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Tach Narrows
Gallente Eden Security Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tach Narrows on 30/05/2010 20:16:38 Edited by: Tach Narrows on 30/05/2010 20:11:41 Greetings everyone!
I've got something to show you, if you're interested. Recently, I've started thinking about documenting all the misconducting pilots of New Eden, mostly criminals suspected of heavy thefts, breach of trust, scammers and alike. So, I started Eden Security Intelligence, a corporation devoted to enhancing security awareness of newcomers to New Eden and older citizens alike.
I've create a little database website that can be easily accessed through the game's browser where everyone who is considering new corporation members can check if they have a criminal background in order to avoid new incidents. The database is still being filled up, but I was wondering would the community appreciate something like this.
There is more information on the website and try entering some names of people who commited theft, scams and other honorless things. Try: Agent Shield, Adsterine, A Lifetaker, Asli or some other name, even yours and see how it works:
Eden Security Intelligence
If people like the concept, I'll keep working on it and assign a top-level domain. What do you think, guys (and girls)?
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Le Soltueur
Original Sin.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tach Narrows What do you think, guys (and girls)?
There are no girls in eve. Only guys pretending to be girls.
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Tach Narrows
Gallente Eden Security Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Le Soltueur
Originally by: Tach Narrows What do you think, guys (and girls)?
There are no girls in eve. Only guys pretending to be girls.
Hahahah, nice one. But there are some. =)
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roflcopterXx
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:22:00 -
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This guy thinks its a bad idea.
Plus, the people who are most affected by 'baddies' are too stupid to read the forums anyways.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Griffin on 30/05/2010 20:24:09 I like the concept. What I would like to see added:
1. Who made the accusations 2. Links to proof (if any) 3. If the crime has been verified 4. If the criminal has a rebuttal
It would also be neat to have a random criminal, with his name, portrait, and record displayed on the front page. Maybe a Most Wanted page as well.
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Tach Narrows
Gallente Eden Security Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Tach Narrows on 30/05/2010 20:35:16
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Edited by: Andrea Griffin on 30/05/2010 20:24:09 I like the concept. What I would like to see added:
1. Who made the accusations 2. Links to proof (if any) 3. If the crime has been verified 4. If the criminal has a rebuttal
It would also be neat to have a random criminal, with his name, portrait, and record displayed on the front page. Maybe a Most Wanted page as well.
Proof, verification and accusers will be logged (and a portrait for visual purposes), of course. Most wanted page is feasible. As for the random criminal, I'll have to check first with the design whether will it permit it.
Not quite, roflcopter... Most of the logged one are breaches of long-lasting trusts or planned incursions. Someone who is willing to compromise others in such a way should be publicly available. It's a part of the game, scammers and thiefs shouldn't disappear, they make the game interesting. I'm just furthering the roleplay with some twists in order to help people be more aware.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:28:00 -
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Just remember... "It wasn't me, it was my clone! I'm innocent, innocent I tell you!"
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Tach Narrows
Gallente Eden Security Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin Just remember... "It wasn't me, it was my clone! I'm innocent, innocent I tell you!"
That is always a problem, yes. But documenting proper, verified data should be an answer enough.
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Srialia
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tach Narrows
Originally by: Andrea Griffin Just remember... "It wasn't me, it was my clone! I'm innocent, innocent I tell you!"
That is always a problem, yes. But documenting proper, verified data should be an answer enough.
*Whoosh*
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Innocent Murderer
Unjustly Accused
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Posted - 2010.05.30 20:44:00 -
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It wasn't me, 'twas the one-armed man!
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:08:00 -
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This is a valuable and useful service that many of C&P community will embrace with open arms.
Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Lex Alandar
Q Division 5
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Lex Alandar on 30/05/2010 21:27:36 If you have success with this (measured in less players falling for scams, or cons, seems to be your intention) it will be thanks to an extensive advertising campaign across mission/market/noob hubs all over new eden.
