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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.04.29 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn So you're facilitating natural selection and the evolution of the cosmos? Fascinating.
But of course. This is very premise of my Faith, ignorant Infidel. And as such, of course it's fascinating. How obvious.
Revan Neferis Thrice-illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
ôThe Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason; but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of the Gods.ö |
Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.29 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Lyris Nairn on 29/04/2010 19:55:48
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Lyris Nairn So you're facilitating natural selection and the evolution of the cosmos? Fascinating.
But of course. This is very premise of my Faith, ignorant Infidel. And as such, of course it's fascinating. How obvious.
Please feel free to share the depth and scope of your Faith. I have suddenly found myself with ample time for reading.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.04.29 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn Please feel free to share the depth and scope of your Faith.
No, that's forbidden. Only the Initiated gets to know the depth and scope of my faith. However, you can start by seeking knowledge on the Sani Sabik Protocols and how do we use to put our rituals into practice.
Originally by: Lyris Nairn I have suddenly found myself with ample time for reading.
That's good. Reading is food for the soul, specially reading the Illuminati texts. Let's see if your presence here will not be totally wasted after all.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
ôThe Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason; but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of the Gods.ö |
Syyl'ara
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.04.29 20:47:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Jade Constantine My lover has chosen to make war on a Caldari corporation because she didn't appreciate the spectacle of the mouthpiece littering IGS with more meaningless prattle. It is her choice to do so just as its my choice to speak my mind on these issues.
Just as its my choice to identify her as a tyrant for doing so and now, in turn, you as a mouthpiece of tyrants.
Quote: I have no sympathy for the weak ms Syyl'ara and through the expression of my political philosophy in the True Knowledge you should see that clearly. If this person is so weak as to be damaged as consequence of unwise statements on galnet then she should take steps to become stronger or else learn to temper a blend of diplomacy into her public speaking.
You can speak of diplomacy in public discourse maybe after engaging in it, yourself.
Either that or add hypocrite to the list.
Quote: I suggested if she truly regretted the consequence her words have created she might consider an apology. It means little to me or my lover at this point. All in anarchy is personal responsibility - deeds have consequences. It is well for the Galnet generation of nationalists to learn this.
You are not arbiter of what is unwise or not. Many people are capable of responding to criticism with civility, so it is not some immutable natural law of physics that now threatens, it is the rationale of a pack of narcissists who are so damaged by the idea someone doesn't behold them as "golden calves" to be only praised, lest death take you.
Quote: And now I know you have not read the True Knowledge. Might does make right and Power does make Freedom.
Might makes tyrants and power corrupts, I'm not sure what reality you've been vacationing in.
Or is it more like might being used by other people is bad, but if SF or allies use it, its justified and power corrupts the big state entities only and SF and allies are immune to such?
Quote: Learn something of my philosophy before you think to make criticism of its implementation.
Your rhetoric over this period of late echoes nationalist talking points more and more. You denounce the application of coercive force in CVA standings systems, but turn a blind eye to bloodshed because of a bruised ego.
I know philosophy well enough to identify clear double standards in the application of those philosophies.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.04.29 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine The truth of love is that it obeys no rules, no constraint, there is no logic or reason, the landscape of passion is without map or navigation and dark language our only guide and hope. I am lost beyond redemption yet utterly free of any fear but loss of loverÆs touch and secret whisper in the depths of night.
Two hearts are as one heart and this one heart has two As long as this heart beats I will love only you Time slips away, it fades away so we must live today My heart beats for you my love And your heart beats for me
It's time to bring here this piece of universal truth and bath senses again on its delight and power. A few pages of distraction cannot separate the meaning of the message from its only intent.
More than ever, my heart is beating for you.
Yours Revan
ôThe Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason; but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of the Gods.ö |
Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.29 22:26:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Revan Neferis
More than ever, my heart is beating for you.
One wonders what all that heart could accomplish if it was put to other uses.
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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.29 23:24:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Revan Neferis
More than ever, my heart is beating for you.
One wonders what all that heart could accomplish if it was put to other uses.
