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Suan Sanche
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Posted - 2010.06.07 12:06:00 -
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Hello.
I wonder what is the highest fps frigate in the game? T2/cheap faction fitted.
Daredevil seems to get over 300dps with regular modules. Is there any other ship that does more damage than this?
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2010.06.07 12:26:00 -
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bombers generally are high DPS ships. Purifiers reach easily 650DPS and more, if you equip it with high value ballistic controls and launchers 800-900 DPS are possible but the overall ship price would be insane.
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.06.07 12:37:00 -
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With regular weapons, daredevil
With battleship weapons and/or absurdly expensive fits, bombers. _________________________________
Originally by: Dodgy Past Can't see the Caldari approving of free love though.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.07 14:46:00 -
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A stealth bomber using bombs can actually have a higher dps than a titan (when there are enuff targets around).
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Kah Eli
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric
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Posted - 2010.06.07 15:17:00 -
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Enyo should rank quite high in this competition....
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Sonya Kranz
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Posted - 2010.06.07 15:44:00 -
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i think you can squeeze more dps out of a ishkur then an enyo, mostly thanks to the 5 light drones and neutron blasters.
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Amarrbone
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Posted - 2010.06.07 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Amarrbone on 07/06/2010 15:51:53 As far as EFT warrioring goes for max DPS several frig hulls (T2 and faction) can hit the 300+ DPS mark, but the fits are not practical. Bombers, of course, can do a fairly insane amount of paper DPS, but are designed to hit bigger things unless you dro pa bomb. If you are talking T1 hulls then you are looking somewhere in the nature of 150+ but again with impractical fits.
My Ratting Retribution for example does about 310 DPS, but just has a local repper and no additional tank mods.
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Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.06.07 16:01:00 -
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Navy Comet is capable of 300+ dps on a viable pvp fit. It's like a super-Taranis. I prefer rails on a DD (yes really) for complete control of a fight inside web range, although as pointed out it is also capable of monster dps when blaster fitted. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate' |

Captain Nares
O3 Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.07 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Nares on 07/06/2010 19:52:57 Over 1000 dps - bombers w/ torpedoes. Bombs - well, I don't think that they have any dps. They have just alpha and no rof :) 550 dps - blaster DD. Over 400 dps - Enyo Over 300 - lots of ships, like faction frigates, AFs, Taranis, and rail DD (~330 dps).
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar Reverse Psychology. HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.06.07 20:20:00 -
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technically a daredevil in a wolf rayet c6 wh can get 1007 dps but thatd be alot of isk with magstabs
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Rastigan
Caldari Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.06.08 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Nares Edited by: Captain Nares on 07/06/2010 19:52:57 Over 1000 dps - bombers w/ torpedoes. Bombs - well, I don't think that they have any dps. They have just alpha and no rof :) 550 dps - blaster DD. Over 400 dps - Enyo Over 300 - lots of ships, like faction frigates, AFs, Taranis, and rail DD (~330 dps).
Where are you making these numbers up ? Are you overheating with officer mods ?
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Ambrosious Martin
United Tactical Operations and Manufacturing Externus Hostis
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Posted - 2010.06.08 01:59:00 -
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[Enyo, beast] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Centii A-Type Reactive Plating
1MN Afterburner II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Warrior II x1
With over 300 DPS I actually fly this. Totals about 30mill.
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Kane Starkiller
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.08 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ambrosious Martin [Enyo, beast] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Centii A-Type Reactive Plating
1MN Afterburner II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Warrior II x1
With over 300 DPS I actually fly this. Totals about 30mill.
Good luck applying that dps to anything with an MWD 
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Deva Blackfire
Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.06.08 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Starkiller
Originally by: Ambrosious Martin [Enyo, beast] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Centii A-Type Reactive Plating
1MN Afterburner II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Warrior II x1
With over 300 DPS I actually fly this. Totals about 30mill.
