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Jedue	Posted - 2010.06.05 17:29:00 - [1] Hey all, I started playing awhile ago, but due to events IRL I've had to take an extended break from Eve... but now I'm back! Anyway, I just started doing lvl4's this week but it is seriously slow going, and I know part of that is my skills. So I was hoping you could give me advise on my ship build I have now, and the one I am thinking about doing tonight. My current set up: [Dominix, Current, turret] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Ogre I x5 Hobgoblin I x5 Hammerhead I x5 New one I am thinking of doing tonight: [Dominix, Current, blaster] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Modal Mega Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Electron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Ogre I x5 Hobgoblin I x5 Hammerhead I x5 I have Drone Interfacing 4 finishing tomorrow afternoon, then I'll be starting my plan for t2 drones. Thanks!
Pantload Gallente The Underpants Gnomes Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2010.06.05 17:37:00 - [2] I believe you will really hate the range on blasters. A combination of Rails + Sentries is the ticket to high usable DPS on a Dominix. Cheers, PL TUG: The Underpants Gnomes. Buy Corps here
Goose99	Posted - 2010.06.05 17:38:00 - [3] Use mega instead of domi until you have drone skills.
Jedue	Posted - 2010.06.05 17:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Pantload I believe you will really hate the range on blasters. A combination of Rails + Sentries is the ticket to high usable DPS on a Dominix. Cheers, PL The reasoning I had was that it seems BS's orbit at either like <10k or >40k, and I have problems doing good DPS at both, so I thought I could take out the closer ones, and have my drones do the distance like they normally would. Any thoughts? Also, my gunnery skills are kind of low, I have 1.8m sp, but it is all over the place due to this being my first character. Most of them are at about lvl 3, with advanced and regular weapon upgrades at 4 and 5.
Party Scout	Posted - 2010.06.05 18:09:00 - [5] Tech 1 drones.... :S They work, but a Domi will shine with tech 2. Try to get to tech 2 light/meds quick, should not take long. As other people have said, rails are probably better. You have no AB, so your dominix is a slowminix. Drones can destroy targets at close range much faster than they can fly to long ranges, so go with rails. Also, train sentry drones! Sentry drones are mean, and can kill even frigates at long range, and do not have to fly there. Even tech 1 sentry drones are mean killing machines.
Pantload Gallente The Underpants Gnomes Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2010.06.05 18:20:00 - [6] Edited by: Pantload on 05/06/2010 18:25:34 Originally by: Jedue Originally by: Pantload I believe you will really hate the range on blasters. A combination of Rails + Sentries is the ticket to high usable DPS on a Dominix. Cheers, PL The reasoning I had was that it seems BS's orbit at either like <10k or >40k, and I have problems doing good DPS at both, so I thought I could take out the closer ones, and have my drones do the distance like they normally would. Any thoughts? Also, my gunnery skills are kind of low, I have 1.8m sp, but it is all over the place due to this being my first character. Most of them are at about lvl 3, with advanced and regular weapon upgrades at 4 and 5. Suggested fitting change: [Dominix, ThisMaybe?] Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Drones: 5x Garde 5x Warden/Bouncer OR 5x Heavy ( depends on mission ) 5x Medium ( mission specific ) 5x Lights ( mission specific ) Some spare meds/lights -Swap scripts in tracking comps to improve range or tracking as needed. -A lot of people hate cap boosters but I swear by them. All your cap needs in one module. -T2 Drones REALLY help out. -Drone Interfacing 5 is a very worthwhile train if you choose to continue down this path. -Having Gallente BS skill to at least a 4 is also very good. -I'm not a huge fan of the D250 rails but they are necessary to make power grid work -Later as you get much more comfortable with the ship and your skills, you can remove the 2nd armor rep and upgrade to 350mm rails and possibly add a 3rd magstab. Sentries have good tracking, especially Gardes, when using omnidirectionals. Just some thoughts. Cheers, PL TUG: The Underpants Gnomes. Buy Corps here
Jedue	Posted - 2010.06.05 18:36:00 - [7] Great thanks, I'll look into getting sentries, thanks again for the advice.