Your obsession towards Lady Neferi's words of love to her lover is becoming a bit too much. One could start to think that the whole matter here is that you have repressed romantic expectations towards the Sovereign. You wouldn't be the first to suffer and even die from such obsession but I strongly suggest that you to take a deep breath and retreat before trailing the same familiar path.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.04.30 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Syyl'ara Might makes tyrants and power corrupts, I'm not sure what reality you've been vacationing in. Or is it more like might being used by other people is bad, but if SF or allies use it, its justified and power corrupts the big state entities only and SF and allies are immune to such?
Weakness encourages tyrants. Lack of power makes you the victim to them. Those who worship the power embodied in a state or empire perpetuate their slavery to the status quo. But an individual seeking power and might to better secure and protect their own independence? This is the most wonderful expression of political ideal we can see.
Quote: Your rhetoric over this period of late echoes nationalist talking points more and more. You denounce the application of coercive force in CVA standings systems, but turn a blind eye to bloodshed because of a bruised ego. I know philosophy well enough to identify clear double standards in the application of those philosophies.
You think I should intervene to prevent the "bloodshed" here? Why? What is this Caldari speaker to me? Do I know benefit to protect a nationalist from the consequences of her unwise comments? Why should her fate concern me at all. You name me a hypocrit (such an easy slur well practised and oiled from the nationalist sheaf) and yet you cannot tell me why my belief that sovereign individuals conduct their own diplomacy and stand up to consequences of their actions is in any way a contradiction to the True Knowledge I live my life by.
La! So often the way with galnet debate in these times.
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Anabella Rella
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.04.30 05:30:00 -
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I'd promised myself that I'd waste no more time on the meat puppet Lyris Nairn, but....what the hell. I'm bored at the moment.
Nairn I think what you need is a good night of passion with the man or woman of your choice. Yep, you need to get your noggin banged against the headboard for about an hour or so to awaken whatever tiny amount of humanity still exists in your hollow soul.
You'd probably have to pay someone to do the deed at first, but I'm sure that even you could find someone if you offer enough isk.
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Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.04.30 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Weakness encourages tyrants. Lack of power makes you the victim to them. Those who worship the power embodied in a state or empire perpetuate their slavery to the status quo. But an individual seeking power and might to better secure and protect their own independence? This is the most wonderful expression of political ideal we can see.
People who seek power encourage weakness.
Power is relative. If you have acquire more power than your neighbour, your neighbour will become weaker. A reality where everyone has enough power to discourage tyrants is a society where everyone has an equal amount of power. However, that is not a society you seek, you seek to increase your own power at the expense of others, descreasing the odds that you will become a victim but increasing the odds that you will become a tyrant. ____
The Illusion of Freedom | The Truth about Slavery |
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Xina Tutor
Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.04.30 11:42:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Two hearts are as one heart and this one heart has two As long as this heart beats I will love only you Time slips away, it fades away so we must live today My heart beats for you my love And your heart beats for me
Things never did work out all that well for Kai and Xev tho...
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.30 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Anabella Rella I'd promised myself that I'd waste no more time on the meat puppet Lyris Nairn, but....what the hell. I'm bored at the moment.
Nairn I think what you need is a good night of passion with the man or woman of your choice. Yep, you need to get your noggin banged against the headboard for about an hour or so to awaken whatever tiny amount of humanity still exists in your hollow soul.
You'd probably have to pay someone to do the deed at first, but I'm sure that even you could find someone if you offer enough isk.
Good luck!
You just can't talk without trying to sound derisive, can you?
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.04.30 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Blanche Genevre Your obsession towards Lady Neferi's words of love to her lover is becoming a bit too much. One could start to think that the whole matter here is that you have repressed romantic expectations towards the Sovereign. You wouldn't be the first to suffer and even die from such obsession but I strongly suggest that you to take a deep breath and retreat before trailing the same familiar path.
All but this. Although it doesn't surprise me as why IGS readers could drive the same conclusions. Quoting my words of love to Jade was just sick, I have no disagreements with you there. Let's just say let's hope you're wrong this time. None of the capsuleers taking this path ever had a happy end and they all started like this. Heart kills more than lasers and words.
Originally by: Jade Constantine You think I should intervene to prevent the "bloodshed" here?
Strange that the puppet thinks so. Even more strange to think that anyone could intervene when I do whatever I do and its my will to do so. Laughable the least.
