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Mir Anto	Posted - 2010.04.21 01:05:00 - [1] Using the excellent WineBottler application, I packaged some OSX binaries of EVEMon and EFT. This is very similar to running them with Darwine or Wine on the Mac, except that I did almost all the work packaging them with all necessary frameworks, runtimes, and tweaks necessary to get them working. You can check them out here. Please do let me know how they work for you (see the Contact page), and if there is any other software you would like to see made into an OSX binary.
Ivana Twinkle Amarr Red Federation	Posted - 2010.04.21 15:07:00 - [2] i would give 100 mill isk for a bottled version of EVEHQ, that works with updates and such, but since it's .net i doutbt it'll happen :-s I'll check out evemon, great job.
Gunther Gabel Caldari Serenity Ascension On the Rocks	Posted - 2010.04.21 23:33:00 - [3] VERY nice job, I have been able to get EFT for some time, but couldn't get over the .net 2.0 problem for EvEMON. Thank you very much
Kia Tor	Posted - 2010.04.22 04:37:00 - [4] Originally by: Ivana Twinkle i would give 100 mill isk for a bottled version of EVEHQ, that works with updates and such, but since it's .net i doutbt it'll happen :-s I'll check out evemon, great job. Throw EveMeep in with EveHQ and I'll give you 200 mil
Mir Anto	Posted - 2010.04.22 06:24:00 - [5] EVEHQ has proven to be quite a tough nut to crack... don't hold your breath. I will check out EveMeep tomorrow and post back.
Verite Rendition Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.04.25 11:07:00 - [6] This is something I've been meaning to do for quite some time but never got around to doing it. It looks good, so thanks for the hard work Mir. Just as a few notes from what I've encountered: As a general note to everyone, unfortunately it looks like Wine 1.1.42/1.1.43 doesn't get along well with the EVEMon bottles. If you have either of those installed, EVEMon will fail to load a second time. This includes the Complete bottle, as a full Wine installation overrides the bottled Wine installation. So for anyone looking to have a regular Wine installation along with these bottles, you don't have a choice but to use 1.1.35 for the time being. It may be that a fresh bottle made with 1.1.42/1.1.43 will work, but I don't have the time to poke at it. You may want to give it a shot, Mir. Oh and Mir, for EFT you don't need to have users drag around the data files. If you put them in <app bottle>/Contents/Resource/drive_c/winebottler/, then they will get copied over in to the user's prefix when they first run the bottle. Strangely enough you do this for the Complete version already, but not the Basic version. I would also put a simple config.ini file (EFT's configuration file) in there with Force High Color Icons enabled, so that EFT looks correct on first load, since Wine borks transparency of EFT's default True Color icons. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf
Flynn Fetladral BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2010.04.25 11:27:00 - [7] It's great to have EFT working, thanks very much. One thing which seems to happen though is every time I close EFT, any saved fittings are lost and my character is not saved. So you have to start from scratch every time you load EFT up.
Uriqoui Tribe Industries	Posted - 2010.05.01 15:44:00 - [8] Excellent work! Thank you very much!
Ivana Twinkle Amarr Red Federation	Posted - 2010.05.05 16:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Mir Anto Edited by: Mir Anto on 23/04/2010 00:39:14 EVEHQ has proven to be quite a tough nut to crack... don't hold your breath. yea that's what i thought, maybe if i got mono running on osx...
Gunther Gabel Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.05.30 20:48:00 - [10] OK, been running this for quite some time, works perfect. PI skills crash it I downloaded the new PI skills file and replaced the file of the same name in the resources folder PI skills still crash it Any chance of an update or some instructions??

