPLOIT. The only exploiting I have any solid proof of, are from those who posted pics and vids in this thread. Otherwise it's just speculation and assumptions. Of course . The only "solid" proof you'd accept is the one that doesn't incriminate your buddies with exploits. That is all mere speculation. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.27 23:57:00 - [52] Originally by: Ranka Mei Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia how terrible will you look if/when monkey goes back to killing people with the same efficiency using valid techniques? You know, should that happen, I will apologize to him in public, and bow to his superior PvP skills. I'm not kidding. But turnabout is fair play. If his stats suddenly revert to that of a regular player, will you come out and admit he cheated? Count me in on this. If Monkeyman can continue to keep his PVP rank/kill ratio after this fix I will publicly apologize and send him 100 mills. But if he can't keep his killing spree, I wonder what excuses will Pandemic Legion and alts (ie Pr1ncess Alia and co) concoct? . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.28 00:46:00 - [53] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 If Monkeyman can continue to keep his PVP rank/kill ratio after this fix I will publicly apologize and send him 100 mills. But if he can't keep his killing spree, I wonder what excuses will Pandemic Legion and alts (ie Pr1ncess Alia and co) concoct? . Monkey has a worse k/d ratio than me and I'm terrible, if he is exploiting he is doing it wrong. CCP has made it clear that using an exploit is a bannable offense, the fact he isn't banned should be a clue for you guys. Log's may not show everything, but that bit where you enter your password and do a server handshake, that is logged. Wouldn't it be odd if a CCP employee looked at the killmail time stamps, and then looked at the arazu logging in, and perhaps came to some conclusion about how this was done. Good luck with your attempts to reopen petitions, because that's the real motive behind this witch hunt. He has had 20+ ratter kills in a matter of hours, sometimes minutes even, as far as 6 systems away from each other, different corps/alliances, mostly by himself or with (what I suspect are) his alts, "lol internets" and "goose hypocrisy". And he can achive this kind of success days at a time, consistently. If he can still pull this off after the exploit fix then I owe him an apology. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.28 22:17:00 - [54] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 28/04/2010 22:21:26 Originally by: Wyn Pharoh Well, I guess you also made Eve a slightly safer place for horrble pilots to rat in Marauders as well, congratulations there for white knighting stupidity in null sec. So horrible in fact, you need an exploit to kill them. Because using exploits on stupid players should be OK, amirite? Originally by: Wyn Pharoh Do yourself and the entire community that you are a representative member of a favor, get real about macrobots or simply stfu. Take your own advice and U STFU. U have a nice day, son :D! Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.29 01:56:00 - [55] Originally by: Wyn Pharoh Not once have I said exploits are mkay. I will lol with the rest of Eve if someone, especially someone in PL, gets banhammered over this. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys in fact. Ofc they don't pretend they're nice, and while I wouldn't want to rent from them (if they still had space, lol) I can say that in all my roams through Fountain when they did hold sov, macrobots were one thing that I never came across. Just sayin... In the meantime, continue to do nothing and continue to troll, it's really working as intended. Right . What did you mean by: Originally by: Wyn Pharoh Well, I guess you also made Eve a slightly safer place for horrble pilots to rat in Marauders as well, congratulations there for white knighting stupidity in null sec. You can say what you will. But that statement above pretty much sums up your stance on the issue of PL using exploits. Translated: All that was accomlished by plugging this exploit is that null sec was made safer to stupid ratters. As if using exploits on stupid ratters is a good thing. You come here flashing the card of all high and mighty when the very least you could do is claim your true colors, as they're showing anyway. But meh. Keep pretending I guess. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.29 11:05:00 - [56] Originally by: Stygian Knight So, a 6 bil ship for ratting is impossible to kill and should not die, and if it dies it's exploit ? Lone fact that he is using 6 bil ship for 0.0 ratting implicates that he is one of the biggest ******s in eve, and deserved to die in a fire. He didn't say 6-billion-isk ships shouldn't die. He said Mankeydude should be able to continue his 6-billion-isk killing spree regardless on whether the exploit was plugged or not because "he wasn't cheating". Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.29 11:33:00 - [57] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 29/04/2010 11:36:23 Orly? That's strange. Pandemic isn't updating his kills on his killboard. PL Killboard: Monkeysphere Hmmm, I wonder if he's banned and Pandemic is just keeping it in the downlow. He hasn't had a kill since a week ago. It is awefully convenient of him to be "stuck" in a wormhole all this time . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.29 12:23:00 - [58] Originally by: Stygian Knight You gotta do your homework better, eve is a place of many alts Seriously, your propaganda machine sux . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.29 15:42:00 - [59] Us: Strange, Monkeyman hasn't had kills since a week ago. PL: "He's already started killinz " Us: But according to your own killboard he hasn't killed anything since a week ago . PL: "He's stuck in a wormhole" PL: "He's using an alt". PL: "He has no time with all the mandatory ops and CTAs" PL: "He just had a baby" PL: "Um, he's planning a triumphant return to show you suckas" I see . Pandemic Legion Propaganda Machine is the best propaganda machine. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.29 21:37:00 - [60] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Give me one item of proof he was cheating. There is no proof that will convince you. Or rather, you're looking to save face (Pandemic Legion's). Read the thread from page 1 and notice the progression. Notice all the evidence that is presented. Notice how Pandemic Legion progresses with their excuses. Notice your own progression. The proof you ask for doesn't exist. Because you will excuse ANY proof that is presented here with some bull** reason on what happened. It's all you've been doing. What you ask for is what you know no one has, a FRAPS of Monkey's GUI exploiting along with a signed confession from him. And even then you'll come here and say it's fake, or switch gears and instead justify his cheating. This won't end with you. Save your court questions for CCP because when ** hits the fan you'll want to throw your stupid "OMG CCP WHERES PROOFZ? WHY YOU BANS MONKEY MAN?" That if he hasn't already been banned. