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Sedilis Lead Farmers	Posted - 2010.04.27 11:49:00 - [1] There are a lot of candidates saying they want to improve low sec without any real plan of how they would do so. Perhaps the candidates who truly are representing the denizens of this fine corner of the Eve would like to link their campaign thread here so we can see who we might vote for
Ran Khanon Amarr Vengeance Innovations	Posted - 2010.04.27 11:55:00 - [2] Kale Kold's thread Help us to make parrots game related today!
Swiftgaze Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.27 13:44:00 - [3] VOTE CAT ELYSIUM VOTES CAT
Musical Fist Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.04.27 13:49:00 - [4] Originally by: Swiftgaze VOTE CAT ELYSIUM VOTES CAT Fix sig!! This is so not my main
Roastedpot Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.27 15:09:00 - [5] well, there is Mynxee
King Gore Sword and Pistol	Posted - 2010.04.27 15:11:00 - [6] The issue with lo sec is that there is no money there. What money is there is in moons. This needs to be changed. The sov. system upgrades in Dominion were great, I think. This needs to be expanded to lo sec as well. This can be done with passive system upgrades taking place at down time. This will enable any one be able to come down and make a difference in their home system. These upgrades will mirror the way 0.0 upgrades work, only in a more passive way. Mining, ratting, plexing etc. Sorry I'm repeating a bit, just wanting to make sure I'm clear. Unfortunately I haven't lived in lo sec for too long, but this is what I am seeing. There also needs to be a revisit of some of the least populated regions and figure out why they are like that. But from what I've heard it is generally a lack of resources. With my system this will encourage people to get up and go out and carve up a piece for themselves. Also, security status hits from aggression. I am in no way calling for it to be removed. But it does need to be revisited. I feel the that pod hits are way to high and should be halved. Also, ship aggression (how small of a hit it may be), should be halved as well. This will give people additional chances to pew pew without destroying their sec status (so they can return to hi sec). Right now Lo sec is a pure PvP zone. If you want the community to join you then you must make it a community. In this way it's profitable for every one and doesn't cost any one anything, well except what you lose. _____________ \|Blood::Farmer\| - I have a rage, but it's not hatred. It's just illuminated.
Mutnin Amarr Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.04.27 15:36:00 - [7] Originally by: King Gore The issue with lo sec is that there is no money there. What money is there is in moons. This needs to be changed. The sov. system upgrades in Dominion were great, I think. This needs to be expanded to lo sec as well. This can be done with passive system upgrades taking place at down time. This will enable any one be able to come down and make a difference in their home system. These upgrades will mirror the way 0.0 upgrades work, only in a more passive way. Mining, ratting, plexing etc. Sorry I'm repeating a bit, just wanting to make sure I'm clear. Unfortunately I haven't lived in lo sec for too long, but this is what I am seeing. There also needs to be a revisit of some of the least populated regions and figure out why they are like that. But from what I've heard it is generally a lack of resources. With my system this will encourage people to get up and go out and carve up a piece for themselves. Also, security status hits from aggression. I am in no way calling for it to be removed. But it does need to be revisited. I feel the that pod hits are way to high and should be halved. Also, ship aggression (how small of a hit it may be), should be halved as well. This will give people additional chances to pew pew without destroying their sec status (so they can return to hi sec). Right now Lo sec is a pure PvP zone. If you want the community to join you then you must make it a community. In this way it's profitable for every one and doesn't cost any one anything, well except what you lose. There is plenty of ISK in low sec and it's not just moons. Cosmic sigs make good money and FW missions have likely added too much ISK potential into low sec. I hate to say it, but I almost think the FW missions have hurt low sec in many ways by putting too much ISK that easily accessible. Back when I was originally in FW the average player didn't make a lot of ISK, but they PVP'ed a lot in cheap ships. If you saw a carrier in a fight is was a big deal and it was rare to see the FTM pimp mobiles everywhere. Now looking at the FW KB's every other ship is T2, faction and there are now FW corps capable of dropping 5+ carriers into a fights, just from a single corp. It's actually gotten a bit silly TBH. I used to also think that the solution to fixing low sec was adding more ISK. I think in the end, more ISK will cause more problems. More ISK will keep pushing the whole blob vs blob thing because it will always be more beneficial to have more numbers to secure that ISK source. I'm not sure what to do to fix the problems, but it seems like everything just keeps pushing the blob vs blob mentality.
King Gore Sword and Pistol	Posted - 2010.04.27 17:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Mutnin Originally by: King Gore mine stuff I can see the money in FW/cosmic sigs, but what about mining? What about system upgrades? Do you think would introduce too much isk and encourage more blobbing? I admit, I'm strapped for ideas for solo combat without gimping this game to single player. _____________ \|Blood::Farmer\| - I have a rage, but it's not hatred. It's just illuminated.