AmirrAzura	Posted - 2010.05.31 04:15:00 - [11] nice work
Demetrius DeVolnay	Posted - 2010.08.22 11:02:00 - [12] Edited by: Demetrius DeVolnay on 22/08/2010 11:04:59 Hello there! I've made 2 new WineBottled versions of EVEMon (1.3.3.2418) and EFT (2.12.4). They work for me, hope they'll work for you too! App-only versions are intended for those of you who already have WineBottler on their Macs, complete ones for those who need Wine libraries included in the app. Here's the links: EVEMon 1.3.3.2418: App-only: EVEMon-1.3.3.2418-AppOnly.zip 161.18 MB (md5: 2a674429d87d7c6a6a4cd7b8da1d323d) Complete: EVEMon-1.3.3.2418-Complete.zip 215.04 MB (md5: bac33d3e6664894387c66997e0ab0ab1) EFT 2.12.4: App-only: EFT-2.12.4-AppOnly.zip 16 MB (md5: 8b94c596b83c48d3846b48b80ca33199) Complete: EFT-2.12.4-Complete.zip 69.7 MB (md5: 665d728f6539ac547f53c9997d331435) Of course, I can't guarantee proper working for these apps, but here's screenshot of them on my Mac: EVEMon: EFT:
Luna Moonraker LUNA-CORP	Posted - 2010.08.22 12:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Demetrius DeVolnay Edited by: Demetrius DeVolnay on 22/08/2010 11:04:59 Hello there! I've made 2 new WineBottled versions of EVEMon (1.3.3.2418) and EFT (2.12.4). They work for me, hope they'll work for you too! App-only versions are intended for those of you who already have WineBottler on their Macs, complete ones for those who need Wine libraries included in the app. Both working great on iMac 27" with 10.6.4. Thanks very much for this.
Demetrius DeVolnay	Posted - 2010.08.22 15:23:00 - [14] You're welcome, Luna Moonraker. I've also bottled two apps containing EveHQ (1.15.2.1820). Since I'm not a huge user of this app, I can't tell if it's 100% working, but I've tested it a little, and all major functionalities seems to be OK, as well as the updating system. Hope it'll work for you too! Here's a screenshot: Of course, if you like that, ISK donations are accepted and very welcome! Here's the links: EveHQ 1.15.2.1820 App-only: EveHQ-1.15.2.1820-AppOnly.zip 235.92 MB (md5: e7fc385fb3813c2178b8fe3ce0b6347c) Complete: EveHQ-1.15.2.1820-Complete.zip 289.78 MB (md5: 6ffb4bfa030c0d063bac845c839db049)
Merivel Mar	Posted - 2010.08.22 16:44:00 - [15] Edited by: Merivel Mar on 22/08/2010 16:45:50 Originally by: Demetrius DeVolnay Edited by: Demetrius DeVolnay on 22/08/2010 11:04:59 Hello there! I've made 2 new WineBottled versions of EVEMon (1.3.3.2418) and EFT (2.12.4). They work for me, hope they'll work for you too! App-only versions are intended for those of you who already have WineBottler on their Macs, complete ones for those who need Wine libraries included in the app. Here's the links: EVEMon 1.3.3.2418: App-only: EVEMon-1.3.3.2418-AppOnly.zip 161.18 MB (md5: 2a674429d87d7c6a6a4cd7b8da1d323d) Complete: EVEMon-1.3.3.2418-Complete.zip 215.04 MB (md5: bac33d3e6664894387c66997e0ab0ab1) EFT 2.12.4: App-only: EFT-2.12.4-AppOnly.zip 16 MB (md5: 8b94c596b83c48d3846b48b80ca33199) Complete: EFT-2.12.4-Complete.zip 69.7 MB (md5: 665d728f6539ac547f53c9997d331435) Of course, I can't guarantee proper working for these apps, but here's screenshot of them on my Mac: EVEMon: EFT: Thank You much for this
Xiaolung Bao	Posted - 2010.08.26 19:54:00 - [16] I downloaded the bottled EveMon above and it worked fine until it tried to update my character's skill queue and the server status. It was able to use the API key to get the character information, but it could not connect to the server for skill updates or server status. I could also pull down the Mineral prices from other websites. I ran EveMon under VMWare and it worked flawlessly (as one might expect). I bottled up EveMon in CodeWeaver's CrossOver and it worked exactly like the bottled EveMon presented here: it could not update the character skill queue or the server status. It seems that points to a problem in the underlying WINE or X11 stuff. Any clues?
