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LoLCakes Bake
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Posted - 2010.05.29 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: LoLCakes Bake on 29/05/2010 02:38:18 By solo'ing, I mean the ability to scan down the sites and clear them.
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Archon Grimnir
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Posted - 2010.05.29 04:37:00 -
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T1 Arbitrator -- Works just like a Vexor. Drones do all dps the work. T2 Pilgrim -- same thing as arbitrator only much better. T3 Legion
dont forget to add gravity capacitor rigs to the arbitrator and pilgrim especially.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.29 05:25:00 -
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not sure about mag sites, but radar site rats are a joke.
A sacri will run them .. arguably faster (drones vs missiles), but lacks the survivability of a pilgrim in hostile 0.0
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Randon Alt67
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Posted - 2010.05.29 05:49:00 -
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Depends on where you are running them as well, but typically an Arby/Pilgrim is the best setup.
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LoLCakes Bake
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Posted - 2010.05.29 08:03:00 -
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Can you recommend a Pilgrim fit?
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.29 08:08:00 -
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pilgrim fit? yeah..
token gun salvager probe cloak
mwd/ab (0.0/ lowsec) cap rechargers codebreaker analyzer
5 slot tank depending on area (i trust you know how to tank?)
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Kongkim 040382DK
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Posted - 2010.05.29 08:14:00 -
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Can the vexor be used to clear sites in 0.0 space also? or how hard is it there?
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LoLCakes Bake
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Posted - 2010.05.29 09:00:00 -
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Is it possible to use a curse? More potential for DPS.
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Daeralda
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Posted - 2010.05.29 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: Daeralda on 29/05/2010 09:02:54 I've occasionally done 0.0 mag/radar sites in a HML caracal. Took a while and had to kite the rat BSs to spread them out a bit. Not sure how a vexor compares in terms of tank/speed/DPS though.
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Archon Grimnir
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Posted - 2010.05.29 13:47:00 -
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I dont remember the curse's turret slots off the top of my head. It depends where youll be running them-- because the curse cant use a covert ops cloak. so keep that in mind.
Pilgrim Fit - Slightly different from what i use but should do the trick easy enough.
Lowslots -Damage Control II -Enegergized Adaptive Nano II -Specific Hardener II -Medium Armor Rep II -1600mm Tungsten Plate (takes awhile for rats to chew through your armor if theres alot of them ive done a few lowsec combat sites when im having trouble finding a mag or radar site -- if you do this make sure you know the triggers or youll get spanked)
Medium Slots -Cap Recharger x1 or x2 -ECM Burst x1 or x0 (helps for when you get caught with your pants down if you get probed - it will probably happen as drones have huge sig radius) -10mn MWD or Afterburner II x1 -Codebreaker x1 -Analyzer x1
Highslots - Heavy Pulse Laser II - Sisters Core Scan Probe Launcher (Note- the expanded launcher will NOT fit unless you have Recon V) - Salvager II - Covert Ops Cloaking Device II ------------------------ if you were very into doing exploration Id recommend getting a legion. Its just better all around. Especially if you are in hostile space and want to remain out of harms way. A full set of HG Grails or HG Halos and an ECCM or two would make you harder to probe out-- nigh impossible for most casual scanners. Theyd have better luck scanning the site down first.
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LoLCakes Bake
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Posted - 2010.05.29 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: LoLCakes Bake on 29/05/2010 16:42:32
Thanks
Can you recommend a Legion fit? I was thinking something like this:
[Legion, explorer] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Capacitor Power Relay II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Analyzer I Codebreaker I Cap Recharger II
Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency M Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Salvager I Improved Cloaking Device II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
Hammerhead II x5
The above fit is cap stable with either (1) both reppers on and the MWD off; or (2) one repper on and the MWD on.
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Archon Grimnir
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:13:00 -
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This is similar to what I use-- its pretty flexible so you can change things to what you'd like.
