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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 20:28:43
Written by Heideran VII, the Amarr Emperor himself, Pax Amarria is the most remarkable book
published in the last century. In it the Emperor writes about his hopes and dreams for peace
throughout the galaxy; a vision that has propelled him into becoming the champion of improved
international relations. His relentless strive for these goals has brought unparalleled harmony in
the relationship between the empires; his constant search for peaceful solutions to any problem
having many times becalmed brewing storms of hostilities on the horizon. His determination and
powers of persuasion have compelled his own people and others to sacrifice many things they
thought sacred to ensure that tranquillity will prevail, now and forever.
I had to quote this book written by the Emperor himself. This book is obviously about peace and how to handle problems with peace and yet PIE is doing the complete opposite of the EmperorÆs own words. I canÆt take the threats I see from PIE every so often. ItÆs like these guys are on some power trip in the EmperorÆs name. So I quote this book for a answer from the leaders of PIE being I have never seen anyone so for peace and keeping slaves as well killing people for words. Well unless youÆre all raving idiots or maybe it's because PIE didn't read this book?
-Famine AligherÆri
P.S
Your Emperor misspelled ôTranquilityö.
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 20:28:43
Written by Heideran VII, the Amarr Emperor himself, Pax Amarria is the most remarkable book
published in the last century. In it the Emperor writes about his hopes and dreams for peace
throughout the galaxy; a vision that has propelled him into becoming the champion of improved
international relations. His relentless strive for these goals has brought unparalleled harmony in
the relationship between the empires; his constant search for peaceful solutions to any problem
having many times becalmed brewing storms of hostilities on the horizon. His determination and
powers of persuasion have compelled his own people and others to sacrifice many things they
thought sacred to ensure that tranquillity will prevail, now and forever.
I had to quote this book written by the Emperor himself. This book is obviously about peace and how to handle problems with peace and yet PIE is doing the complete opposite of the EmperorÆs own words. I canÆt take the threats I see from PIE every so often. ItÆs like these guys are on some power trip in the EmperorÆs name. So I quote this book for a answer from the leaders of PIE being I have never seen anyone so for peace and keeping slaves as well killing people for words. Well unless youÆre all raving idiots or maybe it's because PIE didn't read this book?
-Famine AligherÆri
P.S
Your Emperor misspelled ôTranquilityö.
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:34:00 -
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Sorry, but couple points:
1) the writeup is someone else's description of the book. not the text of the book itself.
2) one must know the enemy, as much for war as for peace! Heideran WAS the emperor. His word WAS law. He is gone, and now the new emperor's word, whatsoever he may say, is law and the word of God. Such is an oversimplification of the oversimple amarr mind...  
3) the holders never liked him anyway. no, seriously. as much as an amarr can not like their emperor, i'm pretty certain i read quite often of Heideran havnig to play quite a dangerous game of moderation to keep enrentched power structures happy and un-alarmed at his changes. Might he have done a great deal more had he the power or the time? Possibly. But it doesn't matter. For the Emperor wields absolute power... as long as all the noble houses agree that he does. As it has been with all emperors since the beginning of empires...
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:34:00 -
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Sorry, but couple points:
1) the writeup is someone else's description of the book. not the text of the book itself.
2) one must know the enemy, as much for war as for peace! Heideran WAS the emperor. His word WAS law. He is gone, and now the new emperor's word, whatsoever he may say, is law and the word of God. Such is an oversimplification of the oversimple amarr mind...
3) the holders never liked him anyway. no, seriously. as much as an amarr can not like their emperor, i'm pretty certain i read quite often of Heideran havnig to play quite a dangerous game of moderation to keep enrentched power structures happy and un-alarmed at his changes. Might he have done a great deal more had he the power or the time? Possibly. But it doesn't matter. For the Emperor wields absolute power... as long as all the noble houses agree that he does. As it has been with all emperors since the beginning of empires...
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:49:00 -
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Ahh how I canÆt keep up with the time. Either way the book was written on peace and so forth. I see PIE stressing the same facet for peace with everyone yet they donÆt follow through. I think you know that as well everyone else. You canÆt fight fire with fire. Enemy wise, I have none so I hence why I donÆt bother to know mine? IÆm not like the rest of the fools out there who claim to fight in a war and yet endeavor for peace. That really doesnÆt make any sense. Kind of like the words ôFreedom Fighterö. As for the book itself, it was of a person in power and was written to mean something that apparently the Amarr forgot. The misspelling of the word shows ignorance and lack of intelligence on the Amarr element to speak a uncomplicated language. PIE still needs to answer none the less. I have yet to see a true priest fight so why would someone about peace act as war?
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:49:00 -
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Ahh how I canÆt keep up with the time. Either way the book was written on peace and so forth. I see PIE stressing the same facet for peace with everyone yet they donÆt follow through. I think you know that as well everyone else. You canÆt fight fire with fire. Enemy wise, I have none so I hence why I donÆt bother to know mine? IÆm not like the rest of the fools out there who claim to fight in a war and yet endeavor for peace. That really doesnÆt make any sense. Kind of like the words ôFreedom Fighterö. As for the book itself, it was of a person in power and was written to mean something that apparently the Amarr forgot. The misspelling of the word shows ignorance and lack of intelligence on the Amarr element to speak a uncomplicated language. PIE still needs to answer none the less. I have yet to see a true priest fight so why would someone about peace act as war?
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tharrn on 09/12/2004 21:14:43
1. Heideran is dead for over a year now. Doriam Kor-Azor is Emperor these days.
2. PIE has taken the role of *Defenders* of the Empire. It is not our fault that terrorists from the so called 'republic' are raiding peacefull traders.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tharrn on 09/12/2004 21:14:43
1. Heideran is dead for over a year now. Doriam Kor-Azor is Emperor these days.
2. PIE has taken the role of *Defenders* of the Empire. It is not our fault that terrorists from the so called 'republic' are raiding peacefull traders.
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: cold lazarus on 09/12/2004 21:23:24
PIE welcome peace. just look at the misaba regions that were once plagued my nefarious pirates now living in harmony with the local population. We are not a warmongering corp we uphold the Emperors word we fight piracy within the empire. we love peace.
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: cold lazarus on 09/12/2004 21:23:24
PIE welcome peace. just look at the misaba regions that were once plagued my nefarious pirates now living in harmony with the local population. We are not a warmongering corp we uphold the Emperors word we fight piracy within the empire. we love peace.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:17:00 -
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Peace through the subjugation of a race bent on destruction. We are protecting Amarrians and Amarrian interests from the savages who seek to destroy them. The Matari are not capable of living a life free of barbaric violence, so we enlighten them.
If you haven't seen one of our priests in combat perhaps you should join Ushra'khan.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:17:00 -
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Peace through the subjugation of a race bent on destruction. We are protecting Amarrians and Amarrian interests from the savages who seek to destroy them. The Matari are not capable of living a life free of barbaric violence, so we enlighten them.
If you haven't seen one of our priests in combat perhaps you should join Ushra'khan.
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
P.S
Your Emperor misspelled ôTranquilityö.
yeah i'm sure he wrote the cover text himself!
oh and i remember a great admiral saying: "peace through superior firepower!"
actually i think that's the peace the terrorists are asking for and we will not tire responding to their acts of aggression!
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
P.S
Your Emperor misspelled ôTranquilityö.
yeah i'm sure he wrote the cover text himself!
oh and i remember a great admiral saying: "peace through superior firepower!"
actually i think that's the peace the terrorists are asking for and we will not tire responding to their acts of aggression!
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 22:24:18
Just our of inquisitiveness, how many of you essentially have sequentially made a change on terrorism? You keep labeling everyone as a terrorist based on race and not actions. Yes we have terrorism here in the republic but so do you and your ôBlood Raidersö who do the same. Yet you canÆt seem to control them enough to even SPEAK of enlightening the republic. IÆm here helping a Amarr corporation kill the ôBlood Raidersö as we speak and yet I still have to look over my shoulder from some worthless PIE follower considering me a ôTerroristö or worse an ôSlaveö. Anyways ill leave it at that and wont speak of PIE again. Seems you all have no direction anyways. Starting to become more and more laughable.
-Famine AligherÆri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 22:24:18
Just our of inquisitiveness, how many of you essentially have sequentially made a change on terrorism? You keep labeling everyone as a terrorist based on race and not actions. Yes we have terrorism here in the republic but so do you and your ôBlood Raidersö who do the same. Yet you canÆt seem to control them enough to even SPEAK of enlightening the republic. IÆm here helping a Amarr corporation kill the ôBlood Raidersö as we speak and yet I still have to look over my shoulder from some worthless PIE follower considering me a ôTerroristö or worse an ôSlaveö. Anyways ill leave it at that and wont speak of PIE again. Seems you all have no direction anyways. Starting to become more and more laughable.
-Famine AligherÆri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:23:00 -
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Thanks for making no sense.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:23:00 -
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Thanks for making no sense.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/12/2004 22:36:38
You Minnies should take heed of our late Emperor's words. They prove that we want peace. We have made the first move. You should make the next move and lay down your arms. If you surrender, you have nothing to fear from us. We only fight to defend our birthright. But we shall defend it to the end.