Krebskasper	Posted - 2010.08.27 11:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Xiaolung Bao I downloaded the bottled EveMon above and it worked fine until it tried to update my character's skill queue and the server status. It was able to use the API key to get the character information, but it could not connect to the server for skill updates or server status. I could also pull down the Mineral prices from other websites. I ran EveMon under VMWare and it worked flawlessly (as one might expect). I bottled up EveMon in CodeWeaver's CrossOver and it worked exactly like the bottled EveMon presented here: it could not update the character skill queue or the server status. It seems that points to a problem in the underlying WINE or X11 stuff. Any clues? Same here, I'm afraid.
Shin Chogan Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.27 15:00:00 - [18] you need to disable the network status checking in .net find the settings.xml file in your /bottle/drive_c/users/<username>/Application Data/EveMon directory. Find the line <ignoreNetworkStatus>false</ignoreNetworkStatus> and replace it with <ignoreNetworkStatus>true</ignoreNetworkStatus>
Xiaolung Bao	Posted - 2010.08.27 17:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Shin Chogan you need to disable the network status checking in .net find the settings.xml file in your /bottle/drive_c/users/<username>/Application Data/EveMon directory. Find the line <ignoreNetworkStatus>false</ignoreNetworkStatus> and replace it with <ignoreNetworkStatus>true</ignoreNetworkStatus> I couldn't quite find that file, but I did something that worked just as well. I exported the settings directly from EVEMon (File -> Save Settings). Then I edited THIS file. Then I re-imported the settings into EVEMon (File ->Restore Settings). That worked. Thank you.
jonmar	Posted - 2010.08.28 10:04:00 - [20] Thanks Shin Chogan that solved it for me. If you are having difficulty locating the required file, its here:- /Users/<your username>/Library/Application Support/Wine/prefixes/EVEMon-1.3.3.2418/drive_c/users/<your username>/Application Data/EVEMon/settings.xml Then follow the instructions in Shin Chogan's post.

Demetrius DeVolnay	Posted - 2010.08.29 14:32:00 - [21] Thank you guys for pointing this out. And many thanks to those who donated! I will keep this thread updated with newer versions when available.
Manssell	Posted - 2010.08.31 17:58:00 - [22] I'm getting a authentication failure. Every time I try to put in my API key I get this message "if you've just changed your API key the old one may not yet expire from the web server cache. Try again in a few minutes". I didn't change my API key and it doesn't see to clear the cache? Also in using the last version I had problems importing the XML fit files from the eve client. EFT would try to import a XML from what seemed like one location, the "XML files folder" but I can't seem to find that folder or change where EFT wants to look for them.
Krispy Dingo Minmatar Strangers in a Strange Land	Posted - 2010.09.22 17:50:00 - [23] On the EveHQ package, the buttons to manage your skill queues, i.e. Edit Queue, Delete Queue, Set as Primary, were not working. I installed winetrick comctl32 and it fixed it for me. So happy that EveHQ will run under Wine now, but it will probably be short lived. Once 2.0 comes out, and they make the full switch to SQL for the database, I doubt we will be able to get it to run. Fingers crossed, though. _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com
Demetrius DeVolnay	Posted - 2010.10.02 09:46:00 - [24] @Manssell: thanks for pointing this out, will look into it for the next versions. Were you talking about EveMon? EveMon had problems to connect during summer, should be okay now. @Krispy Dingo: yup, it's very possible that I forgot to include comctl32. It fixed the problem? Nice, will include it in the next update for EveHQ.
Manssell	Posted - 2010.10.04 19:44:00 - [25] No, I was talking about EFT.
