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Emo TJ Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.03 19:39:00 - [31] Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Emo TJ Back to the ****ing top again. Fix this "I WIN" crap!!! I am sick of losing ship after ship to these damn ships. Maybe you should try asking yourself what you could do differently so that this doesn't continue to happen? I mean, even a relatively unintelligent animal can learn if presented with unsatisfactory outcomes in a repetitive fashion. A dozen guys in frigates should not be able to wipe out a 100 battleship fleet with ease in just a few seconds. This is the very definition of a ship being over powered. PERIOD!
darius mclever	Posted - 2010.05.03 19:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Emo TJ A dozen guys in frigates should not be able to wipe out a 100 battleship fleet with ease in just a few seconds. This is the very definition of a ship being over powered. PERIOD! Let me guess, you had been in that badger, when the initiative wiped your fleet with bombers? waiting for titan bridge outside the shield again?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.03 19:50:00 - [33] Originally by: Emo TJ Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Emo TJ Back to the ****ing top again. Fix this "I WIN" crap!!! I am sick of losing ship after ship to these damn ships. Maybe you should try asking yourself what you could do differently so that this doesn't continue to happen? I mean, even a relatively unintelligent animal can learn if presented with unsatisfactory outcomes in a repetitive fashion. A dozen guys in frigates should not be able to wipe out a 100 battleship fleet with ease in just a few seconds. This is the very definition of a fleet leaving their naked asses out for free use. PERIOD! FYP.
Bagehi Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.05.03 19:51:00 - [34] Edited by: Bagehi on 03/05/2010 19:53:07 Originally by: CCP Adida Removed trolling comments. This is a place for everyone to share their ideas. You may come across an idea that has been stated before and/or don't like. There is no need to troll each other. If you don't support it a simple "do not support" will suffice. Please add a "do not support this topic" box under "support this topic" then please. Also, not supported. If I could link killmails, I would show how often stealth bombers die. They aren't an I-Win button. EMO TJ posts are going downhill. Originally by: Emo TJ A dozen guys in frigates should not be able to wipe out a 100 battleship fleet with ease in just a few seconds. This is the very definition of a fleet leaving their naked asses out for free use. PERIOD! If your fleet sat there and let enough bombers drop on your glass canon battleship fleet without doing anything, you deserve to have learned this lesson. This signature is useless, but it is red.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.03 19:55:00 - [35] Originally by: darius mclever Originally by: Emo TJ A dozen guys in frigates should not be able to wipe out a 100 battleship fleet with ease in just a few seconds. This is the very definition of a ship being over powered. PERIOD! Let me guess, you had been in that badger, when the initiative wiped your fleet with bombers? waiting for titan bridge outside the shield again? Correct. They set there for quite a while, clustered right on the bridge at 0Km Oh and it wasn't "a dozen guys in frigate" We had 4 full squads making a total of 9 runs. Does TJ want to nerf bombs enough that a BS can tank ~60-70 bomb hits...?
Padre Slaviczek DEFCON. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.03 19:58:00 - [36] Not supported.
NightmareX Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.03 19:58:00 - [37] Edited by: NightmareX on 03/05/2010 20:00:42 Originally by: Emo TJ Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Emo TJ Back to the **ing top again. Fix this "I WIN" crap!!! I am sick of losing ship after ship to these damn ships. Maybe you should try asking yourself what you could do differently so that this doesn't continue to happen? I mean, even a relatively unintelligent animal can learn if presented with unsatisfactory outcomes in a repetitive fashion. A dozen guys in frigates should not be able to wipe out a 100 battleship fleet with ease in just a few seconds. This is the very definition of a ship being over powered. PERIOD! LOL, jesus christ man, stop being dumb. Maybe you should tell your uber ****ed fleet commanders to stop being so dumb to begin with maybe?. Sitting at a jump bridge with around 150-200 BS'es ready to jump with jump fuel enough to only jump out 50 BS'es is a very good idea. Hahah, this is what i call for epicly owned in yo face.
