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DawnTreader
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Posted - 2010.06.04 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: DawnTreader on 04/06/2010 12:45:07
I was gonna wait a bit longer to see how it all played out before I posted the 'part 2'.
But after numerous requests for an update and my own desire to debunk the massive amount of untruths being banded about I caved. Again I'll refrain from posting again in here to spare you all from the inevitable lame smack.
But just to answer the question of my honestly in these blogs; every word written is the truth to the very best of my knowledge. Clearly it's not an objective account of events because I'm heavily involved. But I'm not gonna demean myself by making stuff up.
After all this is just a game. And I do value integrity.
Part 1
Part 2
PS, many thanks to the random drunk guy who sent me a load of ISK in support!
{edited for link fail}
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Doctor Mustaka
Caldari
Stealthfield
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Posted - 2010.06.04 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Doctor Mustaka on 04/06/2010 13:03:26
first
Good write up mate. your linky is wrong. This one works though. Linkage.
I am sure someone will come to your aide. Sounds like those dreads could be taken out real easy.
I would suggest training up your pos gunner skills. A couple of gunners and some large guns would have made light work of that dread.
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Frank Jewett
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Posted - 2010.06.04 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Frank Jewett on 04/06/2010 14:17:22
Edited by: Frank Jewett on 04/06/2010 14:16:20
Posted by mistake admins please delete.
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Zephris
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Posted - 2010.06.04 14:29:00 -
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They've locked us into a long term conflict that we're quite happy to be in. But 95% of their members aren't.
Your continued aggression against miners and mission runners is a disappointment.
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We did enter 'diplomatic talks' at one point and I agreed to offline the hardeners in exchange for the safe passage of one of the Derp members who was trapped inside the camped system with a few of his ships.
That was never the term offered in the first place. I can post the diplomacy mail if anyone is interested.
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Titus Io
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Posted - 2010.06.04 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zephris
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They've locked us into a long term conflict that we're quite happy to be in. But 95% of their members aren't.
Your continued aggression against miners and mission runners is a disappointment.
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We did enter 'diplomatic talks' at one point and I agreed to offline the hardeners in exchange for the safe passage of one of the Derp members who was trapped inside the camped system with a few of his ships.
That was never the term offered in the first place. I can post the diplomacy mail if anyone is interested.
We've seen the diplomacy mail that you've been sent and take it from people that were present in the talks, that is not how it went down. We were being diplomatic with someone that we actually don't mind talking to, then the outspoken 'diplomat' decided to force her way into the talks and request that we bend ourselves over backwards like you've hedged us in with 20 faction fitted T3 ships. We're not about to kowtow to anyone over a couple of drakes and a badger, and discussing diplomacy from a very fictional high horse is not how it's done.
To quote Mikodo, "There are two sides to everything."
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Torque Daisy
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2010.06.04 17:37:00 -
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expected thread to be about the space telescope, left disappointed.
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Firnas
Minmatar
The Nintendo Generation
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.06.04 20:31:00 -
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I think it is worth mentioning at this point since you keep indicating that they are paying lots of isk to have these mercenaries help them.
I consider the IF people to be friends of mine and have been doing this for free and will continue to do so. As to the expense, ISK is relative, and I don't usually notice the expensive of moving around a dread or two. It would have been 8 but the wormhole was not agreeable to bringing that many in.
Just wanted to clear the air about the "throwing of isk at mercenaries". The truth of the matter is voluntary help of a friend.
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DJ Obsidian
New Eden Technical Institutes
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Posted - 2010.06.04 23:50:00 -
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DT's tower comes out of reinforced in 45 mins.
Oh you forgot to mention how you mailed all of indy and begged them to let you and your guys move all of your ships back to empire space. I have seen the wh pictures and DT shut off his ship hangers and ejected some 15 odd drakes, 5 battle ships and a few other misc ships to online guns.
So here is what is going to happen when your tower comes out of reinforced, they are going to blow it up. repair all the modules you anchored and unanchor them and sell them, and take all the ships. You, will be going home in a clone.
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DawnTreader
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Posted - 2010.06.05 00:11:00 -
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OK I'll break my silence for that one.
15 Drakes? We've never owned that many in the entire corp. In the past week there's only ever been one Derp BS in that system at a time. A Dom then a Raven.
