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Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
172
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Posted - 2012.07.10 05:20:00 -
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Grandstanding? Hardly. Just a case of good old fashioned disgust served warm from the heart.
What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |

Los Muertas
Mir'Mulnir Tribe
41
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Posted - 2012.07.10 05:22:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Grandstanding? Hardly. Just a case of good old fashioned disgust served warm from the heart and not directed towards you.
Merited, in most cases. Ill see you downrange Ms Rella.
Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |

Aria Jenneth
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
113
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Posted - 2012.07.10 05:53:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:I'll concede that she is indeed doing right by this child, and I have no way to know what sort of life the child lives. Judging that she managed to place a post here, she's either an empyrean herself or someone well enough connected. In all likelihood, the family is probably rather secure.
I am honestly just disgusted by this entire affair. Relationships are taken far too casually these days.
Thank you, Oniseki-haani.
Truth to tell, I don't disagree. A sexual relationship is something precious to be kept in private between two people, and ideally to last a lifetime. A one-night stand is not a thing to admire. However, chatting and/or boozing a relative innocent into compliance, then leaving her with a lifetime of regret (not to mention shame, sometimes to the point of suicide), is a game certain men have played as long as there have been women to prey on. I'm sure that all the high honor and culture of the Raata didn't slow them measurably.
And the social game of torturing the girl thus deceived has lasted just as long. This isn't anything new, just an old tale retold once more.
Personally, I say we put the hound's share of the blame on the hound; as often happens, his victim's received all the punishment she merits and then some. There but for the grace of not meeting the wrong cute boy while young, drunk, and stupid go we all.
I was serious about that knife, by the way.
We should be kind with other women who have been badly treated. The world at large will not be. |

Los Muertas
Mir'Mulnir Tribe
41
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Posted - 2012.07.10 05:57:00 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:
We should be kind with other women who have been badly treated. The world at large will not be.
I only have so much money and even less of a charitable nature.
Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |

Natalcya Katla
Naqam Shaktipat Revelators
9
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Posted - 2012.07.10 05:59:00 -
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Children are the future. Why weigh them down with parents? |

Aria Jenneth
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
113
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Posted - 2012.07.10 06:04:00 -
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Los Muertas wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:
We should be kind with other women who have been badly treated. The world at large will not be.
I only have so much money and even less of a charitable nature.
You misunderstand my use of the word "other," Mr. Muertas. Bear in mind who I was addressing.
I'm not talking about setting up a charity, just refraining from adding to the troubles of women who already have plenty. |

Los Muertas
Mir'Mulnir Tribe
41
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Posted - 2012.07.10 06:11:00 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Los Muertas wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:
We should be kind with other women who have been badly treated. The world at large will not be.
I only have so much money and even less of a charitable nature. You misunderstand my use of the word "other," Mr. Muertas. Bear in mind who I was addressing. I'm not talking about setting up a charity, just refraining from adding to the troubles of women who already have plenty.
I understand Ms Jenneth. By the way, to Ms Kat, the mother in question. I will need a response soon or i will retract my offer as I am beginning to wonder if this was a genuine call for help, or a call for attention.
Addendum: Katla you are a Moron Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |

Aria Jenneth
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
113
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Posted - 2012.07.10 06:26:00 -
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Natalcya Katla wrote:Children are the future. Why weigh them down with parents?
... Natalcya ... I'm going to do you the courtesy of presuming that you didn't run fast enough and those are the implants talking.
Oh, right. Your mother. Scratch that.
Fine. Let's do a quick comparison-contrast. You had an over-busy and largely absentee mother. That's scarring, obviously enough.
I got a bit wider sampling: Mother was weak, Grandfather was cold, Father was ... well, Father. Grandmother was, and presumably still is, maternal yet tyrannical.
I would have preferred any of them, maybe even Father, to the creche. Even a boarding school doesn't compare to the sense of isolation, of being fundamentally alone in a crowded room.
Mr. Muertas:
Give her a bit, pilot. You only made that offer a few hours ago; we don't even know whether she has easy access here. |

