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Ceterum censeo BoB delendam esse.

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Ceterum censeo BoB delendam esse.

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Originally by: Xavier Fate

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Edited by: Xavier Fate on 27/05/2010 13:55:52

Originally by: Geldar Wroontik

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To all of the Nation sympathisers, and to Kuvakei himself:

I look forward to watching you burn.

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Here in lies the crux of the Empire's failure. You see only war and retribution in all that there is around you. You do not seek a path forward. You do not seek progress. You seek to destroy and burn. If your enmity was not focused on Sansha, then it's brunt would be focused on some other target.

It is not Nation that is the evil here. This war is not some path of righteousness for the Empires, overcoming a greater darkness. The Empires alliance is a montage of warmongers who thrive on war, need war and the destruction it brings shaking their swords and spouting their empty words at whatever the enemy of the hour happens to be. Even in the course of condemning us, you quarrel amongst each other. Your alliance is crippled by your in-fighting. You lack unity. You do not need Nation to destroy you, your self-destruction is inevitable.

So, please, Geldor - shake your swords. Spout your idioms of peace of freedom. It matters not.

It is your 11th hour. The Nation has awoken.

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Originally by: Geldar Wroontik

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I have seen things in my life that many tucked away deep in the Empires haven't seen in their nightmares. I've seen what happens when you Sansha monsters "liberate" a colony. I've seen hordes of mindless zombies sent forward to attack, maim, capture and kill. God damn you, I've seen CHILDREN forced into your armies of slaves!

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Originally by: Xavier Fate

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Originally by: Geldar Wroontik

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I have seen things in my life that many tucked away deep in the Empires haven't seen in their nightmares. I've seen what happens when you Sansha monsters "liberate" a colony. I've seen hordes of mindless zombies sent forward to attack, maim, capture and kill. God damn you, I've seen CHILDREN forced into your armies of slaves!

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Really? Or is all of this some second-hand twice removed, exagerrated report. I can tell you what I know. Under the guise of spreading freedom, your like-minded capsuleers bombard space stations teeming with innocents. You slaughter the Amarr who hold slaves, with little regard for the hundreds and thousands of innocent bystanders who also feel the brunt of your strikes. You attack Caldari outposts, intent on eliminating a military threat, but do so without regard for the civilian casualty.

Do not come to me believing yourself to be on a higher ground. The bloodstains of millions trails in your foot steps. You speak of the 'nightmares' of Sansha rule. Open your eyes, take a jaunt through the Placid region. Come to terms with the very real nightmares of the on-going war between the Federation and its enemies.

I live in the Placid region at the moment. I see the refugees and the dead that return.

Unity is the answer. Nation is the way.

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Originally by: Ian Novarider

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>>> Sansha and his people believed themselves safe, anticipating that the legions of True Slaves in Stain would remain an impenetrable shield that none could pass. But what they hadn't counted on was that the empires would set aside their differences and establish the first Alliance of Empires to bring his nation down. >>>

History is about to repeat itself. Kuvakei will reunite the Empires and capsuleers through His death. Maybe that was or is His plan from the start.

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Originally by: ECHAeries

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Originally by: Ian Novarider

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>>> Sansha and his people believed themselves safe, anticipating that the legions of True Slaves in Stain would remain an impenetrable shield that none could pass. But what they hadn't counted on was that the empires would set aside their differences and establish the first Alliance of Empires to bring his nation down. >>>

History is about to repeat itself. Kuvakei will reunite the Empires and capsuleers through His death. Maybe that was or is His plan from the start.

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History may repeat itself... partially.
All those who oppose will be dealt with.
If the four empires again choose to make a joint effort they will fall, together.
Reason is simple: you can call yourself allies, but you cannot unite.

Your bickering endures, your cooperation let's down.
For as long as you choose to ignore Nation's technology your flaws will cut you down at the most vital moments to your preservation.

Nation will prevail.

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Originally by: Kenrailae

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Originally by: Xavier Fate

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It was Nation that has caused the same collateral damage that you toss at the Empires. How do you absolve yourself of that?

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For centuries the Empires have opted not put aside their differences. For centuries they have opted for bloodshed over unity. Yes, there will be deaths brought about by this transition. And, unlike the countless billions who have died fighting for the Empires over the years - these deaths will mean something. These deaths will be the brief and necessary evil before the cluster may find the first true enlightenment of mankind.

