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Protector X	Posted - 2010.04.24 19:58:00 - [1] Im training for a sacrilege granted im a caldari pilot i've fallen in love with this ship before i've even flown it. Ive longed for an armor tanked missle boat for awhile, but i want to hear from the pilots that has experience with this ship. Ive messed around with a fit on eft and the one i came upon, was a dual armor rep cap stable fit by using CCC rigs , ive done some searching and saw no other fit with CCC rigs to stabilize the cap. Also thinking about putting an Afterburner on it instead of the usual mwd. How does this ship work out in pvp, i've personally never ran into one. Is CCC rigs to make cap stable a bad idea? How about this type of ship using an AB with the assault missles? Would like to here some success and fail stories , get an idea of what are anti-sacrileges.
Amarr Supremacist	Posted - 2010.04.24 20:15:00 - [2] Edited by: Amarr Supremacist on 24/04/2010 20:16:16 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1292338 Sakana's newest movie has some Sacrilege footage. It is also an amazing movie overall from a very competent PvP'er. The problem with the Sacrilege is it has extremely limited low slots. It runs into the same issue a dual MAR Brutix has (except not cap-wise) in that you have a very hard time balancing tank and gank - often you are forced to completely ignore (save for rigs maybe) damage mods. CCCs are generally bad on PvP fits - it has 4 mids so you could easily go MWD Scram Web and use a Cap Booster to sustain the dual MAR tank you wish to run. AB alone is a bad idea on this ship in PvP. ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet!
Proxyyyy Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:30:00 - [3] Edited by: Proxyyyy on 24/04/2010 21:30:33 I think its kinda funny when others that sh!t talk about the saccy! Now it seem to be on the bandwagon... Something, something, drake, drake is better in everyway and whatever! Pftt!!!
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:47:00 - [4] Very unimpressive ship, especialy if you are going to fit scram. Id say just fit disruptor, damage and range rig and kite what you can, run from anything else. Faction web and snakes would be nice.
Amarr Supremacist	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:11:00 - [5] Originally by: Proxyyyy Edited by: Proxyyyy on 24/04/2010 21:30:33 I think its kinda funny when others that sh!t talk about the saccy! Now it seem to be on the bandwagon... Something, something, drake, drake is better in everyway and whatever! Pftt!!! It's not a very good ship. You are stupid. There are better HACs (Vagabond) for solo roaming. Ishtar would probably work too. ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet!
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:19:00 - [6] Tank+Gank Sac (Intigo's fit) is decent Other fits that are good are the 1600mm plated Sac for RR gangs or to dump the tank almost completely and go for something like this: [Sacrilege, kite] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Internal Force Field Array I Medium Armor Repairer II Overdrive Injector System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II True Sansha Warp Disruptor Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400 Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Proxyyyy Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.24 23:45:00 - [7] Ill agree that the vagabond is better, but by a small margin. The sacrilege unlike the vagabond has the option to fight close or at range. Pilots tend to be so focused on its abiltiy to ( tank) that they gimp the ship and overlook other factors that can lead to better results. The vagabond has better abiltiy to destroy incoming fast tacklers, but when successfully tackled the sacrilege is superior. The sacrilege can also out last the vagabond in extended engagements (with its bonuses to capacitor recharge). Im currently looking at sacrilege fits that go atleast 1800m/sec and damage outputs of 500 - 600 not to mention the tank. Within the heavy assult ship class what can best the sacrilege? Its real challengers are in the bc class which dont have the speed and agility to match it. the drake would pose the biggest issue. While its possible that it may not be able to beat a ham drake. Im sure it could never lose (Cause it could just leave). A sacrilege can run its mwd indefinitely, and is one of the fastest Hacs ingame! Anything fast enough to catch it cant tank it and cannot break it. Its possible to out run the sacrilege, but not outlast it. [Sacrilege, Sacrilege] Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Small Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I Warrior II x3 I would like to try this fit at some point too... [Sacrilege, Lolz] Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Warrior II x3
Khors Amtek Inc	Posted - 2010.04.25 00:07:00 - [8] Been looking at a similiar shield fit for some time, it's pretty nice, just need some isk for it, got other priorities for what little I have atm sadly. -
Bielzkrick Wraith.Wing Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.04.25 06:57:00 - [9] One of the fastest HACs? It is the same speed as the Deimos and Muninn and both the Zealot and Vaga are faster.