Good luck applying that dps to anything with an MWD 
Damn i guess he actually can apply that damage to MWD ships 
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Kane Starkiller
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.08 09:05:00 -
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How many fights start in scram range, yeah not many. And since the biggest advantage of a frig is completely wiped out by the pathetic speed of an AB youÆre pretty much dead if you canÆt get it range. Since a nano BC is faster than that enyo (or and AB frig) kitting becomes child splay. HereÆs a perfect counter for that enyo BTW, if it somehow does manage to get into scram range, sick some light ecm, jam, get out of scram range and pop him :
[Ishkur, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Small Armor Repairer II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Warp Disruptor I Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Plutonium Charge S [empty high slot]
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I Small Hybrid Locus Coordinator I
Warrior II x5
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Suan Sanche
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Posted - 2010.06.08 10:42:00 -
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Awesome replies!
Didn't realise enyo could do that much dps. It seems now that it might be the right ship to the task I had in mind (dps/isk wise). Ishkur is also nice, but drones are too easy being probed when burning around with mwd...
What kind of DD fit can get over 550dps if Captain Nares can share that information?
Navy comet. Stuart Price can you specify what kind of fit you mean?
Thank you for providing insight!
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.06.08 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Fighter on 08/06/2010 10:53:56 any daredevil setup over 500 dps has no tank, faction stuff and is likly using best implants too.
250-300 dps is a realistic number for a DD with 2 damage mods.
[Daredevil, gank] Internal Force Field Array I Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Gistii A-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Dark Blood Warp Scrambler
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S [empty high slot]
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator II Small Trimark Armor Pump I [empty rig slot]
imps: ZGS1000 and pashans turret. 530 dps.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2010.06.08 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: arbiter reformed technically a daredevil in a wolf rayet c6 wh can get 1007 dps but thatd be alot of isk with magstabs
[Daredevil, EFT-TASTIC] Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer
[empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot]
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Some implants. C6 Wolf-Rayet or Magnetar.
959 DPS, 1103 DPS overloaded.

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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.06.08 11:29:00 -
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Calling the Blackbird a battleship is bad enough, now you guys are calling the Daredevil a Destroyer? Some Eve acronyms are better then others, and these two suck monkey balls.
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Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon Calling the Blackbird a battleship is bad enough, now you guys are calling the Daredevil a Destroyer? Some Eve acronyms are better then others, and these two suck monkey balls.
Battleship = BS Destroyer = Dessie
At least, that's what I've always used and in cases like this it seems to make more sense in cases like this.
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: James Tritanius on 08/06/2010 14:22:34
Originally by: Ninetails o'Cat
Originally by: Qui Shon Calling the Blackbird a battleship is bad enough, now you guys are calling the Daredevil a Destroyer? Some Eve acronyms are better then others, and these two suck monkey balls.
Battleship = BS Destroyer = Dessie
At least, that's what I've always used and in cases like this it seems to make more sense in cases like this.
BB and DD were the naval designations for Battleships and Destroyers respectively (in RL.)
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: James Tritanius Edited by: James Tritanius on 08/06/2010 14:22:34
Originally by: Ninetails o'Cat
Originally by: Qui Shon Calling the Blackbird a battleship is bad enough, now you guys are calling the Daredevil a Destroyer? Some Eve acronyms are better then others, and these two suck monkey balls.
Battleship = BS Destroyer = Dessie
At least, that's what I've always used and in cases like this it seems to make more sense in cases like this.
BB and DD were the naval designations for Battleships and Destroyers respectively (in RL.)
in eve: Battleship = BS Destroyer = Dessie
blackbird = BB daredevil = DD
shall we talk about how PDUs should be called PDSs too 
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Ramiera DaMorre
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: James Tritanius
BB and DD were the naval designations for Battleships and Destroyers respectively (in RL.)
That's dandy but you really shouldn't let your knowledge of RL lingo get in the way of ingame's.
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.06.08 14:57:00 -
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You guys do realize I was never the one who claimed you guys were calling daredevils destroyers and blackbirds battleships. I was simply trying to clear some confusion people may have regarding Qui Shon's post.
