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Ganagati Caldari Dark Ashes	Posted - 2010.05.26 21:55:00 - [31] Originally by: Akita T They already stated in the devblog the payout will be the one for when the explosion happens, NOT the one from when the contract was issued. Reason ? Less code to write, less database space munched up, less exploitability between insurance cycles. In other words "We're too lazy to do this properly, so we'll just make the change with the least amount of effort and you can deal with the rest". Outstanding I expected as much, though, considering it was only a few weeks ago they announced this insurance thing. Glad I don't have 92 ravens insured =D I just lost about 100m, which isn't near as bad as 4b lol
Rexthor Hammerfists Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.26 21:57:00 - [32] Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 26/05/2010 21:57:12 that brings me back http://ccp4tw.ytmnd.com/ -
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.05.26 21:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Ganagati Originally by: Akita T They already stated in the devblog the payout will be the one for when the explosion happens, NOT the one from when the contract was issued. Reason ? Less code to write, less database space munched up, less exploitability between insurance cycles. In other words "We're too lazy to do this properly, so we'll just make the change with the least amount of effort and you can deal with the rest". Outstanding I expected as much, though, considering it was only a few weeks ago they announced this insurance thing. Glad I don't have 92 ravens insured =D I just lost about 100m, which isn't near as bad as 4b lol No, I'm pretty sure CCP intended it to happen this way, as opposed to simply being lazy. Why would they grandfather in the contracts made in the obsolete system?
Cate Fenring Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.05.26 21:58:00 - [34] Originally by: HellGate fr I insured all of them before the extension was released, so the payout wouldn't change when the server's up. Well, it did change actually, and unfortunately. Oh well you made enough billions from the other 500,000 BSs you blew up before, better luck next time!
soren tores	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:01:00 - [35] Edited by: soren tores on 26/05/2010 22:01:30 Originally by: HellGate fr Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:36:54 I'm not insurance frauding, I bought and took to low sec and insured all these ravens before downtime because I thought those were gonna be the last cheap pvp raven of my life. It took me the entire day to move them all I got scammed by CCP bullsh** your not insurance exchanging them, if you planning on losing 90 ravens in real pvp in 12 weeks youone poor ass pirate.
TheOldBrutos Minmatar Yarrbear Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:02:00 - [36] Originally by: Cate Fenring Originally by: HellGate fr I insured all of them before the extension was released, so the payout wouldn't change when the server's up. Well, it did change actually, and unfortunately. Oh well you made enough billions from the other 500,000 BSs you blew up before, better luck next time! check killboard and dont say stupidity. We know the fraud, but the owner of the thread dont do this ****... you're pathetic at replying http://eve-pk.net
Cate Fenring Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:07:00 - [37] Originally by: TheOldBrutos Originally by: Cate Fenring Originally by: HellGate fr I insured all of them before the extension was released, so the payout wouldn't change when the server's up. Well, it did change actually, and unfortunately. Oh well you made enough billions from the other 500,000 BSs you blew up before, better luck next time! check killboard and dont say stupidity. We know the fraud, but the owner of the thread dont do this ****... you're pathetic at replying I'm so sorry! Of course he does post on his main and of course everyone and his dog buys 92 ravens and platinum insures them just for fun!!
TheOldBrutos Minmatar Yarrbear Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:09:00 - [38] Edited by: TheOldBrutos on 26/05/2010 22:09:37 Originally by: Arvano I can't help but laugh. After all the trillions people have made dishonestly by insuring and losing ships on purpose, it's nice to see someone losing such a large amount. Feel free to send my your stuff, I never make my money in greasy ways like insurance fraud and I'm poor, so your stuff would be a great help. And is not a real lost of 3.49b. Is a 1.2b real lost ATM and is just 1.2b of futur profit loss of more than 10b profit win. You didnt understood what Hellgate wanted to explain. And yes I am a russian with real english skill http://eve-pk.net
HellGate fr Yarrbear Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:11:00 - [39] Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 22:11:12 Well yes, I wouldn't bother moving 90+ bs from jita to low sec just to make some "fraud" and destroy them all here... If I was frauding, I'd do this at jita like all those frauders we see there. My intention was just to save some ravens before it's too late... We're not talking about griefing or anything else, just about one fact : ships insured before the release won't have the payback it was meant to be. I think that wasn't in the patchnotes. What was in the patchnotes was that the insurance was being changed, and I agree with it.