And to those who doubt our love of peace - were PIE pilots not amongst those who escorted Doriam II's envoy to the peace conference with the Sansha?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/12/2004 22:36:38
You Minnies should take heed of our late Emperor's words. They prove that we want peace. We have made the first move. You should make the next move and lay down your arms. If you surrender, you have nothing to fear from us. We only fight to defend our birthright. But we shall defend it to the end.
And to those who doubt our love of peace - were PIE pilots not amongst those who escorted Doriam II's envoy to the peace conference with the Sansha?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:35:00 -
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Listen, son, we have probably killed more Blood Raiders and Sanshas than your lousy homeworld has inhabitants. They just keep coming... and not only here but also in the 'republic'. You'd better scuttle back to your rathole to protect your own kin.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:35:00 -
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Listen, son, we have probably killed more Blood Raiders and Sanshas than your lousy homeworld has inhabitants. They just keep coming... and not only here but also in the 'republic'. You'd better scuttle back to your rathole to protect your own kin.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
But you don't? You instead pick fights...
We pick fights, do we?
So how is it that Minmatar terrorist organisations and their supporters are typically the ones who declare war on us, and not vice versa?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
But you don't? You instead pick fights...
We pick fights, do we?
So how is it that Minmatar terrorist organisations and their supporters are typically the ones who declare war on us, and not vice versa?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:38:00 -
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Hrm... babbling fool.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:38:00 -
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Hrm... babbling fool.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:45:00 -
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And let's not forget that not only did Heideran VII write a book about his desire for peace, his actions won him the Aidonis Award too.
There can bo no doubt that both Heideran VII and his successor, Doriam II, were/are both men of peace.
Just as all good Amarrians are.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:45:00 -
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And let's not forget that not only did Heideran VII write a book about his desire for peace, his actions won him the Aidonis Award too.
There can bo no doubt that both Heideran VII and his successor, Doriam II, were/are both men of peace.
Just as all good Amarrians are.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 22:24:18
You keep labeling everyone as a terrorist based on race and not actions.
Just to clarify things, we do not label people as terrorists purely on the basis of race. Any suggestion that we do such a thing is preposterous.
I deal with lot of Matari who are perfectly respectable members of Amarrian society, and I do not consider them terrorists. My adopted employees are one example, and brave pilots such as Frosty and Pulgor are another.
Conversely, many non-Matari have been labelled as terrorists not because of their race, but becasuse of their heinous crimes.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 22:24:18
You keep labeling everyone as a terrorist based on race and not actions.
Just to clarify things, we do not label people as terrorists purely on the basis of race. Any suggestion that we do such a thing is preposterous.
I deal with lot of Matari who are perfectly respectable members of Amarrian society, and I do not consider them terrorists. My adopted employees are one example, and brave pilots such as Frosty and Pulgor are another.
Conversely, many non-Matari have been labelled as terrorists not because of their race, but becasuse of their heinous crimes.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 23:00:20
Son? As I recall it is your empire that canÆt spell let alone have a right to talk down to peopleà All you guys do is talk down to people and kill kill kill. You donÆt comprehend or GRASP the notion of how to defeat the simplest of affairs. You sit here in your conceded ships and kill everyone who regards a terrorist. Since when does fire kill fire? IÆm here the enlighten you all on maybe doing something different because what youÆre doing now just isnÆt working ôThey just keep coming backö. You donÆt want peace and you donÆt want to give up labeling people slaves. You want to sit there in your protection and talk talk talkà Just stop with all the*****iness of your corporation because itÆs just not working. Stop threatening people and labeling them when you lack the intelligence to understand anyone but yourselves. Just stop please stop the insanity of your ignorance on terrorism.
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Just to clarify things, we do not label people as terrorists purely on the basis of race. Any suggestion that we do such a thing is preposterous.
But you do...Not to mention talk down to us.
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Hrm... babbling fool.
There is a hidden meaning somewhere.
-Famine AligherÆri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 23:00:20
Son? As I recall it is your empire that canÆt spell let alone have a right to talk down to peopleà All you guys do is talk down to people and kill kill kill. You donÆt comprehend or GRASP the notion of how to defeat the simplest of affairs. You sit here in your conceded ships and kill everyone who regards a terrorist. Since when does fire kill fire? IÆm here the enlighten you all on maybe doing something different because what youÆre doing now just isnÆt working ôThey just keep coming backö. You donÆt want peace and you donÆt want to give up labeling people slaves. You want to sit there in your protection and talk talk talkà Just stop with all the*****iness of your corporation because itÆs just not working. Stop threatening people and labeling them when you lack the intelligence to understand anyone but yourselves. Just stop please stop the insanity of your ignorance on terrorism.
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Just to clarify things, we do not label people as terrorists purely on the basis of race. Any suggestion that we do such a thing is preposterous.
But you do...Not to mention talk down to us.
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Hrm... babbling fool.
There is a hidden meaning somewhere.
-Famine AligherÆri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/12/2004 23:08:12
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 23:00:20
Son? As I recall it is your empire that canÆt spell -
That sounds like a racist comment to me.
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Anyways ill leave it at that and wont speak of PIE again.
Perhaps you should take your own advice.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.09 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/12/2004 23:08:12
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 23:00:20
Son? As I recall it is your empire that canÆt spell -
That sounds like a racist comment to me.
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Anyways ill leave it at that and wont speak of PIE again.
Perhaps you should take your own advice.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 23:04:00 -
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Ah, a severe case for the blue pills. This is my final post in this matter as it simply doesn't make sense to talk to you.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 23:04:00 -
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Ah, a severe case for the blue pills. This is my final post in this matter as it simply doesn't make sense to talk to you.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 23:20:02
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 23:19:15 for Graelyn
Good then let it be done with. PIE means nothing and can do nothing but advance terrorism even more. Next time I hear any of you speak like you can do anything, then it will be known to me that you can't. You don't know the meaning of the word peace so you don't have any meaning to me. You want to sit there and talk down to people like that will fix your problems, then go for it. I just wanted to know more about you all. The ramblings helped me get more honest answers out of you being we are more honest when we are angry. Seems you have no control or a professional reply but instead post of moronic replies along with mine. I hope in time you all will figure out what is over your head. Sorry to bother you, well not really.
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.09 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 23:20:02
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 23:19:15 for Graelyn
Good then let it be done with. PIE means nothing and can do nothing but advance terrorism even more. Next time I hear any of you speak like you can do anything, then it will be known to me that you can't. You don't know the meaning of the word peace so you don't have any meaning to me. You want to sit there and talk down to people like that will fix your problems, then go for it. I just wanted to know more about you all. The ramblings helped me get more honest answers out of you being we are more honest when we are angry. Seems you have no control or a professional reply but instead post of moronic replies along with mine. I hope in time you all will figure out what is over your head. Sorry to bother you, well not really.
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 23:13:00 -
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Answer you actually seem to have expected to get:
"Really? Wow, you're right! War is bad!"
Answer you've recieved:
"**** off and die. Most graduates of even your backwards education system know better than to ask questions as stupid as that."
What have we learned here today?
Minister - Public Affairs
AEGIS MILITIA
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.12.09 23:13:00 -
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Answer you actually seem to have expected to get:
"Really? Wow, you're right! War is bad!"
Answer you've recieved:
"**** off and die. Most graduates of even your backwards education system know better than to ask questions as stupid as that."
What have we learned here today?
Minister - Public Affairs
AEGIS MILITIA
ATCR Forums |
Sarkos
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
And let's not forget that not only did Heideran VII write a book about his desire for peace, his actions won him the Aidonis Award too.
There can bo no doubt that both Heideran VII and his successor, Doriam II, were/are both men of peace.
Just as all good Amarrians are.
I respected Emperor Heideran VII greatly as a man of reform and one of liberal views. He acknowledged the Minmatar Republic, something PIE has trouble doing from time to time, and worked to further open releationships with our Republic.
It saddened me to hear of his death, and after arangements had been made, was honored to attend his funeral ceremony at Amarr Prime to pay my and Oracles respects to him.
I respect Emperor Doriam II and pray he does not fall to the same mysterious illness that claimed the life of his predecesor.
However respect or not the situation of our people living in forced bondage has brought about our conflict. Release the slaves and stop the conflict. All of you Amarr are men of peace, providong you can continue to build your empire on the backs of my people.
You call us terroriasts, we call ourselves freedom fighters. You call us criminals, we call ourselves patriots. There is only one way to end this conflict, end slavery and send our bretheran home.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
And let's not forget that not only did Heideran VII write a book about his desire for peace, his actions won him the Aidonis Award too.
There can bo no doubt that both Heideran VII and his successor, Doriam II, were/are both men of peace.
Just as all good Amarrians are.
I respected Emperor Heideran VII greatly as a man of reform and one of liberal views. He acknowledged the Minmatar Republic, something PIE has trouble doing from time to time, and worked to further open releationships with our Republic.
It saddened me to hear of his death, and after arangements had been made, was honored to attend his funeral ceremony at Amarr Prime to pay my and Oracles respects to him.
