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The Huffarunier
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:37:00 -
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I went into a K162 wormhole, went about 5km from the wormhole and started probing. Not having much luck I finally found something i could lock onto and started narrowing down the signal...
Then all of a sudden, a Drake comes into range, starts warp scrambling me and opens fire. I started up my hardeners and headed for wormhole. I left my probes behind. In all the "excitement" (i.e running), I didn't catch the persons name, only drake warp scrambling.
I have two questions.
Is it possible that they just came in the hole and opened fire randomly or did I pick up their ship on the scanner and that triggered aggression? I know in 0.0 anything goes so I'm not angry they attacked.
Is there anyway to get the name of who attacked me somehow. The journal doesn't say and I'm not in that local anymore.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 14/05/2010 01:05:31
Wormhole protocol:
1. On entry, remain cloaked and check : Overview and then D-scanner. 2. Open your "people and places" panel and navigate to your bookmarks. Bookmark the WH location too. 3. Choose the celestial body that is as closest to present alignment as possible. 4. If equipped with your own cloaking device, perform Align-Cloak-Warp steps in case someone saw the WH "activate" and is getting ready to attack. 5. Warp to celestial for distance 50/70/100 from object. 6. While enroute, bookmark a location - this will be your safe spot. 7. On reaching the first location, turn your viewpoint completely around, as if looking back at from where you just came in, and double-click on a point in that direction as close to the orientation of your ship. You are aligning to your safe spot. If you have a cloak, cloak now. 8. Wait a moment to make sure you have not been followed. If so, make sure they are out of range (some ships can scram you at amazing distances so be mindful of that). 9. If cloaked, decloak and warp, or just warp, to safe spot. 10. Once at SS, hit D-scan, cloak up if possible, and from SS, pick another warpable-to celestial - not the farthest or the nearest - and repeat process for a second SS.
Be advised that bubbles could be in use. The chances that someone is going to put suck/push bubbles on every celestial is low, but possible. If the warpable-to celestial is a planet with moons, pick a moon instead.
Further tips:
- Worm holes found in large hubs are likely to be full of the ganking crowd. If you want to explore, find a backwater system to start from. - Just because a high sec WH got you there, it does not mean there are no low/0.0 WHs also in the system. I have seen WH systems with entries between high sec and 0.0 at the same time. - Just because a WH appears empty, it's likely that the POS and its "ball of death" is simply out of D-scanning range. - If you see a POS, make sure it's offline before approaching it. It's feast or famine. I have seen explorers find offline POSs and score big, and others lose their ship in seconds when the POS was fully online and operational.
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The Huffarunier
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Posted - 2010.05.14 01:13:00 -
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This was the second wormhole I ever entered, I brought in a Myrm with a prober and thought I'd play around in a highsec wormhole just to test the waters.
before I went in I knew the K162 wormholes where exits from other wormholes located someplace else, so I knew I wasn't entering kindergarten wormhole school.
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Pankas Carter
Photon Technologies Obsidian Order.
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Posted - 2010.05.14 01:40:00 -
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Beware warping to moons, POS may be anchored there.
Go into your game profile directory. (the one buried under AppData) and look in the logs. While your combat log in-game might not show who it was any more, the actual logfile on the disk might.
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The Huffarunier
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Posted - 2010.05.14 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: The Huffarunier on 14/05/2010 01:52:52 Edited by: The Huffarunier on 14/05/2010 01:51:25
Originally by: Pankas Carter Beware warping to moons, POS may be anchored there.
Go into your game profile directory. (the one buried under AppData) and look in the logs. While your combat log in-game might not show who it was any more, the actual logfile on the disk might.
You are awesome, it was right there (after some digging):
[ 2010.05.14 00:28:40 ] (notify) LYS1STRATA [-ONYX](Drake) has started trying to warp scramble you! [ 2010.05.14 00:28:46 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Thunderbolt Heavy Missile belonging to LYS1STRATA hits you, doing 1255.8 damage. [ 2010.05.14 00:28:57 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Thunderbolt Heavy Missile belonging to LYS1STRATA hits you, doing 1098.8 damage.
they are less awesome.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.05.14 06:08:00 -
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Holy cow, that damage! Were you standing still? That must have been a gank Drake.
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Millie Clode
Amarr Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.05.14 08:31:00 -
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Elementary recon. Bring in a covert ops ship to scout the place out before you move any heavier assets in.
Always be cloaked except for the few seconds where you are launching probes.
Never be sat near the wormhole, that's just asking for trouble.
Bookmark everything. ---------- Who, me? |
The Huffarunier
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Posted - 2010.05.14 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer Holy cow, that damage! Were you standing still? That must have been a gank Drake.
As I said I was standing still 5km from the wormhole, probing the system to see what was in there. I bookmarked everything including the wormhole in.
When I noticed a popup come on the screen, I didn't even think about it. Half my shield where gone before i hit the hardeners and entered the wormhole to exit.
I warped immediately out of the area.