When I first logged on today I self destructed my Raven, Drake, Mant and the corp salvager. I was expecting the place to be camped around the clock as the reinforced timer counted down.
But just a couple of hours later Indy had completely logged off. So we flew out the remaining two Drakes, Mant, Badger and transport ship.
Any one of the 30+ players who's spent time in the system over the past few days can confirm this.
If you've got screenshots that say otherwise, get them posted up.
You my friend are just another Min chat sycophant with too much time on his hands.
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Titus Io
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Posted - 2010.06.05 01:01:00 -
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Confirming that DJ Obsidian is talking through his arse.
I challenge you to post a link to the screenshot of our 'many battleships' that we ejected. Seriously, go back through your chat logs and grab that linky. We'd all like to see it.
Same for any mail where we beg for ANYTHING from INDY at all. (Except for them to shut up. That doesn't count.)
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Cyrius Logik
Minmatar
One Two Many
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 04:13:00 -
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When I did need to return to base I would overshoot the route by a few jumps then double back hoping their scanners would spend hours searching in entirely the wrong systems.
Yup, tracked that. We knew it would be difficult to track you, you aren't stupid. In the end, it was your poor WH management that led us in.
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As a warm up to the loaming empire battles, it's been fun so far. I think we've had a few more kills than loses.
You are doing quite well against our bears. I did try to give you some sport, but alas, even after boasting about having higher dps than me, Titus didn't have the guts to fight BC to BC.
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Cyrius Logik > But you don't wanna fight
Titus Io > Haha, I'd love to fight if I thought I could win
You will do well enough fighting non-combat pilots, but that is what you are about, isn't it? You like to gank defenseless targets. If you ever care to engage those that you imagine betrayed you, we are still waiting.
All your mistakes and shortcomings -- The pulsar you couldn't conquer, the POS you couldn't manage, the members you abandoned, and the partner that you drove away.. Yes. You drove away Mik. You failed to even attempt to learn what had happened, you just ran away and screamed and kicked and threw a tantrum. Indy would have helped you, but you had to be the proud and pig headed CEO. You are a good pilot, a good friend, but a poor CEO. You made decisions that you were not qualified to handle, and this is the result. All the miners you can eat, won't fill the void m'friend.
We offered you a truce, to keep your combat ships in escrow until you cooled your jets. Instead, we shall now deny you your best assets. We are seasoned pilots, and unlike you, we know how to manage our operations. We have retaken what Indy provided, and could be satisfied at that. The rest is up to you.
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Draulin
Gallente
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: Draulin on 05/06/2010 05:38:28
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Titus Io
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Posted - 2010.06.05 05:47:00 -
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Edited by: Titus Io on 05/06/2010 05:49:18
Originally by: Cyrius Logik
I did try to give you some sport, but alas, even after boasting about having higher dps than me, Titus didn't have the guts to fight BC to BC.
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Cyrius Logik > But you don't wanna fight
Titus Io > Haha, I'd love to fight if I thought I could win
You will do well enough fighting non-combat pilots, but that is what you are about, isn't it? You like to gank defenseless targets.
Haha, yet again more half-stories from INDY. You fail to mention the blackbird and scorpion that were in your group, in the same system, and that I was solo. You also only quote those two lines because the rest of the conversation outlines the real reason that I wouldn't fight you BC to BC - I simply don't trust you. That [INDY] after your name in my overview just means mistrust as far as I'm concerned. I love 1v1 BC fights. It used to be pretty much the only thing I did for about half a year outside Dodixie Fed Navy. There are many that would attest to that, not to mention my old griefwatch killboard.
It was always risky to do that with all the neut RR around but I don't mind losing a BC or two as long as it's a decent fight. Being jumped and getting jammed like a ***** isn't my kind of fun though, sorry. You'll have to look else where for that.
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We offered you a truce, to keep your combat ships in escrow until you cooled your jets.
Nope, mistrust yet again. And for your info Cyrius, the truce was not offered. The way it was put forward was more of an imposition than an offering and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth, especially when you have no hold over us.
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Instead, we shall now deny you your best assets.
Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what assets these might be that you obviously have some form of control over? You don't seem to be looking at the bigger picture. We've lost a few things during this war but we've gained what we wanted and what we as a corp prize above all else - PvP. It's what we look for day in, day out and you have given it to us. Whether we win or lose, we will learn and we will not stop.