I respect Emperor Doriam II and pray he does not fall to the same mysterious illness that claimed the life of his predecesor.
However respect or not the situation of our people living in forced bondage has brought about our conflict. Release the slaves and stop the conflict. All of you Amarr are men of peace, providong you can continue to build your empire on the backs of my people.
You call us terroriasts, we call ourselves freedom fighters. You call us criminals, we call ourselves patriots. There is only one way to end this conflict, end slavery and send our bretheran home.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:23:00 -
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Yep, to end war and to lay arms down. PIE doesn't seem to get it yet, they rather act like they're all big instead.
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:23:00 -
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Yep, to end war and to lay arms down. PIE doesn't seem to get it yet, they rather act like they're all big instead.
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:27:00 -
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We are only servants of Amarr. All we do is for the glory of the one true God. Amarrians are the chosen ones. It is a great burden to bear and we are constantly attacked by our lessors.
We do not think of ourselves as "big" Minmatar we are but humble servants to a God greater than us all.
Archbishop
VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS
PIE INFORMATION CENTER |
Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.12.10 04:27:00 -
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We are only servants of Amarr. All we do is for the glory of the one true God. Amarrians are the chosen ones. It is a great burden to bear and we are constantly attacked by our lessors.
We do not think of ourselves as "big" Minmatar we are but humble servants to a God greater than us all.
Archbishop
VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS
PIE INFORMATION CENTER |
Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.12.10 06:10:00 -
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Anyways ill leave it at that and wont speak of PIE again.
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Let it be done with.......Sorry to bother you all, well not really.
This knuckledragging mouthbreather is still yammering? Despite his own assertions to the contrary? Typical!
I know not what fedo waste container you've been living under for the past 60 years, but take a hint from your fellow Matar. Your opinion is naive, uneducated, unsupported, and annoying.
Now then, give me a sharp Matari mind to combat on the field. Someone I can respect.....
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Posted - 2004.12.10 06:10:00 -
[48]
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Anyways ill leave it at that and wont speak of PIE again.
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Let it be done with.......Sorry to bother you all, well not really.
This knuckledragging mouthbreather is still yammering? Despite his own assertions to the contrary? Typical!
I know not what fedo waste container you've been living under for the past 60 years, but take a hint from your fellow Matar. Your opinion is naive, uneducated, unsupported, and annoying.
Now then, give me a sharp Matari mind to combat on the field. Someone I can respect.....
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Fasute Sethnakte
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Posted - 2004.12.10 09:22:00 -
[49]
The transmission fizzles and *****les as a bearly dicernible figure molds onto the screen. From the amount of static and drisruption, it seems the source of the message is from a far distance away.
*chuckle*
Interpretation is always the trouble, isn't it?
Sometimes God influences the Emperor to take action, sometimes the Emperor infulences his subjects to take action, and sometimes God influences His subjects to take action.
But a man who takes actions without divine influence?
That... is what you should be afraid of...
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Fasute Sethnakte
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Posted - 2004.12.10 09:22:00 -
[50]
The transmission fizzles and *****les as a bearly dicernible figure molds onto the screen. From the amount of static and drisruption, it seems the source of the message is from a far distance away.
*chuckle*
Interpretation is always the trouble, isn't it?
Sometimes God influences the Emperor to take action, sometimes the Emperor infulences his subjects to take action, and sometimes God influences His subjects to take action.
But a man who takes actions without divine influence?
That... is what you should be afraid of...
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2004.12.10 11:58:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 22:24:18
Just our of inquisitiveness, how many of you essentially have sequentially made a change on terrorism? You keep labeling everyone as a terrorist based on race and not actions. Yes we have terrorism here in the republic but so do you and your ôBlood Raidersö who do the same. Yet you canÆt seem to control them enough to even SPEAK of enlightening the republic. IÆm here helping a Amarr corporation kill the ôBlood Raidersö as we speak and yet I still have to look over my shoulder from some worthless PIE follower considering me a ôTerroristö or worse an ôSlaveö. Anyways ill leave it at that and wont speak of PIE again. Seems you all have no direction anyways. Starting to become more and more laughable.
-Famine AligherÆri
take a breath! calm down! get yourself a miner and get going!
there is enough veldspar out there that keeps me from looting bs cans to even give a sense to you!
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Posted - 2004.12.10 11:58:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 09/12/2004 22:24:18
Just our of inquisitiveness, how many of you essentially have sequentially made a change on terrorism? You keep labeling everyone as a terrorist based on race and not actions. Yes we have terrorism here in the republic but so do you and your ôBlood Raidersö who do the same. Yet you canÆt seem to control them enough to even SPEAK of enlightening the republic. IÆm here helping a Amarr corporation kill the ôBlood Raidersö as we speak and yet I still have to look over my shoulder from some worthless PIE follower considering me a ôTerroristö or worse an ôSlaveö. Anyways ill leave it at that and wont speak of PIE again. Seems you all have no direction anyways. Starting to become more and more laughable.
-Famine AligherÆri
take a breath! calm down! get yourself a miner and get going!
there is enough veldspar out there that keeps me from looting bs cans to even give a sense to you!
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Posted - 2004.12.10 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sarkos
I respected Emperor Heideran VII greatly as a man of reform and one of liberal views. He acknowledged the Minmatar Republic, something PIE has trouble doing from time to time, and worked to further open releationships with our Republic.
Just a little niggle, Heideran never acknowledged your republic.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.12.10 12:21:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Sarkos
I respected Emperor Heideran VII greatly as a man of reform and one of liberal views. He acknowledged the Minmatar Republic, something PIE has trouble doing from time to time, and worked to further open releationships with our Republic.
Just a little niggle, Heideran never acknowledged your republic.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Posted - 2004.12.10 14:56:00 -
[55]
Originally by: cold lazarus
Edited by: cold lazarus on 09/12/2004 21:23:24
PIE welcome peace. just look at the misaba regions that were once plagued my nefarious pirates now living in harmony with the local population. We are not a warmongering corp we uphold the Emperors word we fight piracy within the empire. we love peace.
Don't forget the Ministry of Amarr Secret Services' official declaration of war against the pirates of the Providence region.
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"Bish, you don't have a future."
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Posted - 2004.12.10 14:56:00 -
[56]
Originally by: cold lazarus
Edited by: cold lazarus on 09/12/2004 21:23:24
PIE welcome peace. just look at the misaba regions that were once plagued my nefarious pirates now living in harmony with the local population. We are not a warmongering corp we uphold the Emperors word we fight piracy within the empire. we love peace.
Don't forget the Ministry of Amarr Secret Services' official declaration of war against the pirates of the Providence region.
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"...which will become my sword in the very near future."
"Bish, you don't have a future."
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.12.10 14:59:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Sarkos
I respected Emperor Heideran VII greatly as a man of reform and one of liberal views. He acknowledged the Minmatar Republic, something PIE has trouble doing from time to time, and worked to further open releationships with our Republic.
Just a little niggle, Heideran never acknowledged your republic.
ðiscorporation is speaking the truth. Neither Heideran nor Doriam acknowledged the Minmatar Republic. Doriam thought about recognizing the Minmatar Republic when he was an Heir. But thinking about something is not the same as doing something.
The space you Minmatar call your own is amarrian territory.
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Posted - 2004.12.10 14:59:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Sarkos
I respected Emperor Heideran VII greatly as a man of reform and one of liberal views. He acknowledged the Minmatar Republic, something PIE has trouble doing from time to time, and worked to further open releationships with our Republic.
Just a little niggle, Heideran never acknowledged your republic.
ðiscorporation is speaking the truth. Neither Heideran nor Doriam acknowledged the Minmatar Republic. Doriam thought about recognizing the Minmatar Republic when he was an Heir. But thinking about something is not the same as doing something.
The space you Minmatar call your own is amarrian territory.
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Posted - 2004.12.10 15:17:00 -
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Yes MASS, like PIE, patrolled these regions and inflicted losses on the pirates. That is not forgotten.
However it was only when the CVA and friends move to the area permanently that that the pirates realised that they either had to leave or accept Amarrian law which most have done now.
We have worked with MASS against pirates before and I am sure we will again at some stage in the future, after all it is in all our interests to see trade passing freely through the area.
Truely it warms my heart to see the massive difference in the fortunes of this formerly derelict, pirate ridden, under-populated area fo empire.
The area is now buzzing with pilots out to earn their fortune on this new frontier. It is not 100% safe. Pirates do still appear, though they are mostly harrassed so much that they eventually move on.
Truely the Amarr Empire has been strengthened by these developments. New trade and therefore new tax revenue has poured into imperial coffers.
This effort has never been CVA alone - many other corporations - many unaligned with our struggles against the terrorists have put their own time into securing this region for the Amarr Empire.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.12.10 15:17:00 -
[60]
Yes MASS, like PIE, patrolled these regions and inflicted losses on the pirates. That is not forgotten.
However it was only when the CVA and friends move to the area permanently that that the pirates realised that they either had to leave or accept Amarrian law which most have done now.
We have worked with MASS against pirates before and I am sure we will again at some stage in the future, after all it is in all our interests to see trade passing freely through the area.
