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FOTO1551	Posted - 2010.05.09 19:09:00 - [1] can anyone give advice on this ship? There is not a lot of info out there on the Panther. I am looking for great tank and fit for the Panther. Any help??
Max Tux	Posted - 2010.05.09 19:48:00 - [2] [Panther, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Caldari Navy Cloaking Device Covert Jump Portal Generator I Medium 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction Medium 'Atonement' I Ward Projector Medium 'Regard' I Power Projector Small Remote Hull Repair System I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Large Cargohold Optimization I Large Cargohold Optimization I Wasp EC-900 x5 cov-cyno ppl in, stay hidden till after the fight,
Nerogk Shorn Caldari Invicta. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.05.10 04:01:00 - [3] Other than the obviously unhelpful fit, I have too considered a few options for this ship. Really (and unfortunately) it is best fitted plated. This is contrary to its speed bonus, but like most black ops ships, its bonuses are just not very helpful. Other than that it really comes down to preference and a little thinking. MWD tackle injector maybe. Neuts or RR? Should you go full low slot tank (considering the low EHP of most Black Ops) or include a damage mod or two. It can, however, get some pretty nice dps if you fit it correctly. Personally, I would consider doing something with doing a longer range AC fit and stay around 20km if you can. It's a hard ship to fit in anyway respectable imo. The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
ShahFluffers Gallente Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2010.05.10 04:45:00 - [4] Originally by: Nerogk Shorn It's a hard ship to fit in anyway respectable imo. That's because it's not a direct combat ship... it's a combat SUPPORT ship. If you do take it into combat, it's usually after bridging over a platoon of other cloaky ships. Moreover, it has little need for a tank as the target should be dead or dying before you jump in. If you DO find yourself needing a tank after you jump in then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong. So no, that fit isn't unhelpful. Quite the opposite. It plays to the ship's role quite well. _______________________ "Just because I look like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown
Xilawrock Blub	Posted - 2010.05.10 12:28:00 - [5] Originally by: ShahFluffers Originally by: Nerogk Shorn It's a hard ship to fit in anyway respectable imo. That's because it's not a direct combat ship... it's a combat SUPPORT ship. If you do take it into combat, it's usually after bridging over a platoon of other cloaky ships. Moreover, it has little need for a tank as the target should be dead or dying before you jump in. If you DO find yourself needing a tank after you jump in then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong. So no, that fit isn't unhelpful. Quite the opposite. It plays to the ship's role quite well. Originally by: ShahFluffers If you do take it into combat, it's usually after bridging over a platoon of other cloaky ships. Moreover, it has little need for a tank as the target should be dead or dying before you jump in. If you DO find yourself needing a tank after you jump in then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong. Originally by: ShahFluffers ... it has little need for a tank as the target should be dead or dying before you jump in. Originally by: ShahFluffers ... dead so the role of the ship is to deal with dead ships if i understood you right?
MattFighT	Posted - 2010.05.10 12:53:00 - [6] Well, I went along the same line as Nerogk Shorn, you can have different use for the ship, like just use it for jumping stuff in, however, you can really make it a strong damage dealer in a black ops gang, you just need to find the good target ( in a safe, agressed on a station, whatever... ) and you jump in a few black ops and gank as fast as you can. For this purpose the ship is great. Here is a suggestion on a fit : Highs : 5 x 650 Dual Repeating Artilleries / Improved cloaking device II / Large Armor Rep Meds : 100mn MWD II / Heavy Cap Booster / Warp Disrupt / Web / Sensor Booster Lows : 2 1600mm Rolled Tungsten / 2 Energized Adaptative / DCU / Gyro Rigs : 3 Trimarks Drones : 5 Heavies / 5 Med ECM This fit has great damage, good buffer, can remote other black ops, or the cyno if needed ( Large Remote can be swaped for a neut, if going against an active tanking target ) and still move quite fast. MattFighT
SFX Bladerunner Minmatar The Hurt Locker Sandbox Bullies	Posted - 2010.05.10 13:02:00 - [7] Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 10/05/2010 13:04:30 [Panther, surprise cyno buttseks] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Improved Cloaking Device II Covert Jump Portal Generator I Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I Ogre II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 My proposed fit. Can do over 900 DPS with RF EMP L and T2 ogres. Tank however is paperthin compared to the shipcost, so it really would only be worth jumping in hot on smallgang/solo enemies that you are absolutely sure of being able to take on. (and your cloaky buddies better have scramblers/webs/neuts/ecm) __________________________________________________ History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever..