Exp. Legion ---------------
Lowslots ----------- Medium Armor Rep II - x1 or x2 (I use 2 when doing wormhole sites) Specific Hardner II - x1 or x2 (I drop a rep and use a 2nd specific hardner in lowsec sites - just personal preference) Damage Control II - x1 (not necessary though. personal preference) Heatsink II - X2 (Youll have to put these in if you want reasonable DPS. Hard to get around it)
Medslots ----------- Codebreaker x1 Analyzer x1 MWD or AB II x1 Cap Recharger II x1 (Not entirely necessary. Depends on how good your core skills are. Could fit something else)
Highslots ----------- Meta 4 Medium Pulse Lasers x3 (Should make time to train for T2 Medium Pulse lasers when you can it will help alot--More DPS to boot) Sisters Core Probe Launcher x1 or Sisters Expanded x1 Covert Ops Cloak II x1 Salvager x1
Rigs ------ Medium Auxillary Nano Pump I x1 Medium Nanobot Accelerator I x1 or x2 Medium Energy Collision Accelerator x0 or x1 (i dropped the second nano accelerator for this one to add more DPS)
Your fit is pretty solid. I would just make sure you get those core skills trained up a bit more. and skill those t2 lasers. even though it takes forrrrevverrr. its definately worth it.
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LoLCakes Bake
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Posted - 2010.05.29 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: LoLCakes Bake on 29/05/2010 17:26:04 What kind of DPS do you have with your fit? I get about 160 with T1 Multifreq.
With mine, even without heat sinks, I am getting around 275 (with drones).
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.29 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: LoLCakes Bake Edited by: LoLCakes Bake on 29/05/2010 17:45:12 What kind of DPS do you have with your fit? With your covops fit, I get about 160 (T1 Multifreq).
With my drone-fit, even without heat sinks, I am getting around 275 dps (including drone dmg).
the main difference between the two fits is that his can warp cloaked.
And yeah, <200 dps sounds about right for a covops legion
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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LoLCakes Bake
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Posted - 2010.05.29 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
Originally by: LoLCakes Bake Edited by: LoLCakes Bake on 29/05/2010 17:45:12 What kind of DPS do you have with your fit? With your covops fit, I get about 160 (T1 Multifreq).
With my drone-fit, even without heat sinks, I am getting around 275 dps (including drone dmg).
the main difference between the two fits is that his can warp cloaked.
And yeah, <200 dps sounds about right for a covops legion
Way as well go with a pilgrim then, as the drone damage will be about the same.
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Archon Grimnir
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Posted - 2010.05.29 19:34:00 -
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gettin 217dps with conflags. 150-160ish in scorch. idr but i might have two 5%s in implant slots 8 and 9. havent looked in awhile. im not in very friendly space most of the time. thus the cloak is necessary. not for everyone though.
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LoLCakes Bake
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Posted - 2010.05.29 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: LoLCakes Bake on 29/05/2010 21:34:08 Edited by: LoLCakes Bake on 29/05/2010 21:33:47 With an MWD and on/off-grid bookmarks at every gate, do you really need the cov ops II cloaking device? With the bookmarks you can check a get before warping to it. If you notice a camp after jumping, the MWD should allow you to jump back through the gate you warped in.
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Archon Grimnir
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Posted - 2010.05.29 22:34:00 -
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but i like to afk in nullsec mining systems. and i dont like being probed down because i dont like to play the warp around chase me game so they get all my bookmarks. or logoffski. if you dont want it on there then dont use it. lol.
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LoLCakes Bake
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Posted - 2010.05.29 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Archon Grimnir but i like to afk in nullsec mining systems. and i dont like being probed down because i dont like to play the warp around chase me game so they get all my bookmarks. or logoffski. if you dont want it on there then dont use it. lol.
You can't go afk with the improved cloaker?
I do see your general point though. All things being equal, of course the cov ops II device is far more convenient.
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