Oh, and some food for thought. You will take out our POS tonight, congratulations. And so ends our list of assets, apart from ourselves, that you can lay siege to. However, your list is vast. Your attack ends tonight, ours has yet to begin. Remember, my scan alt was in your wormhole long before you had a tag on ours.
Edit: Spelling
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Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.05 06:03:00 -
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So these devious carebears stole 2 class 5 systems from you, 1 by sabatoge, 1 by force. They took the time to use locators track you down find a way in and serve an eviction notice sucessfully?
Dude you may want to re-think this bears thing, these are the makings of a 0.0 alliance, blood thirsty, ruthless, and willing to take extreme chances when they know the odds are against them. Despite their losses they still kept coming after you.
This is what seperates the 0.0 people from the empire people, willing to risk it all and more to accomplish a goal.
I look forward to seeing INDY in regular 0.0.
P.S. If you did your killboard research, this is INDY's 3rd pos tower take down.
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NGTM1R
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Posted - 2010.06.05 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Titus Io
That [INDY] after your name in my overview just means mistrust as far as I'm concerned.
And in that one sentence you pretty much put the lie to your entire assessment of this war. You can't paint INDY as chumps anymore; they've tracked you down, beat you up, taken your lunch money. They've followed you into your wormholes and killed your towers.
And now, as the final, crowning glory, they've proved to be canny enough you believe they'll abandon e-honor as a matter of course. This is not the behavior of a carebear alliance you describe.
In contrast, you have run and hid, tried to get your wormhole to save you, and generally picked on clearly inferior opponents only and even then sometimes lost. This is the behavior of carebears.
If things were remotely as you claim, this would be like watching somebody fight BRUCE again. It is, but only because between you and Dawn you're quite adept at imitating Friedrick's spin efforts.
So how long until DawnTreader robs your corp blind and goes home to wherever he lived before, all while writing it up all prettified on his blog?
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Titus Io
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Posted - 2010.06.05 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: NGTM1R
And in that one sentence you pretty much put the lie to your entire assessment of this war. You can't paint INDY as chumps anymore; they've tracked you down, beat you up, taken your lunch money. They've followed you into your wormholes and killed your towers.
And now, as the final, crowning glory, they've proved to be canny enough you believe they'll abandon e-honor as a matter of course. This is not the behavior of a carebear alliance you describe.
In contrast, you have run and hid, tried to get your wormhole to save you, and generally picked on clearly inferior opponents only and even then sometimes lost. This is the behavior of carebears.
If things were remotely as you claim, this would be like watching somebody fight BRUCE again. It is, but only because between you and Dawn you're quite adept at imitating Friedrick's spin efforts.
So how long until DawnTreader robs your corp blind and goes home to wherever he lived before, all while writing it up all prettified on his blog?
The imitation you present I have no knowledge of so I will decline to comment.
The notion that we were hiding in our wormhole shows how little you know of the situation. When we gained wind of the impending attack on our POS my alt was firmly within THEIR wormhole and my main in highsec where I was hunting targets. Our corp, infact, only had two scan alts in our own wormhole when we gained the attack info. So much for hiding.
You may note that I have not used the 'carebear' reference in any of my posts. I believe that some of INDY fit that description, not the Alliance as a whole. There are some very good pilots that far outstrip my own abilities within INDY and I fully respect that. We are also heavily outnumbered, at least 10-1 pilot wise.
You could also do some research and find that we have not engaged or killed any 'carebear' targets at all during this war (that belong to INDY anyway). One exception that you may argue was my transport kill which was carrying stront for a dread. I would argue that it most certainly wasn't an easy kill. The rest have been combat ships, fit as such.
As far as the running "You ran from a 1v1 BC fight" argument goes, I ran and hid from a group of 3 ships that I had no hope of beating by myself. They then, as far as I'm concerned, tried to coax me out by offering a 1v1. I'm sorry that you are disatisfied with my reluctance to willingly jump in to a fight that would most certainly mean a loss. Please don't be angry if I continue in this way as saving my ship for another fight just seems like sense to me. Maybe you should vent a little at the other side for not being tactical enough to catch me outnumbered?
INDY have killed one of our towers. I have no clue where the extra two or three that are being mentioned have come from, unless someone's been putting up Derp towers without me knowing. INDY's POS bashing career spans to 3 towers since I've known them. The first of which Derp provided the staging ground and probably around a third of the DPS. The second being a different entity in the pulsar C5 who are blue to Derp. This was a new tower, negligible defences and no stront. We'd warned them but they didn't listen. An easy bash. The third being our own, and I tip my hat too them. The logistics were well handled and it was a resounding victory for them, even if they gained no loot.
