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Nihassa
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.17 08:36:00 -
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I have just noticed that monthly subs have changed from -ú10 and month to -ú16, and with it the obvious cost of a plex.
When did this happen??!
I would imagine there should have been some sort of a discussion about it somewhere as it seem quite a significant change in price.
Is there a Dev blog or official statement to provide some light on why it was necessary, let alone an email to tell you what is going on.
Any help or info would be much appreciated.
-Nih |

Nirnias Stirrum
Insidious Design
234
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Posted - 2012.07.17 08:39:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28599 Subscription= 9.99 Plex prices = 16.99. |

Marley Olacar
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.07.17 08:40:00 -
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If this is the case, and CCP failed to inform people with recurring subscriptions, i do believe a court case may be in order  |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
88
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Posted - 2012.07.17 08:45:00 -
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Nihassa wrote:I have just noticed that monthly subs have changed from -ú10 and month to -ú16, That sounds... unlikely.
The Invulnerability Sphere:Make mining/industrial vessels defendable, better fights for everyone! |

Nihassa
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.17 08:46:00 -
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Cheers for the link Nirnias, I must have got them mistaken, i had always thought that the cost of a monthly sub, was the same as a plex as they perform the same desired effects more or less.
-Nih |

Dardoign
Mine n Mellow
35
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Posted - 2012.07.17 08:49:00 -
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Could this be due to a fluctuation in the exchange rate? Let me know if you find out cos I know that England is rapidly going down the tubes but my inherritance is vested there so it may be important to me ;) |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
188
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Posted - 2012.07.17 08:50:00 -
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plex has always cost more than subscriptions. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |

Marley Olacar
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.17 08:57:00 -
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Dardoign wrote:Could this be due to a fluctuation in the exchange rate? Let me know if you find out cos I know that England is rapidly going down the tubes but my inherritance is vested there so it may be important to me ;)
The price of Gold never changes, maybe time to convert all into gold :D |

Nihassa
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.17 09:04:00 -
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Marley Olacar wrote:Dardoign wrote:Could this be due to a fluctuation in the exchange rate? Let me know if you find out cos I know that England is rapidly going down the tubes but my inherritance is vested there so it may be important to me ;) The price of Gold never changes, maybe time to convert all into gold :D
I hear AUR is a pretty stable investment, no one ever seems to use it anyway... |

Dardoign
Mine n Mellow
35
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Posted - 2012.07.17 09:04:00 -
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The price of EvEs subscriptions is perhaps the reason why there are never more than 50K online. We get addicted and there is nothing that we wouldn't pay to play. But then we get burned out and start to weigh the cost against enjoyment. The ones who made the ISK still keep their accounts valid by use of plex, never play, but acidly visit the forum regularly to spew spite and dissatisfaction. Others go on to play different games. Eve is expensive I agree.
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Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
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Posted - 2012.07.17 09:49:00 -
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Yes, the discount break for a year subscription is substantial and cost the same as 6 PLEX since the multi-PLEX discounts are not as impressive. Then again I somewhat personally regret buying a year subscription since I am already making enough to buy PLEX with ISK. One year is a very long time, and the one year package is probably best for the casual EVE player. |

Gravitas Moque
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.07.17 09:53:00 -
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Eve is not expensive.
-ú9.99 per month, I play 5 nights per week , usually for a couple of hours per night , so 40 hours per month = 24p per hour
Single trip to cinema with my wife = -ú8.90 just for my ticket. film approx 2.5 hours = -ú3.56 per hour |

Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.07.17 10:12:00 -
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Dardoign wrote:The price of EvEs subscriptions is perhaps the reason why there are never more than 50K online. We get addicted and there is nothing that we wouldn't pay to play. But then we get burned out and start to weigh the cost against enjoyment. The ones who made the ISK still keep their accounts valid by use of plex, never play, but acidly visit the forum regularly to spew spite and dissatisfaction. Others go on to play different games. Eve is expensive I agree.
looool you are sooo right CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
88
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Posted - 2012.07.17 10:13:00 -
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Why would anyone buy PLEX with -ú when you can buy them for dollars at shatteredcrystal and similar US sites? It's a lot cheaper. The Invulnerability Sphere:Make mining/industrial vessels defendable, better fights for everyone! |