Dzajic Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2010.06.05 18:56:00 - [8] They both look a bit overtanked. I think you can do every "only two types of damage" mission with only one LAR-II. About blasters in missions. Could they possibly be a good option in Angel missions, all those NPC Machs sitting right in your face and all...
Iamid Ichabod	Posted - 2010.06.05 23:27:00 - [9] Bellow is for various ranged fights once you have t2 sentries (strongly suggested for missions). Just swap to tracking speed script from optimal script, switch to gardes from bounces and use Faction AM ammo from Faction Uranium for shorter ranged fights. Unless they spawn on top of you you'll kill most things at range. It's cap stable for a little over 3 minutes so you can't afk, you'd have to manage your cap use/aggro (as you get a feel for the missions you'll find there really is no reason to be cap stable unless afk). It does just under 700 dps to guns 62km optimal range and just over 800 for the closer engagements optimal for guns at 36km. Eventually for many missions you can drop the eanm for another mag stab. Some people drop the 2nd drone tracking module for a target painter. TL/DR - less tank/less cap stability for more gank and use T2 sentries [Dominix, T2/named mission] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Large Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Link Augmentor I 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Sentry Damage Augmentor I Ancillary Current Router I Ancillary Current Router I Garde II x5 Bouncer II x5
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2010.06.06 01:59:00 - [10] The suggestions here are good. Domi is the worst ship you can use with blaster cept maybe an obelisk. Here's my fit for a afk mission domi to give you some ideas. Personally, I'd go with a Mega if you want to actively go after mission rats. The Domi in my opinion doesn't have the firepower to kill them fast which is why I use it as a afk mission drone boat. Set it and forget it. Great for doing household chores. [Dominix, New Setup 1] Capacitor Power Relay II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I 5x hammerhead II 5x Ogre I 5x hobgoblin II
Rose Deathscythe	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Mr Kidd [Dominix, New Setup 1] Capacitor Power Relay II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I 5x hammerhead II 5x Ogre I 5x hobgoblin II I used an almost exact similar setup the other day for a lvl4 and my Domni got vaped in a few minutes after whole room auto-aggroed (kill the thief). Is this setup the problem or are there some mystical skills or tactics for the Domni I'm missing out on?
Mael Sechnaill	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:10:00 - [12] There is no such thing like afk missioning. Unless you use macros, but I doubt they even exist. Afk missioning is a myth. You always need/have to perform ceratin tasks depending on situation.
Lana Saxington School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Rose Deathscythe I used an almost exact similar setup the other day for a lvl4 and my Domni got vaped in a few minutes after whole room auto-aggroed (kill the thief). Is this setup the problem or are there some mystical skills or tactics for the Domni I'm missing out on? Stop the Thief is just a rather DPS-heavy mission, not one that you want to do AFK. This is my favourite domi setup: [Dominix, PvE] Large Armor Repairer II Mission Specific Primary Hardener Mission Specific Primary Hardener Mission Specific Secondary Hardener Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Capacitor Power Relay II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Antimatter/Iridum Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Antimatter/Iridum Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Antimatter/Iridum Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Antimatter/Iridum Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Antimatter/Iridum Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I Large Sentry Damage Augmentor Large Sentry Damage Augmentor 5x Garde II 5x Warden II/Bouncer II/Curator II (depending on mission) 5x Hammerhead II 5x Hobgoblin II 5x Hornet II 5x Warrior II Sentry drones are just plain win. In a misson like Angel Extravaganza I take along a flight of Bouncer II's and Berserker II's, but only ever use the Berserkers when the ships get < 10km from you as that is the only time they will out-perform your sentries. If you feel your tank is somewhat low, you can swap out one of the Sentry Dmg Augmentors for a couple CCC's or ANP's, w/e you want. ____ If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan
GavinCapacitor	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:45:00 - [14] You did not say weather you are trying to afk or not. If non-afk: Way over-tanked imo. One LAR 3 or 4 hardeners, max. Cap should last about 5 minutes. Everything else use for gank. Manage your aggro and use eve survival. If afk: You've pretty much got it, just need better skills. In both cases: You need t2 drones. Also: sentries. Keep the railguns, train those skills (drone interfacing is the most important imo).