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Ramiera DaMorre
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Posted - 2010.06.08 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: James Tritanius You guys do realize I was never the one who claimed you guys were calling daredevils destroyers and blackbirds battleships. I was simply trying to clear some confusion people may have regarding Qui Shon's post.
Err, then consider my post redirected to the real culprit and accept this virtual, fat, plush pony as an apology. http://meisterider.com/images/Fat%20Albert%20Plush%20Fat%20Pony.JPG
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kingofallgimps
Minmatar 11th Gimp Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.08 16:10:00 -
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Very bored, so pretended to be a true eft warrior.
[Purifier, loleft] Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
[empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Estamel's Modified Siege Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Mjolnir Torpedo Estamel's Modified Siege Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Mjolnir Torpedo Estamel's Modified Siege Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Mjolnir Torpedo Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty rig slot] Small Bay Loading Accelerator II
with the 2 5% hardwirings to rof and damage, max skills, overloading and a C6 magnetar bonus, its 2534 dps.
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Lord Haur
Amarr Reaction Theory
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Posted - 2010.06.08 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: kingofallgimps Very bored, so pretended to be a true eft warrior.
[Purifier, loleft] Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
[empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Estamel's Modified Siege Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Mjolnir Torpedo Estamel's Modified Siege Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Mjolnir Torpedo Estamel's Modified Siege Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Mjolnir Torpedo Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty rig slot] Small Bay Loading Accelerator II
with the 2 5% hardwirings to rof and damage, max skills, overloading and a C6 magnetar bonus, its 2534 dps.
Do i win thread on a technicality?
  
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Ryle
Righteous-Indignation
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Posted - 2010.06.08 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kendon riddick
shall we talk about how PDUs should be called PDSs too 
Actually, PDU's are called that because years ago they were actually Power Diagnostic Unit Is, not Power Diagnostic System Is.
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Captain Nares
O3 Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.08 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rastigan
Where are you making these numbers up ? Are you overheating with officer mods ?
Well, no officer mods or WH effects.
550 dps is blaster DD with FN MFS x3, 5% hardwirings, T2 ROF rig, overload, DG AM etc. 329 dps is rail DD with FN MFS x2 etc. - sometimes I fly such one myself. Does 363 dps with 3rd FN MFS, but it becomes too slow without OD, so my fit has 2 MFS only. Blaster Taranis for 30 mil and T2 mods only can output over 330 dps. Many other T2 frigs (like Enyo, Wolf) break 300 dps barrier easily.
Tip: remember that 5% small hybrid dmg imp is crapcheap, use it even when your wallet is thin 
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.06.09 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ramiera DaMorre
Originally by: James Tritanius
BB and DD were the naval designations for Battleships and Destroyers respectively (in RL.)
That's dandy but you really shouldn't let your knowledge of RL lingo get in the way of ingame's.
Of course you should, at the very least remind folks every now and then of the most common uses of acronyms that clash with Eve's, when they're used on the same subject matter, in this case ship classes or types.
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Ramiera DaMorre
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Posted - 2010.06.09 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Of course you should, at the very least remind folks every now and then of the most common uses of acronyms that clash with Eve's, when they're used on the same subject matter, in this case ship classes or types.
My bad, maybe I'm just a freak who's lucky enough to be able to keep the game and RL vocabulary separate. 
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.06.09 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ramiera DaMorre My bad, maybe I'm just a freak who's lucky enough to be able to keep the game and RL vocabulary separate. 
I'm sure you are one, but were you aware that "Battleship" is a term used outside Eve? Alongside Cruiser, Destroyer, Frigate, Battlecruiser and so on? And are you further aware that they designate classes of vessels, much like they do in Eve! Amazing coincidence, isn't it?
This "vocabulary" isn't limited to RL either, but used in a variety of games.
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Hauling Hal
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Posted - 2010.06.09 19:10:00 -
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Best DPS Frigate in 0.0 is anything fitted with a Cyno.