Effect One
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
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Posted - 2012.07.17 10:22:00 -
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Marley Olacar wrote:Dardoign wrote:Could this be due to a fluctuation in the exchange rate? Let me know if you find out cos I know that England is rapidly going down the tubes but my inherritance is vested there so it may be important to me ;) The price of Gold never changes, maybe time to convert all into gold :D
Erm...no. The weight of the gold you own never changes unless you buy more or sell stock. The price of gold fluctuates on a very rapid basis.
If it didn't move how would people, myself included, make money on the side? |

Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.17 10:50:00 -
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Nihassa wrote:Cheers for the link Nirnias, I must have got them mistaken, i had always thought that the cost of a monthly sub, was the same as a plex as they perform the same desired effects more or less.
-Nih
PLEX have always been higher, it's just the differnce between them has grown since they reduced the monthly sub and got rid of the need to use an exchange rate.
Looking at an old bill of mine:
Month sub 14.95 Euros = -ú12.81 (exchange rate at that time)
2 PLEX 34.99 Euros = -ú29.71
With the price you quoted earlier sounds like PLEX are still in Euros. I'll have to check that out later. |

WrATH2Zero
Overloard Legion
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:06:00 -
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Gravitas Moque wrote:Eve is not expensive.
-ú9.99 per month, I play 5 nights per week , usually for a couple of hours per night , so 40 hours per month = 24p per hour
Single trip to cinema with my wife = -ú8.90 just for my ticket. film approx 2.5 hours = -ú3.56 per hour
The world doesn't revolve around you though and not everyone plays the game that much. -ú9.99 per mouth is expensive and CCP try to sweeten it with deals. This is the problem with companies now days, deals are the only thing that give the impression that their prices are cheap. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
352
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:17:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Dardoign wrote:The price of EvEs subscriptions is perhaps the reason why there are never more than 50K online. We get addicted and there is nothing that we wouldn't pay to play. But then we get burned out and start to weigh the cost against enjoyment. The ones who made the ISK still keep their accounts valid by use of plex, never play, but acidly visit the forum regularly to spew spite and dissatisfaction. Others go on to play different games. Eve is expensive I agree.
looool you are sooo right.... eve is not worth paying with rl $$, too many bugs, broken stuff and gm favourism... (the only reson i still play is cause i have too much isk) So spinning ships does give you isk after all! EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |

Gravitas Moque
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:32:00 -
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WrATH2Zero wrote:Gravitas Moque wrote:Eve is not expensive.
-ú9.99 per month, I play 5 nights per week , usually for a couple of hours per night , so 40 hours per month = 24p per hour
Single trip to cinema with my wife = -ú8.90 just for my ticket. film approx 2.5 hours = -ú3.56 per hour The world doesn't revolve around you though and not everyone plays the game that much. -ú9.99 per mouth is expensive and CCP try to sweeten it with deals. This is the problem with companies now days, deals are the only thing that give the impression that their prices are cheap.
Even if I only played a couple of hours per week = 8 hours per monh = -ú1.24 per hour is not expensive.
How cheap do you want it to be? don't get me wrong, I like a bargain as much as the next guy, but I'm just not understanding how -ú9.99 per month is expensive.
cheap night out on the town would cost way more than that, even if you didn't go to a club and got the bus to town and back .
hell, I spend more than that per month on sandwiches for lunch! |

Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:38:00 -
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Gravitas Moque wrote:WrATH2Zero wrote:Gravitas Moque wrote:Eve is not expensive.
-ú9.99 per month, I play 5 nights per week , usually for a couple of hours per night , so 40 hours per month = 24p per hour
Single trip to cinema with my wife = -ú8.90 just for my ticket. film approx 2.5 hours = -ú3.56 per hour The world doesn't revolve around you though and not everyone plays the game that much. -ú9.99 per mouth is expensive and CCP try to sweeten it with deals. This is the problem with companies now days, deals are the only thing that give the impression that their prices are cheap. Even if I only played a couple of hours per week = 8 hours per monh = -ú1.24 per hour is not expensive. How cheap do you want it to be? don't get me wrong, I like a bargain as much as the next guy, but I'm just not understanding how -ú9.99 per month is expensive. cheap night out on the town would cost way more than that, even if you didn't go to a club and got the bus to town and back . hell, I spend more than that per month on sandwiches for lunch!
Think he only pulled you up on it because you were using your circumstances as a general argument.
EvE is not expensive to me, but it is to some people. |
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Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
218
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:38:00 -
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Gravitas Moque wrote:don't get me wrong, I like a bargain as much as the next guy, but I'm just not understanding how -ú9.99 per month is expensive
It is -ú2.49/month more than my unlimited* broadband connection which provides a good deal more/varied entertainment than Eve.
Now I'm not complaining about Eve costing -ú9.99/month, I'm simply giving you an example why people consider it expensive.
*and yes it IS unlimited otherwise I wouldn't have been able to download 82GB yesterday without any traffic shaping/limiting  |

Nirnias Stirrum
Insidious Design
236
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:44:00 -
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Marley Olacar wrote:If this is the case, and CCP failed to inform people with recurring subscriptions, i do believe a court case may be in order  Just checked the pricing scheme posted above... WHAT TEH **** IS CCP SMOKING?!?!?!?! SERIOUSLY!!!!!! -ú9.99 for 1 month game time........... -ú16.99 for 1 months game time of "plex" this is not only hillarious, but a blatant attempt to make the price of plex rise even higher and FORCE people into paying thier monthly subscription. My question is this./....... Too many plex on the game CCP? ..... Maybe TOO MUCH ISK - because of bugs being allowed and ignored for far too long (fergel - FW - incursions - WH's) 1st make them moveable - so can be destroyed 2nd Bump the prices up GG CCP you honestly just lost 6 accounts, granted paid with plex but still, this poor marketing combined with terrible customer support and even worse expansions is just NOT ACCEPTABLE anymore. Spend less time sending stupid models up in the air tied to balloons, less time developing other FAIL games and focus on your core product. Maybe then and only then eve wont use the excuse "its a neiche" and actualy be a successful MMO. \/
What i find funny is this has been in place for over 2 months now and your only now complaining about it... So it obviously never really affected you in the first place. Besides who actually buys plex from CCP anyways when there are much cheaper options.
Making plex destructible and being able to move them was a great thing to add! |

Bodrul
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
21
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:44:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:Why would anyone buy PLEX with -ú when you can buy them for dollars at shatteredcrystal and similar US sites? It's a lot cheaper.
exactly, only fools would use CCPs system buy plex or game time in the UK when its cheaper just to just paypal and use shatterdcrystal
Gaming Reviews http://www.gamingrev.com |

Kisumii
Bio-Tech Research Luna Sanguinem
79
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Posted - 2012.07.17 11:51:00 -
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9.99 is not expensive on any level.
Sky Costs me over -ú35 a month and I play eve ALOT more than I watch tv. |

Bodrul
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
21
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:05:00 -
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Kisumii wrote:9.99 is not expensive on any level.
Sky Costs me over -ú35 a month and I play eve ALOT more than I watch tv.
Internet, you only get couple new shows on sky ;) also why wait 6-12 months for it to air in the UK lol Gaming Reviews http://www.gamingrev.com |