Kale Kold Caldari V i r u s	Posted - 2010.04.27 17:46:00 - [9] I think what we need is an overall re-balancing of everything in hisec and lowsec. A little less in highsec and a little more in lowsec. Not too much mind, but just enough to make people actually want to visit lowsec. Service Record \| Battle Record
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.27 18:12:00 - [10] FW missions suck, they make so much ISK (10-15 missions solo = Navy Scorp) and are so easily doable that all it takes is 1 inty and a stealth bomber to do every mission, likely completing it well before any enemies turn up (and running away if they do) Plexs CAN make a decent amount of ISK but are so few and far between (inbetween all the junk, and there's a lot of junk) that it takes a while to find one worth doing. Wormholes are decent ISK too but that's a whole different story. Last time it felt like there was anywhere worth going in low-sec (other than to the next gate or station) was when static plexs existed. There would almost ALWAYS be people trying to run those as they made a decent bit of ISK and they were great spots for piracy and the like too. Sad day when they got removed - Malyutka (The Virus) -
The Crushah Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.04.27 18:13:00 - [11] Way too many people running this time who want to turn Eve into Happy Magic Rainbow and Unicorn Farts online. Bottom line: If any aspect of PvP is nerfed in game, if I can no longer suicide gank, if concord is brought to low sec as some moron suggested in another thread, if Eve is changed from the cold hard world it is, im probably gone. The nature of this game is why I chose it over all the other MMO's out there. If you dont like how the game is played, you can go back to fellating each other in Second Life.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.04.27 18:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Mutnin I hate to say it, but I almost think the FW missions have hurt low sec in many ways by putting too much ISK that easily accessible. I'm not certain that FW has hurt low sec because of the ISK available, but I am certain that it has hurt low sec PvP because of the large roaming blobs. I'm also pretty annoyed by bombers doing L4 missions with zero risk for the reward. Well, zero risk until I get my 60+km point Arazu... There have been several really good threads in the past that talk about low sec and have ideas on what is wrong and what can be fixed to make it more accessible to players, balance out the risk/reward, encourage small scale PvP, and give it some real in-game flavor. Pirate Dialemma - A general discussion on why high sec critters don't want to enter low sec, and what can be done about it. Lana's New bounty System - A rework of the bounty system may be an indirect boost to low sec. Liang's Observations on Low Sec Space - Really just a risk/reward thread, and a short one at that, but worth a glance. Expansion Outlaw - Which has some ideas on adding some flavor and unique activities to low sec space. There's a few others that I vaguely remember, but I can't find them. Anyway... For those who would like to represent the low-sec pirate community, those threads might be worth a look.
Mynxee Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.27 19:28:00 - [13] My campaign message is here. Questions and comments are most welcome there--I'd prefer to keep all the dialog in one place for ease of reference by other players. Might be a couple of days before I can respond in any substantive way; work deadlines are beating the crap out of me. @Andrea: I've read all of those posts you linked (and am due for a refresher as it's been awhile for a couple of them). There are great ideas being discussed and ideas proposed in them, so recommended reading for everyone who lives in or cares about low sec. Thanks for making access to them easy for everyone. Life In Low Sec
King Gore Sword and Pistol	Posted - 2010.04.27 20:58:00 - [14] Edited by: King Gore on 27/04/2010 21:01:12 Originally by: Andrea Griffin Originally by: Mutnin I hate to say it, but I almost think the FW missions have hurt low sec in many ways by putting too much ISK that easily accessible. I'm not certain that FW has hurt low sec because of the ISK available, but I am certain that it has hurt low sec PvP because of the large roaming blobs. I'm also pretty annoyed by bombers doing L4 missions with zero risk for the reward. Well, zero risk until I get my 60+km point Arazu... There have been several really good threads in the past that talk about low sec and have ideas on what is wrong and what can be fixed to make it more accessible to players, balance out the risk/reward, encourage small scale PvP, and give it some real in-game flavor. Pirate Dialemma - A general discussion on why high sec critters don't want to enter low sec, and what can be done about it. Lana's New bounty System - A rework of the bounty system may be an indirect boost to low sec. Liang's Observations on Low Sec Space - Really just a risk/reward thread, and a short one at that, but worth a glance. Expansion Outlaw - Which has some ideas on adding some flavor and unique activities to low sec space. There's a few others that I vaguely remember, but I can't find them. Anyway... For those who would like to represent the low-sec pirate community, those threads might be worth a look. I really liked the Outlaw Expansion thread. Especially about the part where all empire factions are split by lo sec. Originally by: Mynxee My campaign message is here. Questions and comments are most welcome there--I'd prefer to keep all the dialog in one place for ease of reference by other players. Might be a couple of days before I can respond in any substantive way; work deadlines are beating the crap out of me. @Andrea: I've read all of those posts you linked (and am due for a refresher as it's been awhile for a couple of them). There are great ideas being discussed and ideas proposed in them, so recommended reading for everyone who lives in or cares about low sec. Thanks for making access to them easy for everyone. After reading your proposal I am leaning more towards supporting you. _____________ \|Blood::Farmer\| - I have a rage, but it's not hatred. It's just illuminated.
