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AzKing Mobreal	Posted - 2010.04.29 00:20:00 - [1] Specifically in a very small gang or for solo? wanted to hear some opinions, just curious Thanks
Naliena Arlath	Posted - 2010.04.29 00:23:00 - [2] I prefer apples, but I hear tuesdays are good too.
Admiral Pelleon White Shadow Imperium Z.E.R.G	Posted - 2010.04.29 00:29:00 - [3] I prefer the arbi, it's a good boat that remains useful thanks to TD bonus even in decent sized gangs. ________
AzKing Mobreal	Posted - 2010.04.29 00:31:00 - [4] Originally by: Naliena Arlath I prefer apples, but I hear tuesdays are good too. um, thanks?
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2010.04.29 00:43:00 - [5] While the TD is useful, the raw damage of the Vexor is far more useful in a small gang. 400+dps with 38K+ buffer tank. Plus Vexor out-damages, out-tanks, is faster, more agile, locks farther & quicker, better sensor strength, and even has a larger cargohold. Arbi just can't compare. Taxman IX: Risky Venture
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.29 01:02:00 - [6] Vex is the gank t1 drone boat and the arbi is the tding ew drone boat. Plus with lg slaves, hardwires and a good gang boost you can float both up to around 50k ehp. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
Veritaal Amarr Red Federation	Posted - 2010.04.29 01:02:00 - [7] Edited by: Veritaal on 29/04/2010 01:03:22 Vexor can fit a bigger tank (2 1600s is possible I think), plus it can fit guns. Attaching turrets to an arbi is kinda LOL, but the tracking disruption is unbelievably awesome if used properly. I fit 2 TD's on just about all of my fits, maybe 3 if necessary. Scripted for optimal range disruption, a TD from an arbi is pretty crippling. So, for straight up tank/spank, go Vexor. For support, fly an arbi.
Proxyyyy Caldari The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.04.29 01:12:00 - [8] I dont like Ships focused on drone damage. The vexor can do alot of turrent and drone damage! **ing around with drones in a fight is boring as sh!t. kinda like the ishtar/Arbitrator/Gila that only realy excels in fleets imo or against ****s for the most part. Not that you'll be engaging the best pvp'ers everyday (Cause you may engage a good pilot once out of 50 engagements). The Curse, sentinel, and pilgrim have other things going for them. That compensates (For the lame, that is drone pvp). Not saying the arbitrator is a bad ship though...
AzKing Mobreal	Posted - 2010.04.29 01:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Proxyyyy I dont like Ships focused on drone damage. The vexor can do alot of turrent and drone damage! **ing around with drones in a fight is boring as sh!t. kinda like the ishtar/Arbitrator/Gila that only realy excels in fleets imo or against ****s for the most part. Not that you'll be engaging the best pvp'ers everyday (Cause you may engage a good pilot once out of 50 engagements). The Curse, sentinel, and pilgrim have other things going for them. That compensates (For the lame, that is drone pvp). Not saying the arbitrator is a bad ship though... I'm discovering a similar thing about drone damage... its not as much fun. But at this point I have close to 4 mil sp in drones and i'd like to do some cruiser pvp with a friend. I know i'll die a lot, i just want to be in a ship that gives me the best shot of having fun anyway. Not sure if i'm looking for survivability or just something that takes people with me.
Alsyth Night Warder	Posted - 2010.04.29 01:29:00 - [10] Edited by: Alsyth on 29/04/2010 01:32:35 Edited by: Alsyth on 29/04/2010 01:31:47 Drone damage doesn't appear chen you check your logs after a fight. That's sad. For the OP : 1600mm small guns Vexor 1600mm small neuts Arbi are on par. Arbi have more dronebay, useful to carry 2 flights of lights (warrior/hob usually), 2 flights of med (Hammerheads/ECM, usually). Other fits I don't really know. TD is cool. Vexor damage when gank fitted is cool.