Elijah Craig
Trask Industries Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:06:00 -
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1 plex does not = 1 month subscription
Yes, you can cash it in for one month's subscription if you want... but you can also sell it on the market for ISK too. It's probably also cheaper to buy a GTC and break it into 2 plexes and then sell them if you want to maximise your return.
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Intrepid Crossing
134
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:07:00 -
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Marley Olacar wrote:If this is the case, and CCP failed to inform people with recurring subscriptions, i do believe a court case may be in order  Just checked the pricing scheme posted above... WHAT TEH **** IS CCP SMOKING?!?!?!?! SERIOUSLY!!!!!! -ú9.99 for 1 month game time........... -ú16.99 for 1 months game time of "plex" this is not only hillarious, but a blatant attempt to make the price of plex rise even higher and FORCE people into paying thier monthly subscription. My question is this./....... Too many plex on the game CCP? ..... Maybe TOO MUCH ISK - because of bugs being allowed and ignored for far too long (fergel - FW - incursions - WH's) 1st make them moveable - so can be destroyed 2nd Bump the prices up GG CCP you honestly just lost 6 accounts, granted paid with plex but still, this poor marketing combined with terrible customer support and even worse expansions is just NOT ACCEPTABLE anymore. Spend less time sending stupid models up in the air tied to balloons, less time developing other FAIL games and focus on your core product. Maybe then and only then eve wont use the excuse "its a neiche" and actualy be a successful MMO. \/
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I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers THORN Alliance
66
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:23:00 -
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Nihassa wrote:Cheers for the link Nirnias, I must have got them mistaken, i had always thought that the cost of a monthly sub, was the same as a plex as they perform the same desired effects more or less.
-Nih
1x uk sub = -ú9.99 1 x GTC in us sites = about -ú22 - -ú24 (this equals 2 plex remember)
so if anything its better now to pay with pounds for my accounts. (When i dont have the iskies)
Why anyone would buy a single plex from ccp at -ú17 is beyond me. "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |

Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
13
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Posted - 2012.07.17 12:30:00 -
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Plex cost more because they're legal gold buying.
You can redeem it and sell it on the market for half a billion ISK, it keeps people from buying gold from shady 3rd party sites and potentially getting scammed out of some RL cash. |

Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
111
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Posted - 2012.07.17 13:02:00 -
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Plex is worth the additional -ú7 a month for the peace of mind knowing that CCP doesn't have your debit card details with a mandate to use it however they see fit. --- ATX: The best of the rest. |
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Verone
Veto Corp
284
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Posted - 2012.07.17 14:47:00 -
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I just got billed today for this account. It was -ú9.99.
No need to panic guys, it's all good.
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |

Mersault
Blue Nine Industries
97
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:24:00 -
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With the price of a pint of Estrella having gone up to -ú4.00 in my local, playing EvE and not going to the pub is certainly a cash saver for me. |

Equus
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:40:00 -
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Zowie Powers wrote:Plex is worth the additional -ú7 a month for the peace of mind knowing that CCP doesn't have your debit card details with a mandate to use it however they see fit.
..... really?
That must be why my Visa was so high last month, CCP went on a shopping spree on me! Damn you CCP! |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
311
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:42:00 -
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WrATH2Zero wrote:Gravitas Moque wrote:Eve is not expensive.
-ú9.99 per month, I play 5 nights per week , usually for a couple of hours per night , so 40 hours per month = 24p per hour
Single trip to cinema with my wife = -ú8.90 just for my ticket. film approx 2.5 hours = -ú3.56 per hour The world doesn't revolve around you though and not everyone plays the game that much. -ú9.99 per mouth is expensive and CCP try to sweeten it with deals. This is the problem with companies now days, deals are the only thing that give the impression that their prices are cheap.
EVE's cost is relative as with everything else.
I can afford to 3 accounts with cash as well as 2 other MMO's that I currently play with cash, but I have alot of disposable income and a good paying job.
Someone else can make 10x as much income as me and think that EVE is overpriced and expensive.
Someone who plays EVE but doesnt have steady income would probably say that EVE is expensive. Someone else who plays EVE and doesnt have steady income would probably say that EVE is cheap.
It's all relative.
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