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waylander Dakeyras
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:04:00 -
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For gods sake CCP stop worrying about new toys and fix the lag - enough already!
I know the new feature teams are nominally separate from the lag fixing team but this is now getting stupid - over 40 minutes to load grid in rf6 tonight :(
Eve is rapidly ceasing to be fun.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:06:00 -
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 Originally by: waylander Dakeyras
For gods sake CCP stop worrying about new toys and fix the lag - enough already!
I know the new feature teams are nominally separate from the lag fixing team but this is now getting stupid - over 40 minutes to load grid in rf6 tonight :(
Eve is rapidly ceasing to be fun.
Maybe from 23rd of June it is fixed.
Apply | Sigs
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Bootius McGee
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: waylander Dakeyras
,,,,,,,this is now getting stupid ..........
Ain't 'gettin', mate.
Done GOT.
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waylander Dakeyras
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: waylander Dakeyras on 16/06/2010 21:14:10
Originally by: Bootius McGee
Ain't 'gettin', mate.
Done GOT.
Very true. Totally fed up with the useless lagging pos game that eveonline has become. Come the end of my subscription period going to review whether I bother renewing or not - instead of improvements all we're seeing is more and more problems.
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unite01
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:24:00 -
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can i have my toon back please ? its being eaten by the lag monster
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waylander Dakeyras
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:27:00 -
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No you can't. The lag monster is used to feed the hamsters and so the lag monster must be well fed on a daily basis.
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Falkus Windowmaker
Minmatar
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:30:00 -
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well if this update to their hardware doesn't address the fleet warfare lag issue (I just want to load grid and be able to fight!) then am done with this game because I cannot play the 1 portion of this game which I consider to be fun (everything else in this game is effing tedious and mind numbingly boring) and engaging.
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Merc101
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:38:00 -
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Yea, the whole of Scalding Pass has almost ceased to function. It took me 30minutes just to load the station.
This stuff was supposed to be fixed patches ago but it seems it's only getting worse. Even SISI is screwed up and they promised to fix that today but it's still screwed.
Today is just not a good day to play eve.
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Terrax Norik
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:40:00 -
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+1 for a complaints forum with a rage-quit sub-forum.
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Camios
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:41:00 -
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I will never stop saying that without a change in the sov mechanics we will never stop having 500+ people in a single system and thus lag.
If only CCP would implement a game mechanic that encourages fleet splitting over a number solar systems at the same time we will have a more strategical and lag free gameplay.
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Miniemoo
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Posted - 2010.06.16 21:45:00 -
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absolutely Nuts.
Start fighting, overview set to Anti- lag lol
about 30 sec lag occurred then
 Headshot
still taking me ages to log back into a low congested area.
come on CCP get them extra Cables in the right holes
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Thoraxe Rig
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.16 23:37:00 -
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We get it already, there's lag.
The first <insert number of threads about lag since the screw up> threads haven't done anything about it, what makes you think the next <insert number of threads about lag since the screw up> will?
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2010.06.17 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Falkus Windowmaker
well if this update to their hardware doesn't address the fleet warfare lag issue ...
It won't. While a server cluster upgrade is long overdue, it has all the signs of being a shotgun approach to the problem of lag. Since lag went from acceptable to horrible on the same hardware when Dominion went live, it's pretty clear that the problem is in the software.
There, I just saved you a week of waiting. |
Sky Orcagna
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Posted - 2010.06.17 03:56:00 -
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Snarky replies aside, it should be obvious to even the willfully ignorant that the OP is correct. It's high time that CCP either do something concrete to restore the lag to pre-Dominion levels -- which is an entirely reasonable request -- or admit that lag is a problem that is simply beyond their ability to meaningfully address with today's technology. If it is the latter, and I really hope that isn't the case, then the issues is going to require some very hard design decisions on the part of EVE Online's senior designers. Either way, the status quo is simply not acceptable and it's not whining for the EVE player base to make this clear to the devs.
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THERisingPHOENIX
Caldari
TWiZTED CHAOZ
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Posted - 2010.06.17 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: THERisingPHOENIX on 17/06/2010 11:57:43
Wait till next week and see if the upgrade does anything
Would another game company do better at reducing lag?
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Ocih
Amarr
The Program
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:08:00 -
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This hardware thing might work out. Bottlenecking can be solved with some simple things and while its on a larger scale the principles are the same. I can add Ram and my machine works like a top where it worked like **** before.
The Dominion patch did do something to EvE. It reminds me of when I tried to put XP on a machine made to run 98SE. Maybe a simple analogy but the principles are the same. |
Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:09:00 -
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posting in lag thread #52078202098725400789
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Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:10:00 -
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I heard there's some lag.
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THERisingPHOENIX
Caldari
TWiZTED CHAOZ
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:11:00 -
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Dam too many lag threads. Keep to one thread. Geez
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Camios Trader
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:14:00 -
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The fact that 0.0 fights are laggy actually are the reason why I don't enjoy alliance warfare anymore, and i'm out of conquerable space.
A gameplay fix is due!
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Ocih
Amarr
The Program
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank
posting in lag thread #52078202098725400789
Waaah
Originally by: Cyzlaki
I heard there's some lag.
Waaah
Originally by: THERisingPHOENIX
Dam too many lag threads. Keep to one thread. Geez
Waaah
Its a forum. Too many threads? What are you keeping track for? |
Diaxess
Curses Mom
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Falkus Windowmaker
Well if this update to their hardware doesn't address the fleet warfare lag issue
(I just want to load grid and be able to fight!)
then am done with this game. I cannot play the 1 portion of this game which I consider to be fun and engaging. Everything else in this game is effing tedious and mind numbingly boring.
First - I helped you with your post. Periods are your friend.
Second - Can I have your stuff?
