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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 12:20:00 -
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Auction
Starting Bid - 10bil
min increment - 100mil
Buyout - None, or make me a offer i cant refuse
reserve - Hidden
15 mins sniper rule
Auction ends at 14th of May , 8:30 AM EST / 1:30 AM GMT
Locals love it, and passerbys can't believe they see it =) Starts a lot of conversations, and is a terrific recruiting tool.
There was some controversy on whether or not this carrier exists, it does. I have it parked on the Osomonne (sp?) gate when I'm afk or just bored. Come take a look =)
I have included the rules below to show potential buyers that there are rules associated with it.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Capitals_in_Highsec#What_are_highsec_capitals.3F
Since these ships are relics from the past of New Eden, their simple existence actually conflicts with the current state of EVE Online. The GM team has therefor issued the following rules for these capitals in high security space, which everybody that has one or plans to buy one should be aware of:
Warning:
1. Capital ships may under no circumstances be used for aggression.
2. If at war, or with war declaration pending, you may not take your capital ship out of station.
3. You may not use your capital shipÆs attributes to gain any sort of advantage over other players while in high security space.
4. Breach any of the above and receive 2 weeks ban and off to low sec with your capital.
Known legal activities
Following is a list of activities that are widely regarded as fair use of these ships. This may change, so do not rely solely on this information here.
1. Showing off
2. Mining
Prior to the formalization of the rules by GM Grimmi, mock pvp fights with members of your own player corporation were also known to happen throughout New Eden and did not conflict with the vague guidelines at the times. Whether this is still legal under the current rules or not is unknown to the author.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1005/2010.05.05.21.53.08.jpg
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astasinou
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.07 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: astasinou on 07/05/2010 13:42:04
Funker,
I wish you all the best in getting the isk you want for this carrier. I realize it has a special status due to its location in Eve, and therefore a somewhat increased corresponding value. However, Eve central tells me that there are currently 8 Nidhoggur's for sale at a price of less than 700M isk, with the lowest being at a very cheap 674M isk. Although even using the median sales price of 720M isk, that still means I could buy just under 14 carrier hulls for just the initial entrance level bid on this "special" carrier. Now I realize that their are many people in Eve with more isk than sense so I fully expect you to get what want for this ship. But as for me, I cannot envision spending that much on a ship that will be overall useless. Best regards in any event, fly safe!
Ast
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: FunkerVogt on 07/05/2010 13:46:48
It's a unique item :)
Probably won't come around often
It's actually not that bad to mine with, when at work or whatever.
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Lani Sun
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Posted - 2010.05.07 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lani Sun on 07/05/2010 14:18:23
Any carrier in 0.8-1.0 sec has ended up there as a reimbursment as they never could have been built there.
The ability to build at highsec stations was removed before the carriers were released, so those that were built in highsec came from POS's.
Your carrier will only have excess value if you can get a GM to confirm that it wont be relocated back to low sec.
Unfortunatly in your case, as your carrier does not belong in Hi sec, you will most likely have it moved. So anyone paying over base price for this (700 mill) will be losing a lot of isk.
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: FunkerVogt on 07/05/2010 14:28:07
Lani, get over it already. You don't know what you're talking about. Quit trolling my auction.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Veldnaught
Oh, that's a dread in a 1.0 system, isn't it?
I'll get a chatlog to shut you up.
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Lani Sun
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Posted - 2010.05.07 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Lani Sun on 07/05/2010 14:32:52
 Originally by: FunkerVogt
Edited by: FunkerVogt on 07/05/2010 14:28:07
Lani, get over it already. You don't know what you're talking about. Quit trolling my auction.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Veldnaught
Oh, that's a dread in a 1.0 system, isn't it?
I'll get a chatlog to shut you up.
hmm, that doesnt look like a carrier to me. as said there are no legitimate carriers in any system thats higher than 0.7, unless an accidental reimbursement, which will be moved.
Now please answer this question.
Was your Carrier reimbursed (i know the answer is Yes).
So this will be moved to lowsec.
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Amanda Eidolo
Core Industrialist Resurrected
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Posted - 2010.05.07 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lani Sun
Edited by: Lani Sun on 07/05/2010 14:32:52hmm, that doesnt look like a carrier to me.
Then clearly you are a ******.
If you weren't so ignorant of the subject you would know that lots of carriers that are in highsec are there because of reimbursements. None of them are being shunted to lowsec unless the rules laid out by the GMs are broken.