Krispy Dingo Minmatar Strangers in a Strange Land	Posted - 2010.10.07 01:41:00 - [26] There is an easy fix for the EFT fit import problem. I'm on my phone and not staring at my Mac, so I'll throw it up here when I get home. Basically, you need to configure the prefix to go to the right folder for my documents. _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com
Hunter Ace Gallente Mega Force	Posted - 2010.10.07 19:41:00 - [27] Um, I'm kind of a newb when it comes to Mac's (I've had my 27" iMac for not quite a year now) and I have no idea what this WineBottler, Darwine or Wine stuff is. Anyone care to fill me in?
Krispy Dingo Minmatar Strangers in a Strange Land	Posted - 2010.10.07 20:07:00 - [28] First, remember that Wine Is Not an Emulator! It is a program that allows you to run certain types of Windows software on Unix based systems, like Linux and Mac OS X with intel chips (OS X is based off FreeBSD) Read more here http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)?wasRedirected=true _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com
Manssell	Posted - 2010.10.10 02:54:00 - [29] Thanks Kripsy dingo! That fixed it for me.
Bongo0	Posted - 2010.10.11 23:17:00 - [30] Hi I've tried to get EVEHQ to down load by clicking on the link but I get the following error: HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error Has something changed so that it will no longer work? I have downloaded the other two fine and they work great in Wine. Thanks for that I've been wanting to use them for ages Bongo

Debir Achen	Posted - 2010.10.15 02:24:00 - [31] Xiaolung, you mentioned you had this working under CrossOver. I've got CrossOver Games - can I just run the EveMon and EFT installers and have things work? Or am I better to pull down the full bottles that Demetrius made and use them independently?
Krispy Dingo Minmatar Strangers in a Strange Land	Posted - 2010.10.16 19:36:00 - [32] According to Codeweavers, EVEMon only gets a Bronze Medal, meaning it will run, barely. It used to not run at all because they put code in their app that prevents a lot of the .NET stuff(a technical term) from functioning properly. I would recommend going with the bottled versions that you can run in Wine. _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com
Demetrius DeVolnay	Posted - 2010.10.17 07:51:00 - [33] Edited by: Demetrius DeVolnay on 17/10/2010 07:52:36 @Bongo0: I just tried the links, they are working for me right now. Strange behavior. Also, yes I would recommend using the bottles. Should be more stable.
Debir Achen	Posted - 2010.10.19 04:00:00 - [34] Strange. First time I ran EveMon, it all worked mostly fine. Except that every so often I get a small notification dialog box that contains nothing other than a disabled close/min/grow buttons in the title bar and a small purple lightbulb. All I can do is click on the light-bulb to close it (I can also drag the window around using title bar, but nothing else). Restarting, it still works mostly fine, except that the pane containing the training list box/table on the skills planning pane has decided that it wants to take up about 50% of the available space, and refuses to bind to the right and bottom border of the window. Very strange. Restarting a couple more times hasn't fixed this.
Enst Smath	Posted - 2010.10.23 00:27:00 - [35] So how do you right-click in the skill planner to manage things such as priority? Right-click works on the main Evemon window. And thanks much for the updated winebottler package!
eXeler0n Caldari Matari Sentinel-Squad	Posted - 2010.10.23 20:16:00 - [36] i cant download eve mon small version. i tried it by myself, but i get every time an error, when i add skills to a plan.
eXeler0n Caldari Matari Sentinel-Squad	Posted - 2010.10.24 08:49:00 - [37] Hi, your vesions works perfect, but it has one mistake. I calt use right click on skillplane, so i cant delete skills, remap points etc. Can you fix this?
Servant Raven Caldari	Posted - 2010.10.25 09:31:00 - [38] Hey, has anyone tried to run Planetary Interaction Tool (http://sites.google.com/site/eveplanetaryplanner/home) on mac? Can it be done?
Krispy Dingo Minmatar Strangers in a Strange Land	Posted - 2010.10.25 12:43:00 - [39] It's a little funky how you do it, but right click does work. You need to first select the skill in the window, then right click on the top bar (Where it shows "Skill Name", "Training Time", et al). See pic for a visual representation. http://flic.kr/p/8MT4fc _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com
Enst Smath	Posted - 2010.10.25 22:43:00 - [40] Originally by: Krispy Dingo It's a little funky how you do it, but right click does work. You need to first select the skill in the window, then right click on the top bar (Where it shows "Skill Name", "Training Time", et al). Perfect, this worked fine, and, uh, I miss flying drunk, because I think I just accidentally reported your post.