Truely it warms my heart to see the massive difference in the fortunes of this formerly derelict, pirate ridden, under-populated area fo empire.
The area is now buzzing with pilots out to earn their fortune on this new frontier. It is not 100% safe. Pirates do still appear, though they are mostly harrassed so much that they eventually move on.
Truely the Amarr Empire has been strengthened by these developments. New trade and therefore new tax revenue has poured into imperial coffers.
This effort has never been CVA alone - many other corporations - many unaligned with our struggles against the terrorists have put their own time into securing this region for the Amarr Empire.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2004.12.10 21:19:00 -
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the only good thing you can say about PIE is that they do happen to kill pirates. True they kill loyal minmatar, but then they also kill pirate scum that should be shot anyway.
PIE isn't the problem but merely a convenient target to act out against the oppressive nature of the defunct Amarian empire. I lament each death of a valuable citizen of the minmatar and rejoice in each pirate scum hiding behind the ideals of the cause to forward his own murderous thievery.
I am not against all piracy either, just hiding behind a false banner and sullying the name of minmatar freedom.
"You can go kill people wherever you want if you take the consequences like a man (or a woman)."
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Posted - 2004.12.10 21:19:00 -
[62]
the only good thing you can say about PIE is that they do happen to kill pirates. True they kill loyal minmatar, but then they also kill pirate scum that should be shot anyway.
PIE isn't the problem but merely a convenient target to act out against the oppressive nature of the defunct Amarian empire. I lament each death of a valuable citizen of the minmatar and rejoice in each pirate scum hiding behind the ideals of the cause to forward his own murderous thievery.
I am not against all piracy either, just hiding behind a false banner and sullying the name of minmatar freedom.
"You can go kill people wherever you want if you take the consequences like a man (or a woman)."
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.12.10 23:48:00 -
[63]
Your honesty is disturbingly refreshing.
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.12.10 23:48:00 -
[64]
Your honesty is disturbingly refreshing.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.12 18:19:00 -
[65]
Actually we dont even kill loyal minmatar.
The Holy Amarr Empire and the unnoficial Minmatar republic are at peace. Action against the Amarr empire by Minmatar is NOT sanctioned by the minmatar republic. Therefor if a minnie is in an organisation dedicated to attacking Amarr, they are disloyal at best to their own government.
PIE only attacks those who attack Amarr. If you take out Amarran shipping, if you proclaim that you actively raid Amarran Convoys, if your objective is to hurt the Amarr empire... then PIE has buisness with you.
If you do not raid convoys, if you do not actively support and work for terrorist organisations, you are perfectly safe from PIE inc.
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Posted - 2004.12.12 18:19:00 -
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Actually we dont even kill loyal minmatar.
The Holy Amarr Empire and the unnoficial Minmatar republic are at peace. Action against the Amarr empire by Minmatar is NOT sanctioned by the minmatar republic. Therefor if a minnie is in an organisation dedicated to attacking Amarr, they are disloyal at best to their own government.
PIE only attacks those who attack Amarr. If you take out Amarran shipping, if you proclaim that you actively raid Amarran Convoys, if your objective is to hurt the Amarr empire... then PIE has buisness with you.
If you do not raid convoys, if you do not actively support and work for terrorist organisations, you are perfectly safe from PIE inc.
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:15:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
I lament each death of a valuable citizen of the minmatar
Valuable citizen of Minmatar? Brother, you speak like an Amarrian. What makes a person valuable? Perhaps your heart has been warped by the Amarrian propoganda. Do as my people do, heed it not, it is empty words. And you defend PIE? Are you even aware of what that den of slaver scum has done?
So Archbishop, you recognise the Minmatar Republic now? It ires my very blood seeing you scum come on here and try to cow my people into submission. Who are you to order any of my people?
Our very republic was brought into existence because of fighting your kind. And we continue to fight your kind.
For we do not forget our people. No true Matari does.
So, lapdogs of your Emporer and false God, take your words elsewhere, they mean nothing to me and my people. Continue pining for your Emporers attention.
Honour and slavery can not go hand in hand. There is no honour in enslaving anyone.
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:15:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
I lament each death of a valuable citizen of the minmatar
Valuable citizen of Minmatar? Brother, you speak like an Amarrian. What makes a person valuable? Perhaps your heart has been warped by the Amarrian propoganda. Do as my people do, heed it not, it is empty words. And you defend PIE? Are you even aware of what that den of slaver scum has done?
So Archbishop, you recognise the Minmatar Republic now? It ires my very blood seeing you scum come on here and try to cow my people into submission. Who are you to order any of my people?
Our very republic was brought into existence because of fighting your kind. And we continue to fight your kind.
For we do not forget our people. No true Matari does.
So, lapdogs of your Emporer and false God, take your words elsewhere, they mean nothing to me and my people. Continue pining for your Emporers attention.
Honour and slavery can not go hand in hand. There is no honour in enslaving anyone.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.13 19:51:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
I lament each death of a valuable citizen of the minmatar
Valuable citizen of Minmatar? Brother, you speak like an Amarrian. What makes a person valuable? Perhaps your heart has been warped by the Amarrian propoganda. Do as my people do, heed it not, it is empty words. And you defend PIE? Are you even aware of what that den of slaver scum has done?
So Archbishop, you recognise the Minmatar Republic now? It ires my very blood seeing you scum come on here and try to cow my people into submission. Who are you to order any of my people?
Our very republic was brought into existence because of fighting your kind. And we continue to fight your kind.
For we do not forget our people. No true Matari does.
So, lapdogs of your Emporer and false God, take your words elsewhere, they mean nothing to me and my people. Continue pining for your Emporers attention.
Honour and slavery can not go hand in hand. There is no honour in enslaving anyone.
Pffft, don't even talk to me about propaganda. You contradict yourself in two paragraphs. The first you say that "Vauled Citizen" is an Amarrian phrase and then to infer that would mean that a Minmatar shouldn't have to do anything to prove their citizenship. Then in the next paragraph you go on about "True Matari" which is really just Freedomese for "Those that do what I tell them to." Yeah, good try. Go get some lessons from Hardin.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.13 19:51:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
I lament each death of a valuable citizen of the minmatar
Valuable citizen of Minmatar? Brother, you speak like an Amarrian. What makes a person valuable? Perhaps your heart has been warped by the Amarrian propoganda. Do as my people do, heed it not, it is empty words. And you defend PIE? Are you even aware of what that den of slaver scum has done?
So Archbishop, you recognise the Minmatar Republic now? It ires my very blood seeing you scum come on here and try to cow my people into submission. Who are you to order any of my people?
Our very republic was brought into existence because of fighting your kind. And we continue to fight your kind.
For we do not forget our people. No true Matari does.
So, lapdogs of your Emporer and false God, take your words elsewhere, they mean nothing to me and my people. Continue pining for your Emporers attention.
Honour and slavery can not go hand in hand. There is no honour in enslaving anyone.
Pffft, don't even talk to me about propaganda. You contradict yourself in two paragraphs. The first you say that "Vauled Citizen" is an Amarrian phrase and then to infer that would mean that a Minmatar shouldn't have to do anything to prove their citizenship. Then in the next paragraph you go on about "True Matari" which is really just Freedomese for "Those that do what I tell them to." Yeah, good try. Go get some lessons from Hardin.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.13 20:05:00 -
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No my Ammatar. Our race is one, we care for our people. Which is what i was taught was the true Matari spirit by my elders when i was growing up.
And i do not bid anyone to do what i tell them. Free Matari are just that. That was just my opnion, but im glad my words carry so much weight with one as corrupted as you Ammatar.
Now go back to licking Amarrian boots while your people remain enslaved to thier race.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.13 20:05:00 -
[72]
No my Ammatar. Our race is one, we care for our people. Which is what i was taught was the true Matari spirit by my elders when i was growing up.
And i do not bid anyone to do what i tell them. Free Matari are just that. That was just my opnion, but im glad my words carry so much weight with one as corrupted as you Ammatar.
Now go back to licking Amarrian boots while your people remain enslaved to thier race.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.13 20:15:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
No my Ammatar. Our race is one, we care for our people. Which is what i was taught was the true Matari spirit by my elders when i was growing up.
And i do not bid anyone to do what i tell them. Free Matari are just that. That was just my opnion, but im glad my words carry so much weight with one as corrupted as you Ammatar.
Now go back to licking Amarrian boots while your people remain enslaved to thier race.
Yes well, many folks require your approval or the approval of your compatriots to do what they want to do because you'll shoot them otherwise. I may not officially serve the Ammatar State any more but atleast I don't have to worry about Amarrians/Ammatar's shooting me.
As for my "People remaining enslaved to their race." What the crap is that supposed to mean? That dosn't even make sense. Are you trying to make some sense?
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.13 20:15:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
No my Ammatar. Our race is one, we care for our people. Which is what i was taught was the true Matari spirit by my elders when i was growing up.
And i do not bid anyone to do what i tell them. Free Matari are just that. That was just my opnion, but im glad my words carry so much weight with one as corrupted as you Ammatar.
Now go back to licking Amarrian boots while your people remain enslaved to thier race.