Veshta Yoshida Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.25 07:42:00 - [10] I have had excellent results using dual-prop both before and after Quantum Rise. MWD for approach/catching, AB for tanking/killing. Scrambler is almost mandatory since HAM's does not have the range (you commonly lose 2-3km due to movement) so it is much better to sit on top of/near the target. Rigging should be used to enhance the tank or damage dealing .. a downside of HAM's is the explosion radius/velocity so an obvious use for a rig or two. CCC's look good on paper but a single enemy neutralizer will remove any benefit they bring, much better off using an injector. Anti-Sacrilege ships are anything that can overwhelm the tank .. most dangerous I have found is the Harbinger but would apply to all the tier2 BCs with the Hurricane coming in last for once (due to damage type/range). The dual-rep Sacrilege is massive fun and quite effective in limited engagements, but it is not for the faint of heart. Your armour will be bouncing back and forth like crazy so don't try it until you get the combat-shakes under control or you will lose to a panic attack
BuckStrider Fleem Co Honourable Templum of Alcedonia	Posted - 2010.04.25 12:50:00 - [11] Quote: Ill agree that the vagabond is better, ~~but~~ by a ~~small~~ huge margin. The ~~sacrilege~~ vagabond unlike the ~~vagabond~~ sacrilege has the option to fight close or at range. Fixed that mess for you....Wouldn't want you to look stupid by saying that Sac can fight at range
Amarr Supremacist	Posted - 2010.04.25 13:04:00 - [12] Originally by: BuckStrider Quote: Ill agree that the vagabond is better, ~~but~~ by a ~~small~~ huge margin. The ~~sacrilege~~ vagabond unlike the ~~vagabond~~ sacrilege has the option to fight close or at range. Fixed that mess for you....Wouldn't want you to look stupid by saying that Sac can fight at range Proxyyyy is incredibly incompetent. Not surprising. ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet!
Rip Striker	Posted - 2010.04.25 14:09:00 - [13] A valid Sac setup if you are in a gang (small or large, doesnt matter). Linkage
Proxyyyy Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.25 19:10:00 - [14] Meh! Dudes talking sh!t on the forums is always lulz. (NERDS) Ill be playing around in my new sacrilege sooner or later = ) Veshta Yoshida statements about the range of the sacrilege is true. To be able to effectivly kite , you would have to orbit at 16 - 17k (Against cruisers and below). We looked at that as a issue awhile back and fixed it by just putting on a missile velocity rig. I dont agree though that the sacrilege has to either be fit for gank or tank. It can have a good balance from what we're seeing. Its only real weakness is agaisnt smaller targets on approach. The fit it self is preforming up to scratch! Theyre are many other ships and fits that some of my bro's are able to fly (before im able to) that are considerd crap. Like the deimos when nano'ed with falloff seems good on paper but im waiting for what my bro has to say about the preformance. A solo rail diemos my corpmate was trying out was doing some epic things (R.I.P. rail/deimos). I may end up flying both... I like to hear from pilots i trust and i know who are good! About the preformance of certain ships im not able to fly yet. Ive always believe The sacrilege to be a hidden gem and wut not. Im currently enjoying the sentinel as well. In the end i like to try new ships and new fits! I dont just talk about it. In the end, if they end up being what i expected. (its all good)! If not u accept certain weaknesses and also acknowledge strentghs.
Protector X	Posted - 2010.04.26 23:12:00 - [15] Thanks for the advice everyone.
Amarr Supremacist	Posted - 2010.04.27 06:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Proxyyyy Meh! Dudes talking sh!t on the forums is always lulz. (NERDS) Ill be playing around in my new sacrilege sooner or later = ) Veshta Yoshida statements about the range of the sacrilege is true. To be able to effectivly kite , you would have to orbit at 16 - 17k (Against cruisers and below). We looked at that as a issue awhile back and fixed it by just putting on a missile velocity rig. I dont agree though that the sacrilege has to either be fit for gank or tank. It can have a good balance from what we're seeing. Its only real weakness is agaisnt smaller targets on approach. The fit it self is preforming up to scratch! Theyre are many other ships and fits that some of my bro's are able to fly (before im able to) that are considerd crap. Like the deimos when nano'ed with falloff seems good on paper but im waiting for what my bro has to say about the preformance. A solo rail diemos my corpmate was trying out was doing some epic things (R.I.P. rail/deimos). I may end up flying both... I like to hear from pilots i trust and i know who are good! About the preformance of certain ships im not able to fly yet. Ive always believe The sacrilege to be a hidden gem and wut not. Im currently enjoying the sentinel as well. In the end i like to try new ships and new fits! I dont just talk about it. In the end, if they end up being what i expected. (its all good)! If not u accept certain weaknesses and also acknowledge strentghs. "(NERDS)" Good post IMO. Especially since you completely ignore the fact that the majority of what you say is wrong (Vagabond can not fight at both close and long range?) and your fits are trash. Props. ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet!