Emb3r Genus	Posted - 2010.10.26 00:08:00 - [41] Anyone get right click or price updating to work with EFT?
Krispy Dingo Minmatar Strangers in a Strange Land	Posted - 2010.10.27 20:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Emb3r Genus Anyone get right click or price updating to work with EFT? with EFT, left click on the module, right click anywhere off the module, either blank space or on the stats, then right click on the module again. price updating should work ok without doing anything special. just make sure you close the info window after updating price, then reopen it. _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com
Krispy Dingo Minmatar Strangers in a Strange Land	Posted - 2010.10.27 20:56:00 - [43] Originally by: Servant Raven Hey, has anyone tried to run Planetary Interaction Tool (http://sites.google.com/site/eveplanetaryplanner/home) on mac? Can it be done? yes, it works just fine. I wasn't even aware of the existence of this program, very nice. open winebottler, create new prefix, create from copy is in the drop down where it says "new prefix" select your prefix for EVEMon, no need to go through everything creating a new. Select the downloaded file at the top, and check the box that says "copy only". Let winebottler do its thing. When it is done, launch EVEPlanetaryPlanner. After it is up and running, open Finder, navigate to ~/Library/Application Support/Wine/prefixes/EVEPlanetaryPlanner/drive_c/winebottler and drop the PlantaryInteraction.xml file there. Close and relaunch and you should be good to go. _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com
Servant Raven Caldari	Posted - 2010.10.28 10:51:00 - [44] Originally by: Krispy Dingo Originally by: Servant Raven Hey, has anyone tried to run Planetary Interaction Tool (http://sites.google.com/site/eveplanetaryplanner/home) on mac? Can it be done? yes, it works just fine. I wasn't even aware of the existence of this program, very nice. open winebottler, create new prefix, create from copy is in the drop down where it says "new prefix" select your prefix for EVEMon, no need to go through everything creating a new. Select the downloaded file at the top, and check the box that says "copy only". Let winebottler do its thing. When it is done, launch EVEPlanetaryPlanner. After it is up and running, open Finder, navigate to ~/Library/Application Support/Wine/prefixes/EVEPlanetaryPlanner/drive_c/winebottler and drop the PlantaryInteraction.xml file there. Close and relaunch and you should be good to go. Thank you! :) It does work. I found this program some time ago, but couldnt start it, so I forgot it. I guess its time to buy some CCs :P
Le Soltueur Original Sin.	Posted - 2010.10.30 14:18:00 - [45] Originally by: Krispy Dingo Mac OS X with intel chips (OS X is based off FreeBSD) Mac OS is built on BSD Unix. FreeBSD is based off BSD Unix.
Debir Achen	Posted - 2010.11.05 06:54:00 - [46] All of a sudden, my bottled EveMon won't launch. EFT still launches, but EveMon just kicks X11 into gear and then stops. Console log isn't overly helpful: C:\Program Files\EVEMon\EVEMon.exe Any ideas? Any useful log files hidden somewhere?
Krispy Dingo Minmatar The Demon Gate True Reign	Posted - 2010.11.09 14:58:00 - [47] I have some sad news about EVEMon through Wine. Yesterday, I downloaded the latest snapshot and dropped it into my install folder. When I launched, I received this popup: It looks like, until Wine moves up to using .net 4.0, we are SOL. Unless someone knows how to get the installer for .net 4.0 to actually work. _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com
Leon Gaff	Posted - 2010.12.11 13:46:00 - [48] anyone know how to import old setup data from EFT? oh, and excellent work you all, btw
Caspardian Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2010.12.11 14:11:00 - [49] Originally by: Krispy Dingo It's a little funky how you do it, but right click does work. You need to first select the skill in the window, then right click on the top bar (Where it shows "Skill Name", "Training Time", et al). See pic for a visual representation. http://flic.kr/p/8MT4fc I tried to to this, and the right click worked, but the "remove from queue" option was grayed out. Any idea why?
