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Gheeeed	Posted - 2010.06.17 14:16:00 - [1] Hi. How powerful are tech 3 ships? Are they equivilent to a tech 1 battlecruiser? A HAC? If they're equivilent to a HAC, is there a good reason to invest in tech3 skills instead of just getting a HAC?
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2010.06.17 14:28:00 - [2] better than a HAC, better than a CS too usually, better at BS at some things esp with fancy mods. total bullet magnets in pvp unless theres a few of you and some logistics. some specific roles, like unprobale gang links setups, are unbeatable by any other ship in game. EFT hor for many hours before actually spending any money, and dont try to 'out do' recons, they are alot tougher but generally dont have better EW bonuses.
Valend	Posted - 2010.06.17 14:57:00 - [3] I don't see why a T2 cruiser would outperform a T3 cruiser, except maybe at niche roles (Cerb's long range) and cost effectiveness in PVP (much harder on the wallet to lose a T3 ship). It's an entire tech level above a HAC for good reason. Comparing T3 to battlecruiser, since I got my Tengu, I haven't even looked at my Drake. Tengu is much faster and the rate of fire improvement is just ridiculous. I use the Tengu over battleships in a handful of L4s, but it also has a whole host of other applications you can configure it for.
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2010.06.17 15:38:00 - [4] Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 17/06/2010 15:38:52 Originally by: Valend I use the Tengu over battleships in a handful of L4s, but it also has a whole host of other applications you can configure it for. I find I frequently swap subsytems: * Standard DPS fit * Un-probe-able covert combat fit * Covert travel fit * Exploration fit I've had another hull built for me so I don't have to find a station so often (we live in w-space). I'll likely get my alts into a Tengu as well. The Tengu was really worth the training time that I had been avoiding for so long.
Valend	Posted - 2010.06.17 17:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Tau Cabalander I've had another hull built for me so I don't have to find a station so often (we live in w-space). I'll likely get my alts into a Tengu as well. One of my alts can fly a Tengu, but unfortunately only has gunnery skills. The difference between theoretical DPS (I haven't actually tried a Tengu gunboat yet) is pretty big. Especially with the siege warfare link I was planning on using. Otherwise, I'd fit a second one right up and go blaze through some wormholes.
DarkXale	Posted - 2010.06.17 20:41:00 - [6] Edited by: DarkXale on 17/06/2010 20:41:44 Before starting to deal with fittings; a T3 cruiser will basically be about as agile and hard-to-hit as a regular cruiser - but have the EHP roughly of a Battlecruiser (a lot more against the specialized damage types). Damage output will generally not change much, though T3s can overload much longer than other ships. The subsystems basically determine which areas your ship will generally outperform HACs and Battlecruisers - with the exception of damage which will often be about the same. The subsystems tend to also allow somewhat imitating the other types of cruisers, though these are rarely utilized. It also occasionally permits other more unusual roles, most notably the immunity to warp bubbles, probing bonus, and covert cloak which can make for an good - though (very) expensive, scout.
Errtan	Posted - 2010.06.18 21:31:00 - [7] I use a legion for soloing C3 wormholes which I definitely couldnt do with the HAC's and BC's available to me (Amarr, some Gallente). The big thing with T3's is the amazing tank they can field for the size of the ship while still doing pretty good DPS. It's been a huge upgrade getting into the C3 and having the fancy mods and decent skills to use it. For sure worth it to train for them.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.06.18 22:32:00 - [8] As opposed to what the guy a few posts above me said, I've found that the DPS you can get out of them is a lot more than a HAC, at least for a Tengu. Just a normal HAM fit Tengu with Rages can easily reach 700 DPS, though I think this is more the exception than the rule. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
andeira	Posted - 2010.06.18 22:49:00 - [9] Edited by: andeira on 18/06/2010 22:50:33 A tengu with faction/deadspace fit can do about 700 DPS at 100 km range it will in addition go 660 m/s and got an 1100 DPS capstable omnitank while having a sig radius of 206 m so a tengu can outperform any cruiser or BC if going for an expensive fit and that is without using any implants at all I'd say that is comming close to a decent lvl 4 missioning BS and this is the fit if intrested [Tengu, missioning] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Capacitor Flux Coil II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
superteds	Posted - 2010.06.18 22:58:00 - [10] Originally by: andeira Edited by: andeira on 18/06/2010 22:50:33 A tengu with faction/deadspace fit can do about 700 DPS at 100 km range it will in addition go 660 m/s and got an 1100 DPS capstable omnitank while having a sig radius of 206 m so a tengu can outperform any cruiser or BC if going for an expensive fit and that is without using any implants at all I'd say that is comming close to a decent lvl 4 missioning BS and this is the fit if intrested [Tengu, missioning] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Capacitor Flux Coil II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer ^ proof that a healthy wallet =/= a well fitted ship
Deva Blackfire Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.06.18 23:07:00 - [11] Originally by: superteds Originally by: andeira Edited by: andeira on 18/06/2010 22:50:33 A tengu with faction/deadspace fit can do about 700 DPS at 100 km range it will in addition go 660 m/s and got an 1100 DPS capstable omnitank while having a sig radius of 206 m so a tengu can outperform any cruiser or BC if going for an expensive fit and that is without using any implants at all I'd say that is comming close to a decent lvl 4 missioning BS and this is the fit if intrested [Tengu, missioning] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Capacitor Flux Coil II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer ^ proof that a healthy wallet =/= a well fitted ship Dare to put some explanation? Or just throwing words on the wind?
