Originally by: Malcanis

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Counter-proposal: CONCORD stop rescuing people for free. It's unrealistic as hell (amirite?) and it is hugely unfair that the player merc corps should have their livelihoods WRECKED by unfair NPC competition. How could miners make a living if NPCs gave a million units of free minerals to anyone who asked? That's how unfair it is.

I propose that people should have to buy their protection from CONCORD like everything else. If you dont pay, they wont lift a finger to help. Fees should be roughly equivalent to what player mercs charge, with corp and alliance contracts available. 100 mill a week for an individual, or 500m for a corp or 2.5 bill for an alliance sounds about right - perhaps someone from REPO or NOIR could comment here?

Of course, there would be no obvious way to tell if someone was protected or not, but what the hey, sometimes you have to take risks, and hugely increasing the costs and penalties of playstyles we dont like are what whinethreads in the Assembly are all about right...?

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Counter-proposal: CONCORD stop rescuing people for free. It's unrealistic as hell (amirite?) and it is hugely unfair that the player merc corps should have their livelihoods WRECKED by unfair NPC competition. How could miners make a living if NPCs gave a million units of free minerals to anyone who asked? That's how unfair it is.

I propose that people should have to buy their protection from CONCORD like everything else. If you dont pay, they wont lift a finger to help. Fees should be roughly equivalent to what player mercs charge, with corp and alliance contracts available. 100 mill a week for an individual, or 500m for a corp or 2.5 bill for an alliance sounds about right - perhaps someone from REPO or NOIR could comment here?

Of course, there would be no obvious way to tell if someone was protected or not, but what the hey, sometimes you have to take risks, and hugely increasing the costs and penalties of playstyles we dont like are what whinethreads in the Assembly are all about right...?

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Originally by: Liang Nuren

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Counter-proposal: CONCORD stop rescuing people for free. It's unrealistic as hell (amirite?) and it is hugely unfair that the player merc corps should have their livelihoods WRECKED by unfair NPC competition. How could miners make a living if NPCs gave a million units of free minerals to anyone who asked? That's how unfair it is.

I propose that people should have to buy their protection from CONCORD like everything else. If you dont pay, they wont lift a finger to help. Fees should be roughly equivalent to what player mercs charge, with corp and alliance contracts available. 100 mill a week for an individual, or 500m for a corp or 2.5 bill for an alliance sounds about right - perhaps someone from REPO or NOIR could comment here?

Of course, there would be no obvious way to tell if someone was protected or not, but what the hey, sometimes you have to take risks, and hugely increasing the costs and penalties of playstyles we dont like are what whinethreads in the Assembly are all about right...?

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This is a fantastic idea and a good example of critical thinking. Unlike the OP.

-Liang

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Originally by: Dirk Mortice

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I suggest that concord should be removed from the game entirely [...]

Should the player get shot, the protection force gains killrights on the aggressor, and should pursue them for "great vengeance"

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Originally by: Adiu Tor

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IMHO those who raise the "major" argument that EVE was intended to be hardcore or whatever have to realize that the game has evolved (undermined you would call it). The fact that there is a special industrial expansion is coming up shows that CCP concedes that the game has evolved and is no longer a pure PVP game.

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Counter-proposal: CONCORD stop rescuing people for free. It's unrealistic as hell (amirite?) and it is hugely unfair that the player merc corps should have their livelihoods WRECKED by unfair NPC competition. How could miners make a living if NPCs gave a million units of free minerals to anyone who asked? That's how unfair it is.

I propose that people should have to buy their protection from CONCORD like everything else. If you dont pay, they wont lift a finger to help. Fees should be roughly equivalent to what player mercs charge, with corp and alliance contracts available. 100 mill a week for an individual, or 500m for a corp or 2.5 bill for an alliance sounds about right - perhaps someone from REPO or NOIR could comment here?

Of course, there would be no obvious way to tell if someone was protected or not, but what the hey, sometimes you have to take risks, and hugely increasing the costs and penalties of playstyles we dont like are what whinethreads in the Assembly are all about right...?

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Counter-proposal: CONCORD stop rescuing people for free.

