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Lord Byron
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Posted - 2004.12.03 13:20:00 -
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People are not quite happy with POS atm.
But the point is that POS and tech2 component production represent a complete new industry and people have to realise that an industry is not ment to be run by a single corp or by few corporations.
Also the number of people needed to run a POS has its equivalent in real life industry which means that you will need a lot of manpower to keep them running. I¦m sure that some details need some tweaking but as a whole it¦s working how it¦s ment to work.
This is the right time to get in touch with other corporations, work out contracts with different supporters, suppliers, logistic corporations and producers.
This is maybe more work and needs a lot more dedication and organisation than most have expected, but that¦s how industries work.
We¦re probably one of the biggest tech2 producer in the game and the effort we have to put into our daily business is comparable to the logistics you have to put in place to run a non stop alliance war . To achive that we had to build up a support network before we even built our first tech2 ship - and it¦s still not working without problems all the time.
To think that running a complete production chain, even for only 1 tech2 component , with a small or medium sized corporation alone should be easily achived, is just wishfull thinking.
But isn¦t this what we all wanted ? A complex industry which allows business on a much higher level than just putting some stuff on SCC or simple trades ?
An industry which opens the doors to more complex corporation interaction and gives diplomacy a totally new dimension....that¦s what EXODUS is all about from my point of view.
So, here is our offer :
We¦re planning to build our own stations and are looking for exactly those corporations i mentioned above.
We have no illusions about the complexity and the workload, but we¦re definitely going to do it on a big scale. Everybody who¦s really interrested to put the same effort into it is invited to contact us 
N.A.G.A Corp | NeoCom Site
Lord Byron - Burnt Head
Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares |
Lord Byron
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Posted - 2004.12.03 13:20:00 -
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People are not quite happy with POS atm.
But the point is that POS and tech2 component production represent a complete new industry and people have to realise that an industry is not ment to be run by a single corp or by few corporations.
Also the number of people needed to run a POS has its equivalent in real life industry which means that you will need a lot of manpower to keep them running. I¦m sure that some details need some tweaking but as a whole it¦s working how it¦s ment to work.
This is the right time to get in touch with other corporations, work out contracts with different supporters, suppliers, logistic corporations and producers.
This is maybe more work and needs a lot more dedication and organisation than most have expected, but that¦s how industries work.
We¦re probably one of the biggest tech2 producer in the game and the effort we have to put into our daily business is comparable to the logistics you have to put in place to run a non stop alliance war . To achive that we had to build up a support network before we even built our first tech2 ship - and it¦s still not working without problems all the time.
To think that running a complete production chain, even for only 1 tech2 component , with a small or medium sized corporation alone should be easily achived, is just wishfull thinking.
But isn¦t this what we all wanted ? A complex industry which allows business on a much higher level than just putting some stuff on SCC or simple trades ?
An industry which opens the doors to more complex corporation interaction and gives diplomacy a totally new dimension....that¦s what EXODUS is all about from my point of view.
So, here is our offer :
We¦re planning to build our own stations and are looking for exactly those corporations i mentioned above.
We have no illusions about the complexity and the workload, but we¦re definitely going to do it on a big scale. Everybody who¦s really interrested to put the same effort into it is invited to contact us
N.A.G.A Corp | NeoCom Site
Lord Byron - Burnt Head
Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:08:00 -
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Im glad someone else actually actually grasped the concept of Industry also.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:08:00 -
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Im glad someone else actually actually grasped the concept of Industry also.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:17:00 -
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I will be contacting you in game regarding your plans.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:17:00 -
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I will be contacting you in game regarding your plans.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:18:00 -
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Sorry but it is a game not a WORK. We must play game not work
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:18:00 -
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Sorry but it is a game not a WORK. We must play game not work
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:41:00 -
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Work is all perspective, does a footballer class playing the game work or is it a game?
Does playing chess and working towards victory class as a game or work?
If its not your bag then why post here?
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:41:00 -
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Work is all perspective, does a footballer class playing the game work or is it a game?
Does playing chess and working towards victory class as a game or work?
If its not your bag then why post here?
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Terradoct
Sorry but it is a game not a WORK. We must play game not work
And for some (myself included), this game is very industry based, as that is what the said people enjoy.
