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Mjalnar Gessenier
Strix Defence and Intelligence Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.13 01:53:00 -
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12 July YC 114
Alentene Solar System
Corporate Memorandum: Security and Peacekeeping Operations - Vlillirier Solar System (For Public Release)
This is notification and statement of intent on the conduct of future peacekeeping operations in Vlillirier Solar System to be carried out by Corporate Security Units of Strix Defence and Intelligence. Acting in support of the citizens and government of Vlillirier, Strix Defence and Intelligence shall seek to address specific security concerns in the Vlillirier Solar System through the deployment of private security assets tasked with carrying out third-party defence operations in the interests of the Vlillirier local assemblies and the Federation.
Due to the strategic importance of the Vlillirier System in the ongoing War against the Caldari State under Executor Tibus Heth, Strix Defence and Intelligence will in addition be using the Vlillirier System as a Rapid Reaction Base for interdiction operations against Provist force elements of the State Protectorate entering Placid via Aldranette and Oicx. These operations form part of current contractual obligations to the Federal Defence Union.
Security and Peacekeeping Operations in the Vlillirier System is considered a long-term committment with a 2+ year timeframe.
Current objectives in the Vlillirier System are as follows:
I. Anti-Wiyrkomi Operations
Wiyrkomi Corporation is considered a destabilizing security presence in the Vlillirier System and a hostile entity for continued political and economic support of the Caldari Providence Directorate in addition to complicity in the Provist occupation of Placid between YC 111 - YC 113.
Strix Defence and Intelligence Private Defence and Security assets shall seek the active suppression and denial of Wiyrkomi Corporation activities in the Vlillirier Solar System under the following provisos:
a) Any and all Wiyrkomi Corporation personnel found outside designated enclaves in the Vlillirier Solar System shall be considered a legitimate threat and open to engagement under current pre-emptive defensive action policies.
b) Kill-Capture operations are authorized against individual targets of Wiyrkomi Corporation considered a considerable threat to the peace and security of the people of the Vlillirier System.
c) Any and all Wiyrkomi Corporation assets found outside designated enclaves in the Vlillirier System will be open to siezure, forfeiture or destruction without compensation made.
II. Anti-Terrorism Operations
In conjunction with the Federal Intelligence Office, Corporate Security Units of Strix Defence and Intelligence shall seek to render assistance in on-going anti-terrorist operations in the Vlillirier system against known insurgent cells and Wiyrkomi-funded paramilitary collaborators.
These paramilitary insurgent cells pose a clear threat to the security of the Vlillirier System and direct action shall be taken against them with the following provisos:
a) The Vlillirier System is considered an active warzone and any Federal citizen deemed to be working for an insurgent cell or provides aid and support to Wiyrkomi Corporation shall be considered an enemy combatant and a legitimate threat open to engagement under current pre-emptive defensive action policies.
b) Strix Defence and Intelligence reserves the right to conduct the detention of suspected enemy combatants in the Vlillirier System prior to their rendition to appropriate Federal Authorities.
For Strix Defence and Intelligence:
Mjalnar Gessenier Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
This is a working document and subject to change.
//About Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate
Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate [STRIX] is the SCC registered Private Military Corporate Syndicate of Roden Shipyards corporate subsidiary Strix Defence and Intelligence Corporation [STXDI].
Primarily engaged in providing full spectrum third-party force and security options, military liaison and training, data analysis, as well as information network penetration-counter-penetration (PCP) services.
Strix Defence and Intelligence conducts the majority of its business with Federal and Republic government agencies as well as Roden Shipyards.