andeira	Posted - 2010.06.18 23:31:00 - [12] Edited by: andeira on 18/06/2010 23:32:09 Originally by: superteds Originally by: andeira Edited by: andeira on 18/06/2010 22:50:33 A tengu with faction/deadspace fit can do about 700 DPS at 100 km range it will in addition go 660 m/s and got an 1100 DPS capstable omnitank while having a sig radius of 206 m so a tengu can outperform any cruiser or BC if going for an expensive fit and that is without using any implants at all I'd say that is comming close to a decent lvl 4 missioning BS and this is the fit if intrested [Tengu, missioning] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Capacitor Flux Coil II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer ^ proof that a healthy wallet =/= a well fitted ship lol show me a better fit then. anything that comes close to this is the HAM setup and I don't like it cause of to much running around and yes I use this ingame in 0.0 even I got DPS figure wrong tough should be 670 still had one implant sellected
superteds	Posted - 2010.06.19 00:05:00 - [13] Originally by: andeira Edited by: andeira on 18/06/2010 23:32:09 Originally by: superteds Originally by: andeira Edited by: andeira on 18/06/2010 22:50:33 A tengu with faction/deadspace fit can do about 700 DPS at 100 km range it will in addition go 660 m/s and got an 1100 DPS capstable omnitank while having a sig radius of 206 m so a tengu can outperform any cruiser or BC if going for an expensive fit and that is without using any implants at all I'd say that is comming close to a decent lvl 4 missioning BS and this is the fit if intrested [Tengu, missioning] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Capacitor Flux Coil II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer ^ proof that a healthy wallet =/= a well fitted ship lol show me a better fit then. anything that comes close to this is the HAM setup and I don't like it cause of to much running around and yes I use this ingame in 0.0 even I got DPS figure wrong tough should be 670 still had one implant sellected It's overtanked to hell for no real reason is my problem with it. Not even high end plex fits need that much isk in the tank. You also don't need to be capstable... so ditch the CFC and get another BCU in the lowslot. ditch the boost amp, get a decent TP and downgrade the rigs to T1. if you want to be capstable look at a gist booster - you will STILL have enough tank to happily run anything. Throw in some cheap 3% wires and voila, pretty much the same ship minus gank-magnet isk spending on your ship.
andeira	Posted - 2010.06.19 00:12:00 - [14] yes could swap some mods but ever tried tanking 10/10 solo? anyway this thread is about the power of t3 ships and not about how to fit a tengu that fit jsut demonstrates how powerfull a t3 can be
superteds	Posted - 2010.06.19 00:15:00 - [15] Originally by: andeira yes could swap some mods but ever tried tanking 10/10 solo? anyway this thread is about the power of t3 ships and not about how to fit a tengu that fit jsut demonstrates how powerfull a t3 can be no, because the moneys in the 6/10s and 8/10s atm. being able to say you've ran the maze solo is great and all, but for the effort involved it's truely not worth it. OT; T3s 'power' isn't so much in their tank and spank, it's that they can be reconfigured to do pretty much anything the contemporary T2 line offers, albeit in some cases not as well. Certain ships shine in particular roles (tengu=plexing, proteus=WH ganking for example) but their diversity is what makes them good. You run into a 8man gang of T3s, who do you primary?
andeira	Posted - 2010.06.19 00:20:00 - [16] Edited by: andeira on 19/06/2010 00:22:14 ahhh well it's my isk I do what I want with it ^^ but yes back OT as he said the real power of t3's is the many way's in wich it can be fitted some fits are common others are less common and when seeing a t3 gang the combination of proteus disrupt/scram bonus the loki's web range bonus and then some t3's used as logistics can **** up anyone's day very fast. Because you can not determine how they are fitted it is hard to adjust your strategy to it (ok with some training you can identify subsystems by just looking at the ship). and they can also fit HUGE buffer tanks a 300 k effective hitpoint proteus is a horror to run into especially if he warp scrams you at like 25 km away and his loki buddy webs you from 30 and he will then munch trough your tank with his blasters
kyrieee Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.	Posted - 2010.06.19 14:44:00 - [17] Originally by: andeira Edited by: andeira on 18/06/2010 23:32:09 Originally by: superteds ^ proof that a healthy wallet =/= a well fitted ship lol show me a better fit then. anything that comes close to this is the HAM setup and I don't like it cause of to much running around and yes I use this ingame in 0.0 even I got DPS figure wrong tough should be 670 still had one implant sellected What he said was that you spent way too much ISK getting way too much tank (1100 DPS omnitank on a speedtanked ship lol?) while somewhat gimping your DPS. You're going to do fine with it but no it's not well fitted because you can get a better ship for much less ISK. You shouldn't even need CCCs on a Tengu

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