Originally by: a51 duke1406

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The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Peace in Afghanistan, maybe?

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Originally by: a51 duke1406

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The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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Peace in Afghanistan, maybe?

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Originally by: caka ringrawer

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Would the world change?

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Originally by: steveid

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Edited by: steveid on 22/05/2010 23:27:45
A few things:

1) China would gain even more control over world resources to such an extent that within 15 years America would be bankrupt

2) Hundreds of thousands of people in America would be out of a job as they depend on the production of military consumables

3) World war three would break out as the rest of the world aimed to gain a balance with the two major superpowers after America. This would be precipitated by a North Korean invasion, backed in proxy by China followed by a takeover over Taiwan and probably Japan. In the middle east war would begin immediately through Israel and its rivals and without America's backing China would support India in its war with Pakistan. The likely result in this would be thermonuclear war.

4) Without America's backing Europe would pull together into the makings of a superstate and NATO would collapse. In all likelihood this superstate would be so impotent as to stay out of the wars until it was too late.

5) Inside of 20 years America would be at civil war

as an edit i'll tell you what would NOT happen. America would not be more liked. It would not be economically better off. It would not prevent terrorism, on the contrary it would increase it.

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Originally by: jason hill

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not at all this is a scenario

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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin

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/me spreads the tinfoil.

The world was such an awful place prior to the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. XD

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Originally by: steveid

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Edited by: steveid on 22/05/2010 23:27:45
A few things:

1) China would gain even more control over world resources to such an extent that within 15 years America would be bankrupt

2) Hundreds of thousands of people in America would be out of a job as they depend on the production of military consumables

3) World war three would break out as the rest of the world aimed to gain a balance with the two major superpowers after America. This would be precipitated by a North Korean invasion, backed in proxy by China followed by a takeover over Taiwan and probably Japan. In the middle east war would begin immediately through Israel and its rivals and without America's backing China would support India in its war with Pakistan. The likely result in this would be thermonuclear war.

4) Without America's backing Europe would pull together into the makings of a superstate and NATO would collapse. In all likelihood this superstate would be so impotent as to stay out of the wars until it was too late.

5) Inside of 20 years America would be at civil war

as an edit i'll tell you what would NOT happen. America would not be more liked. It would not be economically better off. It would not prevent terrorism, on the contrary it would increase it.

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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France would step in and again become a major player on the international scene, yes France.

The US would go into terminal decline and soon rival the post industrial wasteland that is the UK.

I don't see China backing India, if anything they'd play Pakistan and India against each other.

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Originally by: ReaperOfSly

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The Second Spanish Empire would happen of course.

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Originally by: steveid

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1) China would gain even more control over world resources to such an extent that within 15 years America would be bankrupt

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Originally by: CCP Shadow

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*snip* Castration successful. Shadow.

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Originally by: jason hill

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Originally by: jason hill

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not at all this is a scenario

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this isnt a case of would be more of a case that might be.... which is totally different

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Originally by: Zions Child

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China lies about its economic growth, and everyone knows it, except the Chinese. There is no such thing as GDP super expansion for the duration they've had it, and even if it is true, they're more than likely going to hit the ground harder than anyone if the world economy slows down enough.

As for the Chinese military, lol. More numbers does not = superior military, as evidenced in the Korean war, where US bases were overrun because they ran out of ammo. Something that could be easily rectified if we played a war with them intelligently.

Either way, the points are moot, because the powers that actually be are the mega-corporations like ConAgra, Dow, Royal Dutch Shell, etc. WWIII would hurt their profit margin, so they're not likely to let it happen. We all like to believe we live in democracies/republics/constitutional monarchies and aren't run by industry, but the truth is that corporations are the ones who hold the reins of World Politics.

As such, it is to their financial detriment to remove the U.S troops from their current locations, thus, only exceptionally strong local or American opinion would get the troops off of other lands. And even that isn't a guarantee.

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Originally by: stoicfaux

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Edited by: stoicfaux on 23/05/2010 02:55:47
Edited by: stoicfaux on 23/05/2010 02:52:43

* Taiwan would return back to China.
* Japan would have to scramble to re-militarize itself before China finished with Taiwan.
* Afghanistan would probably fall back to feuding warlords or fall to the Taliban.
* Pakistan taliban/insurgents would probably destabilize Pakistan. Pakistan has nukes, so either terrorists would get nukes or India and Pakistan would nuke each other as India steps in to prevent the destabilization of Pakistan.
* India has a billion people and would probably jump on the chance to increase their military and exert regional influence.
* Indo-china is going to light up in a tug of war between India, China, Japan, maybe Russia, and maybe even Australia.
* The Middle East Arab states would probably make another try to wipe Israel off the map.
* Israel might do something extremely preemptive when it longer has to worry about appeasing Washington.
* The EU (especially the French and Germans) would pump up their military to compensate for the loss of NATO.
* Russia might actually try to subjugate some of the former soviet republics. At the very least Russia would seek to expand/exert its global diplomacy and increase it's arms sales.
* Russia and China might make snarling noises at each other, but I don't think there would be any direct confrontation.
* Australia might wig out in fear of China expanding it's influence down to New Zealand.
* No idea if Australia's current government is reactionary/conservative enough to pull a Falklands or Mussolini and try to do some (incompetent) empire expansion.
* The UK would freak out and either really join the EU, or fire up a military-industrial complex and try to rebuild their navy and nukes to exert influence.
* Central and South America would have a few wars as local dictators pull a few "****** Hussiens" and try to conquer their neighbors.
* Mexico. Jesus, I don't even want to think of what would happen in Mexico if the US pulled out of world affairs.
* North Korea would feel emboldened.
* South Korea would [bleep] its pants and militarize.
* US arms manufacturers would have record world wide sales, which would increase the US economy's dependence on a military industrial complex to levels beyond that of the Cold War.
* The UN would probably become much less useful as the US abstains from most votes and stops being the "world police."
* Iran would make a play at being a regional power.
* Iran's neighbors would build up and crash start nuclear weapons programs.
* Israel would probably nuke Iran.
* Canada would still be Canada.

Edit: forgot about Iran.

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