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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.10 06:05:00 -
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To insta lock a cloaky hauler what kind of scan res am i gunna need Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |

Thingymawotzit
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.06.10 06:22:00 -
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I would have replied with a useful answer but then i saw your sig...... - - -
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.06.10 06:25:00 -
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is 3500 scan resolution enough to lock a cloaky t2 hauler before they can cloak or do i need higher
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Headerman
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Posted - 2010.06.10 07:47:00 -
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A prayer/common sense
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Athena Silk
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.06.10 09:21:00 -
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Only way you're going to lock a cloaky hauler is if he lags, and even then, you're fighting against your own lag and reaction speed.
In low sec, you're only really going to catch one with a very lucky (and very fast) interceptor who already has logistics repping him. You basically have on average about 3-4 seconds to fly to him, decloak and then get a lock and point before the BR is in warp (even with a max cargo fit), and the logistics is needed to stop gate guns from popping the intie before someone can get a secondary point on him.
In 0.0 it's easier providing you have a bubbler, but you still need a fast (and preferably sensor boosted) interceptor or dramiel to run him down and lock before he gets out of the bubble. Max cargo fit BRs are usually rarer in 0.0, and you'll find most of them will be running with speed and agility rigs and lows, so you really do have to be pretty fast.
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Mike712
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Posted - 2010.06.10 09:29:00 -
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I've seen this lock stealth bombers before they can cloak, if you're on the ball a hauler should be easy.
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Regis Nex
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Posted - 2010.06.10 10:02:00 -
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0.0? Get slings. Jettison a few cans on it, from incoming gate direction. Wait for em to come. Get a quick target locker. Dont forget to use drones to sweep the area.
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Captain Merkin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:27:00 -
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What Regis says... only I have been told for what I would consider reliable sources that drones no longer decloak?
My previous tactics would be to have groups spread out round the gate and assign drones to nearest pilot to the cloaker and they would move towards and uncloak them with luck. Hopefully its not true about drones no longer decloaking as cloakers have an easy time already.
Sometimes you get one that panics and burns for the gate and dies to session timer, but thats rare indeed.
Originally by: Regis Nex 0.0? Get slings. Jettison a few cans on it, from incoming gate direction. Wait for em to come. Get a quick target locker. Dont forget to use drones to sweep the area.
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AdZc
Caldari Legio Prima Victrix
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Posted - 2010.06.10 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: AdZc on 10/06/2010 13:08:18
Originally by: Captain Merkin What Regis says... only I have been told for what I would consider reliable sources that drones no longer decloak?
Surely that cant be true? U de-cloak when within 2km of an object? If a container can decloak you i dont see why drones cant?
Same with scanner probes, i try to cloak after launching probes and wen they too close i get the error that i cant cloak because im within 2km of the probe.
edit - typos ftw! --------------------------- Shipoopi!
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Captain Merkin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.10 14:59:00 -
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Have been told that they no longer count as an object! Yet to test it however.
Originally by: AdZc Edited by: AdZc on 10/06/2010 13:08:18
Originally by: Captain Merkin What Regis says... only I have been told for what I would consider reliable sources that drones no longer decloak?
Surely that cant be true? U de-cloak when within 2km of an object? If a container can decloak you i dont see why drones cant?
Same with scanner probes, i try to cloak after launching probes and wen they too close i get the error that i cant cloak because im within 2km of the probe.
edit - typos ftw!
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.12 10:23:00 -
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They don't decloak, and pro br pilots like myself have lookouts bookmarked on every gate for my most used routes and a cov ops scouting for when its a particularly dangerous route.
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Haary
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Posted - 2010.06.12 11:23:00 -
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You CANNOT I repeat CANNOT target ANYTHING that warps cloaked unless that very pilot fcks up. You can pull a 10k scan res. your still not able to lock it if that very cloaky warping ship does what he/she needs to do.
Aparently dropping a fcktonne of drones around the gate is not implemented as an exploit according to CCP, cans are an exploit if Im not mistaking.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.06.12 18:33:00 -
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Your only real chance is to use the potential exploit of filling the area around the the gate with trash to decloak. Ive heard that it works but I have yet to be caught by it even though Ive ran camps that were attempting it.
Or the cloaker could screw up/lag.
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1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.06.12 19:19:00 -
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bubbles work well where you can use em
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.06.12 20:53:00 -
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And for maximum bubble effectiveness you want to have the bubble go active right after the cloaker starts to align.
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Bishop Bob
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Posted - 2010.06.12 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Bishop Bob on 12/06/2010 21:06:39
Originally by: Haary You CANNOT I repeat CANNOT target ANYTHING that warps cloaked unless that very pilot fcks up. You can pull a 10k scan res. your still not able to lock it if that very cloaky warping ship does what he/she needs to do.
Aparently dropping a fcktonne of drones around the gate is not implemented as an exploit according to CCP, cans are an exploit if Im not mistaking.
This, because the pilot will have hit his cloak button before he appears on your screen, so even though you can see him you won't be able to lock.
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