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Rhivre Caldari TarNec	Posted - 2010.05.13 14:20:00 - [91] Edited by: Rhivre on 13/05/2010 14:30:52 Edited by: Rhivre on 13/05/2010 14:22:21 Originally by: Nero Farway I have just taken the lesson =) I have been trading for several months before, have been a station trader and right now am sitting on 4b. Since I had to manage a lot of orders in a major trade hub without raising my income I had to do something... I decided to take the lesson and, so far, am not regretting it. Nero Farway Many people make this "mistake", they sit in a trade hub and try to micro manage a ton of orders, when in actuality, you can hop 2 jumps (or w/e depending on region) outside to a mission hub, sell higher than the trade hub, with a lot less managing needed. Too many people get involved in the yawning game of 0.01isking, which is generally for products with much smaller margins. It is tempting when you see the volumes traded in Jita to hop there and start 0.01ing. Also, far too many people have no patience, and think if an order for items you buy at 2m and sell at 4m havent shifted in a few hours then it isnt selling. Remember to sell what missioners in the region will be using, so selling amarrian lasers in a mostly caldari hub is not the most useful (can work, but check the volumes shifted first). Remember mission runners will right click/sell to buy orders, as time is money. Remember mission runners will buy the module / ammo they need RIGHT NOW at the price it is at the nearest station. Industrialists will buy up that 999 veld they need for the trit at the station they are manufacturing on, they will also buy up the minerals from there if they are a bit short. Look around at the market, and at the system. There are often much higher profits to be made sitting outside of a trade hub (Think about how the petrol prices increase the further into the countryside you go) Myself, I trade meta 4 and T2 (well, everything really, but those 2 can bring in the biggest markup), mostly because that is what I fitted on my ship when I was missioning, and so it is what I knew about. The buy order / sell order difference in those can be big. In trade hubs, I like selling cheap pvp fittings, because station camping is common, and when your ship gets exploderised, you dock and buy a new one. I only do the above because 0.01 is something I only do when I am half asleep and feel like playing games in a trade hub, or when I feel like some conversation (it can be quite quiet making new mini hubs). From the chats that frequently pop up in the channels I frequent, 0.01 frustration, and lack of profits in a trade hub is a common feeling among newer traders. Sneaky edit: Remember to pop into Signatures, and the lounge, and the Trade channels in game, always lots of questions being asked and answered Sneaky edit 2: Forgot to mention Traders Academy channel too
Corcyrus Endymion	Posted - 2010.05.13 14:35:00 - [92] Edited by: Corcyrus Endymion on 13/05/2010 14:34:56 Originally by: Zaribeth I am posting to confirm the OP is not a scammer I paid the 300mill isk and i have now lost almost 120lbs in 30 days. Conforming that indeed this diet method beats anything you've tried before. B
Manterror	Posted - 2010.05.13 16:42:00 - [93] dock, train Trade skills. Buy regional at 1/2 price. Sell at normal price. Never undock. Win.
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec	Posted - 2010.05.13 17:20:00 - [94] Since people tend to think MD dont share info for free I think I will say a few things.. First of there are several services out there as already mentioned. Should you need channels there are at least the following to join. Signatures : Lead by Cista scc-lounge : Launched by myself to chill and lulz for MD (not just serious biz) Trader¦s Academy : a more noob biased channel There is ofc always the local channels of the major hubs to "meet" people. Resources have been made for a long time.. Hexxx did some really good stuff as mp3 from his seminar, that was I believe 10M per person.. I did a few really 101 basic videos which can be seen in my bio, links to evefiles and dropbox. There is some stuff on the lounge wordpress: http://scclounge.wordpress.com/ On a closing remark I was handing out the 100M scholarship to really new players and have already resulted in most these people reaching the comfortable billionaire level starting from nothing.. On more high scale stuff I have consulted w individuals on creating more specific biz. I am not the only one doing this, the MD is rather social once you take the time and talk. Sure if your antisocial and looking for an easy "break the game" solution, then EVE market is not for you.. FREEBIE: Get EVEHQ or similar set up day-to-day production cost buy orders ranged and go sell at mission and trade hubs.. calculate perfect refine and recycle and set up buy orders with a 5-10% profit near mission and ratting areas. In short think SERVICE not abuse, and you will get isk slowly streaming to your wallet with hardly any work. Its all preperation and research. Need more ideas drop by the lounge or give me a buzzz.. Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge Got Game? Peak a boo...
IIIBLADEIII	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:46:00 - [95] Interesting how the lack of fault that you can find from my produce and the review that have been given results in some people turning to sabotage to try and either dis-credit me or turn people away from my lesson. Also Rhivre you sound like you have alot to learn from my tutorial, send me a mail and we get you setup mate k. Thank You IIIBLADEIII
Rhivre Caldari TarNec	Posted - 2010.05.13 21:37:00 - [96] Originally by: IIIBLADEIII Interesting how the lack of fault that you can find from my produce and the review that have been given results in some people turning to sabotage to try and either dis-credit me or turn people away from my lesson. Also Rhivre you sound like you have alot to learn from my tutorial, send me a mail and we get you setup mate k. Thank You IIIBLADEIII I have stated that I dont find fault in your product, much in the same way that I dont find fault with someone wanting to buy a navy raven for 2bn isk if they so choose, however, if the impression is given that navy ravens are only sold for 2bn, and you wont find it cheaper elsewhere, then I like to make people aware of the options. I think I will politely decline your tutorial, as stated above, I can get a navy raven for less than 2bn
Alice Celadon	Posted - 2010.05.14 00:43:00 - [97] Originally by: IIIBLADEIII Interesting how the lack of fault that you can find from my produce and the review that have been given results in some people turning to sabotage to try and either dis-credit me or turn people away from my lesson. Also Rhivre you sound like you have alot to learn from my tutorial, send me a mail and we get you setup mate k. Thank You IIIBLADEIII All right. It looks like you may have a legitimate product, and it would seem you're collecting clients. That's good. However, given that the service you provide is based around instruction and personal interaction, you need to be far more aware of the fact that you're actually in the business of PUBLIC RELATIONS. Now reread the post that I quoted, and then go back and reread all your retorts in this thread. Now stop it. Ad hominem attacks and mini-grudge matches are only going to ruin your business. If people slander you in this thread, you should briefly and politely restate what your service provides and at what cost, and then drop it. I'm seriously trying to help you here. A noobie reading your thread is going to be far more likely to shell out 300mil if you seem professional, composed, and courteous.
IIIBLADEIII	Posted - 2010.05.14 07:44:00 - [98] Edited by: IIIBLADEIII on 14/05/2010 07:44:42 Edited by: IIIBLADEIII on 14/05/2010 07:44:05 Quote: All right. It looks like you may have a legitimate product, and it would seem you're collecting clients. That's good. However, given that the service you provide is based around instruction and personal interaction, you need to be far more aware of the fact that you're actually in the business of PUBLIC RELATIONS. Now reread the post that I quoted, and then go back and reread all your retorts in this thread. Now stop it. Ad hominem attacks and mini-grudge matches are only going to ruin your business. If people slander you in this thread, you should briefly and politely restate what your service provides and at what cost, and then drop it. I'm seriously trying to help you here. A noobie reading your thread is going to be far more likely to shell out 300mil if you seem professional, composed, and courteous. Thanx for the advice, and it shall be implemented. One extra thing, the course price was changed and is now only 100 mil. Thank You IIIBLADEIII
Badger Nads	Posted - 2010.05.17 00:13:00 - [99] Took the course. OP is genuine, and a nice guy, it's not a scam. Got some good tips out of it.
Captain Rawr	Posted - 2010.05.17 23:27:00 - [100] I was hesitant at first with this course but after the OP lowered his price to 100m I figured I had it to spare so I'd give it a go. I found the course useful, some stuff I already knew but alot of new ideas. I'm looking forward to trying out some of these new strategies. Thanks again OP, I enjoyed it and was well worth my 100m :) +1

