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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:17:00 -
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Boring after an hour when you get the grasp of it.
Clickfest.
Most things are not worth making. ( plenty of stuff builded due to reprocessing deal and HUGE almost free npc stocks )
Thank you for this wonderfull expansion.
Oh did i mention lag ?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:21:00 -
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Your stuff, when you quit, my way, please, thankyouverymuch.
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:23:00 -
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And CCP cares what some Jita price checking alt things?
Seriously though... NPC orders will be removed, be patient. Right now, they allow players using PI to make a profit while still allowing the rest of us to fuel our POS with out issues. Once the orders are gone, there will be some whines about how you can't make enough off of PI, but it will all stabalize.
As for the boring and click fest, to each thier own. I would say being a price checking alt in Jita has to be rather droll too, yet you may differ. Still, some will enjoy this just as some enjoy mining, others ratting, mission running, PvP, etc. It's a sandbox world and someone will want to play with this aspect.
As for my personal opinion of PI... I started recently enough that I am still getting into the game. For me, PI is, well... a time to catch up. While other corps/alliance/characters are skilling up for PI, staking out planets, processing the loot, etc, I'm off using the time to catch up on my other training. My main is getting better at flying ships, my alt is getting better at BPO research and manufacturing ships. I glad PI came along though. While others focus on it, I can focus on catching up and being better in the areas of the game that I enjoy.
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ti''anla on 08/06/2010 18:34:44
So... all problems that'll eventually solve themselves (given NPC commodities will be removed once doing so won't mean killing 90% of all active POS's) bar the clickfest complaint, and even that's avoidable after initial deployment if you just focus on high level production, and buy lower level produce from market.
Yes, these are very serious complaints indeed.
My assessment? Nice little aside.
.. Bloody vicious isk sink, though, I'm already double the budget I assigned myself for initial development.
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Steeltongue
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:32:00 -
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"droll" does not mean "dull."
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Steeltongue
"droll" does not mean "dull."
Yes, it means:
having a humorous, whimsical, or odd quality.
And I stand by my use. Sitting in Jita would be humorous from all the contract scam spam and tears in response when the scams do work, and odd in that you sit in one location, doing nothing but check prices.
Still, whimsical, yeah that doesn't fit so much, but 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:48:00 -
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My feedback on this thread:
Boring after reading the first line.
Most posts aren't worth reading.
Had to click too many buttons to get out of it.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Nordir Industries
Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.08 18:54:00 -
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How is it a click fest? The way I see it, you set the extractor-processor-storage chain up, then move in to pick up free stuff every four days. Am I missing something?
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Steeltongue
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Posted - 2010.06.08 19:15:00 -
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As for the boring and click fest, to each thier own. I would say being a price checking alt in Jita has to be rather droll too, yet you may differ.
sorry guy, just accept correction humbly. it wasn't nearly as pedantic as it could have been.*
*"their"
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Messoroz
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Messoroz on 08/06/2010 20:20:52
It's only a clickfest to set it up, or so it was for me setting up 3 colonies.
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ti''anla on 08/06/2010 20:36:38
Originally by: Messoroz
Edited by: Messoroz on 08/06/2010 20:20:52
It's only a clickfest to set it up, or so it was for me setting up 3 colonies.
Exactly. Once a colony is running, it's just a matter of tweaking the thing now and then (How often being defined by A: whether you bother with extractors and B: how long you instruct those extractors to cycle for each time).
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.06.08 20:49:00 -
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Well, the colonies are fine once set up depending on your tolerance level. The UI wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. We won't know if it's worth it or what is best to manufacture for some time though. Supply and demand should deal with that eventually unless its bottable or very low end stuff many will try just for the fun of it rather than profit.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.08 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Nordir
How is it a click fest? The way I see it, you set the extractor-processor-storage chain up, then move in to pick up free stuff every four days. Am I missing something?
Having to rescan and reposition the extractors every now and then. |
Carolina Legeres
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Posted - 2010.06.08 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia
Seriously though... NPC orders will be removed, be patient. Right now, they allow players to stock up on everything they need for a long time for very low prices, so they don't have to pay the very expensive prices, that players dealing with PI are going to ask for.
I fixed that for you. The alt is somewhat right, after looking at some of the production chains and even setting one up for robotics that needs maintenance once a day to keep being saturated.
An advanced command center with 17,000MW output allows you to easily setup 16 extractors, a launchpad and a bar for booze and hookers. With the links I've set up it uses 93.49% of the powergrid, CPU seems to be of no concern. If I feel like restarting them every half an hour, the links will support the volume. I'm uncertain if Planetology raises the output of the extractors but I certainly hope so, we'll see.
The actual production chain consisting of 8 basic facilities producing just enough to keep 5 advanced facilities fed, two for each, mechanical parts and consumer electronics, which feed the final robotics manufacturing facility. Tighly set up it uses 67.85% of the powergrid, enough to support two maybe more tier 1 chains (Oxygen for example if you product on a gas giant).
3 units of robotics per hour for two advanced centers, assuming a price of 7k per unit, makes 21k ISK per hour. Woohoo! Minus transfer fees paid to the customs office and market fees and taxes and time spent hauling.
Please tell me this is about the level of income you expected from PI on a nullsec planet. It fuels three towers, right, and it shifts the logistics, but it's far from being worth blowing two command centers on, in my opinion. Let alone the time spent on it. A poor beltrat spawn pays for the amount of robotics in much less time 
Unless, of course, I'm missing something. Please point it out.
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Lord Helghast
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Posted - 2010.06.08 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
How is it a click fest? The way I see it, you set the extractor-processor-storage chain up, then move in to pick up free stuff every four days. Am I missing something?
Having to rescan and reposition the extractors every now and then.
you dont need to reposition extractors, if you are YOUR DOING IT WRONG... drop a extractor or 2 on each hotspot, and let them cycle, when their cycle is over... CYCLE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!11
The only reason to move a extractor is if you went and dumped 15 extractors on 1 hotspot and ran 15x1 hour cycles and drained the damn spot, but even then it will refill over time and u can extract again...
people that are doing 30 minute cycles draining a spot and relocation all of them again to kill the entire planet are shooting themselves in the foot for extractor costs and all the clicking for nuthing.
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SamGromoff
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2010.06.08 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: SamGromoff on 08/06/2010 21:30:58
Originally by: Carolina Legeres
3 units of robotics per hour for two advanced centers, assuming a price of 7k per unit, makes 21k ISK per hour. Woohoo! Minus transfer fees paid to the customs office and market fees and taxes and time spent hauling.
Please tell me this is about the level of income you expected from PI on a nullsec planet.
It's not, because:
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Unless, of course, I'm missing something. Please point it out.
If you just bought the subcomponents from NPC sell orders and used the entire powergrid/CPU of your command center to process the subcomponents into robotics, then sell the robotics to NPC buy orders, you would make roughly 300k isk per hour per planet.
(PI is badly thought out garbage)
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.06.08 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Helghast
people that are doing 30 minute cycles draining a spot and relocation all of them again to kill the entire planet are shooting themselves in the foot for extractor costs and all the clicking for nuthing.
āand then there's the issue of having more people on the planetā
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