Quite the endeavour.
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Tach Narrows
Gallente Eden Security Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lex Alandar Edited by: Lex Alandar on 30/05/2010 21:27:36 If you have success with this (measured in less players falling for scams, or cons, seems to be your intention) it will be thanks to an extensive advertising campaign across mission/market/noob hubs all over new eden.
Quite the endeavour.
Yes, that would be quite an endeavour. I am just going to keep working on it, and if it's worth anything, people will recognize it. If not, good times anyways. =)
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.05.31 01:48:00 -
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"Lana Torrin is not listed in the esi-4 public criminal database."
Yep, working great. Please advise all of new eden to use this and only this to check for corp thieves.
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Tach Narrows
Eden Security Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.31 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin "Lana Torrin is not listed in the esi-4 public criminal database."
Yep, working great. Please advise all of new eden to use this and only this to check for corp thieves.
You are also listed :P
I'm working on finishing the database structure, as I've said, this is just a concept. :P |

Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tach Narrows
Originally by: Lana Torrin "Lana Torrin is not listed in the esi-4 public criminal database."
Yep, working great. Please advise all of new eden to use this and only this to check for corp thieves.
You are also listed :P
I'm working on finishing the database structure, as I've said, this is just a concept. :P
Damn it.. In that case, it sucks and no one should use it.. |

Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Spank on 31/05/2010 08:21:48 I think it would help if you could define what a criminal is and how this is a bad thing.
Just because someone commits criminal acts in New Eden does not automatically flag them as ineligible to join a corporation.
There is already an extensive list of scammers. What is the point of listing those that have ever dared to GCC, flip off Concord or perform any other non angelic action? There are plenty of activities that mark you as a criminal which are frankly timid in nature.
As it stands this serves only to hold the hands of those people who don't believe in Eve being a sandbox, wishing for complete safety from the IRL psychos, as wankesempathetica would say. ~_~
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Tach Narrows
Eden Security Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 31/05/2010 08:21:48 I think it would help if you could define what a criminal is and how this is a bad thing.
Just because someone commits criminal acts in New Eden does not automatically flag them as ineligible to join a corporation.
There is already an extensive list of scammers. What is the point of listing those that have ever dared to GCC, flip off Concord or perform any other non angelic action? There are plenty of activities that mark you as a criminal which are frankly timid in nature.
As it stands this serves only to hold the hands of those people who don't believe in Eve being a sandbox, wishing for complete safety from the IRL psychos, as wankesempathetica would say.
As I've pointed out in the motivation & goals page of esi-4, this list is designed to document those who manage through deceitful means acquire various goods from other pilots or corporations. Mostly those include contract frauds, infiltrations, breaches of trust. esi-4's database is here to provide a check on a character whether it has a criminal background. It will just list the offense, evidence, known alts and partners in crime. The severity of someone's offense and whether the user of the database wishes to "do business" with this pilot afterwards, is solely upon the end user.
The idea is when you want to do a contract, accept a new corp member. Or basically any new encounter. A simple check is better than billions of ISK lost later. It doesn't happen often, but when it happens it's not pleasant.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.05.31 08:57:00 -
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I see. In that case you are duplicating an existing service. Best of luck. ~_~
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SCAMwatch Advocat
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Posted - 2010.05.31 09:15:00 -
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SCAMMERS WILL GET WHATS COMING TO THEM!
I endorse this product and/or service. Good luck.
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.05.31 10:22:00 -
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The idea has merit, but...
*Clickety*
"New trial account created"
>.>
<.<
Oh, and as previously mentioned, there are many, many people who will never find out about this, or purposefully ignore it, even.
But hey, those people are probably in violation of IEEE best practices anyway. - Paknac Queltel
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Tach Narrows
Eden Security Intelligence
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Posted - 2010.05.31 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank I see. In that case you are duplicating an existing service. Best of luck.
Existing service? I wouldn't want to double something if it already exists? Can you provide a link or something?
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