:-)
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Ramiera DaMorre
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Posted - 2010.06.10 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
I'm sure you are one, but were you aware that "Battleship" is a term used outside Eve? Alongside Cruiser, Destroyer, Frigate, Battlecruiser and so on? And are you further aware that they designate classes of vessels, much like they do in Eve! Amazing coincidence, isn't it?
This "vocabulary" isn't limited to RL either, but used in a variety of games.
Are you aware of the fact that the original names aren't the issue here but the acronyms/abbreviations that are part of the Eve slang/lingo? (<- and this is an important part, don't ignore it) It is kinda irrelevant what other games' players call them or how they are abbreviated in RL when a specific group adopted specific terms to those for their own use.
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Captain Nares
O3 Corporation
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Posted - 2010.06.10 07:06:00 -
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Another tip for maximizing dps:
Burst Aerator II >> Collision Accelerator II
G-Delta hardwirings are also usually a bit better than CX.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.06.10 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ramiera DaMorre
Are you aware of the fact that the original names aren't the issue here but the acronyms/abbreviations that are part of the Eve slang/lingo? (<- and this is an important part, don't ignore it) It is kinda irrelevant what other games' players call them or how they are abbreviated in RL when a specific group adopted specific terms to those for their own use.
Are you such a fanatic that Eve is the only game you play? If so, you have my pity.
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Ramiera DaMorre
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Posted - 2010.06.10 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ramiera DaMorre on 10/06/2010 15:02:27
Originally by: Qui Shon
Are you such a fanatic that Eve is the only game you play? If so, you have my pity.
Mi a faszom?!  Your logic scares me. o.O No, really, how in the blazing hells did you deduce that? Eve is not the only, and by far not the most played game by me - and that's quite irrelevant here. I can't even see how would my tolerance towards the different groups' lingo fanatic... radical maybe.  I'm sure you heard this: when in Rome, do as the Romans do. In Eve, battleships are BS and daredevils are DD, so when I'm talking to Eve players about them or on the EVE forums, I'll call them BS and DD respectively (when feeling lazy). Simple, isn't? I could go against the current but that would only cause confusion. Most of the time, anyway. When talking to someone who does not play Eve I won't abbreviate of course. If I'd be in the navy or talking to someone about the RL navies then I'd use the appropriate abbreviations/terms accepted there. 
You see the difference, right? Or should I correct everyone here in my country just because hand pallets are called "frogs"? "You're doing it wrong, frogs are animals, stop eeet!" Puh-lease...
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.06.11 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ramiera DaMorre Simple, isn't? I could go against the current but that would only cause confusion. Most of the time, anyway.
Oh it's *simple* alright, as in you regarding the community as simpletons. It does nothing to combat ignorance. Going against the current in this manner is the only way to live, because it makes for a richer world for everyone.
Even if it was a byproduct of your fight to keep people ignorant, you've made this thread slightly more informative by including boomers/bombers and frogs in it, although it'd be better if they were on topic of course.
Hand pallets don't have much of a connection with Eve, but ship designations do. They're also part of a body of knowledge any player of tactical and/or strategic games should acquire over the years. The sooner the better.
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Ramiera DaMorre
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Posted - 2010.06.11 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Oh it's *simple* alright, as in you regarding the community as simpletons.
Oh man, you crack me up.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.06.11 11:33:00 -
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If you've run out of responses / energy and that's the best you can do then I win \o/

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Ramiera DaMorre
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Posted - 2010.06.11 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ramiera DaMorre on 11/06/2010 13:16:03 Edited by: Ramiera DaMorre on 11/06/2010 13:13:06
Originally by: Qui Shon If you've run out of responses / energy and that's the best you can do then I win \o/

Nah, I just have better things to do than repeat myself when it's clear you just try to annoy me.  At least I doubt at this point that you're _this_ stupid. :) (and besides we achieved a minor thread derail, so we both win :p)
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