Serianda Novah	Posted - 2010.05.17 23:55:00 - [101] I also took this course. Below is the brutal honesty the OP asked for in his feedback. I did learn things from this course, but it was borderline worth it for me. In short, the OP was genuine in his willingness to teach and instrumental in his method of teaching. It was somewhat informal and the student is able to interject whenever to ask questions. Most of what he told me I already knew, but he brought the information together to formulate certain strategies or points that one may not have found out without sufficient knowledge about trading mechanics. I do have a background in finance so it would be why I did not find it as informative as others. I do recommend traders to take his course. He does all the work for you and gives you the information you need to know. The alternative is to gather the information through experiance or online and compile it yourself. I am lazy and thats why I have done the former.
Joseph Marsh Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.18 08:05:00 - [102] I took the course last night. For someone that want to start with the trading, this course is excellent. He will teach you everything you need to know about trading: how to use the market, hoe to find what to trade, how to find where to trade. As others said, there are things that i discovered from the little experience that i have on the market, but there are others that didn't even cross my mind. Also, the tutorial has real in game examples to show you the strategies, and this is good to get a hold of the market.
Check 1234	Posted - 2010.05.18 11:08:00 - [103] Can you stop getting 2354345345 alts posting here bumping this stupid post please. Thanks. This is a dumb idea. Go away.
Joseph Marsh Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.18 13:20:00 - [104] Originally by: Check 1234 Can you stop getting 2354345345 alts posting here bumping this stupid post please. Thanks. This is a dumb idea. Go away. This statement is illogical. If all the replays are from the alts of the same person, that means that the person has a lot of paying accounts (at least 6). In this case he has either a good method of making ISK in game, or he is has a lot of money in RL (not everybody can afford 90 euro a month for a game). You can say that the method of making ISK is scaming. But in this case, this thread should be full of people complaining of being scamed by the lessons, and we don't see that. And if he has a good method of making ISK in the game, and the tutorial is not a scam, then it must be good. On the other hand, if he has a lot of money in RL, why bother teaching others about the market in eve for 100 mil ISK? The tutorial is by no means the holly grail of eve trading, but is very good for someone that want to start trading, or was trading blindly.
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve	Posted - 2010.05.18 14:00:00 - [105] I will take this course, let me know when you can talk, and transfer ISK :)
Caleb Ayrania Gallente TarNec	Posted - 2010.05.19 01:22:00 - [106] Eargerly awaiting Ji Samas review. Pass the popcorn please.. Oh and ofc confirming that Ji need to learn to trade.. Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge Got Game? Peak a boo...
Lani Sun	Posted - 2010.05.19 04:28:00 - [107] this looks to be overpriced, even the people who contacted me about my version of the isk making school, only wanted to pay 10 or 20 mill, cest la vie, a little isk is better than nothing hey. anyway i have 5 paid pupils already. so its working IIIBLADEIII, just not as profitable as i hoped it would be.
Dasola Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.19 05:17:00 - [108] Originally by: Lani Sun this looks to be overpriced, even the people who contacted me about my version of the isk making school, only wanted to pay 10 or 20 mill, cest la vie, a little isk is better than nothing hey. anyway i have 5 paid pupils already. so its working IIIBLADEIII, just not as profitable as i hoped it would be. Isint that copyright violation for you to resell his material without his permission to do so? Not to mention ripping off someone elses hard work. I quess some people are willing to do anything for a buck.
Lecherito	Posted - 2010.05.19 07:20:00 - [109] Originally by: Lani Sun this looks to be overpriced, even the people who contacted me about my version of the isk making school, only wanted to pay 10 or 20 mill, cest la vie, a little isk is better than nothing hey. anyway i have 5 paid pupils already. so its working IIIBLADEIII, just not as profitable as i hoped it would be. That's pretty weak ****, brah. If chance has it that we should run into each other, I will end you. -L
Rhivre Caldari TarNec	Posted - 2010.05.19 08:14:00 - [110] Edited by: Rhivre on 19/05/2010 08:20:03 Originally by: Lani Sun this looks to be overpriced, even the people who contacted me about my version of the isk making school, only wanted to pay 10 or 20 mill, cest la vie, a little isk is better than nothing hey. anyway i have 5 paid pupils already. so its working IIIBLADEIII, just not as profitable as i hoped it would be. Much as I have taken issue with IIIBLADEIII in this thread, I have stated my problem is charging for the classes. However, what you are doing is pathetic....charging for info + using someone elses work.

Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.05.19 08:18:00 - [111] Originally by: Lani Sun anyway i have 5 paid pupils already. so its working IIIBLADEIII, just not as profitable as i hoped it would be. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Locking thread for two reasons. The first one is that we please ask that you put threads you wish to sell things from in the Sell Order forum, and second please only sell in-game items on the forums. You can see the Sell Order forum rules for more information if you wish. After your admission of breaking the forums rules and the game TOS/EULA, we can only wonder if CCP will ban you. Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.

CCP Applebabe	Posted - 2010.05.19 08:55:00 - [112] Thread has been cleaned up. Please make sure your post stay on topic. Applebabe Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us

Xi 'xar	Posted - 2010.05.19 13:31:00 - [113] I took the course earlier today. From the perspective of an trading noob (me), It is clear that the OP knows what he is talking about and I gained some valuable insight into trading and how to actually go about it. I do think that the course is aimed more at a person who hasn't been able to figure out trading yet. That said, it was a good introduction to trading for me. The course was also well run and it seemed to me that the OP had a reasonable insight into how to teach the course. I do feel that the price for the course was a bit high, but then I suppose I will see how much isk I make out of this... time will tell.
Kalanar Wrecking Shots Hostile Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.20 01:38:00 - [114] Inb4 Ji Sama review: "Blew my mind, never knew that about trading". :) I'm interested to see what Ji says though, seriously. I'm pretty sure I know how to station trade as well as the rest, but I might even take it.
Ji Sama Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve	Posted - 2010.05.20 06:04:00 - [115] The course was well presented and very informative, it was a walk-through in basic eve trading 101. I learned nothing I didn't already know, and there was nothing presented in the course, that you could not learn on your own, or in one of the trading channels for free. That being said, if the OP lowered his prices, and aimed this at inexperienced or unsuccessful traders, he might have a real market. The benefit of his product, is that you get some semi-solo time with the OP wherein you can ask questions etc.
IIIBLADEIII	Posted - 2010.05.20 10:13:00 - [116] Updated information about the course and generally just cleaned and tided. New Thread
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2010.05.20 10:38:00 - [117] While I think you are a touch overpriced I applaud your efforts. (Though in retrospect - in the long run 100m is damn cheap!) Glad to see you are updating and refining your thread and lecture. To stop Lani from being any more of an ass I'd report your original post with the words "Please lock this thread". Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame.

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.20 11:23:00 - [118] Thread locked on request of OP. A new thread has been created here. Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online



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