Emo TJ Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.03 20:04:00 - [38] Originally by: NightmareX LOL, jesus christ man, stop being dumb. Maybe you should tell your uber ******ed fleet commanders to stop being so dumb to begin with maybe?. Sitting at a jump bridge with around 150-200 BS'es ready to jump with jump fuel enough to only jump out 50 BS'es is a very good idea. Hahah, this is what i call for epicly owned in yo face. So because this game has yet another sore eye (jump bridge requiring fuel ) over a hundred of my friends are punished by losing their ships they worked hard for. This is no better than going into low sec just to get ganked by a 50 man camp. How is that supposed to be fun? Anyways, back on topic. My point has been made and justified. Please give a thumbs up so this ship can be balanced.
psycho freak Minmatar DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.03 20:04:00 - [39] Edited by: psycho freak on 03/05/2010 20:06:19 lol OP nc alt spoted grow some balls sh!t happens lol btw nice whine can we have cheese with this whine btw did u loose 150 man fleet to a bombing raid today lol my english sux sue me or bomb me :) gogo initive u rock guys :)
NightmareX Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.03 20:09:00 - [40] Edited by: NightmareX on 03/05/2010 20:14:10 Originally by: Emo TJ Originally by: NightmareX LOL, jesus christ man, stop being dumb. Maybe you should tell your uber ****ed fleet commanders to stop being so dumb to begin with maybe?. Sitting at a jump bridge with around 150-200 BS'es ready to jump with jump fuel enough to only jump out 50 BS'es is a very good idea. Hahah, this is what i call for epicly owned in yo face. So because this game has yet another sore eye (jump bridge requiring fuel ) over a hundred of my friends are punished by losing their ships they worked hard for. This is no better than going into low sec just to get ganked by a 50 man camp. How is that supposed to be fun? Anyways, back on topic. My point has been made and justified. Please give a thumbs up so this ship can be balanced. It's just your own dumb fault that you get spanked by Bombers. Stealth Bombers are perfectly fine as they are. Oh noes, they was **d hardcore for they own stupidity. Well, you know what?, that was extremely deserved tbh. I have a hint for you. The first thing is: Learn PVP, the 2nd thing is: Learn to use your brain. I have been bombed quite some times in my Sniper Tempest, but because we know what we are doing, i have lost none to any bombers. Last time i was bombed by Stealth Bombers, i think i was hit by 5-6 bombs and got out with 15% armor in my shield tanked Tempest. So start being way smarter and you can start to be more successfull in EVE. EVE Online is not Hello Kitty Online. EDIT: Just to say the same as the Atlas guy over me said. The Initiative is doing a great job with their Bombers. So keep up the good work The Initiative.

jarrell garick	Posted - 2010.05.03 20:33:00 - [41] NOT SUPPORTED tastey tastey NC alt tears! yummy 150 bs can die to a well organised, well FC'd 25man bomber gang, true. but 500 bombers could die to a random solo bomber too. if you really think there is no risk, try actually flying a bomber. sebo zealot/inty/bubble/2seconds lag = dead bombers...been there, seen it, done it! not only were they sat on a pos, but when you jump into 25 hostiles and nothing is on scan, alarm bells should be ringing...theres a reason for that shield around the pos (its safe in there) purely FC's fault for a bad call! OP is a fool! fact!
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2010.05.03 20:42:00 - [42] Originally by: Emo TJ Originally by: NightmareX LOL, jesus christ man, stop being dumb. Maybe you should tell your uber ****ed fleet commanders to stop being so dumb to begin with maybe?. Sitting at a jump bridge with around 150-200 BS'es ready to jump with jump fuel enough to only jump out 50 BS'es is a very good idea. Hahah, this is what i call for epicly owned in yo face. So because this game has yet another sore eye (jump bridge requiring fuel ) over a hundred of my friends are punished by losing their ships they worked hard for. This is no better than going into low sec just to get ganked by a 50 man camp. How is that supposed to be fun? Anyways, back on topic. My point has been made and justified. Please give a thumbs up so this ship can be balanced. Perhaps after you satisfactorily explain Malcanis' post a couple up from the quoted one. If they had time to make 9 bombing runs on your fleet then you, frankly, deserved to die, especially given the cycle time of a bomb launcher. --Vel Originally by:** Jiseinoku Mining is the path to enlightement.