But as you said, La! Such is the way of galnet riders-only and their empty arguments.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
ôThe Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason; but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of the Gods.ö |
Syyl'ara
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.04.30 13:50:00 -
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The capability to be ruthless is not proportional to the accuracy of a person's statements, but if you really feel the need to regress about 8000 years in philosophical evolution, go right ahead. In fact, I'd dare say the the social models advocated by the most ruthless are far from what society would readily accept and in many cases aren't even realistically sustainable.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.04.30 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth Power is relative.
No it's not and we well know it. Power is I can, you can't. Might is Right and individual power is simply power enough to do what you will. It's in my power to do all that I will in this Universe. If I want, I claim. If I want, I act, If I desire, I have.
This is the only power that matters and as an ancient philosopher has spoken: It's not who is going to let me, the question is, who is going to stop me?
This is power. What is relative is simply the way one uses it. Do you have the power to go against the values and morals you so much despise and do something about it? Do you have the power to make your Will prevail?
Power is not relative Infidel and the reason why you'll never understand this is because you have given your power away to an imaginary God. You have forgotten how to even express or see what power represents and feels and its true meaning.
You have walked a step away from illusion by leaving that tainted, unholy empty entity you once belonged to. You seek illumination, I can feel it.
Drop your old concepts and manners, stop living in the shadows of others and claim your power amidst the stars. The Sani Sabik can teach you how. It's the right of all true Amarr to return to the true religion, untainted. Don't waste your potential as a nobody. There's still time.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
ôThe Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason; but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of the Gods.ö |
Anabella Rella
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.04.30 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn
You just can't talk without trying to sound derisive, can you?
Yes, I'm quite capable of doing so, but I'm making an exception in your case as I find you completely reprehensible.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.04.30 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 30/04/2010 15:42:43
Originally by: Syyl'ara The capability to be ruthless is not proportional to the accuracy of a person's statements, but if you really feel the need to regress about 8000 years in philosophical evolution, go right ahead. In fact, I'd dare say the the social models advocated by the most ruthless are far from what society would readily accept and in many cases aren't even realistically sustainable.
Which society are we talking about? Are we talking about a society of a thousand billion thinking creatures that believes it is right to enslave other sentient life because a mythological father-figure in the sky told them so? Is that the kind of wisdom I should derive from "society"? Mob-mentality is a curse. Societal "norms" the moreso. I don't care in the slightest for what "society" might accept. I care for my friends, my allies, my business partners and those strangers who might become one of the forementioned in times to come.
I care nothing for the mob of ill-defined "society" that has been content to allow status quo of imperialist repression and vast inhumanity to stand unchecked and unquestioned for more than your 8000 years.
Give me the hunter-gatherers before the time of prisons and ring-fenced terror at the wolves in the night. I'll teach them nano-technology and immortality and we will take our songs and poetry and beauty and love to the stars and burn our path across the heavens in a bright diaspora of endless restless curiousity and ambition.
Because when all is said and done.
This is who we are.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.30 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Anabella Rella
Originally by: Lyris Nairn
You just can't talk without trying to sound derisive, can you?
Yes, I'm quite capable of doing so, but I'm making an exception in your case as I find you completely reprehensible.
Are you expecting me to return that tone to you?
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Anabella Rella
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2010.04.30 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Are you expecting me to return that tone to you?
Do as you see fit Nairn. I don't really care either way. At least if you'd get angry and show a little emotion I might start to believe that you're in fact human rather than a biological-based spreadsheet. What you want is irrelevant. What you've chosen is at hand. |
Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.04.30 17:51:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Anabella Rella
Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Are you expecting me to return that tone to you?
Do as you see fit Nairn. I don't really care either way. At least if you'd get angry and show a little emotion I might start to believe that you're in fact human rather than a biological-based spreadsheet.
What do you have against spreadsheets? Are you afraid you might catch "the accountability"?
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.05.01 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine We will take our songs and poetry and beauty and love to the stars and burn our path across the heavens in a bright diaspora of endless restless curiousity and ambition.
Because when all is said and done.
This is who we are.
Who we are, a few of us. The concepts you express are too evolved to the majority of the individuals who waste the Universe's precious gift of existence by being completely oblivious of such ideals.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
ôThe Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason; but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of the Gods.ö |
Syyl'ara
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.05.02 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Which society are we talking about? Are we talking about a society of a thousand billion thinking creatures that believes it is right to enslave other sentient life because a mythological father-figure in the sky told them so? Is that the kind of wisdom I should derive from "society"? Mob-mentality is a curse. Societal "norms" the moreso. I don't care in the slightest for what "society" might accept. I care for my friends, my allies, my business partners and those strangers who might become one of the forementioned in times to come.