Now stop trolling his thread.
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: FunkerVogt on 07/05/2010 15:43:39
It wasn't reimbursed. Cmon downtime, end already
http://no.xfire.com/video/4f9df/
Here's one. Oh my, it's in a .9 system, no way!!!
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Lani Sun
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Lani Sun on 07/05/2010 16:21:40
Originally by: Amanda Eidolo
Originally by: Lani Sun
Edited by: Lani Sun on 07/05/2010 14:32:52hmm, that doesnt look like a carrier to me.
Then clearly you are a ******.
If you weren't so ignorant of the subject you would know that lots of carriers that are in highsec are there because of reimbursements. None of them are being shunted to lowsec unless the rules laid out by the GMs are broken.
Now stop trolling his thread.
Clearly you are a moron then, as a dread does not a carrier make, and yes they have and are being moved from hisec to lowsec when incorrectly reimbursed into hisec where they should not be.
Originally by: FunkerVogt
Edited by: FunkerVogt on 07/05/2010 15:43:39
It wasn't reimbursed. Cmon downtime, end already
http://no.xfire.com/video/4f9df/
Here's one. Oh my, it's in a .9 system, no way!!!
thats clearly a lie.
and as said, they may be there for a short period of time, but they will be moved to lowsec where they should be if they weren't made in hisec. and as said carriers could never be made in 0.8 systems or above.
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:23:00 -
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Lani, did you not see the carrier in that vid? The one in a .9 system?
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NuckenFutz
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:32:00 -
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There is only 1 way a capital ship can remain in HS and that is if it was built in the system. Any other methods will result in the ship eventually being moved. There are 2 other ways for capitals to make it to HS. 1) Chars that logout in their ship and are gone 3+ months when the log back in they are in the station of their clone, the ship they were piloting will come with. 2) a reimbursement of a capital to HS, both of these will eventually result in the ship being moved to LS.
I believe you can petition a GM to verify that the ship is allowed to remain in HS but if its not then you are calling it to their attention that much quicker and it will be moved.
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:33:00 -
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Bumping a decent auction, would like to afford it, cannot.
Lani is also the worst troll I've seen in a long time. Good luck Funker!
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Originally by: GM Horse
Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things.
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:34:00 -
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Too bad downtime is still here, otherwise I'd have the GM chat available from a petition about the same subject. And I'll even petition it myself, again, just to shut you up. You're more than welcome to petition it yourself. It wasn't reimbursed in the system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BJL2LW96gI
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1247844/page/1
http://eve-online.itemdrop.net/eve_db/universe/sinq_laison/coriault/dodixie/
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: FunkerVogt
It wasn't reimbursed in the system.
As I try my best to keep EVE history, I'd love to hear the story of the ship, either here in a private mail.
Seeing as to my knowledge the only way of getting a Carrier into 0.8-1.0 is by either a) Exploit or b) GM ship reimbursement.
So feel free to drop me a mail with the history of this lovely ship.
/c
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
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Sonya Kranz
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Posted - 2010.05.07 17:22:00 -
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as far as i know, the Charon freighter with max skills was once able to move carriers through high sec, hence they could end up there apart from reimbursement.
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The Antiquarian
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Posted - 2010.05.07 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: The Antiquarian on 07/05/2010 17:34:37
As much as I want this ship as well, I don't see why it's wrong for perspective buyers to be very skeptical of the seller's offer. After all, we are not talking about trades worth hundreds of millions of ISK, but tens of billions.
It would be nice to get a copy of chat log with GM, but I know that's not allowed to be posted here. Unless you can entice the forum GMs to post something to assure us, I think this will be a hard sell.
The seller posted the link regarding CCP's stance on carriers/dreadnaughts. Perhaps the seller overlooked the CCP link, but reasonable readers can pretty much deduce from the reading that when the ships are allowed in high-sec, CCP is only referring to the ships that were still in construction @ hi-sec. Chribba is absolutely right. It's awesome that you got this beautiful ship in hi-sec, but how did you get the ship there in the first place? You still didn't give us a clarification as to how you obtained this ship?
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: FunkerVogt on 07/05/2010 18:37:20
Been sitting there for a looong time. The account it was on I forgot I had until I was flipping through some mails the other day and logged in. And I'm hooked on this game again. I was going to jump it out but a buddy told me how valuable it was, and I about fell out of my chair.