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:11:00 - [40] Originally by: HellGate fr I have 92 insured ravens. What the fk ever for?! You can only lose one at a time! -- Nah, that's just my Asperger's kickin' in.**

Steve Celeste Caldari Inglorious-Basterds	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:11:00 - [41] "pvp raven"
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:13:00 - [42] Originally by: Musical Fist Originally by: HellGate fr Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:30:43 Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:30:10 I have 92 insured ravens. I insured them BEFORE the release of Tyrannis. I thought subscribing to an insurance was a contract ? You don't change a contract. I just lost a raven to check if I get paid back for the amount that was specified when I did this insurance contract. I didn't get the 108.75m I was meant to get for this loss, I ONLY got 70.8m. I paid 32.62m for each insured raven. I just lost (108.75-70.8)92m. I just lost... 3.49b. Now CCP explain to my family why I killed myself. IB4 can I get your stuff. Seriously, why did you change the payback of already PAID insurances ? I was expecting everything but this. HA HA HA* This. - Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust. Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:13:00 - [43] Originally by: HellGate fr Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 22:11:12 Well yes, I wouldn't bother moving 90+ bs from jita to low sec just to make some "fraud" and destroy them all here... If I was frauding, I'd do this at jita like all those frauders we see there. My intention was just to save some ravens before it's too late... We're not talking about griefing or anything else, just about one fact : ships insured before the release won't have the payback it was meant to be. I think that wasn't in the patchnotes. What was in the patchnotes was that the insurance was being changed, and I agree with it. Yes, and you stupidly assumed that existing contracts in the old system would be grandfathered in.
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:14:00 - [44] Originally by: Guillame Herschel Originally by: HellGate fr I have 92 insured ravens. What the f*k ever for?! You can only lose one at a time! -- "If itÆs true that our species is alone in the universe, then IÆd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little"* George Carlin
Cate Fenring Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:14:00 - [45] Edited by: Cate Fenring on 26/05/2010 22:14:58 Originally by: Guillame Herschel Originally by: HellGate fr I have 92 insured ravens. What the f*k ever for?! You can only lose one at a time! Next to that insurance only lasts like 3 months you know ... after that you have to insure the ships again!* But perhaps he isn't a fraud, just one happy suicide ganker ..
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:19:00 - [46] OP, I have collected your tears and marketed them as sex lube. This is clearly a signature.
Torus Nunn Amarr THE DISC	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:21:00 - [47] Originally by: HellGate fr Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:30:43 Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:30:10 I have 92 insured ravens. That's your fail right there.
Kalanar Wrecking Shots Hostile Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:28:00 - [48] Don't lie, you had every intention of "frauding". You moved out of Jita because you didn't want to get caught easily. I'm not sure who you think you're tricking. Now, I came back to the game at the start of April and haven't flown any Ravens, but if the insurance value was still at 100m back then, you "frauded" with this kill... Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9996350#ixzz0p4oB0t9a You fit a tech 1 raven and then had your corp mate, who I'm assuming was involved in this fraud, to blow you up. It isn't even a good tech 1 fit. I'm guessing you fit it period to avoid all the fraud. You spent more money fitting your Crow and Manticore than you did your Raven. Sounds like fraud to me. You made an easy 20m on that Raven. Now, lets say you were planning fraud. Fit your ships like that and have your friend blow them up, and you make (108-80)*92 = 2576m. So, you can quit lying to us. You've already done it. You are just better at covering your tracks than others. And, obviously you'll just reply, "No, you're wrong for X reason", but so is the nature of the intelligent scammer. I could understand if you were a noob and you had one or maybe two ravens and you were made at losing a couple million, but you're not, so stop complaining.
Orree Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:33:00 - [49] The feel good thread of the day right'chere... ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Amanda Eidolo Adamantine Resolve	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:34:00 - [50] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Musical Fist Originally by: HellGate fr Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:30:43 Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:30:10 I have 92 insured ravens. I insured them BEFORE the release of Tyrannis. I thought subscribing to an insurance was a contract ? You don't change a contract. I just lost a raven to check if I get paid back for the amount that was specified when I did this insurance contract. I didn't get the 108.75m I was meant to get for this loss, I ONLY got 70.8m. I paid 32.62m for each insured raven. I just lost (108.75-70.8)92m. I just lost... 3.49b. Now CCP explain to my family why I killed myself. IB4 can I get your stuff. Seriously, why did you change the payback of already PAID insurances ? I was expecting everything but this. HA HA HA* This. -------- ¦

HellGate fr Yarrbear Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:37:00 - [51] Originally by: Kalanar Don't lie, you had every intention of "frauding". You moved out of Jita because you didn't want to get caught easily. I'm not sure who you think you're tricking. Now, I came back to the game at the start of April and haven't flown any Ravens, but if the insurance value was still at 100m back then, you "frauded" with this kill... Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9996350#ixzz0p4oB0t9a You fit a tech 1 raven and then had your corp mate, who I'm assuming was involved in this fraud, to blow you up. It isn't even a good tech 1 fit. I'm guessing you fit it period to avoid all the fraud. You spent more money fitting your Crow and Manticore than you did your Raven. Sounds like fraud to me. You made an easy 20m on that Raven. Now, lets say you were planning fraud. Fit your ships like that and have your friend blow them up, and you make (108-80)*92 = 2576m. So, you can quit lying to us. You've already done it. You are just better at covering your tracks than others. And, obviously you'll just reply, "No, you're wrong for X reason", but so is the nature of the intelligent scammer. I could understand if you were a noob and you had one or maybe two ravens and you were made at losing a couple million, but you're not, so stop complaining. You can't be serious, this was just intern corp hulkageddon event... BTW you have to pay for insurance, so in that case you lose money loosing the ship, even with no fitting...