I care nothing for the mob of ill-defined "society" that has been content to allow status quo of imperialist repression and vast inhumanity to stand unchecked and unquestioned for more than your 8000 years.
Give me the hunter-gatherers before the time of prisons and ring-fenced terror at the wolves in the night. I'll teach them nano-technology and immortality and we will take our songs and poetry and beauty and love to the stars and burn our path across the heavens in a bright diaspora of endless restless curiousity and ambition.
Because when all is said and done.
This is who we are.
a.k.a.
We will bring "enlightenment" to the ignorant masses of the cluster, through our strength and propensity to be ruthless, we will coerce and dominate others into following our vision...
...just like those whom we denounce now did thousands of years ago.
You denounce the results of tyranny, but continue to uphold its use and implementation.
Also, you cannot simultaneously refer to society as a whole, but then pick out examples of policies from just one or two which are widely unpopular, this is called making a hasty generalization. I know you're capable of logical consistency, so when you put these blatant fallacies in your thinking, I start to wonder just what you're covering up.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.
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Posted - 2010.05.03 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Syyl'ara We will bring "enlightenment" to the ignorant masses of the cluster
It's a waste of time. Ignorants will never be Illuminatis. Ignorants and weak should simply be eliminated.
Certain concepts are only able to reach those who are already a step over the masses and seeking for a greater path. It's no surprise for example, that ignorants transforms love in a political debate. More than ever, the holy apocrypha speaks the truth:
ôThe lips of Wisdom are closed, except to the ears of the Understanding.ö
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
ôThe Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason; but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of the Gods.ö |
Syn Callibri
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.05.03 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Syn Callibri on 03/05/2010 18:25:41 Post deleted...wrong thread.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Originally by: Lyris Nairn
Originally by: Revan Neferis
More than ever, my heart is beating for you.
One wonders what all that heart could accomplish if it was put to other uses.
Your obsession towards Lady Neferi's words of love to her lover is becoming a bit too much. One could start to think that the whole matter here is that you have repressed romantic expectations towards the Sovereign. You wouldn't be the first to suffer and even die from such obsession but I strongly suggest that you to take a deep breath and retreat before trailing the same familiar path.
So by responding to a thread full of replies directed at me, I am displaying obsession towards Miss Neferis? By that logic, so, too, is Miss Neferis displaying obsession towards me. I am fairly sure that neither of those statements are accurate. Perhaps you should leave psychoanalysis to those who are trained to practice, and refrain from arm-chair psychology.
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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:43:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Lyris Nairn So by responding to a thread full of replies directed at me, I am displaying obsession towards Miss Neferis?
No, by quoting her every time when she's not even speaking to you, best example you quoting her love declaration to another.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Originally by: Lyris Nairn So by responding to a thread full of replies directed at me, I am displaying obsession towards Miss Neferis?
No, by quoting her every time when she's not even speaking to you, best example you quoting her love declaration to another.
You quoted me when I was not talking to you. Are you interested in getting in my pants?
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Blanche Genevre
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn You quoted me when I was not talking to you. Are you interested in getting in my pants?
I didn't see me quoting / interfering on a a love declaration from you to another. As you have made the accusation, do show us.
Such interference is more than any civilized person would dare to do. But in your case and considering your last words, it's clear that civility is something else that you do not possess.
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Lyris Nairn
Caldari Hashimoto Corporation
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:54:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Blanche Genevre
Originally by: Lyris Nairn You quoted me when I was not talking to you. Are you interested in getting in my pants?
I didn't see me quoting / interfering on a a love declaration from you to another. As you have made the accusation, do show us.
Such interference is more than any civilized person would dare to do. But in your case and considering your last words, it's clear that civility is something else that you do not possess.
I made no such accusation. I pointed out the inconsistency in your statement.
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Captain Blauvelt
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lyris Nairn Are you interested in getting in my pants?
After reading you here, I doubt that anyone would want to pass even closer to that. GL with your bitterness and plain blank boorish clumsy attitude.
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