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Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.07.11 04:30:00 -
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I just got a GTX 680 about a week ago. Since I installed the new card (and nVidia's latest WHQL driver [301.42 IIRC]) I've been getting periodic display driver crashes where I lose video signal for a few seconds and the machine then recovers, but my framerates go down to 5-10 fps.
At first I thought I might have a DOA 680, but after hours playing other games (BF3, SC2, League of Legends, etc) and running FurMark burn-in tests I've been unable to replicate the problem. The crashes only seem to happen while running EVE. I've just installed the latest beta driver to see if that helps at all, but I was wondering if anyone else is having the same issue.
Oh, I'm usually triple-boxing in fixed-window mode when it happens, fwiw. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
338
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Posted - 2012.07.11 08:50:00 -
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in my experience Firefox is causing such driver crashes, especially the download window I believe. In any case I could never track down driver crashes to eve. |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.07.11 09:59:00 -
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I don't use firefox.
Just played several hours worth of BF3 without any issues. I'm puzzled. I guess I'll play some eve tomorrow and see if I can make it happen again. |
Lili Lu
307
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Posted - 2012.07.11 15:20:00 -
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You know, maybe that is what's happening for me and other folks with nvidea cards. I described it as the game locking for 30 seconds to a minute. The eve window goes black or freezes. Also often I lose the ability to use the mouse. Then it clears. But it could be as you say.
Unfortunately it keeps occuring more and more often. I posted quite a few times on these threads about this. No it's not my computer. It has no problems otherwise, only while playing eve. I've tried many things. Disabled various things etc.
It would be nice if some dev could respond in one of these threads and acknowledge there is a problem with the game and/or how it is interacting with video cards and drivers. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
343
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Posted - 2012.07.11 16:19:00 -
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nVidia drivers crash on many occassions, not only eve, so I dont think its something eve related. I'm curious when nVidia finally fixes their fuggin drivers. Its better than complete comp freezes like in the case of AMD chips but still very annoying thing. |
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
880
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Posted - 2012.07.11 18:17:00 -
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I'm having the same problem, but only when multiboxing and only when there are 200+ on grid. The latest set of beta drivers have some funky issue where the mouse pointer goes away, however: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/win8-win7-winvista-64bit-304.79-beta-driver-uk.html driver set works so far (touch wood) ~ |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.07.12 00:16:00 -
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I just downloaded what I assumed were the latest betas last night, and I did see something in the release notes about fixing a bug with hardware cursor rendering in some games FWIW. I just checked my download history and 304.79 is indeed what I installed last night. Seems to be working well so far (though I haven't put 3 clients on the same grid full of missles yet today) and I noticed last night that my BF3 framerate is much more consistent / smooth as well, so I guess they fixed their adaptive vsync stutter problem. |
Lili Lu
307
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Posted - 2012.07.13 01:54:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote: I just downloaded what I assumed were the latest betas last night, and I did see something in the release notes about fixing a bug with hardware cursor rendering in some games FWIW. I just checked my download history and 304.79 is indeed what I installed last night. Seems to be working well so far (though I haven't put 3 clients on the same grid full of missles yet today) and I noticed last night that my BF3 framerate is much more consistent / smooth as well, so I guess they fixed their adaptive vsync stutter problem.
Has it become better?
I just tried this. Downloaded the beta driver. In fact it got worse. Freeze ups occurred more frequently. So the new beta driver did not fix things for me.
These problems started with one of the follow up patches to Inferno. I wish I could remember which one. Something was done with one of them that started the cycle of freeze ups. Little did I know then that the very occasional freeze would become more and more frequent. My worry now is that whatever this problem is has embedded itself in places that are multiplying it's effects and will spillover to anything I do. Even non eve functions.