I thought the damage seemed really high, thought about fighting it for a few seconds, but ultimitly fear and running won out.
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Pastor Pulpit
Wreckage Reclamation Enforcement Consortium Gentlemen's Interstellar Nightclub
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Posted - 2010.05.15 18:53:00 -
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There are resources available to tell you everything about the environment of the wspace you are entering. Check the wh database for wspace characteristics. Wspace has inherent anomalies that change the characterisitcs of your ship, ie., lower resist for shield or armor, lower output for overloading, and shortened targeting range to name a few. That drake may have been getting bonused missile damage from the wh anomaly, or your own ships resists may have been lowered. Intel is everything.
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Niveon
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Posted - 2010.05.16 10:31:00 -
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What Wolfhammer said, except you can right click the WH and BM it from there, rather than having to open P&P.
Scout in a cov ops first, the warping cloaked and bonus is a huge benefit, but you are still liable to be bubbled, bombed, decloaked on the hole or if you stay at the celestial you warped to (aggressive people will warp at 100 and burn to 0 to decloak anyone on the line asap, so move). All this still doesn't mean you myrm doesn't have a probe launcher fitted, even if offlined. |
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Ka choop
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Posted - 2010.05.16 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ka choop on 16/05/2010 20:24:25 Each wormhole has an entrance and an exit. (don't know how to call it better)
There are different identifiers for entrance wormholes, like B520 which leads into a hi-sec system or N432 which leads into a class 5 wormhole. There are nice lists of identifiers and where they lead to.
K162 is the special one. Like I said there's an entrance and an exit, and the exit is always a K162 wormhole. Check it out. Every time you scan a wormhole one of the sides will be a K162
What does it mean if you encounter a K162. It means someone from the other side has scanned the wormhole. So he might be watching it.
And that's what probably happened to you. The guy on the other side had scanned it and was watching local and thought: hey, someone must have slipped into the wormhole I scanned down earlier.
Also, if the wormhole is a bridge between hi-sec and 0.0, expect a lot of traffic because it's an ideal opportunity for the 0.0 to get to hi-sec without making long and dangerous trips. So expect it to be guarded.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.05.20 06:17:00 -
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Something strange is going on. I am finding Class 3s from high sec NOT occupied with carebear death stars.
But be final exams month.
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MIDI ION
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Posted - 2010.05.20 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ka choop Edited by: Ka choop on 16/05/2010 20:24:25
And that's what probably happened to you. The guy on the other side had scanned it and was watching local and thought: hey, someone must have slipped into the wormhole I scanned down earlier.
watching local does nothing in Wspace.... you do not show up in local unless you type something and send it out.....however he probably was camping the WH and heard the wormhole noise a ship makes when passing thru and immediately knew you were there... at that point it was all just a matter of either de-cloaking and going guns hot... or the spotter ship was cloaked and stayed that way and he warped in his buddy the drake to light you up.
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.05.20 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: MIDI ION
Originally by: Ka choop Edited by: Ka choop on 16/05/2010 20:24:25
And that's what probably happened to you. The guy on the other side had scanned it and was watching local and thought: hey, someone must have slipped into the wormhole I scanned down earlier.
watching local does nothing in Wspace.... you do not show up in local unless you type something and send it out.....however he probably was camping the WH and heard the wormhole noise a ship makes when passing thru and immediately knew you were there... at that point it was all just a matter of either de-cloaking and going guns hot... or the spotter ship was cloaked and stayed that way and he warped in his buddy the drake to light you up.
I think it is far simplier. The OP did not seem to suggest he used his directional scanner. Chances are the Drake pilot had the WH bookmarked already as they were either a well informed resident, or had come in before you the same way.
Once the drake saw you on their directional scanner (you have to keep scanning constantly in wormholes, we all know that), they simply warped to the wormhole either because they want to defend their home or again, the drake came in that way and knew it was their way out. If the latter, the drake probably saw the Mym was sitting there and opted to attack instead of just run.
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Omir Kajil
Gallente The POD Collective
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Posted - 2010.05.21 09:01:00 -
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I've been dabbling in wormholes myself for awhile now, and am really enjoying it tbh. What's odd if you think about it is that encounters with other players tends to be more even (no mobs or 20+ gate camp fleets) and yet it is more treacherous.
All these guys are right and I'd say I've learned a bit myself just reading this thread. But your d-spammer will be your best friend and your best defence regardless of what you are doing in wh space. And of course if you see combat probes, expect that you WILL be jumped by multiple ships one of them being a heavy interdictor. (I know from experience)
Never EVER be static doing nothing in wh though I guess that goes without saying.
Spam down and bookmark EVERY SITE in that wormhole, you will be more informed and more prepared if you need to GTFO.
On a side note, I always name my k-space wormhole exit "GTFO" But I digress. This one time at fat camp, i was flying a dominix, and then I was so hungry that i ate 3 planets and collapsed into a black hole, which ate my sig. |
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