Shaitis Caldari Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.27 11:36:00 - [17] sacrelige can mount 100MWD buhahahi and go 5K/s but reaching that speed for some reason requires 48484 minutes.
Aralieus Amarr Rising Devils En Garde	Posted - 2010.04.27 12:36:00 - [18] I have used it this fit on Sisi to some success: [Sacrilege, Sacrilege: Passive Sac] Adaptive Nano Plating II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Target Painter II 10MN Afterburner II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Bay Loading Accelerator I Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Warrior II x3 With HG slaves you can acquire a massive buffer for a cruiser hull mixed with high resists, it quickly becomes a monster to kill Fortune favors the bold!!!
Proxyyyy Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.27 15:46:00 - [19] Originally by: Proxyyyy Ill agree that the vagabond is better, but by a small margin. The sacrilege unlike the vagabond has the option to fight close or at range. I quoted myself cause im so koolz... Anywayz! This is the end fit. I had certian criteria it would have to reach before flying it (its met them all). The ship must go atleast 1700m/sec (which it does), Must do 400 - 500dps (which it does) and must have a active tank comparable to that of the brutix/cyclone. Btw this is not a ship for fleets... Missile range is 24k instead of 20 (With the help of missile velocity rigs). I might even try it out with a true sansha web in the future... (Exile booster) [Sacrilege, The End] Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Small Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Warrior II x3
Amarr Supremacist	Posted - 2010.04.28 14:52:00 - [20] Originally by: Proxyyyy Originally by: Proxyyyy Ill agree that the vagabond is better, but by a small margin. The sacrilege unlike the vagabond has the option to fight close or at range. I quoted myself cause im so koolz... Anywayz! This is the end fit. I had certian criteria it would have to reach before flying it (its met them all). The ship must go atleast 1700m/sec (which it does), Must do 400 - 500dps (which it does) and must have a active tank comparable to that of the brutix/cyclone. Btw this is not a ship for fleets... Missile range is 24k instead of 20 (With the help of missile velocity rigs). I might even try it out with a true sansha web in the future... (Exile booster) [Sacrilege, The End] Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Small Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Warrior II x3 Bad fit and the quote you posted is also stupid. Stop trying, please. ____________ Intigo - go visit www.eve-arena.com for the best Battleclinic killboard replacement yet!
Indeterminacy THORN Syndicate Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2010.04.28 15:36:00 - [21] I dunno, I was excited about this ship for a bit as well (coming from a HAM cerb). Then I got to actually flying it and found myself rigging it for range, and dumping the buffer fit I had for the dual rep/cap booster fit. It's extremely difficult to fly properly against a smart opponent. If you mess up your kiting, you're dead. It's that simple. DPS is meh, range is crap. I went back to the cerb.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.04.28 15:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Bad fit and the quote you posted is also stupid. Stop trying, please. Why is this a bad solo fit? It tanks, it ganks, has a cap booster, small neut for frigs that gets close... Only changes I would make is to use different rigs (bay loading accel or something to reduce explosion radius).
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2010.04.28 18:23:00 - [23] Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Edited by: Amarr Supremacist on 24/04/2010 20:36:01 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1292338 Sakana's newest movie has some Sacrilege footage. It is also an amazing movie overall from a very competent PvP'er. The problem with the Sacrilege is it has extremely limited low slots. It runs into the same issue a dual MAR Brutix has (except not cap-wise) in that you have a very hard time balancing tank and gank - often you are forced to completely ignore (save for rigs maybe) damage mods. CCCs are generally bad on PvP fits - it has 4 mids so you could easily go MWD Scram Web and use a Cap Booster to sustain the dual MAR tank you wish to run. AB alone is a bad idea on this ship in PvP. Quick EFT warrior look to give you an idea of what I would do personally: [Sacrilege, New Setup 1] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Imperial Navy Small Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400 Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Fulmination Assault Missile Medium Bay Loading Accelerator II Medium Anti-Thermic Pump II Warrior II x3 Overloaded stats: 510 DPS tanked, 550 DPS done. You can use an EANM over the Ballistic for more tank, but I'm a gank kinda person. This alone showes how bad the Sac is.
