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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fret I have allowed TornSoul herself log into my account two separate times to investigate the isk transfer for the character and any other info that may be pertanant to thier investigation.
Change your password. Immeditely. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.15 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fret I have allowed TornSoul herself log into my account two separate times to investigate the isk transfer for the character and any other info that may be pertanant to thier investigation.
Change your password. Immeditely. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Pandora Panda on 16/12/2004 10:20:02
Originally by: Mrs Hauler Who are you -- (nobody) who is BIG -- (Well known corp with proven track record that deal in many billions)
Frankly love him or hate him Tornsoul wouldn't stoop to this crap - your trying to convince 20k of players that he would do a total u-turn for no apparent reason that protecting a member or stealing some ISK -well this is one player that you won't convince. He said at the beginning of the thread char transfer is not something he wants his corp to do - now we see why scammers like you targetting the T2 corps to try and damage thier rep -- well done you have just improved it 100 fold. To Tornsoul - fantastic work and the funniest story I've read for a long time.
This coupled with the evidence given = Fret you are a total idiot - that screenshot shoots you down in flames - You gave it a try and failed - move on nothing more to do here. PS if there is a conspiracy here then try these are you and axee in this together ? was it your intention to attack BIG rather than go for the 750 mill- who's backing you? Are you that bitter and twisted that when caught you cant actually admit it? Did you get your account from ebay? When are you gonna admit that your caught and stop giving BIG's reputation an increase instead of doing the damage you intend?
There are massive and glaring inconsistancies in the events as described by TornSoul. While I doubt that the upper echelons of BIG really have any need to scam people, Tion is at best a peon in their organization. The evidence that TornSoul posted seems to strongly suggust that he may have been playing off the BIG name to run a scam aution (and 750m is a pretty decent chunk of change for ~3-4 hours work that this would take).
TornSoul seems to have glossed over or downplayed problems with the theory that he posted. It seems to me like he was fed a somewhat-disjointed story with a poor quality screenshot, and failed to investigate any deeper simply because it was a (rather new) corpmate.
If it were really BIG attempting to scam people (for a rather laughable sum of 750m), I also suspect that TornSoul's story would have been far more cohesive and been supported by much more then a single highly compressed screenshot. They dont strike me as an organization that would turn to crime in such an incompetent manner. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Pandora Panda on 16/12/2004 10:20:02
Originally by: Mrs Hauler Who are you -- (nobody) who is BIG -- (Well known corp with proven track record that deal in many billions)
Frankly love him or hate him Tornsoul wouldn't stoop to this crap - your trying to convince 20k of players that he would do a total u-turn for no apparent reason that protecting a member or stealing some ISK -well this is one player that you won't convince. He said at the beginning of the thread char transfer is not something he wants his corp to do - now we see why scammers like you targetting the T2 corps to try and damage thier rep -- well done you have just improved it 100 fold. To Tornsoul - fantastic work and the funniest story I've read for a long time.
This coupled with the evidence given = Fret you are a total idiot - that screenshot shoots you down in flames - You gave it a try and failed - move on nothing more to do here. PS if there is a conspiracy here then try these are you and axee in this together ? was it your intention to attack BIG rather than go for the 750 mill- who's backing you? Are you that bitter and twisted that when caught you cant actually admit it? Did you get your account from ebay? When are you gonna admit that your caught and stop giving BIG's reputation an increase instead of doing the damage you intend?
There are massive and glaring inconsistancies in the events as described by TornSoul. While I doubt that the upper echelons of BIG really have any need to scam people, Tion is at best a peon in their organization. The evidence that TornSoul posted seems to strongly suggust that he may have been playing off the BIG name to run a scam aution (and 750m is a pretty decent chunk of change for ~3-4 hours work that this would take).
TornSoul seems to have glossed over or downplayed problems with the theory that he posted. It seems to me like he was fed a somewhat-disjointed story with a poor quality screenshot, and failed to investigate any deeper simply because it was a (rather new) corpmate.
If it were really BIG attempting to scam people (for a rather laughable sum of 750m), I also suspect that TornSoul's story would have been far more cohesive and been supported by much more then a single highly compressed screenshot. They dont strike me as an organization that would turn to crime in such an incompetent manner. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Jim Steele 1) how did fret conferm he had the character when he was online and post, without logging off. The logs clearly show he didnt leave the chat log.
Only thing I can think of (since the character sheet is still disabled) is Forums - Settings, where you see a dropdown with your characters.
How would the logs show that he'd left? I know that my corp public channel doesnt show join/parts, and they arent in any of my text logs either. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.16 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari
Originally by: Jim Steele 1) how did fret conferm he had the character when he was online and post, without logging off. The logs clearly show he didnt leave the chat log.
Only thing I can think of (since the character sheet is still disabled) is Forums - Settings, where you see a dropdown with your characters.
How would the logs show that he'd left? I know that my corp public channel doesnt show join/parts, and they arent in any of my text logs either. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.16 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: s4mp3r0r What if :
Axee = Tion = Fret ? God, I love a good mystery 
I doubt that. If that were the case, Tion/Axee would have obviously taken the money and run, to force tornsoul to pay Fret 750m. Since they didnt, and this drama started, it can be reasonably concluded that they are not fret. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |

Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.12.16 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: s4mp3r0r What if :
Axee = Tion = Fret ? God, I love a good mystery 
I doubt that. If that were the case, Tion/Axee would have obviously taken the money and run, to force tornsoul to pay Fret 750m. Since they didnt, and this drama started, it can be reasonably concluded that they are not fret. -------------------------------------------- CONCORD: Kneecapping Pilots for Misdemeanors Since 2003 |
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