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Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2012.07.13 04:36:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:Ganthrithor wrote: I just downloaded what I assumed were the latest betas last night, and I did see something in the release notes about fixing a bug with hardware cursor rendering in some games FWIW. I just checked my download history and 304.79 is indeed what I installed last night. Seems to be working well so far (though I haven't put 3 clients on the same grid full of missles yet today) and I noticed last night that my BF3 framerate is much more consistent / smooth as well, so I guess they fixed their adaptive vsync stutter problem. Has it become better? I just tried this. Downloaded the beta driver. In fact it got worse. Freeze ups occurred more frequently. So the new beta driver did not fix things for me. These problems started with one of the follow up patches to Inferno. I wish I could remember which one. Something was done with one of them that started the cycle of freeze ups. Little did I know then that the very occasional freeze would become more and more frequent. My worry now is that whatever this problem is has embedded itself in places that are multiplying it's effects and will spillover to anything I do. Even non eve functions.
Odd. I haven't had a single instance since changing to the beta driver. I've been playing a fair amount of EVE as well, so you'd think it would have happened again by now if it was going to. |
Innominate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
191
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Posted - 2012.07.14 16:25:00 -
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Elise Randolph wrote:I'm having the same problem, but only when multiboxing and only when there are 200+ on grid.
I'm using the 301.42 drivers and am/was having this exact problem, and specifically only having it in large fights. SOMETHING I did stopped though. I'm not entirely sure which because the situations which trigger it are unusual and about the worst time ot have your graphics driver crashing. It was some combination of turning my page file back on(woops), and turning off Camera Shake, Ship Explosions, Drone Models, and Trails. I suspect the crashes are being caused by trails but haven't been able to properly test the theory. |
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Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
292
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Posted - 2012.07.16 07:35:00 -
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FWIW I still haven't had a driver recovery incident since switching to 304.79. |
Lili Lu
309
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Posted - 2012.07.18 13:52:00 -
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There is something more complex going on. My little laptop with 301.42 has been working fine with that driver and the previous driver i had on it. My desktop started having problems with the version of the nvidia driver I had on it. I then updated to 301.42 and the problems became worse. So i updated to the beta 304.79, and they got even worse.
I've tried getting all game settings the same on both computers. I have disabled windows composition as it was disabled on the lappy, etc. The remaining only differences between the two computers is that the desktop is running vista 32 bit (being older) and has a different nvidia card and mouse/driver, the lappy is running seven 64bit. I mention the mouse because as the problem became worse any mouse movement would seem to trigger it, even docked in station with all effects off (i.e. nothing moving on the screen).
Just in reading all the threads people are reporting similar and different problems with eve and eve alone (like me) with varying systems, operating systems, and video cards. It seems to me that there is something to changes that were made to the patches with inferno around the end of June, beginning of July, that isn't getting along with drivers of all kinds for those of us unlucky enough to have the wrong settings somewhere. I wish CCP would acknowledge that they are aware of a problem that manifested at that time and are working to find and fix it. |
Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
63
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Posted - 2012.07.18 21:43:00 -
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Yup, GTX 680 user here with similar problems since installing the card at the end of April. Initially, the fault occured once a week, but since around July 13th it has been happening pretty much every day (see below for windows Action Center problem details report). All drivers are up to date, 12MB RAM, i7 x980 @ 3.98 GHz, Win 7 Pro (64 bit), one monitor, usually two clients running, but nothing else gfx taxing.
Normally running at 60 FPS on both clients but after fault occurs, the FPS is up and down like a yo-yo. I end up having to dock up, log out and restart my PC. I honestly don't know if Eve has anything to do with this or if it is a case of bugged gfx card drivers, but it really annoying
Description A problem with your video hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.
Problem signature Problem Event Name:LiveKernelEvent OS Version:6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48 Locale ID:2057
Extra information about the problem BCCode:117 BCP1:FFFFFA800FC37300 BCP2:FFFFF8800F1C54D4 BCP3:0000000000000000 BCP4:0000000000000000 OS Version:6_1_7601 Service Pack:1_0 Product:256_1 Bucket ID:X64_0x117_Tdr:2_IMAGE_nvlddmkm.sys Server information:a52e44ec-12a0-4ddc-937c-981a5f141a77 |
Evil Rose
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.07.19 13:52:00 -
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Having the same problem with my 670. running the latest drivers from nvidia not beta |
Redundandis
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.07.23 18:08:00 -
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Confirming I too have this problem with my 680.