Strix Defence and Intelligence is currently led by Mjalnar Gessenier, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:04:00 -
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Mjalnar Gessenier wrote:I. Anti-Wiyrkomi Operations Wiyrkomi Corporation is considered a destabilizing security presence in the Vlillirier System and a hostile entity for continued political and economic support of the Caldari Providence Directorate in addition to complicity in the Provist occupation of Placid between YC 111 - YC 113. Strix Defence and Intelligence Private Defence and Security assets shall seek the active suppression and denial of Wiyrkomi Corporation activities in the Vlillirier Solar System under the following provisos: a) Any and all Wiyrkomi Corporation personnel found outside designated enclaves in the Vlillirier Solar System shall be considered a legitimate threat and open to engagement under current pre-emptive defensive action policies. b) Kill-Capture operations are authorized against individual targets of Wiyrkomi Corporation considered a considerable threat to the peace and security of the people of the Vlillirier System. c) Any and all Wiyrkomi Corporation assets found outside designated enclaves in the Vlillirier System will be open to siezure, forfeiture or destruction without compensation made.
Considering Wiyrkomi operates legally within Federation borders, then your hostile actions against Wiyrkomi interests and assets is, in and of itself, terrorism.
It seems that the Honor Guard's intentions to stay out of Federation space will have to be set aside as we defend Wiyrkomi's assets from the onslaught of terrorists. The Wiyrkomi Honor Guard will act in defense of Wiyrkomi assets and interests in Federation space and will engage any and all hostile actions that we are aware of.
See you in space, pirate. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
Ilsenae Alexandros
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:09:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:It seems that the Honor Guard's intentions to stay out of Federation space will have to be set aside as we defend Wiyrkomi's assets from the onslaught of terrorists.
Mjalnar Gessenier wrote:II. Anti-Terrorism Operations
Really a shame, because we would have helped you with this if not for the silliness. Ilsenae Alexandros Khross, Chaika Eskeitan of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Mjalnar Gessenier
Strix Defence and Intelligence Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:11:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote: Considering Wiyrkomi operates legally within Federation borders, then your hostile actions against Wiyrkomi interests and assets is, in and of itself, terrorism.
M. Khross, Wiyrkomi has long sought to hide behind the skirts of CONCORD regulations as they actively fund terrorists and insurgents in the Vlillirier System. This is not piracy. This is corporate warfare against what is considered a hostile entity. |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:17:00 -
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Mjalnar Gessenier wrote: M. Khross, Wiyrkomi has long sought to hide behind the skirts of CONCORD regulations as they actively fund terrorists and insurgents in the Vlillirier System. This is not piracy. This is corporate warfare against what is considered a hostile entity.
Good luck in proving these claims, Gessenier, just as you've failed to prove any claim I've ever challenged you on. Your justification is as lacking as your argument and corporate warfare doesn't involve physical aggression. Furthermore, Wiyrkomi isn't considered hostile by the Federation, this is a judgment you have made for yourselves.
You are acting without the proper authority from the sovereign power in the territory you are claiming to defend and acting against a non-hostile entity simply because you perceive it as hostile, that is piracy.
See you in space, pirate.
~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:27:00 -
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I'd just point out that Gessanier's claim to have the support of the Vlillirier local government can be seen as just as flagrant as suggesting your Honor Guard belongs under the Wiyrkomi Corporation.
This is war. You might not like it, I certainly don't like it, but to think the Wiyrkomi Corporation are so innocent and honourable in their conduct is fallacy. As fallacious as assuming STRIX's "anti-terrorism operations" will be just as honourable. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
708
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:40:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:I'd just point out that Gessanier's claim to have the support of the Vlillirier local government can be seen as just as flagrant as suggesting your Honor Guard belongs under the Wiyrkomi Corporation.
So, both claims can be seen as obvious, then?
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Mjalnar Gessenier
Strix Defence and Intelligence Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:57:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:corporate warfare doesn't involve physical aggression. Furthermore, Wiyrkomi isn't considered hostile by the Federation, this is a judgment you have made for yourselves.
Really? I suppose all those CONCORD sanctioned corporate war declarations are carried out solely with posturing, bravura and attempts to claim the moral high-ground then, M. Khross?