Yes well, many folks require your approval or the approval of your compatriots to do what they want to do because you'll shoot them otherwise. I may not officially serve the Ammatar State any more but atleast I don't have to worry about Amarrians/Ammatar's shooting me.
As for my "People remaining enslaved to their race." What the crap is that supposed to mean? That dosn't even make sense. Are you trying to make some sense?
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.13 21:34:00 -
[75]
The Ammatar appears angry. The Ammatar can burn in his gods hell for all I care.
You sit here, enslaver of your own people, and preach to me? How much blood is on your hands Ammatar?
Matari who enslave Matari deserve worse than death. They are no better than you Ammatars.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.13 21:34:00 -
[76]
The Ammatar appears angry. The Ammatar can burn in his gods hell for all I care.
You sit here, enslaver of your own people, and preach to me? How much blood is on your hands Ammatar?
Matari who enslave Matari deserve worse than death. They are no better than you Ammatars.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2004.12.13 23:51:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 13/12/2004 23:56:02
Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 13/12/2004 23:54:24
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
I lament each death of a valuable citizen of the minmatar
Valuable citizen of Minmatar? Brother, you speak like an Amarrian. What makes a person valuable? Perhaps your heart has been warped by the Amarrian propoganda. Do as my people do, heed it not, it is empty words. And you defend PIE? Are you even aware of what that den of slaver scum has done?
Halt your diatribe right there Youngling. I have fought for my own freedom and the freedom of others since before you burst into space nestled with in your pod (Khaldorn Murino Republic Military School - 2004.06.17 14:18:00).
My words are truth.
For those who have comprehension you would have understood the underscoring ideology of my words. Pirates are not valuable Minmatar but counterproductive to our very existence. PIE kills these bastard Matari sons as any Minmatar would given half the chance. It is alright to dislike the despicable, no matter the race, and still support the freedom of all slaves.
My lament is founded from the loss of Minmatar not tainted by murder and thievery. The war is indiscriminant now.
Still I know for truth that PIE will not shoot down lawful Minmatar who do not evoke warfare upon them. It is Truth.
The Ushra'Khan are energetic, so be careful lest your honorable enthusiasm lead to dishonorable actions.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2004.12.13 23:51:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 13/12/2004 23:56:02
Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 13/12/2004 23:54:24
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
I lament each death of a valuable citizen of the minmatar
Valuable citizen of Minmatar? Brother, you speak like an Amarrian. What makes a person valuable? Perhaps your heart has been warped by the Amarrian propoganda. Do as my people do, heed it not, it is empty words. And you defend PIE? Are you even aware of what that den of slaver scum has done?
Halt your diatribe right there Youngling. I have fought for my own freedom and the freedom of others since before you burst into space nestled with in your pod (Khaldorn Murino Republic Military School - 2004.06.17 14:18:00).
My words are truth.
For those who have comprehension you would have understood the underscoring ideology of my words. Pirates are not valuable Minmatar but counterproductive to our very existence. PIE kills these bastard Matari sons as any Minmatar would given half the chance. It is alright to dislike the despicable, no matter the race, and still support the freedom of all slaves.
My lament is founded from the loss of Minmatar not tainted by murder and thievery. The war is indiscriminant now.
Still I know for truth that PIE will not shoot down lawful Minmatar who do not evoke warfare upon them. It is Truth.
The Ushra'Khan are energetic, so be careful lest your honorable enthusiasm lead to dishonorable actions.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.14 01:26:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
The Ammatar appears angry. The Ammatar can burn in his gods hell for all I care.
Not really. Just pointing out how horrible your propaganda skills are. Take some lessons from Hardin.
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
You sit here, enslaver of your own people, and preach to me? How much blood is on your hands Ammatar?
My conduct is not the one in question here. However I will gladly kill Matari rather then enslave them. Sounds good to me, infact, from now on whenever I get a slave as a mission reward I'm going to trash them. I'm also going to invent a logo for the slaughter of innocents like Corin's hand there. Maybe mine will be a foot or a leg or something. I'll call it "The Bloody Stump" and it can be a beacon to all who would rather kill savages because enlightening them is simply a waste of time it seems.
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Matari who enslave Matari deserve worse than death. They are no better than you Ammatars.
I completely agree with you. Then again that's just because the Ammatar's are your natural betters. I can't change evolution, neither can you.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.14 01:26:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
The Ammatar appears angry. The Ammatar can burn in his gods hell for all I care.
Not really. Just pointing out how horrible your propaganda skills are. Take some lessons from Hardin.
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
You sit here, enslaver of your own people, and preach to me? How much blood is on your hands Ammatar?
My conduct is not the one in question here. However I will gladly kill Matari rather then enslave them. Sounds good to me, infact, from now on whenever I get a slave as a mission reward I'm going to trash them. I'm also going to invent a logo for the slaughter of innocents like Corin's hand there. Maybe mine will be a foot or a leg or something. I'll call it "The Bloody Stump" and it can be a beacon to all who would rather kill savages because enlightening them is simply a waste of time it seems.
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Matari who enslave Matari deserve worse than death. They are no better than you Ammatars.
I completely agree with you. Then again that's just because the Ammatar's are your natural betters. I can't change evolution, neither can you.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2004.12.14 04:04:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Pulgor
I completely agree with you. Then again that's just because the Ammatar's are your natural betters. I can't change evolution, neither can you.
from what scientific text or documentation do you draw that conclusion? is your presumption of superiority based on any scientific data?
I don't even think the religious doctrine of your ilk supports the supposition that Ammatar are in any way genetically or spiritually superior to Minmatar. why isn't the base gene pool the same?
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2004.12.14 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
I completely agree with you. Then again that's just because the Ammatar's are your natural betters. I can't change evolution, neither can you.
from what scientific text or documentation do you draw that conclusion? is your presumption of superiority based on any scientific data?
I don't even think the religious doctrine of your ilk supports the supposition that Ammatar are in any way genetically or spiritually superior to Minmatar. why isn't the base gene pool the same?
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.14 08:32:00 -
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Doesn't matter. The Amarr 'THINK' they're better than us. Notice I say "Think" instead of showing facts on this being true. Now what gets me is how a race or empire can "Think" they're better and not fall under the 'Moron' classifications. Now to me, if I see someone with a ego, then I tend to think that person is a "Brainless idiot". Why? Well because people with ego's always fall. Having a ego blinds the mind and shows weakness. That is why the Amarr as well PIE are not feared. I wanted to point this out being I was debating on it with a friend of mine who was of the Amarr Empire. We both found it funny that they all seem to hold them selves higher than others yet see visions of some GOD on a daily basis. How is it we allow such crazy people think and act like this. Here I stand with insults from PIE in saying "Someone took to many blue pills" when these fools see visions from a god. I guess I must have fell off the reality train somewhere because last time I checked hearing god speak to you ment that you belonged in a crazy bin not serving a empire.
Seems like every day now, slaves are being set free. Seems like those slaves have more of a brain than there original masters. Maybe the Amarr should start listening and taking notes from there own slaves. Maybe it will help them understand life as well understand how to read and write better. I think it could help the empire a great deal if this was done. Just a tip...
-Faming Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.14 08:32:00 -
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Doesn't matter. The Amarr 'THINK' they're better than us. Notice I say "Think" instead of showing facts on this being true. Now what gets me is how a race or empire can "Think" they're better and not fall under the 'Moron' classifications. Now to me, if I see someone with a ego, then I tend to think that person is a "Brainless idiot". Why? Well because people with ego's always fall. Having a ego blinds the mind and shows weakness. That is why the Amarr as well PIE are not feared. I wanted to point this out being I was debating on it with a friend of mine who was of the Amarr Empire. We both found it funny that they all seem to hold them selves higher than others yet see visions of some GOD on a daily basis. How is it we allow such crazy people think and act like this. Here I stand with insults from PIE in saying "Someone took to many blue pills" when these fools see visions from a god. I guess I must have fell off the reality train somewhere because last time I checked hearing god speak to you ment that you belonged in a crazy bin not serving a empire.
Seems like every day now, slaves are being set free. Seems like those slaves have more of a brain than there original masters. Maybe the Amarr should start listening and taking notes from there own slaves. Maybe it will help them understand life as well understand how to read and write better. I think it could help the empire a great deal if this was done. Just a tip...
-Faming Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.14 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Not really. Just pointing out how horrible your propaganda skills are. Take some lessons from Hardin.
Ahh, yes, the Amarrians are skilled at propoganda. However, that is just another word for lying to the people. I speak only for me, not for my people. And I do not use propoganda, I speak what I believe to be the truth.
But, nice boot licking to your Amarrian masters, im sure they will appreciate it Ammatar.
*spit*
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.14 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Not really. Just pointing out how horrible your propaganda skills are. Take some lessons from Hardin.
Ahh, yes, the Amarrians are skilled at propoganda. However, that is just another word for lying to the people. I speak only for me, not for my people. And I do not use propoganda, I speak what I believe to be the truth.
But, nice boot licking to your Amarrian masters, im sure they will appreciate it Ammatar.
*spit*
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.14 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/12/2004 09:28:07
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/12/2004 09:26:53
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Doesn't matter. The Amarr 'THINK' they're better than us. Notice I say "Think" instead of showing facts on this being true. Now what gets me is how a race or empire can "Think" they're better and not fall under the 'Moron' classifications.
