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PR0PHETOFDOOM
Caldari
Wolfram Corp
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Posted - 2010.05.23 13:56:00 -
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This is going to be the thread that ends all of the "omg drama what happened to evegoons?!" threads. I've written it in the third person because it sounded better.
Backstory: For more than 2 years, goonkind have been totally unable to get their **** together to create a viable, functional gooncorp that could last more than a month or two before being rocked by horrendous drama and dissolved as goons went seperate ways.
Part of this is because Eve encourages high amounts of independence because literally nothing stops you from leaving your corp and joining a completely different corp sixty jumps away in another part of the universe in the same day. Part of this is because Eve also encourages griefing on huge levels: there is no "fraud court" in Eve, corp theft is virtually unpunishable once the offender leaves, Concord high-security protects people from vengeance in Empire, and the GMs have no policy against scamming or griefing as long as it's not done from the Eve-o forums.
But most of the reason why most of the vets you've met in Eve so far hold the philosophy that "gooncorps never last" is that people from SA are intelligent veterans of other MMOs, and carry themselves with a healthy amount of ego. When goons fled from everquest and asheron's call to come play Eve, they had no idea how deep the griefing could really go, since Eve is totally unlike most mainstream MMOs. Thus when Istvaan griefed the first gooncorp way back in early 2004 and hired mercenaries to literally hunt newbies until they had nothing left to fly but newbie ships, lots of older goons decided that this game was really all about being a complete *******.
Every attempt thereafter to create a stable gooncorp: Yulai Financial, Red Hammer Industries, Awful Industries, Free State Project, Leonard J. Crabs I, Leonard J. Crabs II, GoonCorpse, Regulars, on and on - every single one of them eventually failed. Most often the cause of death was drama caused by a small handful of goons that resulted in the entire corp being town apart by strife and everyone becoming disgusted and quitting for better things. Red Hammer Industries fell apart because a goon (who was never caught) stole several BILLION isk in minerals from the hangars, and Aliksr just couldn't figure out where it went while he was trying to pay off his investors, so he slowly gave up and the corp dissolved, leaving several people hundreds of millions of isk in the hole. Free State Project fell apart when Remedial stole some ore from a big corp which took the event as an opportunity to extort and then grief the corp until the goons again scattered. Leonard J. Crabs I was infiltrated by goons who already belonged to enemy corps, and then spied on until every op it held was essentially public knowledge and griefed until the corp fell apart. Gooncorps in Eve have been a history of failed dreams - but what is worst is that it really jaded a lot of the older goons and made them cynical to the point that simply forecasted doom and gloom and the worst of all scenarios whenever anything mildly dramatic happened.
Read more at: (i cant post it all here because of limits) Linkage
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spudzonatron
Gallente
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.23 14:06:00 -
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tldr; Terrible wall of text with ****** link that makes you cash and steals my passwords.
Also, "third person" doesn't mean what you think it means.
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PR0PHETOFDOOM
Caldari
Wolfram Corp
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Posted - 2010.05.23 14:07:00 -
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 Originally by: spudzonatron
tldr; Terrible wall of text with ****** link that makes you cash and steals my passwords.
Also, "third person" doesn't mean what you think it means.
"Steals my passwords" - wtf? get a clue
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NRKey
Gallente
Assisted Genocide
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Posted - 2010.05.23 14:07:00 -
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Your linkage gave me a free gift of $2087.56.
Thanks a lot fella 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.23 14:38:00 -
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Why didn't you link it in text instead of screenshot form? That's seriously stupid.
Interesting read but you aren't remedial are you tho so why post something he wrote years ago ?
PS; GH-SC actually griefed like the first ~3 gooncorps out of existence, not just the first one, and Istvaan didn't need to "hire" mercs, we did it for fun ;O
Glad we stopped griefing them tho, noobswarm was awesome.
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CCP Adida
Gallente
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.23 15:46:00 -
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This post was clearly set up for player's to click on a link. Locked because the link is not appropriate for the forums.
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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