Wiyrkomi Corporation is considered a hostile entity for it's tacit and continued support of the Caldari Providence Directorate, material funding to Provists that are used in acts of violence against the Federation, material and political support to the Provists of the State Protectorate and complicity in the occupation of Placid. In addition, whilst Strix Defence and Intelligence is Federally registered it also operates as an SCC registered corporate syndicate, so no, at times I do not require the sanction of Federal Authorities in order to conduct operations in the interests of the Federation.
By all means, please M. Khross, continue to believe that fighting a war with pointed words will have a meaningful effect. Myself? I prefer to fight wars with pointed bullets and provide my mockery, scorn and derision to those that believe otherwise.
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Kerri Knight
Ishukone Prosperity Exchange
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Posted - 2012.07.13 04:41:00 -
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An escalation of hostilities involving the violent use of force against civilian targets and seizure of private (non-military) property within the borders of the Federation is highly disturbing. The presentation of your justifications is so broadly defined that it could arguably apply to just about any entity aligned with one of the major powers.
I have some specific issues I wish to address, here:
Quote:Any and all Wiyrkomi Corporation personnel found outside designated enclaves in the Vlillirier Solar System shall be considered a legitimate threat and open to engagement under current pre-emptive defensive action policies. Where are these "designated enclaves" and how was the determination of their location(s) arrived at? You are seeking the limit the freedom of movement and travel of Federal citizens, under what legal authority do you justify infringing upon such a basic human right?
Quote:Kill-Capture operations are authorized against individual targets of Wiyrkomi Corporation considered a considerable threat to the peace and security of the people of the Vlillirier System. What activities would one engage in to result in being a "considerable threat?"
Who make be making this determination and will any disclosure or oversight exist for the deliberations?
There are properly empowered authorities within the Federation who are answerable to the public when they either flagrantly violate civil rights or fail to act in defense of public safety. What gives you the right to implant yourself into this position and how can the public be assured you will be held accountable for your decisions?
Quote:Any and all Wiyrkomi Corporation assets found outside designated enclaves in the Vlillirier System will be open to siezure, forfeiture or destruction without compensation made. Again, there needs to be clarification on the precise meaning of "designated enclaves." If a complaint is made and the Federal Courts find you have stolen and destroyed private property ordering remuneration such as returning the goods or paying monetary damages, will you comply?
Quote:The Vlillirier System is considered an active warzone and any Federal citizen deemed to be working for an insurgent cell or provides aid and support to Wiyrkomi Corporation shall be considered an enemy combatant and a legitimate threat open to engagement under current pre-emptive defensive action policies. Wiyrkomi is a major employer in this system, are you saying all Federal citizens who have a job at Wiyrkomi can be murdered on the spot?
What plan do you or the Federal Administration have to address the massive spike in unemployment that would result if all of these people resigned first thing tomorrow?
Quote:Strix Defence and Intelligence reserves the right to conduct the detention of suspected enemy combatants in the Vlillirier System prior to their rendition to appropriate Federal Authorities. Are you claiming to have been formally deputized in some manner such that you can formally designate unarmed, non-hostile citizens as "enemy combatants" or does this constitute some sort of vigilantism?
"Wiyrkomi Corporation is considered a destabilizing security presence in the Vlillirier System and a hostile entity for continued political and economic support of the Caldari Providence Directorate
Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate [STRIX] is the SCC registered Private Military Corporate Syndicate of Roden Shipyards corporate subsidiary Strix Defence and Intelligence Corporation [STXDI]."
Roden is a major military arms contractor who's namesake is the current President of the Federation, wouldn't the argument of "political and economic support" be just as equally true going the other way? Kerri Knight Communications Director Ishukone Prosperity Exchange "Cooperation is the greater path than conflict" |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.07.13 06:08:00 -
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I see another Intaki like incident on the horizon. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. |
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Calliste Gessenier
Pyre Black Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.13 06:33:00 -
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As mon pere appears currently occupied in a board meeting, please allow me to address your questions Mlle. Knight.