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.30 11:27:00 - [61] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 30/04/2010 11:28:42 Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 That if he hasn't already been banned. See how dumb and wrong you are right here? I'll help you a long with the biomass process and tell you that its been this way for the whole thread. Also, Ellatan, you seem to have a problem with the idea of verifiable evidence that incriminates somebody. You know, like the kind that got overlooked when your alliance got caught with the POS exploit, but got off of free of charge because of developer ties? Now see, thats ACTUAL proof, not things matrix dreams up in his basement at night while raging about ninja's. I actually expected more from you though, to bite so hard on the troll and run with it this far is a bit shocking. I guess your just not very good at actually playing anymore. Re-read that line until you completely understand the meaning of it before calling others dumb. And once you've understood it, explain to me what you think it means. I'll give you a second chance :). Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.30 18:22:00 - [62] Originally by: Lady Karma Confirming that since the hotfix, it is now completely impossible for PL to farm deadspace fit farmers Confirming that Monkeyman and his alts (the ones singled out for cheating), STILL have no kills since 4/23. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.01 12:36:00 - [63] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 01/05/2010 12:37:14 Originally by: Lady Karma I see, Onino, is using a different hack that has not been patched yet. That is the obvious conclusion. When you say no kills since 4/23 you clearly missed the 60 he has had on lolinternets, they clearly prove he is banned/exploiting PS: QQ more No, it proves he's not doing the 20+ kills/day he was doing before the exploit was fixed. Tell me, Lady Karma, are you: 1) Purposefully misinforming and derailing from the issues? Or 2) Are really that lacking in brain power? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.01 18:52:00 - [64] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 No, it proves he's not doing the 20+ kills/day he was doing before the exploit was fixed. Tell me, Lady Karma, are you: 1) Purposefully misinforming and derailing from the issues? Or 2) Are really that lacking in brain power? He's actually averaging more than 20+ kills a day, and its because Fountain only respawns once every 2 years, and your an idiot if you miss it. But hey, he should definitely perform like a dancing bear for some mouthbreather who biomassed his first character in game because he got trolled too hard. I know I would. Let me get this straight. You think I biomassed Mk 1 because he got trolled too hard? And then decided to create another character with the same name because that would cover his tracks? . Is that what this whole "I know who you were, Matrix" **** was all about? . You guys are really sharp. No, really. You are . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.02 02:01:00 - [65] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 02/05/2010 02:02:31 Originally by: Lady Karma All of the above are you are really that, is a sentence structure I lack the brain power to understand. Do you have brain power to process this sentence? Originally by: Lady Karma Yes, that sounds like a colossal waste of time. Go right ahead, I'm on the phone to the care police right now. "I'm on the phone to the care police". Looks like you and I lack from the same deficiency, son. Edit: From this thread HERE. Oh, and PWNT I guess? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.02 02:27:00 - [66] Originally by: Lady Karma Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 "I'm on the phone to the care police". Looks like you and I lack from the same deficiency, son. Edit: From this thread HERE. Oh, and PWNT I guess? PWNT?? is that word in your head. Ok, it would appear you still haven't grasped the concept of the English language. I was offering you free lessons and tissues. I can't believe you of all people, have never heard of the care police, I thought you would have them on speed dial. So...please to be explaining why you bimomassed character teary cry cry. Actually, I got it from your PL buddy, Gunnanmon, from here. So is it in both our heads? I'm worried now :(. And since you insist in knowing the story of Mk1 vs Mk2 I'll tell ya :). It's quite boring actually, but since you seem to be lacking ammo in attacking me I'll be kind enough to give ya some :P I never intended to have Matrix stick around for long. He was supposed to be a temporary project to troll forum trolls, such as yourself. So after a few months I deleted him. But then I realized that trolling people like you was really too much fun to pass up and decided to bring him back from the biomass :) Aren't you glad I did? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.02 04:14:00 - [67] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 02/05/2010 04:25:40 Wow, that little story about Mk1 gave you... ammo, eh? :p I throw you leftover scraps and you run with it and eat it like it's steak . I honestly feel very flattered. Thank you. I really mean that Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.02 05:42:00 - [68] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 02/05/2010 05:42:40 Originally by: Hulkageddon You, sir, are an idiot. And you, sir, speak as if you're still in the Victorian Age . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.02 10:43:00 - [69] Originally by: Mr Epeen I don't know why, MatrixSkye, but I like you. While I don't always agree with what you are saying, you have a quick wit and a general good sense of humor. If you weren't so damn ugly that I'd be embarrassed to be seen with you, I'd invite you out for a beer. Alas we are who we are and it will never come to be. But the thought is there, anyway. Mr Epeen Thanks . I did choose his looks for greater psychological effect :P. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.02 21:13:00 - [70] Originally by: Grath Telkin Jesus christ your bad at this NO U! No, seriously, U!! Now if I can get you to realize this is how terrible PL trolls as well then I'll have done my job here :). I wonder what the chances of that are, though . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.03 15:00:00 - [71] Originally by: Malcanis When you gaze in to the Abyss, the Abyss also gazes in to you. I loved that movie :). Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

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