Harrigan VonStudly Gallente Isk Relocation Services	Posted - 2010.04.27 22:35:00 - [15] Originally by: The Crushah Way too many people running this time who want to turn Eve into Happy Magic Rainbow and Unicorn Farts online. Bottom line: If any aspect of PvP is nerfed in game, if I can no longer suicide gank, if concord is brought to low sec as some moron suggested in another thread, if Eve is changed from the cold hard world it is, im probably gone. The nature of this game is why I chose it over all the other MMO's out there. If you dont like how the game is played, you can go back to fellating each other in Second Life. ^^ This. There's too many fairies in the game now. All mining and mission corps should have hairy ball sacks placed in their hangars to be reminded of what a pair is. Wanna nerf something? Nerf the homo local contract spammers and leave our beloved peeveepee alone.
Boom Shankar	Posted - 2010.04.28 05:42:00 - [16] I'm not sure if Low sec needs more ISK. Fwar missions are good for the guys running those and how can we forget wormholes. C3 wormholes and some C2 and C4. These are a great source of ISK and C2 can be run solo while C3 can be run solo or with 2-3 ships and you make a good amount of ISK. That's what we did while the 22nd was in Hyk between 0.0. However it does need a boost in order to bring more players in, not just upping the ISK. Mining in low sec has to be more profitable than mining in High Sec. There risk is insane, granted, but right there is the risk with less reward. Someone said low sec upgrades. These could exist without any form of structures and be what upgraded 0.0 is like if you only have the rating upped without any upgrade structures.
Kale Kold Caldari V i r u s	Posted - 2010.04.28 11:31:00 - [17] Edited by: Kale Kold on 28/04/2010 11:31:19 Originally by: The Crushah Way too many people running this time who want to turn Eve into Happy Magic Rainbow and Unicorn Farts online. Bottom line: If any aspect of PvP is nerfed in game, if I can no longer suicide gank, if concord is brought to low sec as some moron suggested in another thread, if Eve is changed from the cold hard world it is, im probably gone. The nature of this game is why I chose it over all the other MMO's out there. If you dont like how the game is played, you can go back to fellating each other in Second Life. This is exactly why i am running this year! Vote for me and i'll give em hell! I'll be releasing a full manifesto near to voting time. Service Record \| Battle Record
Mutnin Amarr Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.04.28 12:54:00 - [18] Edited by: Mutnin on 28/04/2010 12:57:46 Originally by: Andrea Griffin Originally by: Mutnin I hate to say it, but I almost think the FW missions have hurt low sec in many ways by putting too much ISK that easily accessible. I'm not certain that FW has hurt low sec because of the ISK available, but I am certain that it has hurt low sec PvP because of the large roaming blobs. I'm also pretty annoyed by bombers doing L4 missions with zero risk for the reward. Well, zero risk until I get my 60+km point Arazu... There have been several really good threads in the past that talk about low sec and have ideas on what is wrong and what can be fixed to make it more accessible to players, balance out the risk/reward, encourage small scale PvP, and give it some real in-game flavor. Pirate Dialemma - A general discussion on why high sec critters don't want to enter low sec, and what can be done about it. Lana's New bounty System - A rework of the bounty system may be an indirect boost to low sec. Liang's Observations on Low Sec Space - Really just a risk/reward thread, and a short one at that, but worth a glance. Expansion Outlaw - Which has some ideas on adding some flavor and unique activities to low sec space. There's a few others that I vaguely remember, but I can't find them. Anyway... For those who would like to represent the low-sec pirate community, those threads might be worth a look. Well the blobs have hurt low sec with out question. It's become blob or be blobbed which is always going to get worse and worse. What can be done about it at this point I have no clue. If it was up to me, I'd have a gate jump delay if more than 10 people jumped through it with in 30 seconds from the same corp/alliance or militia. However that would make a lot of blobbers emo rage quit most likely. How about for miners, put "all" empire ICE belts in low sec..
Hallan Turrek Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.05.02 08:52:00 - [19] Only one candidate can truly represent the interests of lowsec and that's Mynxee. ________________________________________ A merry life and a short one shall be my motto. Bartholomew Roberts Check out my blog.

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