"Where are these "designated enclaves" and how was the determination of their location(s) arrived at? You are seeking the limit the freedom of movement and travel of Federal citizens, under what legal authority do you justify infringing upon such a basic human right?"
Designated enclaves refers to areas, specifically orbital stations, that are currently protected under CONCORD Assembly regulations. Strix Defence and Intelligence considers any Wiyrkomi Corporate citizens or personnel operating outside of those designated zones persona non-grata. As such no infringement of legal rights occurs in the imepeding of their movements.
"What activities would one engage in to result in being a 'considerable threat?'"
Strix Defence and Intelligence is not responsible for those determinations, rather, the Federal Intelligence Office in general and the Special Department for Internal Investigations and Federal Security specifically.
"Who make be making this determination and will any disclosure or oversight exist for the deliberations?"
Corporate Disclosure Statements may be made available to the public regarding current operations in the Vlillirier System. Documentation regarding operational oversight may be made via a Freedom of Information request of the SDII or FIO when such becomes available - I believe YC 214 at the earliest.
"There are properly empowered authorities within the Federation who are answerable to the public when they either flagrantly violate civil rights or fail to act in defense of public safety. What gives you the right to implant yourself into this position and how can the public be assured you will be held accountable for your decisions?"
Operational oversight is conducted by the Special Department for Internal Investigations and Federal Security which is a properly empowered authority within the Federation answerable to the public when they either flagrantly violate civil rights or fail to act in defense of public safety. As such, the public can be assured that Corporate Security Units of Strix Defence and Intelligence shall be held accountable for decisions made in Vlillirier Peacekeeping Operations.
In addition, Strix Defence and Intelligence is a private corporation accountable only to its shareholders and regulatory authorities. Not the public.
"If a complaint is made and the Federal Courts find you have stolen and destroyed private property ordering remuneration such as returning the goods or paying monetary damages, will you comply?"
Hypothetically, yes.
"Wiyrkomi is a major employer in this system, are you saying all Federal citizens who have a job at Wiyrkomi can be murdered on the spot?"
Actions to be taken against Federal citizens are dependent upon determinations made by the SDII.
"What plan do you or the Federal Administration have to address the massive spike in unemployment that would result if all of these people resigned first thing tomorrow?"
Strix Defence and Intelligence may consider the expansion of space-borne manufacturing and planetary infrastructure development in the Vlillirier System in order to provide adequate employment and support to the people of Vlillirier.
"Are you claiming to have been formally deputized in some manner such that you can formally designate unarmed, non-hostile citizens as "enemy combatants" or does this constitute some sort of vigilantism?"
Question already answered as per SDII oversight of operations.
"Roden is a major military arms contractor who's namesake is the current President of the Federation, wouldn't the argument of "political and economic support" be just as equally true going the other way?"
Vlillirier operations are to be conducted by subsidiary Corporate Security Units of Strix Defence and Intelligence not subsidiaries of Roden Shipyards. The current corporate syndicate structure was chosen to ensure effective top-down management by the board of Strix Defence and Intelligence and is not indicative of Roden Shipyards ownership of all subsidiaries within the syndicate. |
Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
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Posted - 2012.07.13 06:42:00 -
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Welcome to the Empire Wars.
Everyone actually trying to make a difference is a terrorist. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
387
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:10:00 -
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Mjalnar Gessenier wrote:Wiyrkomi Corporation is considered a hostile entity for it's tacit and continued support of the Caldari Providence Directorate, material funding to Provists that are used in acts of violence against the Federation, material and political support to the Provists of the State Protectorate and complicity in the occupation of Placid. In addition, whilst Strix Defence and Intelligence is Federally registered it also operates as an SCC registered corporate syndicate, so no, at times I do not require the sanction of Federal Authorities in order to conduct operations in the interests of the Federation.
