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Your Client	Posted - 2010.06.09 23:21:00 - [1] if i have an extractor routed to processor; and in between the route i have a storage, will the excess be put in the storage? or do i have to route all extractors to the storage then wait for the storage to get some items then link to the processor?
Nuadi	Posted - 2010.06.09 23:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Your Client or do i have to route all extractors to the storage then wait for the storage to get some items then link to the processor? ^^ This
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.06.09 23:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Your Client do i have to route all extractors to the storage then wait for the storage to get some items then link to the processor? This. Always go from extractor to storage then processor unless you want to lose materials.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.06.09 23:26:00 - [4] However, you don't need to wait for stuff to accrue in the storage/launchpad... you can route the incoming stuff to a factory from the route tab directly. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Your Client	Posted - 2010.06.09 23:41:00 - [5] Originally by: Akita T However, you don't need to wait for stuff to accrue in the storage/launchpad... you can route the incoming stuff to a factory from the route tab directly. so i can route a brand new extractor straight to a processor with a storage in between (not routing extractor to storage then routing storage to processor); and any extra extractants that dont fit into the processor will back up into the storage?
Shadow Wind	Posted - 2010.06.09 23:41:00 - [6] How does the storage unit know when to send material to the processor when you make the route? let's say I have 10 extractors routing to 1 storage unit does the storage unit know only to route materials to the processor when the processor is ready for more? (keep in mind that each extractor is routing to the storage unit at different intervals from eachother but all at 30 minutes.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.06.09 23:49:00 - [7] Edited by: Akita T on 09/06/2010 23:52:30 Originally by: Your Client Originally by: Akita T However, you don't need to wait for stuff to accrue in the storage/launchpad... you can route the incoming stuff to a factory from the route tab directly. so i can route a brand new extractor straight to a processor with a storage in between (not routing extractor to storage then routing storage to processor) No. You DO route from extractors to storage/launchpad, and then from storage/launchpad to factory. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT for the extractor to extract anything, because you can route immediately from the storage "route list" to the factory as soon as you finished routing from the extractor to the storage. Quote: and any extra extractants that dont fit into the processor will back up into the storage? Yes. No. Well, sort of. They don't "back up" into the storage, they won't leave the storage at all in the first place in that case. Originally by: Shadow Wind How does the storage unit know when to send material to the processor when you make the route? The storage only sends stuff until the factory queue is full (i.e. cycle started and queue for next cycle is full), then it waits until it's no longer full, then it fills it back up, and so on until it runs out of stuff in storage. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Kaara	Posted - 2010.06.10 00:02:00 - [8] As those above me have said: Extractor -> Storage -> Processor Most efficient use of extracted resources. Extractor -> Processor -> Storage This is only effective if the extraction rate is lower then the required 3000 unit/30 min From the extractor you route to the storage unit. Then from the storage unit you route to the processor. The storage unit will send resources from itself to the processor UNTIL there is 3000 units in that processor (additional 3000 for the 'wait' queue if the processor is active). NO wasted resources doing this.
Awlton Stueen	Posted - 2010.06.10 00:02:00 - [9] Quote: No. You DO route from extractors to storage/launchpad, and then from storage/launchpad to factory. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT for the extractor to extract anything, because you can route immediately from the storage "route list" to the factory as soon as you finished routing from the extractor to the storage. Thanks for the tip.
John Cant	Posted - 2010.06.10 10:10:00 - [10] My routing is always 2e for each bp I plan to use, routed to the storage then out to the bf. Then route the products from the bf back to the storage and onto the af and so on.... Just to reiterate (and I fell foul of this as I thought I had to wait for the resources to be in the stores) you can route from e to s,then goto the routes page in the storage, clock on the inbound base resource, create route and click on the processor. Routing then is setup without having to wait fo the resources. Note:- you will need to setup the processors first of all (and the routing of their output as well as best practice) so the processors are setup to accept th inbound routes. JC
John Cant	Posted - 2010.06.10 10:23:00 - [11] Plus, always use storage as a buffer as it allows you to run the extractors at minimum cycle time if you need a boost of resources or want to stockpile/export etc. You should gear up your lines to use 23 hr extractor runs as these give best efficiency it seems for input vs storage vs outputs. JC
Valhallas New Eden Robotics	Posted - 2010.06.10 10:41:00 - [12] Hi, I have been using - extractor > store > BIF, where there is a risk of overloading a BIF with too many extractors.(12 felsic magma extractors hammering one BIF) But where I only have 2 or 3 extractors for a resource on longer cycles, I have been using - extractor > BIF > store. My question is - if I have a BIF that is currently idle and has 95% in the input bucket. Then an extractor directly feeds it another 10% worth of rescource, there is 5% more than is required to start the processor, so do you get the 5% added to the input bucket for the next cycle, OR is it lost? Is there a PI acronym list? I only know BIF and PI
nexOS Tek Amarr Rennfeuer	Posted - 2010.06.10 11:02:00 - [13] You can simply route the output of your extractors to a storage (or launch pad), route it to the factories from there and route the output of the factories back to the storage, so if you have a storage in there anyway just use it. The only exception would be if your links can not handle that amount of material, but this shouldn't be an issue before P3 und P4 products.