Kat Valja
Ishukone Maintenance
0
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Posted - 2012.07.10 07:17:00 -
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I am not trying to say I did not make mistakes when i was younger but I have tried to be a good mother to my boy and just because I was stupid to beleive what a man told me doesn't make me a bad person. Some of you might say I am after money but it is only seeing how much my son wants to know his father as he gets older that is my reason to try and find him. Maybe some of you never made a mistake in your life and mayeb you are right to say it is all my fault but this is not about me it is about my boy.
I realise reading what people said that I did not think to say very much about what I do know about my son's father, he said he was training to be a capsule pilot and he was already some other kind of pilot for Ishukone. He was tall and had dark hair and came from Lonetrek or at least had that accent and he is Caldari. If he is still alive I suppose.
Mr Muertas you are very generous but I am not here for money and I won't tell my son that I gave up trying to find his father for him because of money and I don't think that just because you killed a lot of people to SAVE your own child that means someone would want to hurt HIS own child but maybe the stuff they say about pilots is true. But my son is a good boy and kind so I don't think his father could be a real monster like you say.
Thank you to the people who were nice about this. Like I said I know I made a mistake but being dumb one time doesn't mean a person is bad even if they might be stupid. |

Los Muertas
Mir'Mulnir Tribe
41
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Posted - 2012.07.10 07:28:00 -
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Kat Valja wrote: Mr Muertas you are very generous but I am not here for money and I won't tell my son that I gave up trying to find his father for him because of money and I don't think that just because you killed a lot of people to SAVE your own child that means someone would want to hurt HIS own child but maybe the stuff they say about pilots is true. But my son is a good boy and kind so I don't think his father could be a real monster like you say.
My children are good girls, they obey, they listen they will be better then the sum of their mother and most assuredly their father. They love me and it would break their heart to know what their sun is capable of, but I am a monster and this was what I am trying to express to you, the duality of human nature and the over pronouncement of that nature in this community. I hope my girls never look to hard at their father, they wont like what they see and the same may be true for your son. I hope I am wrong, but just know that a child who has grown up with their parents is looking out from the house, those who dont and find that person later are looking in on the house and that house never actually looks like home.
My offer stands, and if you do find something in the shadows that turns on you, I pledge this Tribes support to make safe your son. Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |
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Natalcya Katla
Naqam Shaktipat Revelators
10
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Posted - 2012.07.10 07:44:00 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:... Natalcya ... I'm going to do you the courtesy of presuming that you didn't run fast enough and those are the implants talking.
Oh, right. Your mother. Scratch that.
Fine. Let's do a quick comparison-contrast. You had an over-busy and largely absentee mother. That's scarring, obviously enough.
I got a bit wider sampling: Mother was weak, Grandfather was cold, Father was ... well, Father. Grandmother was, and presumably still is, maternal yet tyrannical.
I would have preferred any of them, maybe even Father, to the creche. Even a boarding school doesn't compare to the sense of isolation, of being fundamentally alone in a crowded room.
You left out "lying", "presumptive" and "treasonous" in your description of her. And...
...and you really went through hell yourself. Yes, I know. Fine.
Mlle Valja: Every new capsuleer is profiled and registered by the DED. There are a few people in Yulai who still owe me a favor or two from the old days, believe it or not.
I will make an inquiry on your behalf, if you wish it. I can't promise results, but every detail you can tell me about him will make the search go quicker and easier. The details you've already provided will be helpful. Anything else you might remember could prove valuable, too. Even the fake name he gave you. |

Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party Federal Consensus Outreach
24
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Posted - 2012.07.10 07:44:00 -
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This forum is a popular one amongst the peoples, perhaps the individual responsible will see it and step forwards to do his duty.
Family is the building block of our society. The family unit is what makes society strong, and if family values are weak, society is weak. Furthermore, a man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man. Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station |

Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
380
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Posted - 2012.07.10 11:10:00 -
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I have been watching this thread without responding because unfortunately there is very little I can do to assist and well-wishes seem empty. However, as I've continued to watch it, it occurs to me that maybe some kindness is better than abject silence.
It is good that you are courageous enough to admit certain mistakes of your past and that you have the integrity to face those mistakes and their consequences. That you have attempted to be a mother rather than abandon the child also speaks highly of you.
As stated, there is very little (if anything) that I can do to assist you in this search, except to extend sincere wishes that perhaps something will present itself that will lead to finding the father, or the father stepping forward. I do not know all of the details of what happened apart from what you've provided, so I will withhold judgment from either you or the father and instead spend my energy in hoping the situation is resolved in a way that is most beneficial to the child.
Ancestors bless your search and Winds guide your inquiry. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
705
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:15:00 -
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Kat Valja wrote:he said he was training to be a capsule pilot and he was already some other kind of pilot for Ishukone. He was tall and had dark hair and came from Lonetrek or at least had that accent and he is Caldari. If he is still alive I suppose.
Now you have my attention. I would like you to send me a mail with everything you know about him. I want to know where he claimed he came from, what his fake name was, and any nicknames he tended to carry. I'll also need a detailed list of distinguishing features such as eye color, tattoos, height, weight, skintone, bloodline, ancestry, date of birth... anything and everything you can tell me.
If this man is in I-RED, he will answer for this.
EDIT: Oh, and you should probably dig up your corporate certificate of birth for the child. You're going to need that. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
301
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:27:00 -
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Does not the State, or at least the Megacorps, keep genetic databases of all employees?
I'd wager the father probably doesn't want to be found, and has taken action to ensure this through bribery or other means.
Considering what he'd be coming home to, can we really blame him?
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
705
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:37:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Does not the State, or at least the Megacorps, keep genetic databases of all employees?
Yes, they do.
Ishukone could probably identify the pilot by comparing recorded Capsuleer DNA to that of the child's within hours or days of starting. The problem is that whoever he is, he's now protected from litigation under CONCORD regulation. None of those regulations state he must support his bastard child.
Even if Ishukone decides to choose in favor of the mother, the megacorp still cannot do anything but strongly demand the pilot do whatever it is they think is best. The absolute worst Ishukone can do is terminate his employment.
Why would he bother with bribery if nothing can touch him? |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
301
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:47:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:Does not the State, or at least the Megacorps, keep genetic databases of all employees?
Yes, they do. Ishukone could probably identify the pilot by comparing recorded Capsuleer DNA to that of the child's within hours or days of starting. The problem is that whoever he is, he's now protected from litigation under CONCORD regulation. None of those regulations state he must support his bastard child. Even if Ishukone decides to choose in favor of the mother, the megacorp still cannot do anything but strongly demand the pilot do whatever it is they think is best. The absolute worst Ishukone can do is terminate his employment. Why would he bother with bribery if nothing can touch him?
Well, we all know how rigid CONCORD regulations are, and how they are never broken or bent under the weight of bribery or influence.
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
705
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Posted - 2012.07.10 13:47:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:Does not the State, or at least the Megacorps, keep genetic databases of all employees?
Yes, they do. Ishukone could probably identify the pilot by comparing recorded Capsuleer DNA to that of the child's within hours or days of starting. The problem is that whoever he is, he's now protected from litigation under CONCORD regulation. None of those regulations state he must support his bastard child. Even if Ishukone decides to choose in favor of the mother, the megacorp still cannot do anything but strongly demand the pilot do whatever it is they think is best. The absolute worst Ishukone can do is terminate his employment. Why would he bother with bribery if nothing can touch him? Well, we all know how rigid CONCORD regulations are, and how they are never broken or bent under the weight of bribery or influence.
True. |

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
317
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Posted - 2012.07.10 14:09:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Silas Vitalia wrote:Well, we all know how rigid CONCORD regulations are, and how they are never broken or bent under the weight of bribery or influence.
True.
Alternatively, if he is indeed a capsuleer, you could just threaten him with the prospect of spending more on fresh medical clones and implants than he'd have to pay in child support for a couple tens of his abandoned offspring.
Considering the average conversion rate between ISK and planetary currencies, you'd think the one-time equivalent of a single SCC tax "tick" on a CONCORD bounty payout would be a rather attractive option. |

Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
101
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Posted - 2012.07.11 21:12:00 -
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Kat Valja wrote:[..]he was already some other kind of pilot for Ishukone. He was tall and had dark hair and came from Lonetrek or at least had that accent and he is Caldari. If he is still alive I suppose. Hmm. Did he look something like this?