This is a very different tune than "funding terrorists and insurgents," Gessenier. This is the tune of "supports its home nation and its activities," which would be expected of any national corporation. Wiyrkomi Corporation still operates under legal sanction from the Federation in the Placid region so your hostile actions against Wiyrkomi will be seen as an independent act of terrorism, which we will respond to in kind. Plain and simple.
Mjalnar Gessenier wrote:By all means, please M. Khross, continue to believe that fighting a war with pointed words will have a meaningful effect. Myself? I prefer to fight wars with pointed bullets and provide my mockery, scorn and derision to those that believe otherwise.
What part of "see you in space" didn't you understand, pirate?
Calliste Gessenier wrote:Designated enclaves refers to areas, specifically orbital stations, that are currently protected under CONCORD Assembly regulations. Strix Defence and Intelligence considers any Wiyrkomi Corporate citizens or personnel operating outside of those designated zones persona non-grata. As such no infringement of legal rights occurs in the imepeding of their movements.
This, along with the rest of your "explanations" essentially says, "We're not guilty the way we see it and to the shaft with whatever anyone else thinks." So Federation citizens working in a legally sanctioned corporation in a Federation Sovereign region are "not welcome?" You never learn.
Furthermore, you continue to attest to the operational oversight and responsibility of the FIO and SDII but have failed to provide any proof of sanction on their behalf toward these operations, which makes these operations entirely self-justified and perceived, which makes them acts of piracy.
Halete wrote:Welcome to the Empire Wars.
Everyone actually trying to make a difference is a terrorist.
Only those who seek to "make a difference" by engaging in hostile and oppressive activities against non-military targets. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
Hoshisuuvi
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:14:00 -
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Mjalnar Gessenier wrote:Wiyrkomi Corporation is considered a destabilizing security presence in the Vlillirier System and a hostile entity
What assets, exactly, are threatened by the corporation? Innocent colonists' or some portion of your so-called President's personal fortune?
Mjalnar Gessenier wrote:Kill-Capture operations are authorized against individual targets of Wiyrkomi Corporation considered a considerable threat to the peace and security of the people of the Vlillirier System.
For a moment I thought we had something to discuss here. Nevermind. This Gessenier-jaijii requires defeat in combat to realize his mistakes. We will provide. |
Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:33:00 -
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Halete wrote:Welcome to the Empire Wars.
Everyone actually trying to make a difference is a terrorist. Terrorism is just a poor man's war. |
Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:39:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Halete wrote:Welcome to the Empire Wars.
Everyone actually trying to make a difference is a terrorist. Terrorism is just a poor man's war.
The rich man's war is perpetuating the death of servicemen for no ends?
Yes, that sounds pretty accurate. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
388
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Posted - 2012.07.13 12:03:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:I'd just point out that Gessanier's claim to have the support of the Vlillirier local government can be seen as just as flagrant as suggesting your Honor Guard belongs under the Wiyrkomi Corporation.
You'd be mistaken, but trying to explain it to you is futile.
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:This is war. You might not like it, I certainly don't like it, but to think the Wiyrkomi Corporation are so innocent and honourable in their conduct is fallacy. As fallacious as assuming STRIX's "anti-terrorism operations" will be just as honourable.
All I asked for was proof regarding the allegations, something you have both now failed to provide. Stop mincing words and playing politics. If you want to prove Wiyrkomi is being dishonorable, then do it, otherwise be silent. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.07.13 12:34:00 -
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Really now, the massive security forces of both Federation and Caldari corporations aren't used for show.
You completely missed what I said anyway, mister Khross. STRIX doesn't care about the people or government of Vlillirier, regardless of any agreements they have with them. This is just corporate warfare between Roden Shipyards and the Wiyrkomi Corporation, with STRIX acting as proxy on behalf of Roden. This is what happens when society gets the genius idea of deciding to give corporations such power. Their "anti-terrorism operations" is just an excuse to encroach Federal influence via Roden Shipyards in a system that historically sees little central presence to begin with (lowsec for a reason).