They had the upper hand on us there. I've had my alt in their system for a while now but our member list is thin so gathering the necessary man power to pull off an attack is taking a while. INDY's member list is very long, not to mention their countless friends that they just seem to pull out of thin air. However, you make them out as if they are invulnerable to anything we might try. There's no possible way that we could take one of their towers right?... Nothing is safe in EVE.
DT could very well rob us blind and go to where ever he likes. I take that risk with every CEO, not just DT.
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Baalroshe
Baalnation
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Posted - 2010.06.05 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: Baalroshe on 05/06/2010 09:22:37
Originally by: Ai Mei
Edited by: Ai Mei on 05/06/2010 06:05:59
P.S. If you did your killboard research, this is INDY's 3rd pos tower take down.
Edit: 2 dreads in the wh to kill the tower, now that is dedication.
not really sure what your point is... whether you think only having 2 dreads to kill a pos is dedication or actually taken the time to bring out 2 dreads either way both cases are nothing to brag about ive been apart of both extremes... much less and much more and always doing more collateral dmg than indy did
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Cyrius Logik
Minmatar
One Two Many
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Titus Io
...my butt hurts...
Fixed that for ya.
Just real quick, gotta clear up a few things.
You have scan alts in both W-systems because you were GIVEN those locations. You have dropped from 22 to 8 members since starting this bit of theater.
A third of the dps? HAH! A raven and a tengu don't amount to a THIRD. Putting the tower into reinforced included all 1 more of your pilots and about 4 or 5 more of Indy.
Indy doesn't pull friends out of thin air. We pull friends out of long-standing relationships and earned trust. We had volunteers, not just hired hands. I'd say that we have both shown our true colors -- Swift betrayal in leaving Indy, shooting the people that helped you, and declaring war has gained you alts within Indy and scanners where we operate. Derp is engaging in highsec pvp, as far away from Indy's pvp pilots as possible. Indy has stripped you of everything that you can't cloak or shove up your own arse. I wish I could take credit for your corp numbers dwindling, but I wouldn't dare try to compete with you on corporation management.
And imagine, I must have been plotting something nefarious when I told vent to let me fight you alone. Indy people simply don't do what we say we will... wait... yes we do... and yes we have. /me hands Titus the ointment > careful sitting down, soft cheeks.
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DawnTreader
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Posted - 2010.06.05 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrius Logik
A third of the dps? HAH! A raven and a tengu don't amount to a THIRD. Putting the tower into reinforced included all 1 more of your pilots and about 4 or 5 more of Indy.
OK.
Titus Io
Deep Space Derp
Independent Faction
Armageddon (Battleship)
Bouncer II
Damage done:14,116,190 (27%)
DawnTreader
Deep Space Derp
Independent Faction
Raven (Battleship)
Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Damage done:5,364,373 (10%)
Tengu Megabot10k
Deep Space Derp
Independent Faction
Tengu (Strategic Cruiser)
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Damage done:3,319,956 (6%)
27+10+6 = 43%
Now slandering my abilities is par for the course, we are now destined to eventually destroy your dear alliance after all.
But please stop making crap up! Can't you guys stick to the truth just on one single point?
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Zephris
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Posted - 2010.06.05 13:25:00 -
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We've lost a few things during this war but we've gained what we wanted and what we as a corp prize above all else - PvP. It's what we look for day in, day out and you have given it to us. Whether we win or lose, we will learn and we will not stop.
That make me wonder if you have staged the whole thing so you can have your war.
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Zephris
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Posted - 2010.06.05 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: DawnTreader
Originally by: Cyrius Logik
A third of the dps? HAH! A raven and a tengu don't amount to a THIRD. Putting the tower into reinforced included all 1 more of your pilots and about 4 or 5 more of Indy.
OK.
Titus Io
Deep Space Derp
Independent Faction
Armageddon (Battleship)
Bouncer II
Damage done:14,116,190 (27%)
DawnTreader
Deep Space Derp
Independent Faction
Raven (Battleship)
Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Damage done:5,364,373 (10%)
Tengu Megabot10k
Deep Space Derp
Independent Faction
Tengu (Strategic Cruiser)
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Damage done:3,319,956 (6%)
27+10+6 = 43%
Now slandering my abilities is par for the course, we are now destined to eventually destroy your dear alliance after all.