Kalanar Wrecking Shots Hostile Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:53:00 - [52] Well done losing a Raven "to check if I get padi back for the amount that was specified when I did this insurance contract". Obviously you were intending to PVP, so you lost a ship magically. Also, your calculations of your loss are incorrect. You lost (current insurance price - old insurance price) x 92. Your calculations of loss are for how much money you would have lost for scamming the Ravens. So, once again, you are even looking at your problem with a scammers perspective.
Marty Chang	Posted - 2010.05.26 22:58:00 - [53] Originally by: Kalanar Well done losing a Raven "to check if I get padi back for the amount that was specified when I did this insurance contract". Obviously you were intending to PVP, so you lost a ship magically. Also, your calculations of your loss are incorrect. You lost (current insurance price - old insurance price) x 92. Your calculations of loss are for how much money you would have lost for scamming the Ravens. So, once again, you are even looking at your problem with a scammers perspective. Learn 2 eve lol
Admiral Pelleon White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2010.05.26 23:01:00 - [54] Anyone with enough liquid ISK to afford 92 ravens shouldn't really give a **** about insurance. ________ Chicago players channel: 'Windy City'
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.05.26 23:01:00 - [55] Anti-Fraud measures kick off with a vengeance it seems. - DesuSigs - Now with ThreadAssignÖ and SigSelectÖ
TheOldBrutos Minmatar Yarrbear Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.26 23:09:00 - [56] Edited by: TheOldBrutos on 26/05/2010 23:09:36 Originally by: Kalanar [...] Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9996350#ixzz0p4oB0t9a You fit a tech 1 raven and then had your corp mate, who I'm assuming was involved in this fraud, to blow you up. It isn't even a good tech 1 fit. I'm guessing you fit it period to avoid all the fraud. [...] No, Halaima IXPlanet (Barren) Halaima IX - Ice Field 1Ice Field http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=9996350#ixzz0p4oB0t9a Read MOAR : http://eve-pk.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=2720 - I remember lot of fun and fraud before a pos bash ops russian forever http://eve-pk.net
HellGate fr Yarrbear Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.26 23:11:00 - [57] Yeah what a fraud
Kalanar Wrecking Shots Hostile Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.26 23:16:00 - [58] Originally by: Marty Chang Originally by: Kalanar Well done losing a Raven "to check if I get padi back for the amount that was specified when I did this insurance contract". Obviously you were intending to PVP, so you lost a ship magically. Also, your calculations of your loss are incorrect. You lost (current insurance price - old insurance price) x 92. Your calculations of loss are for how much money you would have lost for scamming the Ravens. So, once again, you are even looking at your problem with a scammers perspective. Learn 2 eve lol No, you don't understand. I could easily go lose a Raven if I wanted to, but he didn't post the lost, so I'm assuming he literally suicided it to check if he still made a profit. And regardless of your Hulkageddon bullcrap, you still calculate your losses wrong, you lost much less than you assume. You calculated loss profit, given you were a suicider. Your loss isn't that big and you should have read the patch notes, or just "frauded" before the patch.
Marty Chang	Posted - 2010.05.26 23:20:00 - [59] lol no you suck learn mathematics before you open your mouth
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.26 23:22:00 - [60] Originally by: HellGate fr Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:30:43 Edited by: HellGate fr on 26/05/2010 21:30:10 I have 92 insured ravens. I insured them BEFORE the release of Tyrannis. I thought subscribing to an insurance was a contract ? You don't change a contract. I just lost a raven to check if I get paid back for the amount that was specified when I did this insurance contract. I didn't get the 108.75m I was meant to get for this loss, I ONLY got 70.8m. I paid 32.62m for each insured raven. I just lost (108.75-70.8)92m. I just lost... 3.49b. Now CCP explain to my family why I killed myself. IB4 can I get your stuff. Seriously, why did you change the payback of already PAID insurances ? I was expecting everything but this. The Dan is slightly amused about this Apply \| CBSN Lounge*



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