Collin Osborne	Posted - 2011.01.16 00:53:00 - [50] Is anyone else having issues changing ammo or cap booster charges? How the heck do you do it? (talking about the EFT)

Caspardian Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2011.01.19 21:53:00 - [51] Originally by: Collin Osborne Is anyone else having issues changing ammo or cap booster charges? How the heck do you do it? (talking about the EFT) You have to right click on the right side of the module first, and then come back and right click on the left side. I don't know why, but that's how it works. - - - - - - And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust... Dang, I really need to stop losing ships.
eXeler0n Caldari FrEE d00M Fighters	Posted - 2011.01.19 23:35:00 - [52] Is someone able to run the latest version of EVEMon on Mac? I found out, that it needs .net 4.0
Elesentra Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.24 15:47:00 - [53] Originally by: eXeler0n Is someone able to run the latest version of EVEMon on Mac? I found out, that it needs .net 4.0 I logged in here to ask exactly the same thing, but you beat me to it eXelerOn. It seems there is no .NET 4 available for Wine yet.
Myriel Viper Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.27 16:40:00 - [54] I'm using the Wine version that shipped with the WineBottler to run EFT. My problem is that EFT doesn't seem to recognize right mouse button clicks on turrets, so I can't change the ammunition in turrets, while it does recognize right mouse button clicks in other locations - like items in the equipment browser to the left. Did anyone ever have the same problem?
KeN YanJogger	Posted - 2011.03.09 07:32:00 - [55] Bump - Someone know how to get this up and running with .NET 4 Frame Work?
Amaroq Dricaldari Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.18 18:02:00 - [56] Although I do not have a Mac, I would pay as much ISK as possible in donation to a project to bottle the SiSi Launcher -- Why do you observe the piece of dirt in your brother's eye but not notice the big piece of mud in your own?
milegrin EVE University	Posted - 2011.04.21 17:25:00 - [57] Anyone managed to get EVEMon working in wine yet?
Nigue	Posted - 2011.04.22 21:26:00 - [58] I can't get no of the two apps work on my mac, but i found these substitutions that i found really useful: similar to evefit --> Pyfa similar to evemon --> MacEveTools Maybe these can help :)
ito kazami	Posted - 2011.06.11 21:17:00 - [59] both are working great on mbp I5 mac os 10.6.4 thx for le links !
Debir Achen Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.26 11:29:00 - [60] Been using the bottled version for a while now, with minimal issues. The just yesterday it started to throw unrecoverable exceptions. Is anyone else still using this, and have you seen similar symptoms? I tried resetting it and coming back, but the issue occurred again as soon as my account tried to load. (Unless it's the ORE Industrial in my alts training queue?)

Riker Atros Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2011.08.28 04:38:00 - [61] Whoever made this program, knows nothing about coding for compatibility, have you seen the complexity involved in trying to get this to run on mac, only to find out the info is outdated and no longer valid?? leaves to much room for something to go wrong, what a piece of junk software. F* evemon, Id even pay for an app like this IF IF IF IF IF IF IF it worked worth a **, and had more time and effort put into it.
Riker Atros Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2011.08.28 04:49:00 - [62] Oh the packaged version that someone posted, for some reason cannot connect to internet?? so It's useless
Salam Horani	Posted - 2011.08.28 08:01:00 - [63] Edited by: Salam Horani on 28/08/2011 08:02:31 i have gtkEveMon 18.126 which implements the character attribute planning part of the original EveMon if anyone likes. i had to compile it myself and hack an old wrapper to use it. i use it only for that reason, as it's pretty ugly compared to Mac Eve Tools, plus mac eve tools skill, cert, and ship planning part is superior imo. i also endorse pyfa mentioned in a previous post. here's the link for nayone interested: gtkEveMon cheers,


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