Good to see I'm not the only one.
Bad to see it seems to get worse :-/ Gonna try the beta driver mentioned above. |
Lucretia Eldritch
Shits and Giggles
0
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:09:00 -
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I bought an EVGA GeForce 560Ti as this is the very one recommended and in fact promoted and given away by CCP for optimal display in Eve. WRONG! I run Win7 32 bit, 3Gb RAM, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+, 550w PSU. I replaced my superbly reliable 8800gts with this piece of garbage. The Nvidia 296.10 drivers that I installed then crashed every 30 minutes or so no matter what I'm doing, game or not. Eve looked hideously mangled, gfx all over the shop, tearing and spikes and gods know what. I rolled back to version 280.26 and tweaked the GPU with EVGA Precision X, lowering the GPU volts and frequency to something like an 8800. This sorted it for a while but now it's broken again. Maybe it's the hot weather? No, the monitoring shows it running at 34 degs C. So now, I tried the latest nVidia drivers - 301.42 - and it's even more broken in Eve. Nasty fizzling pixelation, tearing, etc. I'm about to install the beta drivers 304.79 for Win 7 32 bit. I suspect it will still be a total fail.
So thanks CCP for recommending a duff GFX card. I think I'll go back to my 8800. Ugh. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
219
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Posted - 2012.07.25 12:28:00 -
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This has been a recurring issue for years now. I thought I had it nailed down to a version of Firefox running and showing Flash video but that was ages ago now, so it wasn't that.
The only reliable solution I ever found was to turn off the Aero interface in Windows 7 - either that or run Eve full-screen rather than fixed window, which isn't really any sort of solution if you multibox.
Its nothing to do with NVidia drivers - NVidia looked at this years ago IIRC and said the driver crash wasn't triggered by the Eve executable.
I still think its something to do with Flash and web browsers running in the background. |
Redundandis
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.07.25 16:00:00 -
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Oddly enough since i installed the beta driver i had no crashes whatsoever. Everything works smoothly at the moment. We shall see. |
Lili Lu
311
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Posted - 2012.07.25 21:26:00 -
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Othran wrote:This has been a recurring issue for years now. I thought I had it nailed down to a version of Firefox running and showing Flash video but that was ages ago now, so it wasn't that.
The only reliable solution I ever found was to turn off the Aero interface in Windows 7 - either that or run Eve full-screen rather than fixed window, which isn't really any sort of solution if you multibox.
Its nothing to do with NVidia drivers - NVidia looked at this years ago IIRC and said the driver crash wasn't triggered by the Eve executable.
I still think its something to do with Flash and web browsers running in the background. No. It is happening without anything else running.
Regardless, maybe they are working on it. With the last patch to the singularity client my desktop was able to run it somewhat better. The freeze ups occurred less often and were associated to obvious video processing events, like undocking. However, some were assciated with market calls. Don't know how that could be video card related.
Would still really like some announcement on one of these threads that CCP is aware they have a problem and are working on it. |
Adrian Dixon
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction -affliction-
61
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Posted - 2012.07.27 11:53:00 -
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I have been having this problem with my GTX 260. I also believe it has something to do with alt-tabbing between firefox with youtube running and the game. |
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Lili Lu
332
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:47:00 -
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Still waiting CCP. Game still ****** on some computers. Have you found the problem yet? Are you working on it? |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
366
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Posted - 2012.08.06 17:46:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:Still waiting CCP. Game still ****** on some computers. Have you found the problem yet? Are you working on it?
I've the same issue but not only with eve. Its nVidia driver issues, talk to nVidia. |
Redundandis
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:23:00 -
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Oh yeah,
confirming the Nvidia Beta Driver did the trick for me. Everything works smoothly now. |
Hasentaenzer
Cataclysm Enterprises Ev0ke
0
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Posted - 2012.08.21 18:08:00 -
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Thanks for the hint guys! Sounds like pretty the same problem I have, additionally in big fleets.