But please stop making crap up! Can't you guys stick to the truth just on one single point?
Killmail does not report shield damage that place a tower into reinforce. I was present at this tower attack:
http://indy.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6768171
But logged off before it went into structure. I didn't even show up in the killmail.
I am not dying the possibility that you are doing 45% damage to the russian tower, however I must point out that there is a possibility that you didn't.
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DawnTreader
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Posted - 2010.06.05 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zephris
That make me wonder if you have staged the whole thing so you can have your war.
I'm not getting into POS damage maths for the insane....but I do wanna address your point here. As you're not the first to suggest that we blew our own **** up as a pretense for war.
It does sound plausable, but it's simply not true. All of the 'real' Derp members were offline when the incident occured.
Moreover, we lost out big time. It wasn't so much the ships as the untrustworthy new recruits we had to boot. Untrustworthy not because of the unexplained sabotage, but their extremely defensive and downright suspicious reaction to it.
I never accused anyone, I just stated the fact the only a few members were online and had access at the time.
We had big plans for w-space and that C5 system. I'd already setup a google docs sheet to gather intel on C3s with a view to cycling the static to specific systems with 2 Orcas.
But for any of this to work, we needed a decent sized fleet and of course the system it's self. We now have neither and can't safely recruit due to the Indy/Min chat spy alts who've already made laughable attempts to infiltrate us.
I wanted to work with Indy, not spend a year or more fighting them in Empire. But sometimes you've just gotta roll with the punches old boy.
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Thalkorn
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Posted - 2010.06.05 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: Thalkorn on 05/06/2010 14:19:17
After reading all the critisism on Dawntreader I feel like I have to give my view on a completly other person.
He's a CEO in a corp that hasnt been around for a long time
This guy is probely the single reason why I know, what I know in Eve. Question after question, he has answered with patients and everytime took his time explaining it so a newb like me could understand it. And afterwards he wanted to know if the answer made any sence. The dedication and time this guy has put to his corp and the game is just amazing. Hours and hours and hours of scanning, researching and posted hints he thought could help. He has never put any orders down at us, but instead posted it and asked what the rest of us felt like.
Funny enough its the same Dawntreader that all of you critize for failing on each of us members and being a bad CEO!
I really cant recall any of the arguments you use to rag him down
The War we entered was not a single man's decision. It was an agreement of all of us, supporting our CEO. I cant speak of the others but personly I couldnt see any other way than delcaring war against those who we gave our trust and then gratituded with stealing everything we had.
I the beginning I was amazed reading all the childish comments on him in chat - funny enough mostly when he wasnt there - and then completly change of attitude when he was around. I dont want to go into more details about this because it would just be a repeat of what Dawntreaders already has in his own blog, but "Dr. jekyll and Mr. Hide" really came to cross my mind dozens of times.
Eventhough the defence of our pos maybe was doomed forhanded I have never questioned my part of supporting the choise we made. It had to be done! Dawntreader is not a bad CEO. He's a dedicated leader who shares his oppinions with his corp before deciding what to do next. And always has the time (and takes the time) even for a newb like me who seems to be a bit slowlearning, "forgetting how to do" and always asking stupid questions.
Please people. If you dont know it.. Dont comment it
A newbies word ... But an honest newb
(sry for gramma errors and some poor english)
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Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.05 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Baalroshe
Edited by: Baalroshe on 05/06/2010 09:22:37
Originally by: Ai Mei
Edited by: Ai Mei on 05/06/2010 06:05:59
P.S. If you did your killboard research, this is INDY's 3rd pos tower take down.
Edit: 2 dreads in the wh to kill the tower, now that is dedication.
not really sure what your point is... whether you think only having 2 dreads to kill a pos is dedication or actually taken the time to bring out 2 dreads either way both cases are nothing to brag about ive been apart of both extremes... much less and much more and always doing more collateral dmg than indy did
The point is, getting 2 dreads from normal k-space into w-space sucessfully, despite the obvious pitfalls you can only get 1 capital through the hole at a time and it's practically a sitting duck by itself.
