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Checksum54
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Posted - 2010.05.25 00:36:00 -
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I've been running a lot of Angel Havens lately, and looking to the future I would like to run sanctums too as they become available to me. However, having tried one, I have a question:
In the havens, everything spawns more or less on top of the warp-in, making a torp raven superb for quickly clearing it. However, in the sanctum I tried, rats spawned far away, sometimes as far as 100km, rendering my torps pretty much useless. Will rats in Sanctums always spawn this far away from me, or is there a trick to having them spawn on you?
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Alex Wise
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Posted - 2010.05.25 05:04:00 -
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I did alot of sanctums and i don't see any trick. They spawn at different distances from station/rings (usually pretty far) and sanctums as i saw don't suit torp boats too well. The orbit range of rats is about 40 km and u have to wait long time till they get in range of ur torps.
Said that u can make waiting time shorter by being near the station/central ring (depends on the sanctum type).
The damage they do is to high to take alone in T1 BS unless u r gonna snipe them and then it will take pretty long time.
Stick to heavens until u upgrade to faction/T2 BS.
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Jaskey
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Rat Pack Renegades
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Posted - 2010.05.25 06:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Alex Wise
Stick to heavens until u upgrade to faction/T2 BS.
Or use a Hac....
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Ka choop
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Posted - 2010.05.25 12:10:00 -
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Sanctums are more suited for bigger groups of players, even carrier support. If you want to make as much ISK as possible with 1-2 players havens are better even when you can do sanctums.
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Checksum54
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Posted - 2010.05.25 12:12:00 -
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I have access to a whole range of different ships, including hac's, t3 and faction battleships. However, I'm just not sure if these can beat the torp raven doing havens, in terms of isk/hour. Since everything in Havens orbit within rage torp range, except 1-2bs in the last wave that are easily popped before they get out of range anyway, the killing speed and thus isk/hour is quite high. Changing to for instance a cruise cnr or a cerberus/tengu would mean a pretty severe loss in dps, resulting in less bounties.
I do not have much experience with sanctums tho, so if someone has some experience on how to make them more profitable than havens, please do tell.
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debbie harrio
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Posted - 2010.05.25 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Checksum54
I do not have much experience with sanctums tho, so if someone has some experience on how to make them more profitable than havens, please do tell.
Vargur, doubles profit, use barrage.
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Hyey
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Posted - 2010.05.25 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ka choop
Sanctums are more suited for bigger groups of players, even carrier support. If you want to make as much ISK as possible with 1-2 players havens are better even when you can do sanctums.
Sanctums are suited for Vargurs.
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Hyey
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Revii Lagoon
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Posted - 2010.05.25 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jaskey
Originally by: Alex Wise
Stick to heavens until u upgrade to faction/T2 BS.
Or use a Hac....
This actually doesn't work well against angels. A lot of ships target paint which severely increases the damage you take in a HAC.
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Checksum54
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Posted - 2010.05.26 00:20:00 -
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Vargur looks like a good ship for the job, thanks for that. Guess its time to start cross-training! :)
Looking at battleclinic ive found some nice fits for it, but they all seem to use pretty expensive modules. As I do expect to lose the ship at some point, reducing the price of the fit seems like a good idea, if it is still viable. Does anyone know how a t2 fit Vargur would handle the incoming dps in a sanctum? I can also support it with a 2nd account running a salvage/logistics domi, if that is needed.
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debbie harrio
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Posted - 2010.05.26 10:48:00 -
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Well 800T2's in the high's using Barrage alongside 2 * tractor and one salvager
Mids, this is where it is worth spending a bit of ISK, a medium Pithum A booster alongside a Pith X type boost amplifier will perma run without cap mods or rigs but are very expensive and alongside 1 EM hardener, 1 Kinetic Hardener and 1 Explosive hardener will not be bothered in the slightest with the DPS that a sanctum throws out, fit an Afterburner as well.
You could upgrade to a gist C type large or similar and a lesser boost amp, or even go for 2 cheaper medium boosters, running one perma and boosting with the second to save cap, these type of setups will need cap mods or rigs, personally I prefer to use my rig slots for things other than cap rigs, when you have isk to spare you can then upgrade the booster.
Lows, I always fit a DC2 for the simple reason it gives an unstacked 12.5% resits to armour and shields and a whopping 60% to structure, if things go south that could save your ship.
3 Gyro's and 1 Target enhancer, some people like more TE's than gyro's but for angels 3 gyro 1 TE is ideal, you have 90km optimal + fall off there.
rigs 1 burst accelerator and whatever other you fancy.
HTH, play with EFT and check prices, the only things I would recommend getting faction/deadspace atm are the Booster and boost amp, checking prices some of the lesser variants are very affordable.
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