One of the best things about EVE is its complicated... ;)
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.12.03 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Terradoct
Sorry but it is a game not a WORK. We must play game not work
And for some (myself included), this game is very industry based, as that is what the said people enjoy.
One of the best things about EVE is its complicated... ;)
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Lord Byron
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Posted - 2004.12.03 17:18:00 -
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Well, yes, it is a lot of work. And yes, we¦re here to play a game.
But what sense does it make to play an industy based game like EVE if it doesn¦t challange your abilities and your talents .
Everybody playing EVE has the freedom to decide in which direction his or her character is going to develop and can set the priorities accordingly.
If you want to shoot things and you don¦t want to care about other things , you can still do so.
If you prefer pointing your mining lasers at a roid all day, so be it.
But if you really want to take the challenge and play the grand game of heavy industry , you will have to invest some time into it.
Everybody has different ambitions to play the game and everybody has a different understanding of fun.
It just happens to be that , what you call work , is actually fun to me and many others.
N.A.G.A Corp | NeoCom Site
Lord Byron - Burnt Head
Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares |
Lord Byron
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Posted - 2004.12.03 17:18:00 -
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Well, yes, it is a lot of work. And yes, we¦re here to play a game.
But what sense does it make to play an industy based game like EVE if it doesn¦t challange your abilities and your talents .
Everybody playing EVE has the freedom to decide in which direction his or her character is going to develop and can set the priorities accordingly.
If you want to shoot things and you don¦t want to care about other things , you can still do so.
If you prefer pointing your mining lasers at a roid all day, so be it.
But if you really want to take the challenge and play the grand game of heavy industry , you will have to invest some time into it.
Everybody has different ambitions to play the game and everybody has a different understanding of fun.
It just happens to be that , what you call work , is actually fun to me and many others.
N.A.G.A Corp | NeoCom Site
Lord Byron - Burnt Head
Desire is most likely the shortest road to destruction - but who cares |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.12.03 17:19:00 -
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It's a game so long as your having fun.
Reverend Necrona |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.12.03 17:19:00 -
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It's a game so long as your having fun.
Reverend Necrona |
Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2004.12.03 18:32:00 -
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Without asking too much in the way of specifics, are NAGA going to build in the fringes of Empire, or find one of the rare areas in 'open' 0.0 space?
There's better ice in Empire by a factor of 5x when it comes to isotopes.
Pure Blind, for instance, despite it being a war zone, is technically 'open space' for non-alliance colonists.
Or, are you looking to contract to build inside Alliance space in exchange for profit sharing, etc?
My corp's waaaay too small to consider building its own POS, just from the upkeep considerations, but I'm personally interested in practical experience in maintenance and willing to invest a modicum of time and effort into a temporary profit share venture if possible.
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2004.12.03 18:32:00 -
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Without asking too much in the way of specifics, are NAGA going to build in the fringes of Empire, or find one of the rare areas in 'open' 0.0 space?
There's better ice in Empire by a factor of 5x when it comes to isotopes.
Pure Blind, for instance, despite it being a war zone, is technically 'open space' for non-alliance colonists.
Or, are you looking to contract to build inside Alliance space in exchange for profit sharing, etc?
My corp's waaaay too small to consider building its own POS, just from the upkeep considerations, but I'm personally interested in practical experience in maintenance and willing to invest a modicum of time and effort into a temporary profit share venture if possible.
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.12.03 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Panzer on 03/12/2004 21:06:30
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 03/12/2004 20:06:01
And you don't need to be afraid that m0o will blow up your POS, cause Naga has an exclusive deal with m0o, and perhaps BoB aswell, they get discounts if they leave Naga alone.
So when your working with Naga, your safe from BoB, I guess... 
Disclaimer: BoB and m0o can at any time and without notice change this standing to Naga and it's allies when they are bored and haven't backstabbed for a while. BoB nor m0o are responsible for any damage done to your POS while you have a treaty with above mentioned entities.
Thank you for your attention.
Do you have anything better to do then stalk us?
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Panzer
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Posted - 2004.12.03 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Panzer on 03/12/2004 21:06:30
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 03/12/2004 20:06:01
And you don't need to be afraid that m0o will blow up your POS, cause Naga has an exclusive deal with m0o, and perhaps BoB aswell, they get discounts if they leave Naga alone.