Did we not develop jump gate technology before giving it to you?
Did we not rise to become to become the largest empire within the Eve cluster?
Have we not enlightened many different races of humanity, including the Udorians, Ealurians and Ni-Kunni?
Did we not take the Minmatars from their homeworld and give them a chance to shine in the wider galaxy?
Is our Empire and it's autonomous zones not home to more of your kind than your precious little republic?
If we weren't superior to you, would we have been able to do these things?
To say that your kind have been enslaved by morons, is an insult to Minmatar everywhere.
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Now to me, if I see someone with a ego, then I tend to think that person is a "Brainless idiot". Why? Well because people with ego's always fall. Having a ego blinds the mind and shows weakness. That is why the Amarr as well PIE are not feared.
If you do not fear us, why have you come onto this forum to attack us?
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I wanted to point this out being I was debating on it with a friend of mine who was of the Amarr Empire. We both found it funny that they all seem to hold them selves higher than others yet see visions of some GOD on a daily basis. How is it we allow such crazy people think and act like this. Here I stand with insults from PIE in saying "Someone took to many blue pills" when these fools see visions from a god. I guess I must have fell off the reality train somewhere because last time I checked hearing god speak to you ment that you belonged in a crazy bin not serving a empire.
I personally do not see visions of God on a daily basis, and I do not believe that my compatriots do either. We do see God's hand in many events, however, and try to carry out the task that He set us many centuries ago.
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Seems like every day now, slaves are being set free.
Sure, slaves are being illegally released every day, and some of them even many to escape the poverty that awaits them in your republic. But just as many new ones are being born every day - more than enough in fact, to cope with any losses due to terrorism.
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Seems like those slaves have more of a brain than there original masters.
Well, you would say that, wouldn't you? Doesn't make it right though.
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Maybe the Amarr should start listening and taking notes from there own slaves. Maybe it will help them understand life as well understand how to read and write better. I think it could help the empire a great deal if this was done. Just a tip...
Actually, I do listen to my slaves, and have a good relationship with them. Most of them look up to me as they would a kindly uncle. But perhaps you should listen to your own tips from further up this thread, and stop posting here.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.14 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/12/2004 09:28:07
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/12/2004 09:26:53
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Doesn't matter. The Amarr 'THINK' they're better than us. Notice I say "Think" instead of showing facts on this being true. Now what gets me is how a race or empire can "Think" they're better and not fall under the 'Moron' classifications.
Did we not develop jump gate technology before giving it to you?
Did we not rise to become to become the largest empire within the Eve cluster?
Have we not enlightened many different races of humanity, including the Udorians, Ealurians and Ni-Kunni?
Did we not take the Minmatars from their homeworld and give them a chance to shine in the wider galaxy?
Is our Empire and it's autonomous zones not home to more of your kind than your precious little republic?
If we weren't superior to you, would we have been able to do these things?
To say that your kind have been enslaved by morons, is an insult to Minmatar everywhere.
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Now to me, if I see someone with a ego, then I tend to think that person is a "Brainless idiot". Why? Well because people with ego's always fall. Having a ego blinds the mind and shows weakness. That is why the Amarr as well PIE are not feared.
If you do not fear us, why have you come onto this forum to attack us?
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I wanted to point this out being I was debating on it with a friend of mine who was of the Amarr Empire. We both found it funny that they all seem to hold them selves higher than others yet see visions of some GOD on a daily basis. How is it we allow such crazy people think and act like this. Here I stand with insults from PIE in saying "Someone took to many blue pills" when these fools see visions from a god. I guess I must have fell off the reality train somewhere because last time I checked hearing god speak to you ment that you belonged in a crazy bin not serving a empire.
I personally do not see visions of God on a daily basis, and I do not believe that my compatriots do either. We do see God's hand in many events, however, and try to carry out the task that He set us many centuries ago.
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Seems like every day now, slaves are being set free.
Sure, slaves are being illegally released every day, and some of them even many to escape the poverty that awaits them in your republic. But just as many new ones are being born every day - more than enough in fact, to cope with any losses due to terrorism.
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Seems like those slaves have more of a brain than there original masters.
Well, you would say that, wouldn't you? Doesn't make it right though.
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Maybe the Amarr should start listening and taking notes from there own slaves. Maybe it will help them understand life as well understand how to read and write better. I think it could help the empire a great deal if this was done. Just a tip...
Actually, I do listen to my slaves, and have a good relationship with them. Most of them look up to me as they would a kindly uncle. But perhaps you should listen to your own tips from further up this thread, and stop posting here.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.14 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 14/12/2004 18:36:55
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If you do not fear us, why have you come onto this forum to attack us?
Now lets think about this statement will we?
Fear - an unpleasant often strong emotion caused by anticipation or awareness of danger, an instance of this emotion ,a state marked by this emotion
Ok now if I had fear, why would I be attacking as well insulting you and everyone else like you. I would think that would upset you to track me down and kill me. I know it's hard for you think, but just try.
One or a couple of Amarrian do not make up your empire. You are all as one under the hand of God yes? So why is it you're using jump gate discovery as a way to say "Hey we're smart damnit!". It doesn't cover the fact on how most of you hold yourselfs as people, as a empire and as a power of war. Now we can get real technical with the matter if you wish. Take a simple Minmatar person for example.
Minmatar - Hard working, Freewill, Open mind, Loyal, Kind, Smart, and sometimes shackled.
Amarrian - Lazy, Commanded, Close Minded, Loyal, Honor, Ego and sometimes Smart.
Now when I say this, im not trying to sterotype everything. Im using statistics of both topics. I am married to a Amarrian and she doesn't show any of this. She doesn't have to depend on slaves to do work for her, she is a hard worker. She shows she can work with her hands and get stuff done right. Anyways, you do the math. I will save you more detail that will just end up confusing you even more than you already are.
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.14 18:33:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Famine Aligher'ri on 14/12/2004 18:36:55
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If you do not fear us, why have you come onto this forum to attack us?
Now lets think about this statement will we?
Fear - an unpleasant often strong emotion caused by anticipation or awareness of danger, an instance of this emotion ,a state marked by this emotion
Ok now if I had fear, why would I be attacking as well insulting you and everyone else like you. I would think that would upset you to track me down and kill me. I know it's hard for you think, but just try.
One or a couple of Amarrian do not make up your empire. You are all as one under the hand of God yes? So why is it you're using jump gate discovery as a way to say "Hey we're smart damnit!". It doesn't cover the fact on how most of you hold yourselfs as people, as a empire and as a power of war. Now we can get real technical with the matter if you wish. Take a simple Minmatar person for example.
Minmatar - Hard working, Freewill, Open mind, Loyal, Kind, Smart, and sometimes shackled.
Amarrian - Lazy, Commanded, Close Minded, Loyal, Honor, Ego and sometimes Smart.
Now when I say this, im not trying to sterotype everything. Im using statistics of both topics. I am married to a Amarrian and she doesn't show any of this. She doesn't have to depend on slaves to do work for her, she is a hard worker. She shows she can work with her hands and get stuff done right. Anyways, you do the math. I will save you more detail that will just end up confusing you even more than you already are.
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.14 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Pulgor on 14/12/2004 20:13:25
I have a different interpretation for you.
Minmatar -- Agressive, reckless, lackluster, suicidal, mostly shackled/harmless.
Say what you will but this is how you come off 90% of time time, that goes for pretty much every Minmat I've ever seen save a few. You guys contribute nothing to society and are overall a drain on the galaxy's resorces. You fight a war that was over eons ago and the only use you have now is blowing things up or being blown up. So essentially most Minmatar's are a waste of space.
Yet you blame this on the Amarr. It's not the Amarr's fault you can't do anything constructive to better yourselves. Take responsability for your own actions. Although I suppose that would be asking too much from the mentality of a frustrated child.
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Pulgor --- In service to Saram.
Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.14 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Pulgor on 14/12/2004 20:13:25
I have a different interpretation for you.
Minmatar -- Agressive, reckless, lackluster, suicidal, mostly shackled/harmless.
Say what you will but this is how you come off 90% of time time, that goes for pretty much every Minmat I've ever seen save a few. You guys contribute nothing to society and are overall a drain on the galaxy's resorces. You fight a war that was over eons ago and the only use you have now is blowing things up or being blown up. So essentially most Minmatar's are a waste of space.
Yet you blame this on the Amarr. It's not the Amarr's fault you can't do anything constructive to better yourselves. Take responsability for your own actions. Although I suppose that would be asking too much from the mentality of a frustrated child.
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Pulgor --- In service to Saram.
Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.14 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Minmatar - Hard working, Freewill, Open mind, Loyal, Kind, Smart, and sometimes shackled.
Amarrian - Lazy, Commanded, Close Minded, Loyal, Honor, Ego and sometimes Smart.
All this does is prove the old adage "don't work harder, work smarter"
Which sort of makes us superior to you.
Unless you're claiming that honour and loyalty are negative traits?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.12.14 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Minmatar - Hard working, Freewill, Open mind, Loyal, Kind, Smart, and sometimes shackled.
