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Naz Mort
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Posted - 2010.06.09 17:17:00 -
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Hi all,
I am having trouble getting EVE to run in a stable fashion on Ubuntu 10.04 with the ATI drivers for the 4850. After 2-3 days of hair-pulling I got it to install and run, and yet I get machine lockups from time to time. I am done with ATI to be very honest.
I am ready to invest in a new video card - ATI be damned!
Question is:
Which Nvidia video card to get?
What I am looking for is
1. relatively painless eve install and setup
2. the best performance possible with around $150 available for spending.
Also:
Do Vent and TS work with wine,or how do you pvp with linux+ voice comms. Not interested in getting EVE voice working, at all.
This (EVE) is the last thing that is keeping my WIndows installation alive, so all help is appreciated.
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Xianthar
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.06.09 19:51:00 -
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for the video card i would look at a GTS250 or try to find a cheap deal on a GTX260 (which is what i have).
For vent, there is a native linux client called mangler that works very well and does a much better job with audio processing than the official vent client IMO.
Some also use mumble for voice comes which has a native linux client (as well as mac and windows clients) and honestly mumble voice quality kills vent or TS due to better audio processing, noise reduction and echo canceling.
There are native TS2 and TS3 linux clients. The TS3 client works much better as the TS2 client is really old and only supports OSS i believe. It seems to work OK if you launch it with padsp other than the general issue that TS2 sound quality is terrible on all OS's.
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Lothris Andastar
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Posted - 2010.06.09 20:43:00 -
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Naz, Update to catalyst 10.5
That fixes almost every single lockup for me on my 5750.
Remember to disable eve voice and rename the jukebox folder too!
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.06.09 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sevarus James on 09/06/2010 21:04:37
 Originally by: Naz Mort
Hi all,
Question is:
Which Nvidia video card to get?
What I am looking for is
1. relatively painless eve install and setup
2. the best performance possible with around $150 available for spending.
Also:
Do Vent and TS work with wine,or how do you pvp with linux+ voice comms. Not interested in getting EVE voice working, at all.
Answers:
1. Nvidia GTX260 or better. The 260 is a great choice and does the job quite well, and can be found for around that price if you look online a bit.
2. Vent works via wine, but takes some elbow grease to get running properly. TS just released the version 3 of their client and both ts2 AND ts3 both have native linux clients, but ts3 is the way to go as ts2 had some issues with alsa/oss/pulse (iirc).
The nice part of this is that after installing the nvidia card, and using jockey to install the nvidia drivers, EVE shouldn't require any tweaking beyond normal preferences to run. (meaning: no reinstall of the client.)
Also, EVE voice works just fine with ubuntu 10.04. The jukebox issue is a simple fix of course.
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Lolmer
Amarr
Asteroids Anonymous
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Posted - 2010.06.10 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lolmer on 10/06/2010 01:25:44
My wife's laptop has nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTX 285M] (rev a2) and can run EVE at 20-40fps with every graphics option enabled at 1920x1200. :) My nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300M GS] (rev a1) can run EVE at 10-30fps at 1680x1050 with almost all the graphics settings turned down/off. Yes, these are the mobile (laptop) versions.
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Naz Mort
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Posted - 2010.06.10 20:29:00 -
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I tried again with catalyst 10.5
My problem is that the first time I am able to log in fine. Thereafter, whenever I try to log in, I get stuck at around 75-80% of the Entering Game As Character Name progress bar. At this point, the whole computer gets stuck and all I can do is ssh in to restart, or force a restart by power cycling.
Anyways, I guess its off to Nvidia land for me. ATI Radeon 4850 let me down.
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.10 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Naz Mort
I tried again with catalyst 10.5
My problem is that the first time I am able to log in fine. Thereafter, whenever I try to log in, I get stuck at around 75-80% of the Entering Game As Character Name progress bar. At this point, the whole computer gets stuck and all I can do is ssh in to restart, or force a restart by power cycling.
Anyways, I guess its off to Nvidia land for me. ATI Radeon 4850 let me down.
Naz:
Ensure you have Wine set to XP mode.
Are you using more than one account? If you are, you need to install each account to a different wine prefix. The cache sometimes gets corrupted and causes what is happing to you
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Naz Mort
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Posted - 2010.06.11 05:24:00 -
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Thank you for the pointers.
I reinstalled eve after deleting .wine altogether.
I did the regedit changes, rename the Jukebox, and made sure prefs.ini was fine.
Again, I can log in fine the first time, and everytime I try to log in after that - I get stuck at 80% of the "Entering Game as Naz Mort" progress bar. CPU usage skyrockets, and everything is stuck until I ssh in a kill the bad processes.
Yup, another 6-8 hours wasted today. If my real life job is anything to go by, I could have bought many Nvidia cards in the time I've spent on getting this to work already.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2010.06.11 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Solbright on 11/06/2010 12:39:39
Very odd behavior but not unheard of. A couple years back I remember this happening to everyone all at once. I can't remember offhand why or what was done about it other than maybe a cache clearing each time the game was started.
EDIT: Ah, maybe the first copy of the client hasn't exited and it's upsetting your second attempt ...
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Naz Mort
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Posted - 2010.06.11 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Solbright
Edited by: Solbright on 11/06/2010 12:39:39
Very odd behavior but not unheard of. A couple years back I remember this happening to everyone all at once. I can't remember offhand why or what was done about it other than maybe a cache clearing each time the game was started.
EDIT: Ah, maybe the first copy of the client hasn't exited and it's upsetting your second attempt ...
1. Trying to log off and log in again, without killing the client fails
2. Even when I try to quit the game, then kill all the wine/explorer related processes and attempt to start a new client and login, it fails in the same way.
My searching did lead to some history of such problems, but as far as I could tell, they were related to a server issue and Jita, or some such.
Wish I had an nvidia card to try out and see if it bugs out the same way.
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2010.06.11 15:56:00 -
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Best find so far - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1019608 which concluded that deleting Eve's prefs.ini was a workaround.
However, reading more recent posts it looks more likely your catalyst 10.5 hasn't installed properly. You can verify this by setting backbuffer mode again.
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Naz Mort
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Posted - 2010.06.11 20:29:00 -
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Yeah - I am already using backbuffer mode, along with UseGLSL, and VideoMemorySize. Tried deleting the prefs.ini once too. No good.
As for the video driver - it's installed fine - fired up amdcccle and checked stuff - everything's hunky dory - can get dual screens set up, etc.
If it wasn't for eve, I'd get me some compiz love.
Thank you for your help, you rock!
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crazyr2
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.12 23:10:00 -
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I also had "loading character" lock up on Arch x64 - mostly after a log off/log on. As I didn't have it at the beginning before messing around (I also had an annoying screen flicker when going to the settings screen I was trying to get rid of) I'm sure its some setting that causes this but unsure to which one.
I gave up in the end  and went with 32bit Arch, which so far has worked with a lot less hassle (for me!).
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Naz Mort
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Posted - 2010.06.22 23:43:00 -
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Follow up - got an Nvidia GTX 260 card from EVGA, and everything is PERFECT. Even better performance than I had on Windows 7, and my fans aren't spinning as loudly as they used to on Windows.
What can I say! Linux rocks! (Ask long as proprietary drivers for closed-door proprietary hardware devices plays nice.)
I tried using Mangler for Vent, and that seems to work okay too.
Thanks all.
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