Emo TJ Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.03 20:53:00 - [43] Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Emo TJ Originally by: NightmareX LOL, jesus christ man, stop being dumb. Maybe you should tell your uber ******ed fleet commanders to stop being so dumb to begin with maybe?. Sitting at a jump bridge with around 150-200 BS'es ready to jump with jump fuel enough to only jump out 50 BS'es is a very good idea. Hahah, this is what i call for epicly owned in yo face. So because this game has yet another sore eye (jump bridge requiring fuel ) over a hundred of my friends are punished by losing their ships they worked hard for. This is no better than going into low sec just to get ganked by a 50 man camp. How is that supposed to be fun? Anyways, back on topic. My point has been made and justified. Please give a thumbs up so this ship can be balanced. Perhaps after you satisfactorily explain Malcanis' post a couple up from the quoted one. If they had time to make 9 bombing runs on your fleet then you, frankly, deserved to die, especially given the cycle time of a bomb launcher. Stop trolling my Assembly Hall thread. CAOD is that way __>
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.03 20:57:00 - [44] Edited by: Malcanis on 03/05/2010 20:57:24 Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Emo TJ Originally by: NightmareX LOL, jesus christ man, stop being dumb. Maybe you should tell your uber ******ed fleet commanders to stop being so dumb to begin with maybe?. Sitting at a jump bridge with around 150-200 BS'es ready to jump with jump fuel enough to only jump out 50 BS'es is a very good idea. Hahah, this is what i call for epicly owned in yo face. So because this game has yet another sore eye (jump bridge requiring fuel ) over a hundred of my friends are punished by losing their ships they worked hard for. This is no better than going into low sec just to get ganked by a 50 man camp. How is that supposed to be fun? Anyways, back on topic. My point has been made and justified. Please give a thumbs up so this ship can be balanced. Perhaps after you satisfactorily explain Malcanis' post a couple up from the quoted one. If they had time to make 9 bombing runs on your fleet then you, frankly, deserved to die, especially given the cycle time of a bomb launcher. 9 runs total, made by 4 squads about 12 seconds apart. Only squad 1 got a 3rd launch (I did nothing of value on the 3rd run because I forgot the launchers need to reload :p) But they'd been sat on the bridge, outside the shields, for about 5 minutes by the time we turned up... kind of a welp moment for them. Happens to us all tbh.
darius mclever	Posted - 2010.05.03 20:59:00 - [45] so lets see: you sit a few km from the saving pos shield, instead of waiting inside the shield (Smart way) you sit right on the JB while waiting for the fuel. correct? you sir got punished for your own stupidity. smart people wait inside the shield.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate	Posted - 2010.05.03 21:27:00 - [46] Originally by: CCP Adida Removed trolling comments. This is a place for everyone to share their ideas. You may come across an idea that has been stated before and/or don't like. There is no need to troll each other. If you don't support it a simple "do not support" will suffice. With all due respect, bull****. I didn't call him a troll because I dislike his idea. I called him a troll because he has a continuing history of posting ideas so incredibly ludicrous that literally nobody believes he's serious. I took him seriously for the first few, but he has proven himself not to be worth that consideration. He is banned from the CSM Public chat channel - the only person to earn that honour - and the only comment that ban got was "Why did it take you so long"? A simple perusal of his comment history should be sufficient to convince anyone of his lack of honesty with regards to the issues he pushes. He is a troll, full stop. Do not make a mockery of the moderation process by defending him.
Imigo Montoya	Posted - 2010.05.04 03:05:00 - [47] I've only seen this one thread by Emo TJ and I'm suspecting a troll, particularly with the "no more content/counter points, just support this" posts. However, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and presume ignorance instead. Stealth bombers are excellently balanced. They have times where they excel and also times when they crumble in nanoseconds. There are ships that stealth bombers are deadly against (big ships or ships in clusters), and there are ships that will tear them apart (anything that can target and tackle them quickly, particularly if they prop with ABs) and provide significant risk to SB pilots. In short stealth bombers have strengths and weaknesses - this is the epitome of balance. If you're serious and not a troll, I would suggest you start making some productive counterpoints to the many points that have been made against your proposal. Also, please note that I am in the NC, and love SBs (and their counters) the way they are...