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Counter-proposal: CONCORD stop rescuing people for free. It's unrealistic as hell (amirite?) and it is hugely unfair that the player merc corps should have their livelihoods WRECKED by unfair NPC competition. How could miners make a living if NPCs gave a million units of free minerals to anyone who asked? That's how unfair it is.

I propose that people should have to buy their protection from CONCORD like everything else. If you dont pay, they wont lift a finger to help. Fees should be roughly equivalent to what player mercs charge, with corp and alliance contracts available. 100 mill a week for an individual, or 500m for a corp or 2.5 bill for an alliance sounds about right - perhaps someone from REPO or NOIR could comment here?

Of course, there would be no obvious way to tell if someone was protected or not, but what the hey, sometimes you have to take risks, and hugely increasing the costs and penalties of playstyles we dont like are what whinethreads in the Assembly are all about right...?

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Quote:

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The Crying Pirate: Pirate Breaks Down in Court

This case could go from zero to FDLS in less than 60 seconds if the Obama administration isnÆt careful. WeÆve got a 16-year-old æpirateÆ from Somalia in a New York courtroom crying poor mouth. What could go wrong? How long until a wave of public sympathy (and, in turn, world sympathy) forms for this guy?

A judge today ruled that Abdulwali Muse will be tried as an adult. It should be noted that in truth we have no clue how old this guy actually is. His mother claims heÆs only 16 but the government thinks heÆs much older. HeÆs a pathetic piece of art in the courtroom ù Muse stands just 5′4″ and has a cast on one arm. He doesnÆt understand our judicial system and he barely speaks English. If you buy the story his parents are selling, heÆs a wayward child that skipped school and was missing for two weeks. If you buy the governments tale, heÆs a dangerous æpirateÆ hellbent on initiating a war on the high seas. By the time this whole thing is over theyÆll be begging this kid to take a plea deal that admits guilt and accepts deportation back to his home country.

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Originally by: Dirk Mortice

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Counter-proposal: CONCORD stop rescuing people for free. It's unrealistic as hell (amirite?) and it is hugely unfair that the player merc corps should have their livelihoods WRECKED by unfair NPC competition. How could miners make a living if NPCs gave a million units of free minerals to anyone who asked? That's how unfair it is.

I propose that people should have to buy their protection from CONCORD like everything else. If you dont pay, they wont lift a finger to help. Fees should be roughly equivalent to what player mercs charge, with corp and alliance contracts available. 100 mill a week for an individual, or 500m for a corp or 2.5 bill for an alliance sounds about right - perhaps someone from REPO or NOIR could comment here?

Of course, there would be no obvious way to tell if someone was protected or not, but what the hey, sometimes you have to take risks, and hugely increasing the costs and penalties of playstyles we dont like are what whinethreads in the Assembly are all about right...?

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I suggest that concord should be removed from the game entirely, thus allowing mercenaries to truly become important in EVE. If the general trend with NPC goods is to try and remove them from the game, should we not try and replace NPC services with player services as well?

Players could choose their protection racket of choice, and pay them weekly. This allows them to wear a tag with the ticker of the protection force. Should the player get shot, the protection force gains killrights on the aggressor, and should pursue them for "great vengeance"

Eve should become free-for-all with players ensuring safety, and not some stupid in game rules and automatic no-fee ultra powerful protection force

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Originally by: I SoStoned

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^^^ this, already in place.

I just vote that the aggression timer be extended per attack by 15 extra minutes, or a multiple of their negative security status, whichever is greater, to keep them bottled up in a station for a little longer after each attack. And/Or provide CONCORD with remote logistics support to the stricken vessel, boosting their shields by as much as they're DPS'ing the criminal.

And perhaps an age/SP limit on any attempt to suicide in highsec to lower the number of disposable alts used for such attacks.

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Originally by: Dirk Mortice

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Edited by: Dirk Mortice on 09/05/2010 11:09:07
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Changed to hotlink, don't ban me

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Originally by: Malcanis

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Counter-proposal: CONCORD stop rescuing people for free. It's unrealistic as hell (amirite?) and it is hugely unfair that the player merc corps should have their livelihoods WRECKED by unfair NPC competition. How could miners make a living if NPCs gave a million units of free minerals to anyone who asked? That's how unfair it is.

I propose that people should have to buy their protection from CONCORD like everything else. If you dont pay, they wont lift a finger to help.

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