Xearal Minmatar SOL Industries Kamikaze Project	Posted - 2010.06.10 11:16:00 - [14] Cache cleared.
TheBlueMonkey Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.10 11:16:00 - [15] So, hyperthetically, what happens if one were to go extractor > store > store > store > store > ??? > profit would one store slowly fill up and then the next and the next and the next? Which would fill up first? Could I then delete all links and routes and point each one at a different factory? further more what happens if I go extractor a > extractor b > store > store > store > store extractor c > that's three extractors grabbing different mats going into one store that then links\routes to a chain of stores. would each one hold something different and just fill each store till it's full of one type of resource and then the first one that's full gets the 4th store. or does it mix in the stores or does it just not work TELL THE MONKEY OVERLORD NOW!!! -- Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
Dan Kaneda	Posted - 2010.06.10 11:20:00 - [16] You can't route a storage to another one, you have to use the expedited transfer for that. However i don't know what happens if you directly link your extractor to the last of the chain.
Lividicus Caldari Caldari Provisions - PvP Division	Posted - 2010.06.10 11:23:00 - [17] I only use slow long-term extractions, so i route ext => proc => launchpad. I'm not really getting into it hardcore, ill just wait for the spaceport to fill up with garbage processed mats and then sell them off for supplemental income. If you are looking to make isk micromanaging things then do as suggested above.
Robau	Posted - 2010.06.10 11:53:00 - [18] Edited by: Robau on 10/06/2010 11:54:39 As said before you cant route from one storage structure to another storage structure you can only link them together and do expedited transfers. It would be better to add more processors and just process your extracted material faster. one of the most efficient methods I have found of extracting and processing as much minerals as possible is to: Planet 1 and 2: 10x extractors > 2x storage > 6 x basic processors > launch pad > expedite material_X to cargo Planet 3 and 4: 10x extractors > 2x storage > 6 x basic processors > launch pad > expedite material_Y to cargo Planet 5: Import Material X and Material Y > Launch Pad > 2 x storage > 12x Advanced Processors > Launch Pad > expedite Material_Z to cargo You can run the processors at 100% 24/7 dependent upon planet resources and spend 10mins every 24hrs restarting the extractors and transferring the materials.
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc SRS.	Posted - 2010.06.10 12:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Kaara As those above me have said: Extractor -> Storage -> Processor Most efficient use of extracted resources. Extractor -> Processor -> Storage This is only effective if the extraction rate is lower then the required 3000 unit/30 min From the extractor you route to the storage unit. Then from the storage unit you route to the processor. The storage unit will send resources from itself to the processor UNTIL there is 3000 units in that processor (additional 3000 for the 'wait' queue if the processor is active). NO wasted resources doing this. Incorrect. Let say I setup a coloney like this E1 \ S--P / E2 E1 extracts less than 3000 units E2 extracts more than 3000 units At some point, the Processor will wait until they have enough E1 material, in the mean time E2 will stack up while waiting and is lost. Store
Sierra Grook Caldari	Posted - 2010.06.10 13:23:00 - [20] OP In an Extractor -> Storage -> Processor chain, if you route Extractor product directly to Processor any excess will not be stored in the Storage. Wasted. What you must do in PI is setup every single little thing because the system isn't built smart, at all. tl;dr This means: Extractor product -> Storage then another route: Storage -> Processor
Bataav Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.10 13:56:00 - [21] I use the extractor > storage > factory > back to storage method too but instead of starting everything at the same time I've waited to build up between 6000 and 9000 units after extraction before starting the production stage. This way there is never a shortfall for the production to halt and while there might be an overall reduction in extracted resources this can be managed through choosing different extraction rates.
Zerlat	Posted - 2010.06.10 15:26:00 - [22] Edited by: Zerlat on 10/06/2010 15:27:29 Best not to use storage at all, or better said not the storage facility. I only use the launchpad and the CC as warehouse. As long as your links are not overloaded. It takes to much power, which you can use for another processor or extractor. Extractor - launch pad - processor - launchpad - advanced processor - ...

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