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Cyrius Logik
Minmatar
One Two Many
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.05 23:37:00 -
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[tl;dr]
My mistake on the pos km. DT is an FC not a CEO. Not knowing who betrayed you doesn't stop you from betraying others. You'd rather bite the hand that feeds before talking. You attempt to elevate a few lucky kills above losing a large pos, arrays, ships, mods, and pods, and the system it was in. Pull your head out of your arse, please.
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Wups, I did miss that top damage dealer... I should refrain from posting before I finish waking up. I checked three times, I thought. Yup, Derp did good on that thing. My mistake. Props to derp for that. Still wish we had stats for the reinforcement of the tower.
Thalkorn, I have great respect for DT in terms of his leadership. You aren't wrong. However, his corporate management skills are lacking to say the least. Derp isn't just DT at the top, he had his trusted partners that complimented his own abilities. Without people like Mikodo, Titus, and others, DT is an FC and teambuilder without a team.
Simple truth is that there is little of it. Instead, we have buckets of speculation. We know some of the conditions that contributed but not the details of who, how, or why. Yet, even with this lack of evidence, abandonment, attacks, and war came before diplomacy or even a memo scribbled on a napkin.
Brash and reckless behavior has no place in Indy. If I found that a member of Indy was responsible for your theft, I would ask them to leave or leave myself. In the end, though, Derp's crimes far exceed the victimization. Someone ripped you off, blew up ships and betrayed you. You still had a fine C5 Pulsar with a C3 static. You could have regained the entire incident with four drakes and two hours. Instead of recovering, instead of picking yourself up and sorting out the situation, war was your chosen path. You are responsible for your own loss, nobody else.
Both sides have been hammering away at the name calling and crying. Both sides have brought additional groups into the conflict. Both sides believe they are righteously defending their honor. The differences are in how we conduct ourselves in the field. You boast spies, scanners, and evading our efforts to track and assault your system. This would be a valid boast, except that all your intel, scanner alts, and even the system itself were originally a part of Indy, you simply have taken advantage of our help in a precipitous war of betrayal. Although who betrayed you is unknown, you display your betrayal of Indy openly and proudly.
The most recent display of your character is your claimed success on the killboards. A brief look at your killboard shows that you have managed a few kills involving our industrialist pilots. You aren't really trying to hype that up much, so I could let it slide. However, your claim that Indy's reclamation of the C5 doesn't mean much to you strikes me as odd. You are clearly content to boast over minor skirmishes (while evading anything resembling a challenge), yet the loss of your only genuine asset and two thirds of your members is irrelevant? Ready to stop blowing up your ships whenever you feel like pulling your head out of your arse.
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DawnTreader
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Posted - 2010.06.06 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrius Logik
A brief look at your killboard shows that you have managed a few kills involving our industrialist pilots.
So you missed the 5 Privateers we killed over the past couple of days then? No offence, but you don't seem to be great with killboards mate.
Anyway, this is absolutley my last post. Life's too short.
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Titus Io
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Posted - 2010.06.06 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cyrius Logik
You have scan alts in both W-systems because you were GIVEN those locations. You have dropped from 22 to 8 members since starting this bit of theater.
Oh please, do quit running your mouth. I had moved both my characters out of your WH when we were still in INDY. Ask anyone, especially Bjorn, that I had used the current alt that I have in your system to move our stuff out of your WH when we moved. I got back in there through locator agents and my own intelligence. You did not hand me ****.
We have dropped from 22 members to 8 because we expelled all those we deemed untrustworthy. We have also formed an Alliance with two other corps which completely undermines your entire point.
And like I said, I have no trust for you. You say one thing, I think another. "I said this in vent, and I said that in vent"... save it. Think about it. Would you take me up on the same deal if we were 3 vs 1 and you had no backup? It's a retorical question. If you would during a war, you're an idiot.
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Stephanie MacKenzie
Minmatar
Farsight Enterprises LLC
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.06 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: DawnTreader
Anyway, this is absolutley my last post. Life's too short.
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Cyrius Logik
Minmatar
One Two Many
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.06 05:38:00 -
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Running my mouth? No sir. I don't really care about your adventures in martyrdom, I just don't appreciate ill conceived posts and blogs.
As for your killboard, I don't track people I don't know. I believe privateers were paid via a private party. I really don't know much about it. Its your problem, really.