Nerogk Shorn Caldari Invicta. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.05.11 02:10:00 - [8] Originally by: ShahFluffers Originally by: Nerogk Shorn It's a hard ship to fit in anyway respectable imo. That's because it's not a direct combat ship... it's a combat SUPPORT ship. If you do take it into combat, it's usually after bridging over a platoon of other cloaky ships. Moreover, it has little need for a tank as the target should be dead or dying before you jump in. If you DO find yourself needing a tank after you jump in then something has gone horribly, horribly wrong. So no, that fit isn't unhelpful. Quite the opposite. It plays to the ship's role quite well. I suppose I should mention that though the first fit given has a role, it seemed pretty obvious that it wasn't the type of fit the OP was looking for. If it really should be a combat SUPPORT ship, then maybe they should get rid of it's dual damage bonus and put something that might actually support friendlies. What I really meant was that the ship's bonuses really don't work with any fitting it can field really. The shield fit could work, but that's a risky fit that not many would be willing to field. There are a lot of issues with Black Ops now, imo. The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.05.11 08:26:00 - [9] considering the ship's HP, damage capabilities, and whatnot, I would fit it to deal with smaller stuff, since even a BC will be a challenge for any BO, nevermind a battleship (unless you're in a ECM gank torp widow). that considered, favour hi-tracking weapons and keep a good stock of light and med drones, together with some mobility instead plated buffer tanks (probably resist tanks instead?) this is more for the 2 direct-damage BO's (panther and redeemer), that can actually do that. as for the sin, I would use it as a deep-space repair station/makeshift ewar platform (couldn't find any other way to fit it, even considering how flexible the slot layout is), and the widow as a secondary dps/ewar battery. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Kendon Riddick	Posted - 2010.05.11 13:36:00 - [10] i think anything made for a mountian lion, snow leopard or even a labrador dog - would fit a Panther.
Seriously Bored Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.11 15:23:00 - [11] Originally by: SFX Bladerunner [Panther, surprise cyno buttseks] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800 Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Barrage L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Improved Cloaking Device II Covert Jump Portal Generator I Large Core Defence Field Extender I Large Core Defence Field Extender I Ogre II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5 Though I'm not sure how practical it is, this is kind of cool. Never occurred to me to treat it like a nano-Pest, even though it resembles it in bonus and slot layout. Speedy, ganky, fragile trash can...would be interesting if it weren't so damn expensive for what it does.
Hyey	Posted - 2010.05.11 15:31:00 - [12] Originally by: FOTO1551 can anyone give advice on this ship? There is not a lot of info out there on the Panther. I am looking for great tank and fit for the Panther. Any help?? Unless you're flying a widow you are looking for the impossible. The Widow is the only BO that can do anything besides cov cyno things in. Widow can actually kill things if you so desire. ~~ Hyey
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2010.05.11 18:56:00 - [13] Originally by: FOTO1551 can anyone give advice on this ship? There is not a lot of info out there on the Panther. I am looking for great tank and fit for the Panther. Any help?? [Panther, Barely Feasible] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Plating True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Plating True Sansha Large Armor Repairer Damage Control II Conjunctive Ladar ECCM Scanning Array I Heavy Capacitor Booster II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets True Sansha Stasis Webifier True Sansha Warp Disruptor Dual 425mm AutoCannon II Dual 425mm AutoCannon II Dual 425mm AutoCannon II Dual 425mm AutoCannon II Dual 425mm AutoCannon II Improved 'Guise' Cloaking Device II True Sansha Heavy Energy Neutralizer Covert Jump Portal Generator I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Nanobot Accelerator I Ogre II x 5 Vespa EC-300 x 5 -- Nah, that's just my Asperger's kickin' in.
Von Kretschmer No Trademark	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:26:00 - [14] Edited by: Von Kretschmer on 11/05/2010 19:26:29 Originally by: Hyey Unless you're flying a widow you are looking for the impossible. The Widow is the only BO that can do anything besides cov cyno things in. Widow can actually kill things if you so desire. Redeemer >>>> Widow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panther >>>>>>>>> Sin

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