Equally, Wiyrkomi doesn't care about the locals either; it's not exactly in a Patriot corporation's remit to act all sympathetic to a foreign population, while actually just using it as PR to make a profit. You want Quafe or FedMart for that. And sure, you want dishonor? How about the communications blackout enforced on the occupied territories by the Caldari megacorporations in YC111? The intercorporate warfare between the Big Eight? The economic exploitation of the occupied systems during that time?
You can't call out the enemy on underhanded activities while ignoring the underhanded activities of your own masters. There's very little that separates the Caldari and Federal governments right now. I'm just thankful that individual liberty means I can give the Federal government the finger and still serve my role as a Federation soldier elsewhere. |
Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.07.13 12:49:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:There's very little that separates the Caldari and Federal governments right now. I'm just thankful that individual liberty means I can give the Federal government the finger and still serve my role as a Federation soldier elsewhere.
I for one am eternally grateful that incompetence of your militia and the hands of Rocarion, Teravada, Messenger and others so long-ago destroyed the facade of "freedom, tolerance and individual rights" that you postered for and when hard reality came knocking, federation was willing to burn people at the stake with all the assorted pomp that goes with the release of a new low-budget holovid.
So goodbye to your childhood fantasies. Welcome to unfair and uncaring universe of hatred, misery and death.
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
388
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Posted - 2012.07.13 13:03:00 -
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Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: You completely missed what I said anyway, mister Khross. STRIX doesn't care about the people or government of Vlillirier, regardless of any agreements they have with them.
I will not presume to speak for what STRIX cares about regarding the local population or government, only that they are acting of their own accord without clearance from either as it stands.
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:Equally, Wiyrkomi doesn't care about the locals either; it's not exactly in a Patriot corporation's remit to act all sympathetic to a foreign population, while actually just using it as PR to make a profit. You want Quafe or FedMart for that. And sure, you want dishonor? How about the communications blackout enforced on the occupied territories by the Caldari megacorporations in YC111? The intercorporate warfare between the Big Eight? The economic exploitation of the occupied systems during that time?
Regarding your first point. Wiyrkomi Corporation has never once stated that it's concerns were the local population, the local population are Federation citizens. Wiyrkomi provides jobs, security and a number of products and services to the local population as a legally authorized business entity in the region, it has no authority to engage in any political efforts. Were the region under the jurisdiction of Wiyrkomi Corporation instead of the Federal government, the interests of Wiyrkomi regarding the local population would be shifted dramatically as the corporation would take direct concern with the local population's security, livelihood and provision.
To your second point. Since when is it dishonorable to block communications to an enemy government? Wiyrkomi (and other corporations) occupied the area but that doesn't mean that everyone in those regions was suddenly fond and in support of those corporation. A communications blockade is a tactical move to prevent insider reconnaissance and intelligence from being given to Federal militants that could have been used to strike back against the occupying corporation. There is nothing dishonorable in this activity, it's simply military strategy. Even after the communications blockade was lifted, there was no indications that anything immoral or unethical had been done to the local populace.
To your third point, intercorporate warfare is dishonorable? Since when?
To your fourth point, economic exploitation of the occupied systems. The very same economic "exploit" that Federal corporations and organizations practice to this day in those systems. When a system or region is annexed or occupied by a government, it is a mutual exchange. The government provides security, stability, legal jurisdiction, provision and other things in exchange for the resources and labor force of that system or region. Unless you're going to try and tell me that the Federation never capitalizes on the resources of the systems within its domain? The economic "exploitation" that you refer to is nothing more than legitimate business operations in occupied territory. If something truly diabolical had occurred, it would be rather unusual for the Federation to then approve the operations of those unethical business in those same regions.
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:You can't call out the enemy on underhanded activities while ignoring the underhanded activities of your own masters. .
