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Drake Neutrino
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:39:00 -
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Given the Tyrannis changes to missions, I decided it was time to re-evaluate my mission running with the aim of making enough to pay for 2 accounts through plexes with a little bit on the side to pvp with.
Currently my setup involves a single character flying a CNR with faction launchers/bcus and a deadspace shield booster. Having done my forum research, I've decided not to train for a Golem and use the training time for another alt on the same account. The only reason I don't have a second account is because I can't really afford another sub. However, if the account could effectively pay for itself through plexes, it would be a no-brainer to start dual-boxing. At the moment I don't need to go afk when missioning but do tend to read a book or surf the net, pressing F1 every once in a while. Dual boxing would presumably make missioning a bit more busy and hopefully less boring as well.
I have 2 main questions:
1.) Is it worth getting a second account and will it able to pay for itself with a reasonably small (<5 hours per week mission grinding ideally) time investment?
2.) If I do get another account, I'd obviously have to start from scratch so what would complement a reasonably efficient pimped-out CNR missioning in Caldari space? I'm not completely averse to changing the primary missioning ship if there is a better gang setup and obviously that would also free up a lot of cash.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:44:00 -
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2 x CNR running their own missions is pretty easy and decent isk.
Otherwise I guess 1 x CNR + dominix remote repping with drones assigned to CNR is better if you aren't capable of micro managing 2 x CNR.
It is pretty easy to pay for 1 account with the income of 2 from missioning I think. Nice to fill the rest of the alt slots up with research alts once your CNR pilot is max skilled (take about a year or so I think).
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Drake Neutrino
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:46:00 -
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Thanks for the quick reply, I was thinking about whether it would be more profitable to run the 2 accounts in parallel or in the same mission together anyway. Anyone else have any experience with that?
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:56:00 -
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Imo to start with dual box both character in the same mission. Once you have good dps skills you get so many wasted volley that you might as well run each character in their own mission unless you aren't capable/cbf micro manage targets/aggro across 2 mission.
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Astald Ohtar
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:57:00 -
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i fly a nightmare and a catalyst =), and im gonna continue doing that =D
the nightmare got around 800 dps, with less than 300 sustained tank, just enough to blow everything to pieces.
i get around 150m for bounties, and a bit more with loot , for like 8-10 hours hardcore missioning ,load of lps (didn't bother to see how much =p) up to 7000k for a good mission , so i might be around 7-10k per hour around 100k lp per missioning session
so in a weekend i can pay 2 plexes and get enough money to pvp or get new fancy toys 
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saftre5
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:44:00 -
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I run missions in 2x CNR (or 2x Drake in case of L3). I agree that it helps keep things at least somewhat exciting. In my experience though, it seems best to run them together in the same mission. I have tried running different missions, but that does get quite confusing and hard to keep track of everything. Another bonus of running the missions together is that you can use remote repair in situations where one gets all the aggro and the other gets nothing.
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ManFinancical
Amarr
The Circle
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.05.31 05:52:00 -
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just a little word about that you cant afford another account, since your mission runner you have standings,,, get science skills and get datacores from R&D agents... do that on all of your chars and you can pretty much sustain the account with those :)
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Zanes Shoubje
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:59:00 -
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Before Tyrannis It was very easy to earn the isk for 2 plexes by missioning. I think, havent done the math, two evenings of missions earned one.
I had one char in a Amarr BS and the other flying a salvage Harby carrying 5 extra drones to add to the dps.
After Tyrannis I dont know how easy it is, the meta 0 stuff was a nice isk earner.
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Astald Ohtar
Tous Pour Un
Une Pour Tous
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: Astald Ohtar on 31/05/2010 10:20:49
 Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Before Tyrannis It was very easy to earn the isk for 2 plexes by missioning. I think, havent done the math, two evenings of missions earned one.
I had one char in a Amarr BS and the other flying a salvage Harby carrying 5 extra drones to add to the dps.
After Tyrannis I dont know how easy it is, the meta 0 stuff was a nice isk earner.
bounties and lps are still the same , salvage is still the same ,loot is reduced by 40% in avg, and over 80% on merc missions , so a reduction of 20-30 % in term of total isk gains.
The only missions that got realy nerfed are merc missions, their drops were mostly the large guns, now its just a piece of junk not worth looting or even salvaging ... i miss the old gone berserk and the damsel
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:34:00 -
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Let me get this straight....CCP has just kicked you in the balls diminishing your means to make isk in missions and now you want to reward them by paying for another account? |
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Drake Neutrino
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Posted - 2010.05.31 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kidd
Let me get this straight....CCP has just kicked you in the balls diminishing your means to make isk in missions and now you want to reward them by paying for another account?
It was more of a conincidence that this expansion would nerf missions. It does seem that the income reduction is acceptable and encourages blitzing missions so I might do that in future. I think I'll wait until another special offer for a second account comes up and start one then. I'll tag it along with my main until it has the skills to solo lvl 4s and then run 2 missions in parallel.
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clixoras
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Posted - 2010.05.31 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Neutrino
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Let me get this straight....CCP has just kicked you in the balls diminishing your means to make isk in missions and now you want to reward them by paying for another account?
It was more of a conincidence that this expansion would nerf missions. It does seem that the income reduction is acceptable and encourages blitzing missions so I might do that in future. I think I'll wait until another special offer for a second account comes up and start one then. I'll tag it along with my main until it has the skills to solo lvl 4s and then run 2 missions in parallel.
Remember you can always use a buddy invite. That way you get 1,75 month free playtime (3/4 month for trial and 1 for buddy).
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drivinggod
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2010.05.31 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat
2 x CNR running their own missions is pretty easy and decent isk.
Otherwise I guess 1 x CNR + dominix remote repping with drones assigned to CNR is better if you aren't capable of micro managing 2 x CNR.
It is pretty easy to pay for 1 account with the income of 2 from missioning I think. Nice to fill the rest of the alt slots up with research alts once your CNR pilot is max skilled (take about a year or so I think).
I used to run a boggo Raven with a Domi as RR, and its not as easy as it sounds. You'll need a decent tank on the Domi or be constantly watching and fiddling - spawns can sometimes be unpredictable.
Personally I'd rather run two different missions with a Domi in a semi-afk setup than RR.
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