Through Nation we find Unity
Through Unity we find Peace
Through Peace we are Enlightened

One Nation
One Voice

Originally by: Xavier Fate

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Originally by: Kenrailae

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Originally by: Xavier Fate

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It was Nation that has caused the same collateral damage that you toss at the Empires. How do you absolve yourself of that?

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For centuries the Empires have opted not put aside their differences. For centuries they have opted for bloodshed over unity. Yes, there will be deaths brought about by this transition. And, unlike the countless billions who have died fighting for the Empires over the years - these deaths will mean something. These deaths will be the brief and necessary evil before the cluster may find the first true enlightenment of mankind.

Through Nation we find Unity
Through Unity we find Peace
Through Peace we are Enlightened

One Nation
One Voice

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But that's the same line every empire in history has used, the 'we are the united, we bring peace, we are the enlightened' rabble.

The 'Your causing destruction is wrong, but our destruction will mean something.'

The Very empires you claim to be superior to all use some variant or another of that.

Every Death is a waste. But Every Death has meaning.

If you can do no better than that, then I'll just have to hope Kuvekai will respond to my request for his words.

Originally by: Kenrailae

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If you can do no better than that, then I'll just have to hope Kuvekai will respond to my request for his words.

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Originally by: Xavier Fate

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Originally by: Kenrailae

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If you can do no better than that, then I'll just have to hope Kuvekai will respond to my request for his words.

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"I condemn you! Now, can we do an interview?"

I award you no points. Logic failure. That will be one demerit. Go sit in time out.

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Originally by: Kenrailae

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I recommend you think bigger. Such a small focus belittles your potential. You are, after all, not Drake arson or Echaeries. I'd expect that response from them. One will also do well to know that not all actions occur here.

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Originally by: ECHAeries

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Nation is unity.
Nation is infinite.

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Ceterum censeo BoB delendam esse.

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Originally by: Kenrailae

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One will note that time has passed, and many events besides. And if Kuvekai is half the 'leader' you all tout him to be, then he's smart enough to figure out my reasons for opposing him.

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Originally by: Xavier Fate

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Edited by: Xavier Fate on 30/05/2010 00:12:44

Originally by: Kenrailae

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One will note that time has passed, and many events besides. And if Kuvekai is half the 'leader' you all tout him to be, then he's smart enough to figure out my reasons for opposing him.

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I figured out your reasons for opposition just a few seconds after reading one your posts for the first time on the matter.

You have given full credo into the deranged exaggerations of the Empires propaganda machine (like so many others). No, the truth of the matter is that , if you actually want an interview with an extremely busy leader then he would need an actual reason to grant it.

And, quite frankly, I cannot conceive of anything worthwhile that you would have to offer.

Nation is the instrument of Unity
Unity is the forerunner of Peace

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"Ceterum censeo Kuvakei esse delendam"

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Originally by: Xavier Fate

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Kenrailae:
I ask for nothing, but the opportunity to serve a man who's vision bears the potential of true reform.

Your questions regardless of their format, require time to answer. I did not assume any face to face meeting. But if the Master wasted his time bantering to the questions of every fool on the GalNet the movement would stop in its tracks before it ever began.

That is the difference.

I believe that this ill-fated series of retorts has finally begun to consume more of time then it could possibly be worth. In fact, that time came quite awhile ago.

Good luck with your interview request.

Novarider:

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"Ceterum censeo Kuvakei esse delendam"

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You should work on your historic linguistics more. Simply repeating phrases you may have read in some history book does not suit your intelligence, and it insults everyone else who bears the burden of reading it.

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Ceterum censeo BoB delendam esse.

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Originally by: Kleoptoleme

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The gentle will outlast the strong.

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Originally by: Kithrus

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Also slavery to Amarr though not always pleasant if enough time goes by the slave is granted freedom and equal treatment as they have accepted the way of God.
Unlike the True Power who plant a chip in your head and removes free will forever.

I don't expect everyone to understand the difference but hopefully now you see there is one.

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Originally by: ECHAeries

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Originally by: Kleoptoleme

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The gentle will outlast the strong.

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Unfortunately for you your nature is the opposite of gentle and lacks any self-control required to make such strategy work.

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Originally by: ECHAeries

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Originally by: Kleoptoleme

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The gentle will outlast the strong.

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Unfortunately for you your nature is the opposite of gentle and lacks any self-control required to make such strategy work.

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