Derp has been gleaming info from an alliance source since the beginning. Access to mailing lists and forums was delayed long enough for you to arrange all your alts. The benefit of betrayal is that you have time before your victims realize you've stabbed them in the back. A poor boast, indeed.
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We have dropped from 22 members to 8 because we expelled all those we deemed untrustworthy.
Way to insult the good people of Derp. What a guy you are. How does teaming up with others solve your own recruitment problems? Its dangerous to associate with you guys, clearly, and Mikodo knew when to fold on a bad hand. Take a hint, you are headed for a brick wall.
If you are out to make a statement of justice, you are just tossing isk away. "Poor us, nasty Indy" doesn't fly. Entering an alliance to reduce your isk cost and raise everyone else's isn't recruitment, its economical warfare. Surely you can't believe that propoganda and isk sinks will accomplish your ill will?
Where you get off commenting on the value of my word and my honor, I have no idea. Indy didn't start a war, Indy didn't shoot haulers, Indy didn't steal assets and then boot half its membership. If you fancy yourself a moral/ethical critic, I suggest starting at home.
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myguyk
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Posted - 2010.07.29 05:34:00 -
[30]
Titus Io is DT.. Love how he plays that one.. All lies and failure from this guy.. Get out the popcorn. DT and his alts are talking to eachother again.. lmao |
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myguyk
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Posted - 2010.07.29 05:47:00 -
[31]
DTs posts end with "no more posting for me" then his alt pops up something just as stupid... LMAOOOOOO
I dont like drama in game, but some forum trolling is always fabulous stuff..
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.29 09:59:00 -
[32]
You know I actually think we've done the virtually impossible and found a worse CEO than Joe Phoenix.
C/D?
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php |
Beachura
Two Maidens One Chalice
Equillibrium.
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:16:00 -
[33]
Tbh, titus io seems legit, It's starting to look very much like the attackers are bsing about the amount of ships and worth of the tower
being a troll is funny
being a compulsive liar, however is not, good luck to the defenders
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Aerion Va'rr
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.29 12:42:00 -
[34]
"If any pirate gangs want a route into 2 C5 wormholes full of carebears, just get in touch."
Confirming Interest.
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Damien Smith
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:40:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Aerion Va'rr
"If any pirate gangs want a route into 2 C5 wormholes full of carebears, just get in touch."
Confirming Interest.
Also confirming interest.
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Titus Io
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Posted - 2010.07.29 15:47:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Titus Io on 29/07/2010 15:47:48
Oh wow... C+P has turned into a grave digging convention!
This was all over months ago guys. Dead and buried, and nobody cares anymore.
DT signing out.
Edit: LOL, wrong account again! D'oh!
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hyperfly
Minmatar
Terra-Incognita
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Posted - 2010.07.30 00:30:00 -
[37]
Being a s**t CEO in eve -- 100 mil isk
Losing a loki to a null sec fleet -- 500 mil isk
Watching DT/Io dig his OWN grave.. PRICELESS!
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Aerion Va'rr
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 01:07:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Damien Smith
Originally by: Aerion Va'rr
"If any pirate gangs want a route into 2 C5 wormholes full of carebears, just get in touch."
Confirming Interest.
Also confirming interest.
Confirming that RvB isn't a pirate organization. It just has some bloodthirsty players.
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Jesslyn Daggererux
Non-Aligned Movement Biologic License Application
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Posted - 2010.07.30 03:09:00 -
[39]
RvB, Eve's newest mercs.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
Hola, esta forum es ingles solamente.
This forum is English only. Welcome to my lock. Now please, zip your pants. I don't need a show.
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AFK Cloaker
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.30 04:51:00 -
[40]
This is now a RvB recruitment thread. |
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Titus Io
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:11:00 -
[41]
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
This is now a RvB recruitment thread.
Expected a blank post, left disappointed.
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:22:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Damien Smith
Originally by: Aerion Va'rr
"If any pirate gangs want a route into 2 C5 wormholes full of carebears, just get in touch."
Confirming Interest.
Also confirming interest.
Ah was that what the purple fleet I saw last night was for?
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Wreck Disposal Services |
Aerion Va'rr
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.30 18:24:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Damien Smith
Originally by: Aerion Va'rr
"If any pirate gangs want a route into 2 C5 wormholes full of carebears, just get in touch."
Confirming Interest.
Also confirming interest.
Ah was that what the purple fleet I saw last night was for?
Nope- 3rd Party War Targets..
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