Gonna log in and see the chat log, how old it is. Really old, I know that much ;)
Pretty sure it was the first carrier I've had, too. Lost a few over the years.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1019725/page/1
I'll petition it personaly IF THE SERVER EVER COMES UP AHHHH!!!!!!!
Game servers only go down on days I take off work to game, I swear.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.07 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: FunkerVogt
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1019725/page/1
Thanks, that was very interesting to read, wasn't aware that ever happened  Figured CCP had that sorted since WH's were introduced so many years after high-sec nerf, so deffo looking forward to the outcome of this thread (as the ship onbviously got there due to a bug).
Again, thanks for the history
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 19:13:00 -
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It's permitted to stay. I'm doublechecking when I log in. And petitioning it, again. Just to be safe.
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Gizan
Hounds Of War
Shadows of Light
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Posted - 2010.05.07 19:32:00 -
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YOu can file the petiton online, as well as look at your old petitions. just goto the eve support tab and goto petitions.
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.07 19:40:00 -
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OH nice!
Didn't know that, thanks
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.09 02:40:00 -
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Waiting on petition still. Think the db issue made a ton of petitions - is it ok to evemail ppl things about petitions? That way I can show it to ppl if they have any questions
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.10 19:25:00 -
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Receieved a response to my own petition, just to clarify and to SHUT LANI UP.
It is perfectly legal, it's legitimate, and it stays where it is unless rules are forfeited. Dron control units and cap ship boosters are permitted, too.
If anyone has any questions regarding the carrier, please don't hesitate to contact me via evemail or chat.
Auction is still continuing.
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.11 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: The Antiquarian
Edited by: The Antiquarian on 07/05/2010 17:34:37
As much as I want this ship as well, I don't see why it's wrong for perspective buyers to be very skeptical of the seller's offer. After all, we are not talking about trades worth hundreds of millions of ISK, but tens of billions.
It would be nice to get a copy of chat log with GM, but I know that's not allowed to be posted here. Unless you can entice the forum GMs to post something to assure us, I think this will be a hard sell.
The seller posted the link regarding CCP's stance on carriers/dreadnaughts. Perhaps the seller overlooked the CCP link, but reasonable readers can pretty much deduce from the reading that when the ships are allowed in high-sec, CCP is only referring to the ships that were still in construction @ hi-sec. Chribba is absolutely right. It's awesome that you got this beautiful ship in hi-sec, but how did you get the ship there in the first place? You still didn't give us a clarification as to how you obtained this ship?
I can tell you in-game if you evemail me, no problem, just uncertain how or what the rules are pertaining to GM conversations. The rules are laid right up front at the beginning of the auction, just so people are very clear to what they are receiving, and what the rules are pertaining to a cap in highsec.
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Jocasta Jones
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Posted - 2010.05.11 08:49:00 -
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Nice to see this has been sorted out.
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.11 09:26:00 -
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It really shouldn't have been such a big issue, but Lani trolled this auction twice, so I took it upon myself to clarify the rules, show that it's legitimate, and that if anyone has any concerns, I could help point them to answers to their questions. Mostly just getting rid of the troll.
I did have on evemail stating that the lower GMs would be overruled by a higher GM, or that concern - I never heard of something like that happening. It'd be bad business, really. Follow the rules and don't screw it up or play games with it, it's common sense.
I'll post the question I phrased, too.
I spoke to some one - forgot who - about it and I followed the rules for a cap ship still in high sec. If I recall correctly, another player reported it and I spoke to a GM.
I haven't touched it much since then - did a little mining - and forgot it existed. I've recently returned to the game and found it sitting in my hangar, where a friend pointed out that it is a very rare ship; some people are challenging the legitimacy of it being in said system, even though I mined for a couple months and followed the rules to a T.
It's still a valid ship in its location, correct? And a couple questions clarifying the rules for it - since turrets have been stripped, I can no longer use miner mods, and this rule
3. You may not use your capital shipÆs attributes to gain any sort of advantage over other players while in high security space.
Would drone control units forfeit the rule? As well as cap ship shield booster / armor rep. I'll fit large mods, instead (theyre not fitted at the moment).
Thanks for the help =)
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.11 23:07:00 -
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Auction still going
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FunkerVogt
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Posted - 2010.05.13 02:16:00 -
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^^
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screwball 82
Gallente
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 05:58:00 -
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remember seeing that mining months ago in scolluzer
CANT BELIEVE YOUR SELLING IT
gl with selling dude
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CanBaLaNcE
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:39:00 -
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1bill
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