Rostabosta	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:49:00 - [15] I used to mission in a Domi...then I realized how much it sucks..at least for PvE. Otherwise I think your fit looks ok. I switched to amarr ships and can run missions twice as fast. I would recommend switching racial ships...shouldn't take that long if you have all your base skills done. If you only have armor tanking researched, then amarr would probably be your best bet, the abaddon is a monster. Other great thing is you can switch crystals instantly...no having to wait for reload. Just use your Domi until you can switch it out. Anyway, its really paid off for me and would highly recommend. If they ever fix gallante, then the domi will be nice for missions once again. Compare damage from a railgun to a beam laser...doesn't even compare in dps terms.
Din'stalor Alaric StarHunt	Posted - 2010.06.18 00:55:00 - [16] [Dominix, sansha pve] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Damage Control II True Sansha Large Armor Repairer Armor EM Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Drone Navigation Computer I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, EMP M Drone Link Augmentor I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Ogre II x5 Berserker II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Medium Armor Maintenance Bot II x5 this is what i use, tanks every level 4 with full room aggro, i run for gal navy. Ofc put in the correct hardners, this setup is for against sanshas for instance. Cap lasts just over 15mins for me and im doing 628dps.
MoeJoe Green Gallente Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.06.18 08:58:00 - [17] Why does almost every fit in this thread have a damage control?
Iamid Ichabod	Posted - 2010.06.18 14:43:00 - [18] Originally by: MoeJoe Green Why does almost every fit in this thread have a damage control? Speaking on the fit I provided, it's a low cap usage module and adds a hull buffer w/decent resist bonus to armor on a light tank/cap recharge fit in case a mistake/lag happens. But, you do have a point on it often being an over/mispent tank module for pve.
Irdia Freelancer	Posted - 2010.06.19 04:20:00 - [19] Originally by: MoeJoe Green Why does almost every fit in this thread have a damage control? When many an experienced player is giving advice, they like to advise 'Hull Tanking' and the DCU is best module for this.
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2010.06.19 18:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Rose Deathscythe Originally by: Mr Kidd [Dominix, New Setup 1] Capacitor Power Relay II Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I 5x hammerhead II 5x Ogre I 5x hobgoblin II I used an almost exact similar setup the other day for a lvl4 and my Domni got vaped in a few minutes after whole room auto-aggroed (kill the thief). Is this setup the problem or are there some mystical skills or tactics for the Domni I'm missing out on? I've notated Stop the Thief was tanked. Probably skills? Do you have armor compensation skills?
Jedue	Posted - 2010.06.19 18:54:00 - [21] Wow thanks for all the replies. So I've since gotten t2 lights and med's. I found a lvl4Q16 in a .5 I'm going to be working with so right now I'm grinding standings while my skills level. This is what I'm thinking about going with: [Dominix, Current, copy 2] Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer Domination Armor Thermic Hardener Domination Armor Thermic Hardener Domination Armor Kinetic Hardener Domination Armor Kinetic Hardener Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Optical Tracking Computer I, Tracking Speed Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 As my gunnery skills get higher I'll replace a hardener and a armor rig with a magstab and a sentry unit. The only thing I am worried about is if it is enough tank for lvl4's. As my skills arn't as high as I want them to be. EFT reports I have a cap stable 546dps racial tank, with 466 dps (including drones) and 830 volley. I'd also use antimatter and tungsten (for range) Thoughts?
Iso'Sami	Posted - 2010.06.21 19:07:00 - [22] Racial tank should be more than enough if u do your homework, manage aggro correctly. DPS is a little low, work on getting that up. Ogres are slow and have travel time to factor in, sentries are instant DPS and that 10-15second travel time can count for quite a lot of missed DPS.

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