So when your working with Naga, your safe from BoB, I guess...
Disclaimer: BoB and m0o can at any time and without notice change this standing to Naga and it's allies when they are bored and haven't backstabbed for a while. BoB nor m0o are responsible for any damage done to your POS while you have a treaty with above mentioned entities.
Thank you for your attention.
Do you have anything better to do then stalk us?
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.12.03 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 03/12/2004 20:06:01
And you don't need to be afraid that m0o will blow up your POS, cause Naga has an exclusive deal with m0o, and perhaps BoB aswell, they get discounts if they leave Naga alone.
So when your working with Naga, your safe from BoB, I guess...
Disclaimer: BoB and m0o can at any time and without notice change this standing to Naga and it's allies when they are bored and haven't backstabbed for a while. BoB nor m0o are responsible for any damage done to your POS while you have a treaty with above mentioned entities.
Thank you for your attention.
Since when are you spokesperson for BoB and since when do you know what deals BoB has or dont have?`
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.12.03 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 03/12/2004 20:06:01
And you don't need to be afraid that m0o will blow up your POS, cause Naga has an exclusive deal with m0o, and perhaps BoB aswell, they get discounts if they leave Naga alone.
So when your working with Naga, your safe from BoB, I guess...
Disclaimer: BoB and m0o can at any time and without notice change this standing to Naga and it's allies when they are bored and haven't backstabbed for a while. BoB nor m0o are responsible for any damage done to your POS while you have a treaty with above mentioned entities.
Thank you for your attention.
Since when are you spokesperson for BoB and since when do you know what deals BoB has or dont have?`
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.12.03 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: SirMolle
Since when are you spokesperson for BoB and since when do you know what deals BoB has or dont have?`
Indeed, I can only speak for the deal that m0o has with Naga, not for BoB, but I assume you guys must have a deal with them, although I can't confirm this. Although I invite you do confirm this for me, would be nice.
And are you asking me to become spokesperson for BoB? Beware, I'm not cheap...
Saying something is true when you have no proof is called lying. Keep digging that hole though, all those corpses need to go somewhere.
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Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
"Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.12.03 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: SirMolle
Since when are you spokesperson for BoB and since when do you know what deals BoB has or dont have?`
Indeed, I can only speak for the deal that m0o has with Naga, not for BoB, but I assume you guys must have a deal with them, although I can't confirm this. Although I invite you do confirm this for me, would be nice.
And are you asking me to become spokesperson for BoB? Beware, I'm not cheap...
Saying something is true when you have no proof is called lying. Keep digging that hole though, all those corpses need to go somewhere.
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Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
"Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.12.04 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 03/12/2004 20:06:01
And you don't need to be afraid that m0o will blow up your POS, cause Naga has an exclusive deal with m0o, and perhaps BoB aswell, they get discounts if they leave Naga alone.
So when your working with Naga, your safe from BoB, I guess...
Disclaimer: BoB and m0o can at any time and without notice change this standing to Naga and it's allies when they are bored and haven't backstabbed for a while. BoB nor m0o are responsible for any damage done to your POS while you have a treaty with above mentioned entities.
Thank you for your attention.
And you thought that was worthy of a post because? anyway who is you?
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.12.04 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 03/12/2004 20:06:01
And you don't need to be afraid that m0o will blow up your POS, cause Naga has an exclusive deal with m0o, and perhaps BoB aswell, they get discounts if they leave Naga alone.
So when your working with Naga, your safe from BoB, I guess...
Disclaimer: BoB and m0o can at any time and without notice change this standing to Naga and it's allies when they are bored and haven't backstabbed for a while. BoB nor m0o are responsible for any damage done to your POS while you have a treaty with above mentioned entities.
Thank you for your attention.
And you thought that was worthy of a post because? anyway who is you?
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Sally
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Posted - 2004.12.04 02:12:00 -
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Oh, BoB feeding the troll :).
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.12.04 02:12:00 -
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And, kudos to NAGA, one of the best corps in the universe for sure.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.12.04 02:12:00 -
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Oh, BoB feeding the troll :).
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.12.04 02:12:00 -
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And, kudos to NAGA, one of the best corps in the universe for sure.
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