Will check out if it helped or not.
Fly safe o7 |
Fairy Muff
manic mantics
0
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Posted - 2012.08.22 10:47:00 -
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Random system freezes have been seriously bugging me now for weeks. Never had a problem with EVE before. I updated everything - but nothing seemed to work. I, like others in this thread, had a feeling it was somehow Flash related.
So rather than updating Flash at the first opportunity I uninstalled the latest version and rolled back to 11.2.202.235 plug-in (Firefox), the version released before my PC started locking up...
...and my system has been stable now for over a week - no crashes at all (fingers crossed), even when running two clients. Hope this 'fix' will work for you guys too
Direct download links for Flash Player 11.2.202.235 (Windows):
ActiveX installer for Internet Explorer on 64-bit systems
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/licensing/win /install_flash_player_11_active_x_64bit.exe
Plugin installer for other browsers on 64-bit systems
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/licensing/win /install_flash_player_11_plugin_64bit.exe
ActiveX installer for Internet Explorer on 32-bit systems
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/licensing/win /install_flash_player_11_active_x_32bit.exe
Plugin installer for other browsers on 32-bit systems
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/current/licensing/win /install_flash_player_11_plugin_32bit.exe |
Malakithos
Takahashi Syndicate Takahashi Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.08.22 17:15:00 -
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I'm having problems as well with EvE some along the same lines with you guys. I noticed the problem started after the 1.2.4 Inferno patch last Tuesday. My graphics card is a Geforce GTX 560M and I've tried using the last WHQL driver released in May to the latest beta driver that has come out. The only difference in my problem is that my entire system will freeze and I have to hard restart my laptop by holding down the power button for a couple seconds. |
Sala Teng
Goosevillage Connection
2
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Posted - 2012.08.28 07:34:00 -
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just wanted to chip in: same problems here, Win7/64, nVidia GTX 570, non-beta 301.42, 2 clients, 2 displays: intermittent freezes, sometimes windows is able to recover it, mostly not.
downgrading the graphics in eve doesn-Št help, even in "low"-settings the machine freezes.
wait, see, hope...
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Redundandis
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.08.28 15:06:00 -
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Sala Teng wrote:just wanted to chip in: same problems here, Win7/64, nVidia GTX 570, non-beta 301.42, 2 clients, 2 displays: intermittent freezes, sometimes windows is able to recover it, mostly not.
downgrading the graphics in eve doesn-Št help, even in "low"-settings the machine freezes.
wait, see, hope...
Can only recommend the beta driver 304.79. Fixed all the issues for me. |
Lili Lu
367
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Posted - 2012.08.28 21:38:00 -
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Redundandis wrote:Sala Teng wrote:just wanted to chip in: same problems here, Win7/64, nVidia GTX 570, non-beta 301.42, 2 clients, 2 displays: intermittent freezes, sometimes windows is able to recover it, mostly not.
downgrading the graphics in eve doesn-Št help, even in "low"-settings the machine freezes.
wait, see, hope...
Can only recommend the beta driver 304.79. Fixed all the issues for me. Did not for me. My desktop is still fubarred for eve with that driver. Meawhile my laptop keeps motoring fine with 301.42. Sadly, the problem, whatever it is, is not as simple as a which driver version.
I'm experimenting with the flash player active x version suggestion itt above. Can't seem to get my desktop to load the old version for the active x. It loaded the plugin for that version fine though. ******* computers, can't live with them can't live without them. Well you can but it would mean no eve. |
Justicar Eisenhorn Oksaras
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.08.29 12:22:00 -
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I haven't played since about the End of June.
Decided to renew my sub and play some more. . .low and behold I can't even undock the game runs so slow.
I used to run at max settings and it was silky smooth, now even if I set everything to low/disabled I barely push 10fps no matter where I am in game.
This sucks. At this rate, it's nothing but a $15 waste on my end. |
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