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Gladys Pank
posting in lag thread #52078202098725400789
Waaah
Its a forum. Too many threads? What are you keeping track for?
Waaah
I don't like you crapping up this forum with duplicate whines.
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Ocih
Amarr
The Program
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank
Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Gladys Pank
posting in lag thread #52078202098725400789
Waaah
Its a forum. Too many threads? What are you keeping track for?
Waaah
I don't like you crapping up this forum with duplicate whines.
So. |
Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Gladys Pank
Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Gladys Pank
posting in lag thread #52078202098725400789
Waaah
Its a forum. Too many threads? What are you keeping track for?
Waaah
I don't like you crapping up this forum with duplicate whines.
So.
So STFU noob.
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Ocih
Amarr
The Program
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank
So STFU noob.
Make me. |
Indigosia
Caldari
Ninja Traders
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:49:00 -
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ccp, more toys please, let the 0.0 nubcakes do what they want, they know they will lagg out when they drop that amount of ships on the field. crying about lagg afterwards is just stupid.
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Ocih
Amarr
The Program
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Indigosia
ccp, more toys please, let the 0.0 nubcakes do what they want, they know they will lagg out when they drop that amount of ships on the field. crying about lagg afterwards is just stupid.
In the past 2 months we have seen cases where the grids are black screening with 50 people in a battle.
What is 'too much'? |
Indigosia
Caldari
Ninja Traders
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Indigosia
ccp, more toys please, let the 0.0 nubcakes do what they want, they know they will lagg out when they drop that amount of ships on the field. crying about lagg afterwards is just stupid.
In the past 2 months we have seen cases where the grids are black screening with 50 people in a battle.
What is 'too much'?
when it starts lagging, you got too much.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.06.17 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Gladys Pank
So STFU noob.
Make me.
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Done.
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Bad Princess
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.17 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank
Originally by: Ocih
Originally by: Gladys Pank
So STFU noob.
Make me.
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Done.
Hmmm.
All that seems to have accomplished is to hide his posts from you.
Hardly 'shutting him up'.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.06.17 13:14:00 -
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I cant hear him, good enough.
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Ocih
Amarr
The Program
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.06.17 13:15:00 -
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One of the things I have found in EvE and on its forums is, if everyone likes you? You are doing it wrong. |
Comstr
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.06.17 13:58:00 -
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The lag as so bad in Immensea I'm actually posting this from NEXT WEEK because I've been stuck traffic controlled since 2 days ago.
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Sully Tude
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Posted - 2010.06.17 14:33:00 -
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So you have 500 people on grid all doing stuff. That's 500 incoming connections to the server. The server must then process how each of those 500 people affect each other. 500^2 is 250,000 complex processes involving velocity, position, targetting, drones, damage, weapons, explosions, etc. etc. What the hell do you expect is going to happen? If you don't like lag, don't go to the ridiculous blob-fests that your Alliance-head overlords "require" you to attend. Simply spread yourselves out amoungst 20 different systems and fight in small groups.
And for the love of god stop with the "I demand CCP fixes lagggg." CCP doesn't give a rat's behind about 0.0 players. Something like 90% of subscriptions come from empire players, and you never see any lag in empire (Jita not included). When you all stop trying to feed your egos by blowing up every noob that sets foot in "your space," and actually get people to leave empire for 0.0 to join and help you, then you can whine about lag.
Until then, STFU.
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waylander Dakeyras
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Posted - 2010.06.17 15:36:00 -
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So brief translation of Sully's post:-
Play the game the way I do or STFU.
So much for a sandbox. The complaints would be ALOT less if it wasn't for the issue that it used, pre-domination and post whatever the patch was, possible to have massive fleet fights with 1k in local - last nights problem was only with 600 - 700 in local. As most of those ended up in the same boat, based on our voice comms only around 50% loaded grid so only 300 - 350 actually taking part :-(
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Primaxin
Gallente
THORN Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.17 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sully Tude
So you have 500 people on grid all doing stuff. That's 500 incoming connections to the server. The server must then process how each of those 500 people affect each other. 500^2 is 250,000 complex processes involving velocity, position, targetting, drones, damage, weapons, explosions, etc. etc. What the hell do you expect is going to happen? If you don't like lag, don't go to the ridiculous blob-fests that your Alliance-head overlords "require" you to attend. Simply spread yourselves out amoungst 20 different systems and fight in small groups.
And for the love of god stop with the "I demand CCP fixes lagggg." CCP doesn't give a rat's behind about 0.0 players. Something like 90% of subscriptions come from empire players, and you never see any lag in empire (Jita not included). When you all stop trying to feed your egos by blowing up every noob that sets foot in "your space," and actually get people to leave empire for 0.0 to join and help you, then you can whine about lag.
Until then, STFU.
You're mixing up different issues. We can discuss whether a NBSI policy is a good thing but it's a seperate question. The way CCP has set up sov mechanics, you are forced to have large fleets. Try attacking a POS or IHub or station with 25 ships. If you don't get blown up, it will take you days to reduce the target to reinforced. If large fleets are required to attack, then large fleets will also be needed to defend.
It makes no sense for CCP to force certain game mechanics on the players when the game cannot handle these mechanics. That's the situation right now. Everything in your post is irrelevant to this, the key issue.
If CCP doesn't care about 0.0 players (a ridiculous assertion), then why have the Dominion patch which was devoted almost completely to that group of players?
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Bewegung
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Posted - 2010.06.17 16:22:00 -
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Yeah, I had some of my first experience in 0.0 PVP yesterday.
It resulted in me taking a gate, and then not loading grid for 30 minutes. Getting told to log off, as that worked for some people, and then not being able to log on for 4 hours - missing the entire fight.
But, at least I can interact with planets.
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