I haven't.
Also, there is plenty that separates our governments but this has been covered in detail time and time again.
~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
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Saul Ambrye
Ishukone Prosperity Exchange
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Posted - 2012.07.13 13:32:00 -
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Ah, SDII is involved, it all makes perfect sense now. If it involves flippant use of labeling as a pretext to violate sovereign individual rights, sure enough the brave men and women of this fine organization will be somewhere in the midst of it. Where is the bleating of the "Federation is the embodiment of freedom and liberty" crowd when you really need them?
Sanctioned murder of civilians, disregard for private property rights and restricting your right to choose your employer or move about freely? Just deflect the issue by pointing out the wrongs of others. "We have to violate your rights in order to protect them!"
Just the latest in a long list of tools used to enforce the socioeconomic whims of the central systems on the rest of the Federation. That this will disproportionately impact those of Intaki ethnicity (along with State foreign nationals) is par for the course. I will not be holding my breath waiting for push-back from other regions or significant protests in Villore.
As Knight-haani indicated, we have serious concerns and will be watching the situation closely. I sincerely hope that similar sentiments do not spread to other systems or State-aligned entities who provide positive economic benefit to several Federation regions (and if they are operating unlawfully, there are appropriate civil institutions for addressing such violations). Saul Ambrye Executive Director Ishukone Prosperity Exchange "Cooperation is the greater path than conflict" |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
388
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Posted - 2012.07.13 13:57:00 -
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Ambrye,
It is the hope of Wirykomi Honor Guard that by operating in a defensive, counter operations capacity, we will avoid too much infringement upon the populace and non-militants that will unfortunately be affected by these operations. I would be either a hopeful fool or a blatant liar to suggest that our own defensive operations will not possibly inadvertently negatively affect the populace and workers in the region, but I can promise that we will do our best to limit such an impact. ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |
Bastian Valoron
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative Federal Consensus Outreach
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Posted - 2012.07.13 14:53:00 -
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What Wiyrkomi has done to the Canyon of Rust is unforgivable. I applaud STRIX for this initiative. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
350
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Posted - 2012.07.13 14:59:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:Ambrye,
It is the hope of Wirykomi Honor Guard that by operating in a defensive, counter operations capacity, we will avoid too much infringement upon the populace and non-militants that will unfortunately be affected by these operations. I would be either a hopeful fool or a blatant liar to suggest that our own defensive operations will not possibly inadvertently negatively affect the populace and workers in the region, but I can promise that we will do our best to limit such an impact.
Malcolm;
Please do keep in mind that punching someone squarely in the nose in order to take them out of the fight before they can do any damage can be considered defensive. |
Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
389
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Bastian Valoron wrote:For long, the name of the Seituoda Family has been associated with honor and trustworthy business practices. It makes me disappointed to see that now these people flying under their flag wish to tarnish this age-old reputation by shedding blood on the Wiyrkomi trade mark.
Bastian Valoron wrote:What Wiyrkomi has done to the Canyon of Rust is unforgivable. I applaud STRIX for this initiative.
I do so enjoy political double speak and shifting standpoints. ~Malcolm Khross,-áEskeitan Reijokkan (Commander of the Guard) Our Proud Heritage. You Were Born For This. |
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2012.07.13 15:02:00 -
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I suppose I must be a bit out of the loop, but last I knew a couple years back Zagamesh was pronounced dead and posthumously convicted of well over a hundred charges of treason, espionage and subterfuge on behalf of the State against the Federation and Strix was dissolved afterward, and I don't recall seeing anything about an exoneration or pardon (if I missed and someone can point me to it, that'd be appreciated), so what's changed since then that you're now working with SDII against State corporate interests? SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin and Eve Online Hold'Em Management |
Ilsenae Alexandros
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
85
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Posted - 2012.07.13 16:00:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:Bastian Valoron wrote:For long, the name of the Seituoda Family has been associated with honor and trustworthy business practices. It makes me disappointed to see that now these people flying under their flag wish to tarnish this age-old reputation by shedding blood on the Wiyrkomi trade mark. Bastian Valoron wrote:What Wiyrkomi has done to the Canyon of Rust is unforgivable. I applaud STRIX for this initiative. I do so enjoy political double speak.