Pheusia Gallente The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.04.28 19:24:00 - [24] Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Originally by: Proxyyyy Originally by: Proxyyyy Ill agree that the vagabond is better, but by a small margin. The sacrilege unlike the vagabond has the option to fight close or at range. I quoted myself cause im so koolz... Anywayz! This is the end fit. I had certian criteria it would have to reach before flying it (its met them all). The ship must go atleast 1700m/sec (which it does), Must do 400 - 500dps (which it does) and must have a active tank comparable to that of the brutix/cyclone. Btw this is not a ship for fleets... Missile range is 24k instead of 20 (With the help of missile velocity rigs). I might even try it out with a true sansha web in the future... (Exile booster) [Sacrilege, The End] Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Small Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Warrior II x3 Bad fit and the quote you posted is also stupid. Stop trying, please. What's bad about it? Signed, Pheusia
Henri Rearden Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.04.28 21:21:00 - [25] Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Originally by: Proxyyyy Originally by: Proxyyyy Ill agree that the vagabond is better, but by a small margin. The sacrilege unlike the vagabond has the option to fight close or at range. I quoted myself cause im so koolz... Anywayz! This is the end fit. I had certian criteria it would have to reach before flying it (its met them all). The ship must go atleast 1700m/sec (which it does), Must do 400 - 500dps (which it does) and must have a active tank comparable to that of the brutix/cyclone. Btw this is not a ship for fleets... Missile range is 24k instead of 20 (With the help of missile velocity rigs). I might even try it out with a true sansha web in the future... (Exile booster) [Sacrilege, The End] Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Small Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Torrent Assault Missile Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Warrior II x3 Bad fit and the quote you posted is also stupid. Stop trying, please. So... why exactly is it a bad fit?
Max Tux	Posted - 2010.04.28 21:32:00 - [26] surprised no-one has posted this yet best used with LG/ HG slaves [Sacrilege, sinlge rep, plate] Damage Control II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Warrior II x3 ~400 DPS ~45kEHP (no implants) ~55k (LG) ~63k (HG) 180 DPS tank (~230 Overload) can run either MWD, Neut, or MAR without needing the cap booster, 200's mean you can use neut + Rep. seems a good combination of gank, tank, and speed, considering it also has a small ish sig.
Owen Drakkar Terra Nostra	Posted - 2010.04.28 21:47:00 - [27] I can EFT warrior as well, do eeeeeet. [Sacrilege, New Setup 1] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium F-RX Prototype I Capacitor Boost, Cap Booster 800 10MN MicroWarpdrive I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Disruptor II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Warrior II x3
BuckStrider Fleem Co Honourable Templum of Alcedonia	Posted - 2010.04.28 21:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Max Tux surprised no-one has posted this yet best used with LG/ HG slaves [Sacrilege, sinlge rep, plate] Damage Control II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Medium Armor Repairer II Ballistic Control System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Warrior II x3 ~400 DPS ~45kEHP (no implants) ~55k (LG) ~63k (HG) 180 DPS tank (~230 Overload) can run either MWD, Neut, or MAR without needing the cap booster, 200's mean you can use neut + Rep. seems a good combination of gank, tank, and speed, considering it also has a small ish sig. And you still wont hit a damn thing past 20km...Any ship that can deal damage and stay outside it's pathetic range, renders it useless...There are many of these ships.
Max Tux	Posted - 2010.04.28 22:20:00 - [29] Originally by: BuckStrider And you still wont hit a damn thing past 20km...Any ship that can deal damage and stay outside it's pathetic range, renders it useless...There are many of these ships. you can say that for any ship that has <20km range, or are you saying all blaster boats, and most AC boats are now useless, as they can be outranged? by that theory everyone would be flying tach apocs
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.04.29 02:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Max Tux Originally by: BuckStrider And you still wont hit a damn thing past 20km...Any ship that can deal damage and stay outside it's pathetic range, renders it useless...There are many of these ships. you can say that for any ship that has <20km range, or are you saying all blaster boats, and most AC boats are now useless, as they can be outranged? by that theory everyone would be flying tach apocs Yeah, don't hate on my HAM Drake. Seriously though, if a Drake is a viable PvP boat (and it is, as much as people loathe to admit it), then the Sac is viable as well - even more so since it can get some good speed on it, and a Drake cannot.

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