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.05.04 03:41:00 - [48] Originally by: Emo TJ Ok, so everyone knows that bombs are over powered. There is no arguing that. I propose the following changes: Bombs cause no damage if bomber is not on grid. Right now a bomber can simply align, decloak, bomb and warp off all within less than a second with no risk. Remove this "I WIN BUTTON!!!" Does a bomber in real life sit over its target for ages and fly around in circles lolling? No, it does its bombing run, drops its payload and gets the ** out of dodge. I fail to see your point. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<**
Emo TJ Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.04 06:26:00 - [49] Originally by: Imigo Montoya I've only seen this one thread by Emo TJ and I'm suspecting a troll, particularly with the "no more content/counter points, just support this" posts. However, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and presume ignorance instead. Stealth bombers are excellently balanced. They have times where they excel and also times when they crumble in nanoseconds. There are ships that stealth bombers are deadly against (big ships or ships in clusters), and there are ships that will tear them apart (anything that can target and tackle them quickly, particularly if they prop with ABs) and provide significant risk to SB pilots. In short stealth bombers have strengths and weaknesses - this is the epitome of balance. If you're serious and not a troll, I would suggest you start making some productive counterpoints to the many points that have been made against your proposal. Also, please note that I am in the NC, and love SBs (and their counters) the way they are... If you fit to be super fast locker then you do not have enough hit points to survive the bomb. And lets not forget they always fit stabs so that means you need to have enough alpha to pop it in one shot. This means more damage mods and thus, less hit points. Basically, your dead one way or another. But wait, let me guess, I still have not provided some reasons or something to make a valid argument? Please keep spinning this and trying to derail my thread. You are simply bringing more attention to this over powered ship and more and more people are realizing it. Please give more thumbs up people.
ShahFluffers Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.05.04 07:44:00 - [50] Originally by: Emo TJ And lets not forget they always fit stabs so that means you need to have enough alpha to pop it in one shot. I do not see any stabs on any of the stealth bombers that died in the incident that spurred this. Originally by: Emo TJ Please give more thumbs up people. You only have 1 thumb up and that's from some guy who wants to do the opposite that another guy is doing. Originally by: Emo TJ But wait, let me guess, I still have not provided some reasons or something to make a valid argument? You're right. You haven't. Let me impart some advice that was given to another guy who spammed proposals here in the Assembly Hall: Quote: "You are posting a proposal for the general forum population to see. It is YOUR job to convince US that a change is necessary, not the other way around." By avoiding our arguments and continuing on as if we said nothing you do not do your proposal justice. _______________________ "Just because I look like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown

Ander Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.05.04 10:10:00 - [51] Edited by: Ander on 04/05/2010 10:13:00 OPs proposal is DUMB . This proposal is NOT supported. Im not gonna even bother wasting resources explaining why. EVE PIRATE BattleDB.com
Ildryn The Inf1dels En Garde	Posted - 2010.05.15 13:33:00 - [52] Originally by: Emo TJ Back to the ****ing top again. Fix this "I WIN" crap!!! I am sick of losing ship after ship to these damn ships. Bombing tactics are valid and they work. Noone will sit in a paper tanked ship and just let you shoot at them if they can help it. I am sick of people like you trying to ruin hard work. So are they going to ban you ? What are you doing going to 0.0 in a noob corp ? How did you make 100 friends ? And how did you convince 100 noob corp people to come to a place that had a jump bridge ? Post with your main or stfu.
Marquis Zenas I.X Research	Posted - 2010.05.15 13:36:00 - [53] I don't suppose anyone minds me mentioning this -------------------------- Sigless
darius mclever	Posted - 2010.05.15 13:37:00 - [54] Why do we listen to someone who lost a dramiel to a badger?
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux	Posted - 2010.05.15 16:30:00 - [55] Originally by: darius mclever Why do we listen to someone who lost a dramiel to a SOLO badger? FYP. And I have no idea. -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Velicitia Aliastra	Posted - 2010.05.15 18:14:00 - [56] Originally by: Emo TJ Originally by: NightmareX LOL, jesus christ man, stop being dumb. Maybe you should tell your uber ****ed fleet commanders to stop being so dumb to begin with maybe?. Sitting at a jump bridge with around 150-200 BS'es ready to jump with jump fuel enough to only jump out 50 BS'es is a very good idea. Hahah, this is what i call for epicly owned in yo face. So because this game has yet another sore eye (jump bridge requiring fuel ) over a hundred of my friends are punished by losing their ships they worked hard for. This is no better than going into low sec just to get ganked by a 50 man camp. How is that supposed to be fun? Anyways, back on topic. My point has been made and justified. Please give a thumbs up so this ship can be balanced. Unless I'm thinking of the wrong thing... back in the days of living out in nullsec, in order to use a bridge you needed the pos shield password... WHY IN THE ** DIDN'T YOU JUST GET UNDER COVER???
Ephemeron Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.05.15 21:40:00 - [57] Originally by: CCP Adida Removed trolling comments. This is a place for everyone to share their ideas. You may come across an idea that has been stated before and/or don't like. There is no need to troll each other. If you don't support it a simple "do not support" will suffice. If you read the forums for last couple weeks you'd notice that Emo TJ has began trolling this forum with nonsensical threads. Why don't you remove his trolls? and send him a warning while you are at it.


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