Its like he's making our arguments for us.
Koronakesh wrote:I suppose I must be a bit out of the loop, but last I knew a couple years back Zagamesh was pronounced dead and posthumously convicted of well over a hundred charges of treason, espionage and subterfuge on behalf of the State against the Federation and Strix was dissolved afterward, and I don't recall seeing anything about an exoneration or pardon (if I missed and someone can point me to it, that'd be appreciated), so what's changed since then that you're now working with SDII against State corporate interests?
My birthday was a few months past but I'll forgive you this once, because its such a good present. Ilsenae Alexandros Khross, Chaika Eskeitan of the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
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Mjalnar Gessenier
Strix Defence and Intelligence Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.13 22:02:00 -
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Koronakesh wrote:I suppose I must be a bit out of the loop, but last I knew a couple years back Zagamesh was pronounced dead and posthumously convicted of well over a hundred charges of treason, espionage and subterfuge on behalf of the State against the Federation and Strix was dissolved afterward, and I don't recall seeing anything about an exoneration or pardon (if I missed and someone can point me to it, that'd be appreciated), so what's changed since then that you're now working with SDII against State corporate interests?
M. Koronakesh,
The results of SDII investigations into the incident in question I believe are still classified documents and not currently available for public dissemination.
As for a present change in working with the SDII against State Megacorporate interests - perhaps nothing has ever changed. I am bound to obey the dictates of a lawful Federal agency as I prosecute actions against the Caldari State. |
Bastian Valoron
Gallente Independent Progressive Alternative Federal Consensus Outreach
52
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Posted - 2012.07.14 00:27:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:Bastian Valoron wrote:For long, the name of the Seituoda Family has been associated with honor and trustworthy business practices. It makes me disappointed to see that now these people flying under their flag wish to tarnish this age-old reputation by shedding blood on the Wiyrkomi trade mark. Bastian Valoron wrote:What Wiyrkomi has done to the Canyon of Rust is unforgivable. I applaud STRIX for this initiative. I do so enjoy political double speak. Stating facts is not double speak. Is someone implying that Seituoda family members are not known to keep their word, or that they do not prefer to rely on a competitive product instead of blackmailing, bribing, espionage and corporate warfare like so many other Caldari megacorporations?
Has WHG not started killing Wiyrkomi's business partners and their associates in the Federation?
Is it not widely disapproved in the Federation that using a loophole in the legislation, Wiyrkomi has destroyed a marvel of nature, a garden of special rust flakes, formed all by itself, without interference by man?
No holorecording can convey the real beauty of the Canyon of Rust to the future generations. Thanks to Wiyrkomi's greed and lack of consideration, this spectacle of special rust flakes has been ruined forever. |
Jev North
Anshar Incorporated
67
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Posted - 2012.07.14 00:28:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote: Considering Wiyrkomi operates legally within Federation borders, then your hostile actions against Wiyrkomi interests and assets is, in and of itself, terrorism. [...] See you in space, pirate.
Commander Khross, with all due respect.. this association of terrorism with piracy, seemingly so natural for you, is idiocy.
By preying primarily on capsuleer vessels, even a very active pirate tends to do a lot less damage to assets and personnel than even an average militia warrior or agent contracting capsuleer. And seldom do they do it for the purpose of political gain, or instilling terror and insecurity in people - for longer than it takes to collect some well-earned protection money, in any case.
Besides that, I must protest against ranking this STRIX lot in with us. Proper capsuleer pirates, ones with a decent amount of backbone, would never need to come up with quite this much empty political speech and tortured reasoning. |
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