Amarrian - Lazy, Commanded, Close Minded, Loyal, Honor, Ego and sometimes Smart.
All this does is prove the old adage "don't work harder, work smarter"
Which sort of makes us superior to you.
Unless you're claiming that honour and loyalty are negative traits?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2004.12.16 23:23:00 -
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The only peace PIE seaks is the one where Minmatar slaves still serve them dinner and dance at their gatherings like sex slaves. They wonder why throats of nobles are slit at night when they get too close to their minmatar 'servants'.
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2004.12.16 23:23:00 -
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The only peace PIE seaks is the one where Minmatar slaves still serve them dinner and dance at their gatherings like sex slaves. They wonder why throats of nobles are slit at night when they get too close to their minmatar 'servants'.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylona Tso
The only peace PIE seaks is the one where Minmatar slaves still serve them dinner and dance at their gatherings like sex slaves. They wonder why throats of nobles are slit at night when they get too close to their minmatar 'servants'.
Not particularly, PIE have been very vocal that if the Minmat's stopped attacking PIE would laydown arms as well.
*Ring ring* Pick up the clue phone, the Minmats are the perpetuators of these conflicts now because they cannot seem to understand that the war ended a long while ago.
As for sliting Amarran's throats, thank you for explaining to everyone how useless the Minmat psycological pattarn is. Rather then just escaping they have to kill their master first for "Revenge" and then they escape, get in a starship and kill more Amarr's because they are unable to cope with the freedom they have achieved. Minmat's have no value for human life or otherwise and seek only to further their own pervereted means of revenge. They have no soul, really enslaving them is the only option available to contain them.
Although I personally think the Emperor should forget all that and just obliderate them. Do the Ammatar too just to be sure. I'd sacrifice the Ammatar State if it ment that the Minmatar were wiped out completly, infact I'd welcome the opportunity. It is times like this that I wish team Sarum won the Amarr championships. Or team Ardishapr, he would have done it.
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Pulgor --- In service to Saram.
Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.12.16 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylona Tso
The only peace PIE seaks is the one where Minmatar slaves still serve them dinner and dance at their gatherings like sex slaves. They wonder why throats of nobles are slit at night when they get too close to their minmatar 'servants'.
Not particularly, PIE have been very vocal that if the Minmat's stopped attacking PIE would laydown arms as well.
*Ring ring* Pick up the clue phone, the Minmats are the perpetuators of these conflicts now because they cannot seem to understand that the war ended a long while ago.
As for sliting Amarran's throats, thank you for explaining to everyone how useless the Minmat psycological pattarn is. Rather then just escaping they have to kill their master first for "Revenge" and then they escape, get in a starship and kill more Amarr's because they are unable to cope with the freedom they have achieved. Minmat's have no value for human life or otherwise and seek only to further their own pervereted means of revenge. They have no soul, really enslaving them is the only option available to contain them.
Although I personally think the Emperor should forget all that and just obliderate them. Do the Ammatar too just to be sure. I'd sacrifice the Ammatar State if it ment that the Minmatar were wiped out completly, infact I'd welcome the opportunity. It is times like this that I wish team Sarum won the Amarr championships. Or team Ardishapr, he would have done it.
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Pulgor --- In service to Saram.
Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.17 05:01:00 -
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Does laydown arms mean also freeing slaves? I think your phone is still ringing for a better chance that you might get smarter...
-Famine ALigher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.17 05:01:00 -
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Does laydown arms mean also freeing slaves? I think your phone is still ringing for a better chance that you might get smarter...
-Famine ALigher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
-The Frig- |
Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.17 05:24:00 -
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Slavery is entirely lawful.
Until The Emperor under the inspiration of God decides that said method of dealing with heathens and incorporating them into Amarr society no longer is working at least.
Do you my poor heathen know what would happen to your kind if the Emperor decided that Slavery was no longer effective and that you were a real threat to God's plans? I hope you have enough imagination to guess.
As for PIE. PIE is a paramilitary force in existance for the sole purpose of defending the Empire. If you attack the Empire you will be attacked. That involves such offensive actions as attacking our lawful shipments and slaughtering Amarr citizens. Every Corp we are at war with, is either a piratical organisation, or a misguided group of freedom fighters attacking Amarr against the wishes of their republic.
Those who are loyal to the 'republic' have absolutely nothing to fear from PIE. Only those who disobey their 'republic' and attack Amarr have something to fear.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.17 05:24:00 -
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Slavery is entirely lawful.
Until The Emperor under the inspiration of God decides that said method of dealing with heathens and incorporating them into Amarr society no longer is working at least.
Do you my poor heathen know what would happen to your kind if the Emperor decided that Slavery was no longer effective and that you were a real threat to God's plans? I hope you have enough imagination to guess.
As for PIE. PIE is a paramilitary force in existance for the sole purpose of defending the Empire. If you attack the Empire you will be attacked. That involves such offensive actions as attacking our lawful shipments and slaughtering Amarr citizens. Every Corp we are at war with, is either a piratical organisation, or a misguided group of freedom fighters attacking Amarr against the wishes of their republic.
Those who are loyal to the 'republic' have absolutely nothing to fear from PIE. Only those who disobey their 'republic' and attack Amarr have something to fear.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.17 06:38:00 -
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Was that a threat that the empire would have the power to wipe all of us away? Do you hold yourself that high? Far as I can see, your war with most of the freedom fighters and minmatar terrorist hasn't been won. Seems like both sides are pretty much equal untill the whole money issue stopped all sides...
Anyhow, I understand PIE are just puppets behind a empire's string. I wish I was a tool too but im not...
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.17 06:38:00 -
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Was that a threat that the empire would have the power to wipe all of us away? Do you hold yourself that high? Far as I can see, your war with most of the freedom fighters and minmatar terrorist hasn't been won. Seems like both sides are pretty much equal untill the whole money issue stopped all sides...
Anyhow, I understand PIE are just puppets behind a empire's string. I wish I was a tool too but im not...
-Famine Aligher'ri
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.22 07:57:00 -
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Gaven grins at the complete failure of the Minmatar to understand what he was saying
Let me try again
First I am not so arrogant to believe that PIE is more than what it is. It is a paramilitary organisation dedicated to the service of the Emperor. Nothing more nothing less.
The war with the terrorists is also on a similarly small scale. The terrorists are currently held at bay by the forces of the Amarran paramilitaries.
If however this balance changes in the terrorists favor they would be risking bringing the Imperial Navy into the picture. If that happened they would also be risking bringing the Republic into the conflict. As its leaders would either need to actively help the Imperial forces in defeating the treasonous terrorists withen their jurisdiction, or face imperial incursions into minmatar territory as they act to eleminate the terrorist threat. If the second happened that would likely mean war.
Now in war the minmatar have honestly no chance.
The Amarr Navy outnumbers any other navy on the face of EVE by a factor of two to one. Our ships may lack the technological gizmos that the Caldari and Gallente have, but they outclass both navies in regards to staying power and firepower. And well the Minmatar ships, are not much of a threat to speak of.
This means that not only are there more than twice as many Amarran ships as Minmatar, but that unless the Minmatar hire foriegn aid that they would need literally to reverse the numerical odds to have a chance.
Now throw in one last little thing. If this did come to pass, there is another possible turn of events that would make the minmatar defeat all but certain.
It is possible (not likely though) that if this did come to pass that the Emperor might be forced to change his opinion on the concept of enslaving people to further the ends of the people of God. If the improbable circumstances above happen he might decide to remove the minmatar threat permanently.
If this happened, then the minmatar would not have enough time to call aid in before it was all over. If the objective was to destroy rather than conquer then the war would last less than a week. Before the first week of combat ended every last minmatar population center and station in could be reduced to little more than rubble and incenerated corpses. And as the other empires would have no time to react there would be nothing they could do about it.
If the emperor doesnt take such drastic action the picture is just as ugly, as many people if not more will die, but it will be spread out among both sides and will take the course of a few years to play out. Still the probable result would still be the complete destruction of the Minmatar republic.
Neither makes a pretty picture does it?
Its good for you that PIE is not made up of the war mongers you seem to think we are isnt it?
Considering that all we would need to do to set a course of events that might lead to possible destruction of billions of minmatar and the Republic itself would be to let your lovely terrorist friends have their way for a while and actually cause serious damage.
I suggest that all minmatar pray that these Terrorists are never sucessful, for the result of their success would be the cesation of peace... and the slaughter of billions of potental servants of god.
I will fight for PIE to keep the scenario I laid out ahead from ever happening. I will fight for PIE to keep the very Pax Amarra that you condemn us for not following in place.
For peace to exist for the majority a minority must fight those that would wish to disrupt that Peace. That is what PIE does. Nothing more Nothing less.
How well we suceed is up to God.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2004.12.22 07:57:00 -
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Gaven grins at the complete failure of the Minmatar to understand what he was saying
Let me try again
First I am not so arrogant to believe that PIE is more than what it is. It is a paramilitary organisation dedicated to the service of the Emperor. Nothing more nothing less.
The war with the terrorists is also on a similarly small scale. The terrorists are currently held at bay by the forces of the Amarran paramilitaries.