I'm sorry, I do care about you're well being, Ms. Valja, and I hope you'll forgive my lightheartedness and amusement in knowing that I was at least half serious with my suggestion.
Peace,
-Ch+¬ Biko Join in game channel/mailing list: New Eden Racing Sub-warp racing event thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107164 |
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Makkal Hanaya
Hanaya Deferment Co
243
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Posted - 2012.07.11 21:35:00 -
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Kat Valja wrote:nine years ago I had one night of love with a man I thought loved me only to be cruelly abandoned to raise our child alone. Now my son wants to know his father but all I know is that he was training to be a pilot when we shared our breif ectasy. i have promised him I will find his father for him even though the name he gave me was a fake.
Someone among you must know who this man is, even maybe you are that man yourself. Show a bit of compassion for the woman and child you abandoned and speak up.
Can you give us a description at least?
His race? How tall he was? Was he older? Did he recently become a capsuleer?
With this description, the man could be my brother and I wouldn't be able to tell.
Katrina Oniseki wrote:The short of this post is this:
Learn a man's name before bedding him, and wear protection if you are unprepared for children. Addendum: Get a once a year injection. They're cheap, or free, harmless, and you'll never forget to use it due to chemical recreation. I know women who aren't even sexually active who get the shot during their annual check-up.
I assume that's easily available in the State.
Scherezad wrote:You both presume that she didn't use protection.
Unless they use sheep intestine condoms in the State, I assume she didn't use protection. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Makkal Hanaya
Hanaya Deferment Co
243
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Posted - 2012.07.11 22:07:00 -
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I find this forum amusing at times.
One second I see people decrying a woman for being drunken and promiscuous, the next they're vowing to hunt down the traitorous knave who wronged her and is currently using all his influence to stop justice being done.
More than likely, he doesn't remember that night, wouldn't remember the woman's name if he met her face to face, and has no idea that he has a child. I doubt he'll resist paying a small amount of ISK to support the boy, but what the mother wants is 'a father' for her child.
My suggestion is that she find a suitable man to have a long term relationship with and let that be the child's father. I question whether a random capsuleer with no emotional ties to her or the boy would make a good father. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Eloise Tier
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.07.12 08:51:00 -
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If rumours are to be believed, it sounds like something Jude would do.
Come on Mr. Kopenhagen, step up. |

Kalaratiri
Skadi's Call Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
197
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:32:00 -
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Eloise Tier wrote:If rumours are to be believed, it sounds like something Jude would do.
Come on Mr. Kopenhagen, step up.
Jude doesn't have nearly enough hair. |

Ava Starfire
Skadi's Call Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
336
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:00:00 -
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Kazzzi wrote:Wasn't me this time.
He says this to all the girls. |

Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:40:00 -
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The guy had hair, that means it wasn't me! |

Kailea Shandrasekkar
Chor Aurea
1
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:09:00 -
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Kat Valja wrote:Someone among you must know who this man is, even maybe you are that man yourself. Show a bit of compassion for the woman and child you abandoned and speak up.
Ms. Valja, you're accessing Galnet directly, not using a proxy capsuleer or similar. So i suppose you're a fellow capsuleer now as well. So maybe you should try a more capsuleer-like approach.
Amass money and power. Get the right connections. Bribe DNA sample database administrators. Obtain info and directions. Then hire a merc corporation to hunt him down.
Straightforward, clear-cut capsuleer business. |

Makkal Hanaya
Hanaya Deferment Co
245
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Posted - 2012.07.12 20:33:00 -
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To be sure: Randomly posting personal matters in widely-read public venues is also a capsuleer-like approach. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Kalaratiri
Skadi's Call Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
200
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Posted - 2012.07.13 09:42:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:To be sure: Randomly posting personal matters in widely-read public venues is also a capsuleer-like approach.
To be honest.. yes. Yes it is. |

Jude Kopenhagen
Stormcrows
0
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:56:00 -
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Eloise Tier wrote:If rumours are to be believed, it sounds like something Jude would do.
Come on Mr. Kopenhagen, step up.
You have been listening to the wrong rumours Miss Tier.
From what Miss Valja is saying, this pilot would have been around at the time when the capsule and cloning were combined.
That does not leave that many options. |
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