Darthewok Caldari Naval Reserve	Posted - 2010.04.29 03:16:00 - [11] Edited by: Darthewok on 29/04/2010 03:23:38 vexor (guns and tank fit) is useful no matter what sort of ships you meet arbi (TD fit) is very useful if you meet turret ships but not very useful if you meet missile/drone ships as the TDs are useless then personally prefer vexor over the arbi if not sure what type of ships will be fighting as i know it will be useful regardless arbi only if i am sure i will be fighting a strong turret ship (eg. Geddon/Baddon) and want to TD its turret damage
AzKing Mobreal	Posted - 2010.04.29 03:35:00 - [12] i've been playing with fits for the vexor and looking around and it seems most of the pvp fits i've seen fit a 1600 mm plate and small blasters. I'm worried that even with an mwd i'll have trouble getting into effective range for the small blasters though. why not 150 rails for solo pvp instead?
ShahFluffers Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.04.29 04:27:00 - [13] Originally by: AzKing Mobreal i've been playing with fits for the vexor and looking around and it seems most of the pvp fits i've seen fit a 1600 mm plate and small blasters. I'm worried that even with an mwd i'll have trouble getting into effective range for the small blasters though. why not 150 rails for solo pvp instead? The small blasters are there in case some smartass frigate starts warp scrambling you. Most of the Vexor's REAL dps is dealt by drones (i.e. 3x Ogre II, 3x Garde IIs, or 5x Hammerhead IIs) _______________________ "Just because I look like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown
Valoric Liao	Posted - 2010.04.29 06:56:00 - [14] I'd advise fitting small ACs, or 2 small/2 med dual-ACs (will still fit with a 1600mm plate). Damage is similar but without the vulnerability to neuts.
JASON W0RTHING future of humankind Wayfarer Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2010.04.29 10:57:00 - [15] Edited by: JASON W0RTHING on 29/04/2010 10:57:38 [Vexor-Gank] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Small Armor Repairer II 10mn Microwarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Light Neutron Blaster II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S] Light Neutron Blaster II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S] Light Neutron Blaster II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S] Light Neutron Blaster II [Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S] Small Energy Neutralizer II 5x Hammerhead II 5x Warrior II 5x Hornet EC-300 Rigs to taste. Dunno, but you can take on quite a lot of stuff with a Vexor. === I wonder if this is a bannable offense...
Jabru	Posted - 2010.04.29 12:33:00 - [16] why not the TD vexor? [Vexor, pvp] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Tracking Disruptor II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Nosferatu I Small Nosferatu I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Valkyrie II x2 Warrior II x1 Berserker II x2 or 3 heavy drones
VanNostrum	Posted - 2010.04.29 15:07:00 - [17] Originally by: Proxyyyy turrent NO!
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.29 16:04:00 - [18] Originally by: AzKing Mobreal Specifically in a very small gang or for solo? wanted to hear some opinions, just curious Thanks The arbi is an e-war platform with decent dmg output - it's usually way better in gang situations, and for solo gives you means to out-last your opponent = range and ewar tank it along with decent EHP buffer and chew them slowly with your drones. The Vexor is more aggressive, and it's approach is to out-gank the opponent with overwhelming for it's class DPS...just like the Thorax. The problem is that this requires both being in med blaster ranges = scram/web ranges. Gallente blaster boats commit to the fight more, and it's usually kill or be killed. The Arbi is more flexible, and in scram/web situations even a single TD - though cannot guarantee win - can ruin another turret boat's dmg output if you range TD it and keep range at scam edge. Of course in gangs 2x TDs projecting out to lock-range - or even 3x if you have enough tacklers already - are way more powerful than the 200 dps advantage of the vexor at point blank... Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
Viibl Triibl	Posted - 2010.04.29 17:30:00 - [19] Vexor is the better choice overall. Arbi gets honorable mention, but it's a slow killer and relies exclusively on drones for damage.
Novargen	Posted - 2010.05.02 17:31:00 - [20] Edited by: Novargen on 02/05/2010 17:34:07 Originally by: Darthewok Edited by: Darthewok on 29/04/2010 03:23:38 vexor (guns and tank fit) is useful no matter what sort of ships you meet arbi (TD fit) is very useful if you meet turret ships but not very useful if you meet missile/drone ships as the TDs are useless then personally prefer vexor over the arbi if not sure what type of ships will be fighting as i know it will be useful regardless arbi only if i am sure i will be fighting a strong turret ship (eg. Geddon/Baddon) and want to TD its turret damage I agree m8 you should also remember to put some stabs on like this.

Duke Boxstar	Posted - 2010.05.02 17:37:00 - [21] /me looks at the Ewoks battleclinic losses.... Sweet Jesus of Nazareth. . . . Got a surplus of warp core stabz you needed to burn or a fear of exploding hot metal splashing on your pod ?? The Duke.
Adevk	Posted - 2010.05.02 17:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Novargen Edited by: Novargen on 02/05/2010 17:34:07 Originally by: Darthewok Edited by: Darthewok on 29/04/2010 03:23:38 vexor (guns and tank fit) is useful no matter what sort of ships you meet arbi (TD fit) is very useful if you meet turret ships but not very useful if you meet missile/drone ships as the TDs are useless then personally prefer vexor over the arbi if not sure what type of ships will be fighting as i know it will be useful regardless arbi only if i am sure i will be fighting a strong turret ship (eg. Geddon/Baddon) and want to TD its turret damage I agree m8 you should also remember to put some stabs on like this. Stabs are way better on pvp battleships with small guns. Like this: http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5149684
eyhethtehtr	Posted - 2010.05.02 17:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Darthewok real soloers represent, keep the solo PVP flag flying avg.parties = 2 or less on EVE Arena is the real deal therefore PE is real soloer nice fights Hmm! Guess your a true pvper then... null Seems you are the original (STABBA) pilot = )
Cpt Branko Retired Pirate Club	Posted - 2010.05.02 18:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Adevk Stabs are way better on pvp battleships with small guns. Like this: http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5149684 Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint


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