If however this balance changes in the terrorists favor they would be risking bringing the Imperial Navy into the picture. If that happened they would also be risking bringing the Republic into the conflict. As its leaders would either need to actively help the Imperial forces in defeating the treasonous terrorists withen their jurisdiction, or face imperial incursions into minmatar territory as they act to eleminate the terrorist threat. If the second happened that would likely mean war.
Now in war the minmatar have honestly no chance.
The Amarr Navy outnumbers any other navy on the face of EVE by a factor of two to one. Our ships may lack the technological gizmos that the Caldari and Gallente have, but they outclass both navies in regards to staying power and firepower. And well the Minmatar ships, are not much of a threat to speak of.
This means that not only are there more than twice as many Amarran ships as Minmatar, but that unless the Minmatar hire foriegn aid that they would need literally to reverse the numerical odds to have a chance.
Now throw in one last little thing. If this did come to pass, there is another possible turn of events that would make the minmatar defeat all but certain.
It is possible (not likely though) that if this did come to pass that the Emperor might be forced to change his opinion on the concept of enslaving people to further the ends of the people of God. If the improbable circumstances above happen he might decide to remove the minmatar threat permanently.
If this happened, then the minmatar would not have enough time to call aid in before it was all over. If the objective was to destroy rather than conquer then the war would last less than a week. Before the first week of combat ended every last minmatar population center and station in could be reduced to little more than rubble and incenerated corpses. And as the other empires would have no time to react there would be nothing they could do about it.
If the emperor doesnt take such drastic action the picture is just as ugly, as many people if not more will die, but it will be spread out among both sides and will take the course of a few years to play out. Still the probable result would still be the complete destruction of the Minmatar republic.
Neither makes a pretty picture does it?
Its good for you that PIE is not made up of the war mongers you seem to think we are isnt it?
Considering that all we would need to do to set a course of events that might lead to possible destruction of billions of minmatar and the Republic itself would be to let your lovely terrorist friends have their way for a while and actually cause serious damage.
I suggest that all minmatar pray that these Terrorists are never sucessful, for the result of their success would be the cesation of peace... and the slaughter of billions of potental servants of god.
I will fight for PIE to keep the scenario I laid out ahead from ever happening. I will fight for PIE to keep the very Pax Amarra that you condemn us for not following in place.
For peace to exist for the majority a minority must fight those that would wish to disrupt that Peace. That is what PIE does. Nothing more Nothing less.
How well we suceed is up to God.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.22 10:16:00 -
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I sit here in disbelief at your propoganda skills...
You, you slave trading scum of Amarr, sit here and tell the people the your are holding galatic peace in the palm of your hand, and if it wasnt for you, the whole universe would come under the Amarrian Empires heel.
If you were so powerful as you so arrogantly believe, this would have happened already. If PIE is defeated wholesale, then nothing will change. There are freedom fighters not in our organisation, whom do you believe your agents send you out to kill?
And the Amarrian empire is kept in check by CONCORD and the other 3 empires, if it ever began its course of expansion and domination again, it would be crushed. As it well knows, however arrogantly you presume the Amarr Empire to be the be all and end all of the universe.
I trust that the good people of EVE can see through your propoganda, it is quite shallow.
There is another course of action, lobby your goverment to abandon slavery, free all your slaves which you gained by invading our space like common pirates and stealing women and children from their homes.
If you did this, we would leave you in peace.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2004.12.22 10:16:00 -
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I sit here in disbelief at your propoganda skills...
You, you slave trading scum of Amarr, sit here and tell the people the your are holding galatic peace in the palm of your hand, and if it wasnt for you, the whole universe would come under the Amarrian Empires heel.
If you were so powerful as you so arrogantly believe, this would have happened already. If PIE is defeated wholesale, then nothing will change. There are freedom fighters not in our organisation, whom do you believe your agents send you out to kill?
And the Amarrian empire is kept in check by CONCORD and the other 3 empires, if it ever began its course of expansion and domination again, it would be crushed. As it well knows, however arrogantly you presume the Amarr Empire to be the be all and end all of the universe.
I trust that the good people of EVE can see through your propoganda, it is quite shallow.
There is another course of action, lobby your goverment to abandon slavery, free all your slaves which you gained by invading our space like common pirates and stealing women and children from their homes.
If you did this, we would leave you in peace.
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"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." - Unknown Warrior
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.12.22 14:50:00 -
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Quote:
"You, you slave trading scum of Amarr, sit here and tell the people the your are holding galatic peace in the palm of your hand, and if it wasnt for you, the whole universe would come under the Amarrian Empires heel."
We bring enlightenment and the word of God to the masses. God is peace and love. Thus we are the most peaceful of the races. Even our military in its actions is working for God and is thus by default peaceful.
Archbishop
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.12.22 14:50:00 -
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Quote:
"You, you slave trading scum of Amarr, sit here and tell the people the your are holding galatic peace in the palm of your hand, and if it wasnt for you, the whole universe would come under the Amarrian Empires heel."
We bring enlightenment and the word of God to the masses. God is peace and love. Thus we are the most peaceful of the races. Even our military in its actions is working for God and is thus by default peaceful.
Archbishop
VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS
PIE INFORMATION CENTER |
zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.12.23 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
It is not our fault that terrorists from the so called 'republic' are raiding peacefull traders.
Hey undereducated.
We are not beeing sent by what you call "the republic" - this is exactly
the reason why we are 'rebels' to the minmatar republic.
What do they teach you in the acad... oh sorry, my bad.. they dont let you do the academy right?
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member.
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.12.23 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
It is not our fault that terrorists from the so called 'republic' are raiding peacefull traders.
Hey undereducated.
We are not beeing sent by what you call "the republic" - this is exactly
the reason why we are 'rebels' to the minmatar republic.
What do they teach you in the acad... oh sorry, my bad.. they dont let you do the academy right?
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member.
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.12.23 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor*Ring ring* Pick up the clue phone, the Minmats are the perpetuators of these conflicts now because they cannot seem to understand that the war ended a long while ago.[/quote
*ring ring* The Matari Freedom Fighters have been very vocal about they would
end the war, as soon slavery is beeing ended.
As we all know, PIE does not defend, PIE do enslave and fight
for the right to continue to enslave people.
They are guilty for more than one reason, and the only way to end
the war is THEM TO END SUPPORTING THE REASON FOR THE WAR.
Only a filthy amattar could fall blind to their "we only defend" propaganda.
I know, its complicated to simple minded amattar's.
If you require a more detail explanation why we fight
feel free to step into my office in pator and i
show you pictures that prove their crime against humanity.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member.
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.12.23 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor*Ring ring* Pick up the clue phone, the Minmats are the perpetuators of these conflicts now because they cannot seem to understand that the war ended a long while ago.[/quote
*ring ring* The Matari Freedom Fighters have been very vocal about they would
end the war, as soon slavery is beeing ended.
As we all know, PIE does not defend, PIE do enslave and fight
for the right to continue to enslave people.
They are guilty for more than one reason, and the only way to end
the war is THEM TO END SUPPORTING THE REASON FOR THE WAR.
Only a filthy amattar could fall blind to their "we only defend" propaganda.
I know, its complicated to simple minded amattar's.
If you require a more detail explanation why we fight
feel free to step into my office in pator and i
show you pictures that prove their crime against humanity.
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member.
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2004.12.23 11:23:00 -
[115]
This thread literally could go on forever...
in response to you khal i will remind you that the minmitar only escaped to the "small" republic due to our war with the Jovians. If this had not been so i think you would never of had the opportunity to have your so called freedom. In answer to every other minmitar WE ARE and WE WILL ALWAYS be SUPERIOR to you. You are an inferior race who were conquered, beaten, sunjugated but are so stupid to think that you can actually free your own people for a life of poverty. You are rejected by your own republic as rebels, branded as terrorists by the Amarr and Minmitar alike. You are nothign but a shadow of an idea that has been twisted and turned repeatedly with your sole purpose being to de-stablise everything we have worked so hard to build. If you ever learn from ancient history the only way terrorists ever got there way was to lay down firearms, sit down at the negotiating table and work it out...Simple ...Ceasefire or be destroyed or the cycle will continue...DUH! and we will still be superior...
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2004.12.23 11:23:00 -
[116]
This thread literally could go on forever...
in response to you khal i will remind you that the minmitar only escaped to the "small" republic due to our war with the Jovians. If this had not been so i think you would never of had the opportunity to have your so called freedom. In answer to every other minmitar WE ARE and WE WILL ALWAYS be SUPERIOR to you. You are an inferior race who were conquered, beaten, sunjugated but are so stupid to think that you can actually free your own people for a life of poverty. You are rejected by your own republic as rebels, branded as terrorists by the Amarr and Minmitar alike. You are nothign but a shadow of an idea that has been twisted and turned repeatedly with your sole purpose being to de-stablise everything we have worked so hard to build. If you ever learn from ancient history the only way terrorists ever got there way was to lay down firearms, sit down at the negotiating table and work it out...Simple ...Ceasefire or be destroyed or the cycle will continue...DUH! and we will still be superior...
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